Tyler Durden – Zero Hedge Oct 23, 2024
In a huge and surprise development, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has specified and verbalized what could be a first concrete step toward ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine.
He told journalists in Kiev this week that both sides should mutually agree on halting all aerial attacks on energy targets and cargo ships, and that this could pave the way for negotiations to end the war.
The comments were first reported by Financial Times on Tuesday, which quoted the Monday remarks as follows: “when it comes to energy and freedom of navigation, getting a result on these points would be a signal that Russia may be ready to end the war.”
“We saw during the first (peace) summit that there could be a decision on energy security,” he explained to reporters. “In other words—we do not attack their energy infrastructures; they don’t attack ours. Could this lead to the end of the war’s hot phase? I think so.”
This marks a first such known overture of this nature, and comes at a crucial moment that the Ukrainian population is bracing for a harsh winter, given especially the rolling blackouts, frequent emergency power outages, and severely damaged power grid.
The last year of war has seen Russian aerial attacks primarily focus on degrading Ukraine’s power infrastructure, including knocking offline key thermal power plants, which has resulted in some 60% of Ukraine’s power generation being disabled.
This has left the war-ravaged country primarily reliant on nuclear power and imports from European partners.
On the other side of the battle lines, the last several months have seen Russian oil and energy facilities, as well as some military bases and ammo storage depots, get hammered by cross-border drone attacks from Ukraine.
Russia’s defense ministry has been reporting almost nightly drone intercepts over Russian territory. Large fires at oil depots in Russia’s southern oblasts have now become a monthly reality.
It seems Ukraine may have been engaged in such risky escalations of these cross-border strikes precisely to build leverage at a future negotiating table. But it remains that Russia’s vast energy infrastructure has barely been dented, and the situation inside Russia is far from desperate, especially compared to Ukraine’s crisis.
As FT wrote, “If Moscow and Kyiv agreed to end strikes on their respective energy infrastructures, it would be a significant step towards de-escalating the conflict, Zelenskyy said in reference to Ukrainian drone attacks on Russian oil refineries.”
The Economist writes that the U.S. considers Zelensky’s “victory plan” to be a “failure.”
This is due to the fact that it involves an escalation of the conflict. According to the publication, the plan should be interpreted as a way to force Russia into negotiations with Ukraine… pic.twitter.com/uENNdF6nod
— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated) October 23, 2024
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And yet recent escalations appear to have made it less likely that direct negotiations would happen, at least according to public statements from officials on both sides. But on the ground in the east, in the Donbass, Russian forces are clearly on the advance, and Ukraine’s severe manpower problems have become more and more obvious and public.
Zelensky’s potential ‘offer’ of mutually halting aerial attacks on energy sites comes as he’s been promoting his five-point ‘victory plan’ – which so far has received a muted response in Washington and among NATO leaders. The quiet signals from the Western allies appear to be pushing Kiev toward winding down the conflict, at the negotiating table, as opposed to escalation which could lead to direct Russia-NATO fighting.
This is a significant turn, given that up until this week Zelensky had always rejected the very idea of talks with Putin, saying he would not negotiate with Moscow so long as the Russian strongman remains in power. That thinking appears to have changed, likely a reflection of the increasing desperation Ukraine’s armed forces are feeling.
Looks like the jew queer is about to be ditched. Neither huge nor surprising. Inevitable.
More rubbish from the CIA media.
Zelensky’s terms are a joke, and what’s more, he’s not the legal head of state, and Russia has made this abundantly clear. They won’t talk to Zelensky.
If Z leaves and someone takes over, then that’s a different matter, but the truth, any talk of talk can’t happen, because there’s no one in the Nazi West they can trust, not even Trump.
The editor points out that another presstitute is preparing the sheeple for war. I have to say, ‘who gives a crap what the thicko sheeple thinks?’
There are a few in the Pentagon who probably see things as I do, and that there’s no way out of WW3, unless they coup their Nazi regime. There’s already been a partial coup, in the sense that major foreign policy moves have been blocked. I suspect the German and French militaries are thinking along the same lines.
