Ukrainian troops prepare to fight Russian forces in Donbass
MK Bhadrakumar – Indian Punchline April 4, 2022
An indignant Moscow has angrily demanded a United Nations Security Council meeting on Monday over the allegations of atrocities by Russian troops in areas around Kiev through the past month. Prima facie, this allegation is fake news but it can mould misperceptions by the time it gets exposed as disinformation.
A Tass report says: “The Russian Defense Ministry said on Sunday that the Russian Armed Forces had left Bucha, located in the Kiev region, on March 30, while “the evidence of crimes” emerged only four days later, after Ukrainian Security Service officers had arrived in the town. The ministry stressed that on March 31, the town’s Mayor Anatoly Fedoruk had confirmed in a video address that there were no Russian troops in Bucha. However, he did not say a word about civilians shot dead on the street with their hands tied behind their backs.”
Even more surprising is that within minutes of the “breaking news”, western leaders — heads of state, foreign ministers, former politicians — popped up with statements duly kept ready and only based on the videos, seconds-long videos and a clutch of photos, ready to pour accusations. No expert opinion was sought, no forensic work was done, no opportunity given to the accused to be heard.
French President Emmanuel Macron broke his election campaign where he’s in a dead heat with Marine Le Pen for reelection in next Sunday’s poll to brand the alleged Russian atrocities as “war crime”. So did German Chancellor Olaf Scholz who is in big trouble too as Germany is posting inflation at +7.3 percent in March.
There’s nothing unusual about beleaguered politicians catching hold of bogeymen. Intelligent minds like Macron and Scholz’s must be realising by now their flawed policies leading inexorably to such a strategic defeat at the hands of Russia. But the big question is: Why such theatrics just at this point?
The fake news surfaced even as the Phase 2 of Russia’s special operation is slated to begin within the week in the eastern Donbass region. Something like 60-80000 Ukrainian troops, rated to be the best units of the armed forces, have been encircled in Donbass.
The Russian feint paid off in pinning down the Ukrainian forces in Kiev through past month. By the time the truth dawned on the Kiev set-up ( and their western “advisors), the damage was done. The enormity of the resultant situation needs some explanation.
The above map reproduced from the Novosti (unfortunately, in Russian language) on the exact ground situation as of April 3 and the commentary by Ivan Andreev, an experienced war correspondent who covered the Russian operations in Syria, gives the salience of the cauldron in Donbass where the crème de la crème of the Ukrainian forces numbering several divisions are entrapped, isolated by opposing forces from their logistical base and other friendly forces.
The cauldron is fairly large, marked in blue and black stripes on the map in the upper reaches of the Donbass region in the direction of Kharkiv. The massive Russian column that retreated from the Kiev region a week ago is manoeuvring in a big arc toward that cauldron bypassing Chernihiv in the north and the cities of Sumy and Kharkiv (near the Russian border in the northeast).
The Ukrainian forces are well-armed and have fortified themselves heavily but are unable to escape from the entrapment. Nor is it feasible for Kiev to send reinforcements as the countryside to the west through consists of largely open farmlands (all the way to the Dniepr River). The Russians have air supremacy and it is impossible to hide any enemy movements from their roving eyes.
The Russian forces have put out of action all nearby airports and destroyed the nearby Ukrainian oil reserves systematically through Phase 1 of the operation. As I wrote in a previous blog, three days ago, Russian forces dealt a devastating blow: “Notably, the Mirgorod military airfield in central Poltava Region, a strategically important hub, has been taken out of action and several Ukrainian combat helicopters and aircraft found in its camouflaged car parks, as well as fuel and aviation weapons depots have been destroyed.”
Equally, Kharkiv has been surrounded and “in a high-precision strike with the Iskander operational-tactical missiles on the defence headquarters in the city on Thursday, “more than 100 nationalists and mercenaries from Western countries” were confirmed as killed.”
Nonetheless, the Ukrainian forces are expected to put up a good fight rather than surrender — although surrounded, without air cover, and having no scope to rotate forces or enough fuel to engage in maneuver warfare and with ammunition running out.
To be sure, a major battle is approaching, the most decisive in the entire Russian special operation so far. The catch is, the cauldron also has plentiful settlements of ethnic Russian population (including Russian passport holders) and the offensive will be a long grind patiently executed to avoid civilian casualty or destruction of civilian infrastructure.
