Patrick Wintour – The Guardian June 7, 2023
A group of Nato countries may be willing to put troops on the ground in Ukraine if member states including the US do not provide tangible security guarantees to Kyiv at the alliance’s summit in Vilnius, the former Nato secretary general Anders Rasmussen has said.
Rasmussen, who has been acting as official adviser to the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, on Ukraine’s place in a future European security architecture, has been touring Europe and Washington to gauge the shifting mood before the critical summit starts on 11 July.
He also warned that even if a group of states did provide Ukraine with security guarantees, others would not allow the issue of Ukraine’s future Nato membership to be kept off the agenda at Vilnius.
He made his remarks as the current Nato chief, Jens Stoltenberg, said the issue of security guarantees would be on the agenda at Vilnius, but added that Nato – under article 5 of the Washington treaty – only provided full-fledged security guarantees to full members.
The US ambassador to Nato, Julianne Smith, said: “We are looking at an array of options to signal that Ukraine is advancing in its relationship with Nato.”
Rasmussen said: “If Nato cannot agree on a clear path forward for Ukraine, there is a clear possibility that some countries individually might take action. We know that Poland is very engaged in providing concrete assistance to Ukraine. And I wouldn’t exclude the possibility that Poland would engage even stronger in this context on a national basis and be followed by the Baltic states, maybe including the possibility of troops on the ground.
“I think the Poles would seriously consider going in and assemble a coalition of the willing if Ukraine doesn’t get anything in Vilnius. We shouldn’t underestimate the Polish feelings, the Poles feel that for too long western Europe did not listen to their warnings against the true Russian mentality.”
He said it would be entirely legal for Ukraine to seek such military assistance.
His striking suggestion that some states may regard the stakes as momentous enough to use their own troops could be seen as a warning to countries that the risks, including the threat to Nato unity, do not only come if Ukraine is provided a quick path to Nato membership, or powerful security guarantees. Germany remains wary of going too far, fearing it would provoke Russia.
Rasmussen said it was imperative that Ukraine should receive written security guarantees, preferably before the summit, but outside the Nato framework. These need to cover intelligence sharing, joint Ukraine training, enhanced ammunition production, Nato interoperability and a supply of arms sufficient to deter Russia from a further attack.
He said that “after a slow start, momentum was now building behind these ideas”, including in France.
But he warned that security guarantees would not be enough.
He said that “some Nato allies might be in favour of the security guarantees to actually avoid a real discussion on Ukraine’s membership aspirations. They hope that by providing security guarantees, they can avoid this question. I don’t think that is possible. I think the Nato issue will be raised at the summit in Vilnius. I’ve spoken with several eastern European leaders, and there is a group of hardcore, eastern central European allies that want at least a clear path for Ukraine towards Nato membership.”
He said history showed it was dangerous to leave Ukraine in the Nato waiting room indefinitely. Even if an invitation to Ukraine to join Nato could not be provided at the Vilnius summit, the possibility of extending an invitation in Washington next year could be referenced. That path to membership, he said, should exclude setting preconditions such as a Nato membership action plan, something neither Sweden nor Finland have been required to adopt as part of their membership path.
“Anything less than that would be a disappointment to Ukraine,” he said.
He rejected the argument that Ukraine could not be offered a path to Nato membership until the war was over, saying this would provide Putin with a veto.
See how this article dances aroung their Nazi satchels.
NATO is fractured. A group of NATO states, is not NATO.
If some European states start sending forces into UKraine, they no longer have NATO protection. If the US uses bases in NATO states to make direct war with Russia in UKraine, those countries, even if not directly involved in the war, will be Russian targets. So Germany springs to mind, and so does Nazi UK.
I keep saying it, Russia must strike first. They should’ve done this a long time ago.
What is happening, is a way to force NATO members into war. The purpose of NATO was a defensive alliance, which has been a global joke for decades.
Long before the SMO, I said the City of London crime cartels wants control of Russian resources, and thus control of China and the world.
“This has been a Western objective since day one of Russia’s Special Military Operation. The fact that it is now being talked about it means it’s only a matter of time before NATO arrives en masse. Because Western Special Forces and weapons specialists are already on the ground in Ukraine”
After which when TSHTF; body bags will be returning en masse to
U.S. military bases.
