Dan Sabbagh and Kate Connolly – The Guardian March 4, 2024
British soldiers are “on the ground” in Ukraine helping Kyiv’s forces fire long-range Storm Shadow missiles, according to a leak in Russian media of a top-secret call involving German air force officers.
The Kremlin said the leak demonstrated the direct involvement of the “collective west” in the war in Ukraine – while former British defence ministers expressed frustration with the German military in response to the revelations.
Released on Friday by the editor of the Kremlin-controlled news channel RT, Margarita Simonyan, the audio recording – confirmed as authentic by Germany – captures Luftwaffe officers discussing how Berlin’s Taurus missiles could be used to try to blow up the Kerch Bridge connecting Russia with occupied Crimea.
During the conversation, Lt Gen Ingo Gerhartz, the head of the Luftwaffe, describes how Britain works with Ukraine on deploying Storm Shadow missiles against targets up to 150 miles behind Russian lines.
“When it comes to mission planning,” the German commander says, “I know how the English do it, they do it completely in reachback. They also have a few people on the ground, they do that, the French don’t.”
Reachback is a military term to describe how intelligence, equipment and support from the rear is brought forward to units deployed on the front, but Gerhartz suggests the British approach is deeper, involving support on site.
The Kremlin spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, said the leaked conversations “once again highlight the direct involvement of the collective west in the conflict in Ukraine” – although on Sunday Germany’s defence minister, Boris Pistorius, accused Moscow of waging “an information war” against the west.
Nevertheless, the authenticity of the 38-minute conversation, which took place a fortnight ago on the relatively insecure Webex platform, is not being doubted. It appears to have been hacked and recorded by Russian actors who passed it on to the editor of RT to release on Telegram on Friday.
Tobias Ellwood, a former UK junior defence minister, said the leak was embarrassing to Berlin, although he told the BBC that Russia probably knew about the British presence given the intensity of its espionage activities.
But that should “not prevent some serious conversations taking place in the diplomatic corridors between Germany and Britain and indeed Nato, as well as to why this happened in the first place”, Ellwood added.
Britain confirmed the presence of a “small number of personnel” in Ukraine on Tuesday last week, although it did not say what tasks they were undertaking amid concerns that any potential combat involvement could be considered as escalatory by Moscow.
That followed a surprise statement by the German chancellor, Olaf Scholz, last Monday, who said he would not provide Taurus missiles to Ukraine because it would require the presence of Germans to match the British and French and be engaged in “the way of target control and accompanying target control”.
That, he warned, risked making Berlin a “participant in the war” even if such soldiers were based in Germany. “German soldiers can at no point and in no place be linked with the targets that this system [the Taurus] reaches,” he added.
On the recording, Gerhartz and three other German officers are discussing the chancellor’s refusal, and how it may be possible to get around it, before a 30-minute meeting the air force chief has with the defence minister, Pistorius. They complain that a German journalist, said to be close to Scholz, had been briefed that Taurus is not effective.
They come to the conclusion that a speedy delivery and the use of the missiles in the immediate future would only be possible if German soldiers were involved. Taurus training for Ukrainian soldiers to avoid putting German soldiers on Ukraine soil was a possibility, but would take months of preparation.
Taurus missiles have a longer maximum range than Storm Shadow and Scalp, their French equivalents, of 300 miles. On the call, the German officers discuss potential target types for the Taurus including a “bridge in the east” that is said to be difficult to reach with pillars that are “relatively small”.
The description matches the strategic Kerch Bridge, a key supply route to Russian occupied Crimea, and which despite numerous attempts to bomb it, the Ukrainians have so far been unable to destroy. They conclude it would be technically feasible to blow up the bridge, but it may take “10 to 20 missiles”.
Roderich Kiesewetter, the opposition Christian Democrats’ defence expert, said Russia had leaked the meeting at this moment in time to specifically “undermine a German Taurus delivery”. He suggested the leak was carried out “in order to divert public conversation away” from other issues, including the death of Alexei Navalny.

we know this as several british soldiers have been captured
and from them the russians know our whole game plan
The british people as a whole do not support the israeli agression
but the government is totally out of step with us
NEWS JUST IN….. lol,
Muslim forces on the ground in the UK says leaked report,
Helping Zionist authorities genocide the local population.
Our source reveals, “Multitudes of foreign fighters entering the UK unopposed” A spokesman said it could pose a threat to ‘our Identity, culture & democracy’
🙂 Good init.
For all the west’s lies about Russia it’s actions in Ukraine have not stepped outside the borders of the old Soviet Union. They’re within the old USSR so Russia has invaded Russia. It’s like Texas declaring secession from the Union, the Union invading Texas to prevent it, then all those countries who despise the US declaring America has invaded the independent democratic country of Texas.
America will kill us all for the sake of playing war games with somebody else’s borders.
Russia must bomb all 12 CIA/SAS bunkers on ukras
border from where they steer + control far reaching
Storm shadow + Taurus missiles . if anyone reaches
russian territory Natod agression is openly inviting
russia for nuklear retaliation !
this page used to be much more interesting before covid.. such a shame
@ Glenn Ashton… Hahaha You got it! Same here in the Jewnited States, but the invasion of Orcs here also includes f*ck-tons of mongrel mestizo spics, countless less-than-worthless niggers from Africa and Haiti, and Haji street-shitters along with the backwards lunatic muzzies.
Looking at the photo at the top of that missile, I wonder how many millions of pounds per unit the British slave, er I mean taxpayer, is on the hook and getting gouged for each one? Certainly the price is a couple orders of magnitude more than it should be. I could build something similar with $50 worth of parts form a Radio Shack, some cow shit fertilizer, and a pontoon from an old boat.
During the Tony Blair governments time in office subliminals were put on radio and TV to stop the muslim hordes invited in to the UK from demonstrating rioting etc
as we bombed iraq for the jews
on a bunch of lies
The london stabbings run at one per day on average, why cant they use the subliminals to quieten
the black gangs ?
The man stabbed at Tottenham bus station died in hospital
the black gang ” boyz in the hof ” rang the south london advertiser and claimed responsibility