That is to say, Phase 2 may last anywhere up to a month or so to be completed. Make no mistake, the Russians have to win here (which they will) as they will also be breaking the back of the Ukrainian armed forces. Despite all the bluster by Zelensky, Kiev will realise the enormity of the defeat and his western mentors will see the writing on the wall too.
To be sure, a whole month lies ahead where the western strategy will be to incessantly manufacture fake news, intensify the information war. Even some false flag operation may be staged under the supervision of western intelligence operatives.
In a worst case scenario, Kiev may even play its last card — chemical weapons. Russia has publicised details of locations where Ukraine has kept stockpiles of chemical weapons. The US is known to have supplied as military aid special gear (gas masks, protective clothing, etc.) to cope with chemical weapons and given special training for collective protection.
The alacrity with which Macron and Scholz consumed the fake news is a harbinger of a new phase in the information war. Succinctly put, there is a sober awakening in Paris and Berlin that the Russian operation is successfully meeting the set objectives.
“April”, TS Eliot wrote in his masterpiece The Wasteland, “is the cruellest month, breeding Lilacs out of the dead land, mixing Memory and desire, stirring Dull roots with spring rain.” But the dark irony of this year’s “Aprilness” is going to be that the fecundity and renewal here will be about Russia’s regeneration in a world of both history and the myths spawned by quarantined western minds.
An irresponsible friend who plainly doesn’t have my best interests at heart dared me to put a link up to this – I am going to regret doing this, aren’t I?
https://csarlog.blogspot.com/2022/04/satire-isnt-simply-dead-it-now-is-as-if.html?m=1
Sorry to disagree but April is the very best month of the year.
God Bles Us , Everyone !
“Even more surprising is that within minutes of the “breaking news”, western leaders — heads of state, foreign ministers, former politicians — popped up with statements duly kept ready ”
The same sort of thing happened on the morning of 911 when a former head of the Israeli Mossad popped up on the BBC with the false answer to who did it.
I’m afraid there’ll be a special place in Hell for ZOGUK…. Planet Earth’s PREMIER PURVEYOR of Fake News WAR Propaganda
Somehow you can read the ether in these pictures, and Ukraine is showing us a VERY low-energy life-style, still lacking in all the God and magic that the Commies were stamping out.
This is an impressively informative, logically impeccable clarification of the present state of the war in Ukrania. And Scholtz and Macron get it in the neck very gratifyingly from MK Bhadrakumar. They deserve it, amply. For goodness sakes! These grown men, leaders of their states, burble the improbably asinine lies of our seriously sick MSM for the obvious, and utterly dishonorable, purpose of misleading their voting public. What is achieved by this? Even supposing that their senseless second-hand lies succeed to deceive the majority of their voting public to the point that they have it seething with hatred of Putin and Russia: Can these Great-Reset-pushing , rancid politicians benefit themselves, or their Great-Resetting paymasters, in some way? That they can seems to me less likely than that, when the show is over, they will up sticks and run for sanctuary from an infuriated public that has no taste for being Greatly Reset.
Fake news alright.
Immature, childish, silly lies peddled by the not so big (these days) international, lock-step, lying machine. Meanwhile Russia is getting on with completing its mission.
400 plus allegedly killed by Russia.
Didn’t the article say the Russians left days before?
If anybody died it was a few Ukrainians killed wishing for Russian rule by the hand of other Ukrainians.
You’re witnessing the beginning of a new ‘Holodomor’. The first one in the 1930’s was engineered by Communist Jews & their agent Stalin to eradicate millions of Germanic Ukrainians via the cover of ‘collectivization’. The present one is once again being orchestrated by the Jewish Overlords via their Judeo-Communist agent Putin & Soviet Russia’s ‘World Without Nazism’ organization to liquidate more pro-white Ukrainians..Both were/are racial attacks on the Aryan race, yet most white gentiles can’t figure this out..
@Nico X
“… to liquidate more pro-white Ukrainians …”
LOL!
You mean the “pro-white” Ukrainians all funded by ultra-zionist Jews like Kolomoisky (sp?) and several other jew oligarchs!?!
You need to get off the crack pipe, pal, and this whole “aryan race” schtick. As another astute observer has pointed out, people like you are either jew agents or feds acting as “agent provocateurs” on various discussion boards. No “pro-white” person would ever praise that degenerate hunchback midget and jew-puppet hitler.
@Peter Petherington: That also includes JewSA as well, which is another part of the same hydra snaking it’s way around the planet.
