Introduction – Sept 16, 2022
If this deal goes ahead it will be a sure-fire recipe for escalating the conflict in Ukraine. Not only that, but if the weapons deal is finalised then the conflict with Russia will almost certainly spread beyond Ukraine’s borders.
Only a few days ago Russia warned that supplying longer-range missiles to Kiev would be a red line for Moscow. So if the West does supply longer-range weapons there will be no turning back.
The crucial weapon here is the ATACMS, which can be fired from a HIMARS rocket launcher. Ukraine already has the HIMARS system courtesy the U.S. but it doesn’t have rockets with sufficient range to reach Russia.
However, with a range of nearly 300kms the latest ATACMS would be able to reach Russia.
In Moscow’s eyes supplying the latest ATACMS rockets to Ukraine would amount to a declaration of war.
So if this deal goes ahead then the war will undoubtedly escalate and spread beyond Ukraine.
Are the warmongers in Washington and London insane enough to allow this to happen?
Unfortunately, we think they are. The elite are seriously concerned about there being too many “useless eaters”. The plandemic and associated “vaccines” were supposed to tackle that but they aren’t working as well as expected. So late last year, Plan B was approved.
This is a last resort and will entail war with Russia, and probably China and Iran too. If this weapons deal goes ahead, and we think it will, then the world will be on the road to WWIII. Ed.
US, Ukraine Are In Talks To Transfer Fighter Jets & Longer-Range Missiles
Tyler Durden – Zero Hedge Sept 15, 2022
The US and its allies are in talks over whether to send Ukraine more advanced weapons in the future, including fighter jets, US defense sources have said, according to the Financial Times. The Kharkiv counteroffensive has apparently emboldened Ukrainian officials to press Washington harder for more advanced and longer-range weapons, now that some degree of success in rolling back Russian forces can be demonstrated.
The idea is that if Ukraine’s forces can prove they’ve taken back significant territory with what defense systems the US has provided so far, they can ultimately make the case that the whole of the east and south is within their reach – and even the potential to liberate Crimea while they’re at it – if longer range and more advanced arms are made available.
The Financial Times reports this week that active discussions between the US and Ukraine are underway concerning Kiev’s weapons wish list:
A senior US defense official said Washington and its allies were discussing Ukraine’s longer term needs, such as air defenses, and whether it might be appropriate to give Kyiv fighter aircraft in the “medium to longer term”. To date, the US and its allies have declined to do so.
But interestingly and quite tellingly, the report immediately follows with the acknowledgement that Ukrainian leaders are perhaps naturally incentivize to exaggerate battlefield gains at this moment. Here’s more from the FT as the Pentagon offers a “cautiously optimistic” assessment of Ukraine’s ongoing counteroffensives in the east and south:
Ukrainian military officials have said in recent days they have taken more than 3,000 sq km of terrain in what has become Moscow’s biggest military setback since it was forced to scrap plans to conquer Kyiv. But late on Monday night President Volodymyr Zelenskyy practically doubled those claims as Ukraine’s forces continued to advance.
Something Ukraine has additionally long been asking for is longer-range missile systems. A Monday Wall Street Journal report detailed that Kiev is now requesting from the Pentagon the Army’s Tactical Missile System, or ATACMS, a surface-to-surface missile system with the capability of reaching about 190 miles. This would be far and beyond the range of missiles transferred to Ukraine thus far in the conflict.
The Biden administration in the early months resisted sending longer range missiles, admitting its fears that doing so could draw the US and Russia into direct conflict – given longer range munitions means Ukrainian forces would have the capability of hitting inside Russian territory. This has already happened with Crimea, and even recently with bases inside Russia proper near the border.
But now US defense officials are looking over a new strategy proposal and weapons request submitted by Valeriy Zaluzhny, the commander in chief of Ukraine’s force. WSJ details of the document:
They argued that Russia has long-range cruise missiles that greatly outdistance the systems in the Ukrainian inventory. A turning point could come if the Ukrainians also had longer-range systems, they argued, specifically mentioning the ATACMS.
“The only way to radically change the strategic situation is, without a doubt, for the Armed Forces of Ukraine to launch several consecutive, and ideally, simultaneous counterattacks during the 2023 campaign,” they wrote.
Currently, the HIMARS systems which are already being provided have a reported max range of 50 miles, and the US administration previously asserted Ukraine had given “guarantees” they wouldn’t be used to target Russian territory.