Since Ritter’s time, the diplomats have vanished, and the political classes are clueless. Can you see anyone sitting down with the Russians, who hold all the cards? I can see the military top brass doing deals behind closed doors.
For a cease-fire to be agreed upon a law be created, that Zionists and Jews are not allowed to live in Ukraine and within sixty miles of its borders, and Orthodox Christianity will be taught in schools This will make it clear that a war to create a greater Israel and eliminate Christianity will not be beneficial or tolerated in the future.
Russia will not deal with Zelensky and his government so it will be USA.
Rarotflmfao about time this loser gave up, only cost 1.8 million Jewkrainans. Do I care, na not at all. Hail Russia, Hail Putin, Fuck Jewkraine, Fuck Jewlensky, Fuck Jewrope, Fuck the JewK, Fuck the Jewnited States.
what ‘tyler durden’ (another roman catholic?) doesn’t tell you is that Putin & Zelensky are simply actors/puppets of the same global Jew Commie cabal that rules NATOUkraine/Russia. They’re all in on it. Now you know.
Where have they been attacking energy structures and shipping? How about the huge gas pipeline complex running from Russia through the Ukraine into the EU which never stopped pumping NG all through the war? Is Zelensky the CIA-Zio-Rothschild suck really saying that unless NATO forces come fully into the war, his forces will start attacking Russian energy infrastructure including the pipelines through the Ukraine?
It is getting to the point that that nothing in the media is reliable. Reuters reported last year that the gas flow from Russia to the EU had been reduced by about 30% because of the war and it was not referring to the taking out of Nord Stream 2. The pro-war Western sources say 80,000 Uke troops have been killed in the war, and the antiwar Western sources say that over 600,000 Uke troops have been killed. Everyone appears to have the right to BS.
Our lying governments have the solution which is NOT to stop their chronic lying and to try to restore any trust in the people based on reality. No, they can’t do that or the people would unite against them. They only want blind obedience to their insane policies and to keep us divided in fear and confusion. The top-down establishment solution is to suppress any information and views which do not conform to their fake narratives, calling it “disinformation” and severely punishing anyone who challenges it.
First of all, who cares about Ukraine? Or Israel? I sure as hell don’t. Ukraine has lost, soon the news cycle will omit Ukraine from the headlines, and it will seem like Ukraine “just disappeared” off the MSM radar. When was the last time you heard about Afghanistan? Ukraine will disappear like Afghanistan and no one will care.
Soon, Russia will install their puppet. Gay demon Zelensky will retire to one of his many mansions he bought with USA tax slaves monies. Over a million dead Ukes, over 3 million wounded, have the country left, the economy in ruins. Another Jew scam war wasted the money and lives of the Goyim – while Clowngress gave that little perv liar demon standing ovations.
I just hope Russia catches that little shit demon and puts him in the gulag.
Instead of listening to “come on down, we got some mighty fine used tanks” he coulda had a couple hundred apache heli-choppers, and instead of F16’s, maybe a few (used) A10’s, and Russia woulda been whistling dixie! Energy infrastructures, that’s sensible, but defining cargo ships, do missile cruisers count?
The war was provoked by the US-UK-Zio-Rothschild economic cartel which has been appointing globalist governments virtually everywhere on the planet. There never has been such as contrived war as the one in the Ukraine.
“Ukraine will continue to transit Russian oil to the EU until the end of 2029, helping to fund the Kremlin’s war machine.”
https://ubn.news/ukraine-will-continue-to-transit-russian-oil-to-the-eu-until-the-end-of-2029-helping-to-fund-the-kremlins-war-machine/
So, exactly what kind of a war is this against Russia? Investors know by looking at how Gazprom stocks plummeted from 309 rubles on Feb. 13, 2022, when the war began, to the present level of 134 rubles, that it is mainly the “growth” of the Russian NG exports to the EU which has hurt the stock linked together with the fact of huge amounts of US LNG being dumped into the EU market since the war began. However, the actual production levels of NG from Russia to the EU have not actually decreased by 30% as Rothschild news sources would have us believe.