Nico X,
The videos are fake. More Boston Bombing/Sandy Hook BS.
If there’s any atrocities going on, it’s from the Zelensky regime to Russian Ukrainians.
The man is a lying, degenerate narcissist, singing to the choir of Western politicians and like-minded, degenerate narcissists.
We’re seeing the same hysteria, we saw on 9/11, the lies about Bin Laden behind it, hiding in caves in Afghanistan After that was Saddam gassing his people & WMD’s. After that Gaddafi and subsequent atrocities on his own population. Then Syria…
All brought invasion into those lands and they’re destruction (save Syria, thanks to Russia).
It’s more pantomime to keep the people distracted while they usher in the world government, digital currency, social credit score and totalitarian new world order, all mixed in with more ‘viruses’, famine, poverty, high unemployment, civil chaos and death.
Nico X, go and suck a dick, you asinine fool. Still peddling the same rubbish. You’re just a sad, pathetic Nazi worshipper.
Nico X: Now this is exactly the comment i was expecting from satanic low life like yourself. Your master Zelensky must be proud of you.
I see the ZOG & deranged Commie agents are back at it again–they’re getting rattled Rixon, seeing how I’m demolishing their CIA/KGB narrative & exposing the war for what it really is: a Zionist-Communist set up to liquidate Aryan Ukrainians (‘Nazis’) They’re afraid…afraid of the truth spreading..According to the Russian government’s ‘World Without Nazism’ program all Ukrainian civilians are proto-Nazis & are to be eliminated..
Zionists and Nazis both share a narrow view of the nation-State, that is deliberatly constructed to create perpetuell war, in the interest of their masters.
White elephant above is a “flat earfer”……
Well actually he is far more likely to be one of those nefarious secret police cuntz that the British call
MI5…..They’re on par with The Stazi who are the secret police according to the British media.There are completely reliable “reports” that the British media is FULL of these SOB’s.You were able to catch a glimpse of these bastards….in the Assange case….betrayed to the secret police by none other than the “freedom luvin” Guardian newspaper.
Then there was the Dr David Kelly case….now shoved down Orwells memory hole….of course!!.
Have you seen a photograph of “Brillo Pad”…thats what Private Eye used to call him….a preposterous figure…..Private Eye was “captured” by a little shit editor and was never the same again…..a good summation of the type of upmarket trash that now runs the gutter press in London today.
Have you seen the photos of Western “democratic” parliaments giving Zelensky standing ovations.THIS is what used to happen in Stalinist countries and woe betied you if you were the first to stop clapping.
Think about it….a disgusting little jew and former comedian getting standing ovations…..THINK Netanyahoos visit to the US Congress….thats THIRTY standing ovations…..Phew! What a cohencidence……Jewish Power in action.
Guess what….the vast majority of the British public wouldn’t have a clue they are governed by the jews……
It is logical to suggest that the Jewish heavyweight Ukrainian brothers may have had their move to the top “facilitated”….given this form of entertainment is largely run by the jews.(there is one of the fiends running British boxing)
In a nutshell the 7 Dimensions of Hell:
1st level causing harm limited to individuals
2nd- causing harm to parts of society, e.g. large scale fraud
3rd – causing harm to large parts of society – e.g. adulterating food or medicines etc
4th – organised harm to parts of society
5th – instigating others to cause harm to society
6th – causing harm to part of a nation
7th – causing harm to a nation as a whole.
Meaning no violator of natural divine law gets away scot free at the end of the day however secure they might assume themselves in this temporary state of existence where bribery and blackmail assume (temporary) power. Reality will hit the fan when the time is up; Free will chooses its own path in life but is also the litmus test/yardstick for choosing the soul’s ultimate destiny. Only a change in direction towards a more ethical standard would be the saving grace for the soul destined for the 7 dimensions of Hell.
@Nico X,
when you push the ludicrous “ra-ra hitler” and “ra-ra nazis” line, don’t be surprised that reasonable and intelligent folk will call you out as either being a troll, or an agent-provocateur. Either way, no one takes you seriously, and you become subject of derision, contempt, and laughter … that’s as in laughter at you, not with you!