🎥🇺🇦 HIMARS#Russia #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/IDlIkpuCbB
— BlueSauron👁️ (@Blue_Sauron) September 13, 2022
Meanwhile, on Tuesday the White House previewed that yet another fresh arms package for Ukraine is likely to be announced in the coming days. This as Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin has pledged that NATO allies are ready to support the war against Russia for the “long haul”.
why did the queen the most traveled monarch in the world always refuse to visit isrel ?
the hub of world terrorism
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/09/16/689313/Why-Queen-Elizabeth-Never-Visit-Israel-Viewpoint-Hafsa-Kara-Mustapha
USA NEWS
You would not believe the whirlwind that DeSantis has created by shipping the 50 “undocumented” illegal aliens shipped to his area, on to Martha’s Vineyard.
the very folk who imported them
They lasted less than 24 hours on the island, and were shipped out to some military base because the White Lib/Tards could not deal with the stupidity of their constantly propagandized “philosophy.” They want them in just not in theor neighbourhood
Hysterically funny — great mixture of irony and unintentional humour!
Just love it!
https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-ron-desantis-flies-planes-full-of-illegal-immigrants-to-marthas-vineyard-report-says
The West is run by crazies, so anything is possible. Eventually they will get so desperate that they will slip (probably via the British – the usual puppets), a small nuke. That will be used either asa false flag to frame the Russians, or to attack Russian territory directly, thus inviting a response. If the latter, it will probably be a dirty bomb, so it appears as if it was locally produced.
The people behind this situation are either wicked or stupid – no one is that stupid.
when Scotland wanted to break free of rule by london, English people said the same thing, that they also wanted to be free of London Jewish rule.
London has given Huge sums to wales to resuscitate the defunct welsh language, pay for all new road signs, school books all printed matter etc now in Welsh,
the same with Scotland all things scottish like Welsh is good and encourages patriotism, but England ? oh no thats racist.
This double standards is sickening, the old joke that
“no matter who you vote for, the government always gets in ”
is correct inasmuch as the 3 main parties are all ruled by the same little bunch of hook nosed bankers, “voting changes nothing, it just encourages them” Famous Quote.
The army of homeless people on our streets are all our people, soup run volunteers say they see hundreds of homeless and with not one foreigner, as they get special benefits denied to our people.
Its horrific racism like this with rules given to us by Brussels, that confirm our belief in Brexit.
We must control;-
Our own borders
Immigration
Fishing grounds
Defence capabilities
NHS
Policing
Transport/rail roads etc
Industry.
Any politician who would give away these powers to foreign control is guilty of treason.
Our enemy is not raghead peasant farmers in Iraq, Libya or Syria, or even Iran,
it is the traitors in our own government, who are daily committing hate crimes on their own electorate.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/444375-uk-un-extreme-poverty/
Feel quite relaxed about this.
A Third World War would be a good clearing out, and Russia, which crosses eleven time zones, will survive and later thrive.
The West deserves to be obliterated anyway.
Dr. Vernon Coleman wrote ‘It is hardly surprising that the sensitive, the thoughtful, the imaginative and the caring find twenty first century life almost too painful to bear.’
Quite.
I personally welcome the prospect of death, without courting it (too) much *exercise like a fiend, drink lots of coffee – might drop dead of health and caffeine stimulants*
Most Westerners are dead anyway – living in a Lie and not seeing it is Death-in-life.
The fact that I am sharing the same Time and approximate geographical location as publically funded liars who write like hormonal teenage girls going through a particurly difficult phase, and garner Media Awards for doing so as well as being watched by millions, justifies the yen for mortality alone.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62931224
Par-tic-U-larly
‘Anyone happy in this age and place
Is daft or corrupt. Better to abdicate
From a material and spiritual terrain
Fit only for barbarians.’
Roy Fuller, 1912-1991.
**
Jew America gets on well with Jewkraine. Stalin stole Ukraine off humans by killing them but the Jews are parasites, not farmers, and the country now is just a base for Jew America to attack Russia because it is a White country, and to funnel a lot of money into their pockets. I side with Russia, of course, but they are being slow, as Carl Jones says
Would that be those American fighter jets that are prone to falling off American aircraft carriers into seas that are five miles deep? So for each plane you need an aircraft carrier, two submarines, and several support vessels plus the required personnel tp operate them? Would that be the ones?
Just 8, I bet they are remote operable, as in, US pilots flying them from the US, or Ramstein (spelling?).
ellis c taylor: because such a trip would be mutually damaging to both parties. Only fools bonk in public.
Non-metaphorical “insanity” would apply to whatever extent that the West is currently acting on what may be an orchestrated/choreographed reality-rendition of the Cold War as though it were an incontestable reality.
This “squishy” non-sequitur would definitely become a self-fulfilling prophecy of a real World War based on the tenuous substrate of a false World War previously which spawned the bogus Cold War.
If Russia persists in reality in a way that outstrips the West’s participation in reality, it is a foregone conclusion that the West is on a path to insane self-destruction…
The propaganda (lies) of “talks” seems like acclimating the herd for further insanity. A kid in a candy store would be more responsible!
There are waaay too many crazy assholes in DC! Send THEM, and this crap will be over TOMORROW!