Russia still supplies roughly the same about of gas per year to the EU as it did before 2022. The only real change is that the US dramatically increased (over three times) its LNG exports to the EU since the war began. Russia with cheaper NG was set to take over more of the EU NG market with more pipelines including Nord Stream 2, However, this war most certainly entailed the following:
February 2024 – “The United States was again the largest supplier of liquefied natural gas (LNG) to Europe (EU-27 and the UK) in 2023, accounting for nearly half of total LNG imports, according to data from CEDIGAZ. Last year marks the third consecutive year in which the United States supplied more LNG to Europe than any other country: 27%, or 2.4 billion cubic feet per day (Bcf/d), of total European LNG imports in 2021; 44% (6.5 Bcf/d) in 2022; and 48% (7.1 Bcf/d) in 2023.”
“Ukraine will continue to transit Russian oil to the EU until the end of 2029, helping to fund the Kremlin’s war machine.”
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=61483
The people in most resource-depleted Western nations (except for Natural Gas from fracking and endless resources for producing bull manure), they customarily turn a blind eye to the wars and evil machinations committed by their globalist (neocon-socialist) governments deceiving them and the rest of the world into their technocratic and totalitarian fixes, which now include fixing most people even reproductively.
We have genocide, ethnic cleansing and massive land clearances going on in the Middle East at the direction of the Chabad-Ashkenazi-Zionist arch crooks, and we see the same hand running the Ukraine, the US, the UK and Russia. The question is whether the war in the Ukraine principally is for an economic interlude to allow the Americans to balance their books with huge LNG sales to the EU and to stimulate their armaments industries, of if the purpose of the war is mainly to allow Chabad-Ashkenazi-Zionists working with the Russians to effect huge land clearances and wealth transfers in the Ukraine, and to effectively carve the place up for their own interests – or both.
Other than such totally evil interests coming from nations and power elites which scoff at any moral limits, the only other rational for such an insane slaughter of the duped Ukrainians and the destruction of their nation, is to serve as a cardinal pretext to serve the globalist agenda for a world government and a global currency by creating the mother of all fears in escalating the conflicts both in the Ukraine and in the ME to a Defcon 1 or 2 level. The neocon-socialist globalist establishment is in control of our nations. It has fueled these wars, and it needs the ultimate pretext the establishment of their globalist controls.
In fact, none of these soiled interests (which help explain things to the remnant decent goyim of the planet) are mutually exclusive to the other. For instance, when we consider the makeup of the WEF. we find it is made up of different “stakeholder” interests in which the various take-over projects serve many distinct interests. It is all very “Amercanish”. Each stakeholder turns a blind eye to the motives of the others, and is content that the methods used to achieve their ends are somehow justified with a generalized platitude of serving ” the common good”, and by dangling various humanitarian-carrots before the hoi polloi. Such was the case for the global warming fraud carried out by the same neocon-socialist globalist network which took over the Ukraine in 2014 and provoked the war in the Donbas.
Also, such was the 9/11 false flag, where on one hand it served as the perfect pretext to roll out the surveillance state. The DHS was already constituted for the occasion and 9/11 served as the pretext for its “necessity” to save us from terrorism, and the US government “needed” a really the strong act of terrorism to justify it. On the other hand, 9/11 also served neocon interests to make war on Afghanistan for natural resources and drugs, and, a few years later to invade Iraq for control of its huge oil and NG reserves.
Just surrender you goof ball. You have lost,and why should you or your handlers be trusted?
Yukon Jack, well written. But Jewlensky won’t retire to one of his pads, he’ll be ripped apart and hung in Maidan Square by his own people and that I can’t wait for.
Russia, with its chinks and muzzies
Nico X: Tyler Durden isn’t a person.
The only wars that are allowed are ones with no logic in the alliances, nothing natural