Mike Whitney – The Unz Review Nov 29, 2022

“It seems probable that Russia will impose a solution. If, as expected, it becomes clear that the West can’t or won’t negotiate, it will behoove Russia to implement a maximalist solution. Or alternatively, Russia “bargains” by showing that it can create a dead zone in Western Ukraine as big as it likes. If Ukraine and its US minders don’t come to their senses, that dead zone will be awfully big.” Yves Smith, Naked Capitalism
How does this end?
How does Russia create a “neutral” Ukraine that isn’t armed-to-the-teeth by Moscow’s enemies? How do they prevent Kiev from conducting joint-military drills with NATO or placing missile sites on Russia’s border? How do they stop the Ukrainian Army from shelling ethnic Russians in the east or training far-right paramilitaries to kill as many Russians as possible? How does Putin change Ukraine into a good neighbor that doesn’t pose a security threat and that doesn’t fuel anti-Russian hatred and bigotry? And, finally, how does one resolve the conflict peacefully if one side refuses to negotiate with the other? Check out this clip from an article at Mint News:
“Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday signed a decree formally announcing the “impossible” prospect of peace negotiations between Ukraine and Russian President Vladimir Putin…
“He (Putin) does not know what dignity and honesty are. Therefore, we are ready for dialogue with Russia, but with another president of Russia,” Zelensky said on Friday. (Mint News)
The fact that Zelensky will not negotiate with Putin does not mean there will be no settlement. It just means that Zelensky will have no voice in the outcome. As the more powerful country, it has always been within Russia’s ability to impose a settlement that achieves its basic national security objectives, and that is precisely what Putin will do. The settlement will not be ideal nor will it completely end the hostilities, but it will provide a layer of protection from Russia’s enemies which is the best that can be hoped for given the circumstances. Regrettably, the settlement will also terminate Ukraine’s existence as a viable, contiguous state. And– after Russia has finished its special military operation– Ukraine will face a dismal future as a deindustrialized wastelands that is entirely dependent on its allies in the west for its survival.
Here is an excerpt from an article by Moscow-based journalist John Helmer who thinks the Russian army will clear a vast area of central Ukraine in its upcoming winter offensive, and that much of that land will become part of a 100 kilometer-wide Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) that will protect Russia from Ukrainian missile and artillery attacks. As Helmer notes, the model for this military-imposed settlement is “the armistice of Panmunjom of July 27, 1953, which ended the Korean War…. On the ground inside the UDZ (Ukraine Demilitarized Zone) there may be no electricity, no people, nothing except for the means to monitor and enforce the terms of the armistice.” Here’s more from Helmer:
Military source:…. Once the destruction of these targets has been completed, the remnants of the infrastructure will be mined, and the area planted with sensing devices. The armies will then begin a rapid, staged withdrawal behind Russian lines where the process of fortification and entrenchment has already begun.”
“Civilians and disarmed Ukrainian troops – except for the Ukro-Nazi units — will be allotted one or two corridors through which they will be permitted to leave the zone. They’d better not dawdle.”…
The sources agree there will be a new military demarcation line before the thaw next spring; they differ on how it is being drawn now, and how it will look next April. “For now the line will be on the Dnieper with the zone extending from the west bank into the rump Ukraine – my guess is at a depth of not less than 100km. This will put Russian territory out of the range of most Ukrainian artillery. A 100km-deep zone will also give the Russian forces time to detect and intercept anything in flight…
“In the northern sector – that’s from Kramatorsk and Slovyansk to Kharkov… these are garrisons and staging areas of hate on or near to Russia’s borders; they will not be spared ….(and) have qualified them for de-electrification, de-population, and de-nazification.”
“The point to emphasize, especially in the Russian operations in the north… will not seize and hold territory. … The idea won’t be to occupy the territory, let alone administer it, for any length of time. The goal will be to destroy enemies who raise their heads and the infrastructure they rely on; lay mines and sensors; and then withdraw.”
“Once the assigned transportation and logistics nodes have been taken, the job of destroying them by engineer units will begin. Bridges, roads, railroads, marshalling yards, rolling stock, airfields, fuel storage and dispensaries, electrical substations, transmission and communications towers, central offices, warehouses, laydown areas, agricultural equipment – anything that could possibly be used to support the Ukrainian-NATO effort east of the zone’s western border will be destroyed. That will be also be the ground forces’ job – more comprehensive and thorough than missile and drone strikes can achieve.”