They are waiting until after the Queens funeral and then it will all kick off. So obviously planned and choreographed and so obvious they are all on the same side and following orders, including Putin.
Subheading states that the ‘war could spread beyond Ukraine’s borders’…
Of course, since they’re all in on it together, any contrived excuse will be utilized to potentially expand the war. Why? Antifa Russia held an ‘International Anti-Fascist Conference’ last month. Russia’s ‘Minister of Defense’ Sergei Shoigu (Jew) made a speech at this conference. In the speech he remarked that “SS Legionnaire marches are becoming a tradition in Estonia & Latvia.” Oh no, the Jews & Antifa Russia don’t like any manifestation of pro-white culture–i.e., where white fascists honor their soldiers in the SS who fought against the Commie scum in WWII. Same situation in Ukraine. Prior to the war Ukrainians held parades for their SS unit & Azov organized white nationalist cultural events…This is the main ulterior reason behind the invasion & its possible they’re planning eventually to assail the Baltic States too, to eradicate the ‘white fascists’..Remember, Antifa Russia doesn’t have a govt. agency titled ‘World Without Nazism’ for nothing…lol
Robert: Biden and Truss, and Boris, and Zelensky wife, & maybe dick player, will be in Westminster Abbey… What an easy target.
Mind you, I doubt the real Biden will travel.
@NICO X
even that i dont take part in your
extrem rascism (i found more friends
under coloured than under my countrymen)
i suport your opinions against your
antagonists . your opinion is necessary
for new commentators .
One of the many lies we’ve been acquiesced to accept is that when a major war gets “out of hand”, the last thing combatants would choose is to attack the other nations leadership. Someone has to be there to stop the insanity, so “you do not cut off the head of the snake.”
This is 180° from the truth.
If the West continues their insane escalation in the Ukraine and things finally do get “out of hand”, I would hope Russia cuts that snake head off first thing. Most of us know who the real snakes are, and where they hang out.
I have 3 cities in mind.
@ ImWolf “I have 3 cities in mind.”
#1 City of London
#2 Joo York/Wall St.
#3 Frankfurt ..
Am I correct ??
@antivax…Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
Nico X does not give proof that the Jewish voices on Russia are dominant like they are in our countries. Their sort of work gets shut down in Russia
Meant to put “voices in Russia”
Who cares what NATO does certainly not Russia. The West is collapsing, on Keith Wood’s Telegram page he quotes if the richest 3% of USA and UK are taken out of the equation then those countries become 2nd tier. We don’t need experts to tell us this go to any city in Britain and see for your self. Russia destroying the West? Have a word with your selves since 1945 we’ve been on a downward trajectory now we’re in helter skelter mode. This lizard who the sheeple are queuing hours to pay respects to has presided over the complete destruction of a green and pleasant land. There maybe a few small pockets of survivors when the collapse comes just like the end of Rome but the end is coming. I remember the nationalist Jonathan Bowden giving a talk and saying we were in this unique time like the Romans 1500 years ago. How prophetic those words were.
@ MR REYNARD
you forgot Cheyenne Mountain +
Berlin (it will be a israeli false flag)
Phil Thibeggar
“When Scotland wanted to break free of rule by london, English people said the same thing, that they also wanted to be free of London Jewish rule.
London has given Huge sums to wales to resuscitate the defunct welsh language, pay for all new road signs, school books all printed matter etc now in Welsh,
the same with Scotland all things scottish like Welsh is good and encourages patriotism, but England ? oh no thats racist.”
City Hall is the seat of government for London, whereas the Palace of Westminster is the seat of Government for the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland. So London is giving nothing you dullard.
English people as a rule are not aware that they are ruled by Jews and their proxies. The same with nominal independence for Wales and Scotland does not free them of Jewish rule as they are generally unaware of this.
The language policies of Wales and Scotland are issues pertaining to Wales and Scotland who also pay taxes to the treasury by the way; and are nothing to do with myopic ill informed interlopers like yourself.
Top 10 unexpected facts about the Welsh language that may surprise you
https://nation.cymru/culture/top-10-unexpected-facts-about-the-welsh-language-that-may-surprise-you/
Welsh language: A national treasure
https://civilservice.blog.gov.uk/2022/07/19/welsh-language-a-national-treasure/
Paxman getting owned by Plaid Cymru economic spokesman Eurfyl ap Gwilym
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gy7f8vP2QY
You do not even understand basic fundamentals but post on here exhibiting your divisive simplistic grasp of things for every passer by to see.
I have destroyed your nonsense twice before under different monikers , but you are so lacking in intelligence that it does not register.
@Mr Reynard
London, Tel Aviv, and District of Criminals.
Shahed-136 what else there is to say!?
my two rials
@ImWolf…. Hit them, where the Shekels are & the Shekels hoarder reside ….
& it will be over quickly …