The Russians must be quaking in their boots.
You might think that the “abundance of caution” light would be on steady (somewhere now), but no, this is a slow motion dumpster fire that needs to get some gas. F-16’s with nukes, next?!
Rasmussen.
Looked him up.
Lied about Iraq having weapons of Mass Destruction.
The Guardian doesn’t mention that fact in this story.
Why is it ignoring this?
It has brought this up before in the context of this very conflict.
This really IS The Guardian :-
‘The Ukrainian forces backed by western governments include groups such as the neo-Nazi Azov battalion, whose symbol is the wartime Nazi stormtroopers’ wolf’s hook. The increasingly repressive Kiev regime is now attempting to ban the Ukrainian communist party, which won 13% of the vote at the last parliamentary elections.
But then Nato, whose members have often included fascist governments in the past, has never been too fussy about democracy. Evidence for its claims that Russian troops have invaded eastern Ukraine is also thin on the ground. Arms supplies and covert intervention in support of the Donbass rebels – including special forces and state-backed irregulars – are another matter.
But that’s exactly what Nato powers such as the US, Britain and France have been busy doing all over the world for years, from Nicaragua to Syria and Somalia. The idea that Russia has invented a new form of “hybrid warfare” in Ukraine is bizarre.
That’s not to say the proxy war between Nato and Russia in Ukraine isn’t ugly and dangerous. But it’s not necessary to have any sympathy for Putin’s oligarchic authoritarianism to recognise that Nato and the EU, not Russia, sparked this crisis – and that it’s the western powers that are resisting the negotiated settlement that is the only way out, for fear of appearing weak.
That settlement will have to include federal autonomy, equal rights for minorities and military neutrality as a minimum – in other words, no Nato. With the scale of bloodshed and the centre of political gravity in Kiev shifting to the right as Ukraine’s economy implodes, only its western sponsors can make that stick. The alternative, after Crimea, is escalation and disintegration.
Nato likes to see itself as the international community. In reality it’s an interventionist and expansionist military club of rich-world states and their satellites used to enforce western strategic and economic interests. As Ukraine shows, far from keeping the peace, Nato is a threat to it.’
Source :-
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/03/nato-peace-threat-ukraine-military-conflict
This is 1939 all over again, but now it’s Putin who is trying to avoid a world war, not Hitler.
NATO HAS NO CLOTHES – The MSM Reels Under Carlson Attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KButwJ6BI5Y
Go ahead ZATO.. DO IT!!🙏
Can’t wait to see the Axis Of Imbeciles- especially ZOGUK! -get a good ass-kicking!!
🤣🤣🤣
Welcome to Whiteocide.
NATO = ZOG
Russia = ZOG
Ukraine = ZOG
A grand Semitic setup to wipe out more whites. ZOG didn’t like the white masses of Ukraine going ‘ethnocentric’ on them, via Azov & other pro-white groups/organizations. Seeing Aryan Ukrainians wearing the Nazi ‘Black Sun’ symbol & displaying swastika tattoos, was too much for Zelensky, Jutin & Commie Russia, so on orders from Chandala Lubavitch, these two Commies are coordinating the war to exterminate them… Their ultimate goal is to create an all nonwhite planet. This war in Ukraine is contributing to that anti-white objective…now you know.
Russia will kill them in masse when
they stupid like ukrainians come in masse!
Putin you are our hope to bring war to USA
shores . they have earned it since 100 years !
If by NATO troops they mean pilots flying F-22, F-35, A-10,
Typhoons and B-1 bombers, then gulp!
Global Jewry will want to attack Germany again via (probably ZOGUK)….
Best guess is Nico X’s suggestion….ALL SIDES currently are run by the FIENDS.
You can be sure the Holodomir…..the deliberate starvation of Ukrainians was calculated.
Recall that the CRYPTO JEW Stalin was the first country/leader in the world to recognise Israel post 1948…..The mass murderer was NOT antisemitic…..thats all BS…..if youve SWALLOWED that BS you need to take an ANTI emetic.
USrael is the brain, ZOGUK the hands. USrael cannot operate in Europe without ZOGUK. So cut off the hands. Britain must be utterly destroyed. Forever.