“Civilians and disarmed fighters, without their motorized equipment, will be permitted to walk out of the zone to specially prepared buses (as Surovikin supervised in Syria) with whatever they can carry on their backs…. Anyone who chooses to stay inside the zone will be informed explicitly via radio, flyers, and loudspeaker that they are considered enemy combatants and will be targeted accordingly. After a prescribed amount of time, the ‘golden bridges’ for the exiting population will be destroyed. For those remaining they will have had no power, sanitation, or communications …”(“Ukraine Armistice– How the UDZ of 2023 will separate the Armies like the Korean DMZ of 1953”, John Helmer, Dances With Bears
Helmer sums it up perfectly. Putin is going to create a vast, uninhabitable no-man’s-land in the center of Ukraine that will separate east from west and end Ukraine’s existence as a viable, contiguous state. This is what a military-imposed settlement looks like. It’s not ideal and it doesn’t necessarily stop all the fighting, but it does address Russia’s basic security requirements which Washington chose to ignore.
Rest assured, that Washington will not like this settlement and will never agree to the new borders. But the United States will not have the final say-so in this matter and that is extremely important, because Washington’s role as the “guarantor of global security” is now a thing of the past. Russia is going to decide Ukraine’s borders and that’s just the way it’s going to be. So, yes, we can expect to hear the gnashing of teeth at NATO Headquarters and the UN and at the White House, but to little effect. The matter is settled unless, of course, the US and NATO want to commit ground forces to the conflict which, we think, will precipitate a split in NATO that will inevitably lead to its collapse. Either way, Ukraine’s fate is going to be decided in Moscow not Washington, and that reality is going to have a significant impact of the distribution of global power. There’s a new sheriff in town and he is definitely not an American.
Bottom line: We think Helmer’s analysis is the most probable scenario going forward. Putin has showed admirable restraint to this point, but after 9 months of pointless drudgery and carnage, it’s time to wrap this thing up. Moscow has always had a sledgehammer in its toolkit and now it’s going to use it. We would have preferred that it didn’t end this way, but there’s no sense in crying over spilt milk. Washington wanted to stretch this war out for as long as possible to bleed Russia dry so it couldn’t project power beyond its borders or obstruct US plans to “pivot to Asia”. But Putin foiled that plan. He didn’t step into Washington’s trap and he’s not going to pump blood and money down a black hole. He’s going to settle this matter once-and-for-all and be done with it. This is from an interview with Colonel Douglas MacGregor:
“This entire conflict could have been avoided had we simply recognized Moscow’s legitimate interests in what happens in Ukraine…. What happens in Ukraine is important to Russians…. So, we could have intervened early on and said, ‘Let’s have a ceasefire and talk’, in fact, we could have listened to the Russians for the last 10 or 20 years about their concerns about what was happening inside Ukraine. And, I think now we see with the Zelensky regime– a very dangerous government that is incurably hostile to Russia (and) that responds exclusively to instructions from Washington– that has decided that it wants to fatally weaken Russia in any way possible… The solution to this is –not to join this futile and pointlessly destructive war with Moscow– (but) to get some sense into peoples’ minds in the government in Kiev.” Colonel Douglas MacGregor, “Ukraine is about to be Annihilated”, You Tube; 2:10 minute-mark
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IMO, the decision has already been made. Ukraine is going to be split in two whether Washington likes it or not. That’s just the way it is.


Not good at all. Long range missile will be used from any where in Ukraine.
Their is a better solutions, create militias in all area conquered and control by Russia. Let the people empower themselves. and they will prevent the rise of groups that are not good.
The Americans are the real issue. They will find some ways to use Ukraine on the Russia borders.
The enemy of the world is in the WEST.
Technology High, Morality Low, spells Disaster, Destruction.
I am sure most on here have heard about, or seen the vids of Russian prisoners of war being executed. These vids were filmed by delighted Nazis and put on social media.
They were probably ordered to do this by Zelensky or his immediate team, because it does two things.
One, it makes it almost impossible for Putin to negotiate, and two, it attempts to force the NWO sect to keep supporting UKrainian Nazis.
There is another possible route, and that is decapitate the UKrainian regime. Me, I don’t think the UK deep state will let the US do this, because the UK is so deeply invested in its 20 years war with Russia. If the SAS are protecting Zelensky, then he will have a very elaborate security system. We are just talking safe houses here. Since 2014, they’ve been building networks of tunnels and bunkers all over Kiev. So if and while Z is in K, he will be moved about like a ghost, and he’ll have a few doubles as well.
We could see the Russians sweep over Western UKraine, and then pull back, and then a big buffer zone.
The British don’t care about the actual war. They know they can’t win, so they’ll try and drag it out for as long as possible, then a Gladio operation
Right. Brilliant. Well done Mr Helmer. Poland will grab Galicia, Russia will enforce its boundary along the Dnieper river, and the remaining rump of Ukraine will fester as a satanic core of anti-Europe. Its vast wheatfields taken over by Monsanto etc to produce GM wheat, its young people continue to be sold on the white slave trade or else used for organ harvesting, its soldiers will keep their satanic tattoos and gear, and the US will continue manging their forbidden bio-warfare labs.
One could have imagined a better future, had the politicians of Ukraine wished to adhere to the Minsk agreement which they signed: but they didn’t.
Spot on assessment that I’ve adhered to for some time now: in lieu of a negotiated peace Zelensky is forcing a military assurance that addresses Russia’s concern with the Ukraine adoption of NATO missile batteries. This is a good example of what might have happened had the USSR been stupid (like a Zelensky) during the Cuba missile crisis.
No DMZ scheme will work- especially the one depicted in the map. Incidents would continue to be staged by US/UK trained provocateurs. The only answer is either to wipe Ukraine off the map completely or to reduce it to its pre-Soviet borders.
What these KGB/CIA shills like Whitney etc., don’t tell you though is that NATO/Russia/China are all governed by the same transnational syndicate of Jewish central bankers/oligarchs–as they dialectically advance WEF policies & setup the white masses of Ukraine/Europe to be eliminated/slaughtered.
The question is though, is why is TTS & all these supposed white ‘right-wing’ types of these various western nations supporting some Communist State (Russia), that erects Lenin statues & imprisons Russians who ‘deny the holocaust’? But hey, they supported these Commies in WWII so why not again?? lol
Nick Kollerstrom: I thought the Jews were moving in? This is what we were told on this site, repeatedly.
They are in a mess, because to me, the Russians decide everything in all possible scenarios. I think they’d like to bump off Z, but that means someone else will sign the ultimate peace treaty.
Russia isn’t looking for an off ramp, but the US is, and chances are, Russia will will well before November 2024.
How many Nazis will leave Kiev/UKraine by chopper to be settled in the UK and US? Does this remind you of another NWO Nazi adventure?
with advanced missile developement
no DMZ will work . putin has to push
back zelensky to LVIV + GALICIA
giving them ULTIMATUM to sign
eternal neutrality treaty + demilitarisation
or get the consequences .
Yeah..well …..DR. Obvious
My past posts have submitted that Putin and NATO are in bed together…Ukraine is F$CKED either way.
At the next geo-political quantum level….Russia having a Buffer “demilitarized” Zone is duuuhhhhh mode.
Ukrainians should have reviewed the Danzig Corridor issue from WW2….how ethnic groups as played as pawns….(but again the stoopid Poles got sucked in…..and the rest is history)
Looks like Russia gets all of Ukraine’s PORT areas…that is crucial.
This leaves what remains as a crippled Ukraine that can be used. abused, manipulated by (((usual suspects))). As I stated earlier watch for massive waves of Ukrainian refugees to overwhelm Western nations .
I cant see Russia occupying any part of Ukraine that is not majority Russian speaking also it will surely take all lands adjacent to the Black Sea. What the Western cretins have not taken into account is the large number of Azov terrorists that will be seeking new homes just like their ISIS proxies they will be heading our way. Just like the fanatics were looking to build a Caliphate ultimately controlled by Zionists so the Western version was looking to build a “neo nazi ” caliphate in Europe again controlled by Zionists. The recent arrests in Italy exposed the long term plan. Like their ISIS counterparts the mad dogs may turn their attention on those they will blame for the upcoming defeat and thanks to these neo liberals they have plenty of weapons.
This from Zelenski. a homo-erotic-porn-dancing, cocaine sniffing, public-assets thieving slut of a little fellow who holidays on the Côte d’Azur at ‘his’ country’s expense while ‘his’ people are cold and hungry.
‘He (Putin) does not know what dignity and honesty are.’
I hope he soon meets the end he deserves.