Anyone with an iota of historical knowledge will know that nazi scum caused the death of millions of aryans from 1939-45: here’s just a few … countless Poles (sub-scandinavian tribe), tens of millions of Russians (another branch of the scandinavian race), French (a sub Germanic tribe … the Franks), not to mention over 10million of the best Germans themselves that were exterminated because of the hunchback piece of human garbage hitler. When you count all the other nationalities, **all** European (Czechs, Austrians, Italians, etc), who perished at the hands of those nazi low-life’s, the figure nears over 50million.
So which is it? are you a weasel jew troll or a two-bit low-end contract employee for the pedos at MI5? They do hire your types on a contract basis for exactly these type of jobs. What gives you away is your view of the super-degenerate and sicko Crowley, who was in facta full agent (not a low-end civilian contract employee like you) of her Majesty’s Secret Service. That’s an easy provable historical fact that Crowley himself never denied, and openly admitted to.
Mike D,
“Anyone with an iota of historical knowledge will know that nazi scum caused the death of millions of aryans from 1939-45: here’s just a few …”
You are incredibly wrong about Hitler. And no, before you decide to accuse me of being a national socialist, I affiliate to no political ideology.
I strongly recommend that you read two excellent books. The first is ‘The Bad War’ by Mike King, which gives a detailed history, chronologically, of events from the beginning of the 20th century onwards, through WW1 & 2. The second is ‘Tell the Truth Shame the Devil’ by Gerard Menuhin (the son of Yehudi Menuin).
You will find, that it was the west who declared war upon Germany, not the other way around. You will find that Hitler sought to reunite Germans, alienated after the Treaty of Versailles. Everything Hitler did up until the west waged war upon Germany, was perfectly accepted by all. It was his changing the money supply to a national money, instead of jewish private bank money and the arrest and subsequent imprisoning of a Rothschild that brought the world to war.
So, in answer to your statement, it was Roosevelt, Churchill and de Gaulle, puppets of the jews, who brought about WW2 and the subsequent deaths of all those millions of Europeans.
Had we united with Hitler and destroyed Russia we would not be in the mess we’re in today because guaranteed, Hitler would have rooted out all the jews and freemasons in positions of power and utterly obliterated communism (judaism).
I must be really hitting these Jews & Antifa-Commie scum hard with my various posts..Notice Rixon, these ZOG internet agents like ‘Mike D’ can’t refute my posts, so they resort to scurrilous slander & ad hominems…You’re not fooling anyone Zionist-Commie rat.
The events in Bucha can only be two things.
Crisis actors playing dead or Ukrainians of that town having been executed and killed by the SBU, Ukrainian Army or National Police of Ukraine.
I don’t believe for one second that Russia would committ such a gross act of human deprivation. But I do believe Ukrainian Government is capable of doing such a thing.
On Zero Hedge A video from Telegram was uploaded it showed Ukrainian Army executing Russian servicemen, the video was brutal, actually made me sick to my guts, as one if the Russian Servicemen was still alive and kicking out and moving, Knowing that I was watching a human life being snuffed out in the most brutal way, it was a unit of Russians about 5-10.
Now they were alive before they were killed with Head shots, as you could see the blood running from those wounds were they lay on the road.
And the Ukrainians were just laughing taken pictures and vidoes laughing, high fiving, posing for Photos.
Thats just sick and tells you everything you need to know what Russia is up against.
That is why I want Russia to go scorched earth on these Vermin, they are vermin.
I feel terribly sorry for all innocent lifes lost,
My Grandparents were given safe passage to Australia after WW2 from Yugoslavia.
Australia gave them everything, My mothers parents were already here having been established since 1840.
My Father father worked the next 35 years in the Steel works.
My parents gave me a good life, Im tremendously lucky to live in Australia although it’s been destroyed through immigration from the Middle East nonetheless it’s a great country.
Anyways getting off Track.
Some on this site like Nico can’t help themselves and they expose themself as a Rabit Zio-Nazi gronk.
I laugh at Rabid Parasites such as yourself.
You come in here with your diatribe hate against anyone that calls out the Ukrainian Regime of Ethnic Cleansing of the Russian speaking Ukrainians in the East. 2014- present day. Russia is going to grind those Nazis into the ground. I couldn’t are if they are white, with Ideology like that they don’t deserve to breathe as far as I’m concerned. Russia has hastly arranged appointments with their creator.
Reports coming out of Ukraine from the Russian side are quite scarce, But I have herd Russia ain’t funking around. It warned Ukrainians and NATO that it doesn’t want these kinds of people on its borders.
America wouldn’t tolerate such kinds of people, then again Mexico is being Run by Cartels and it seems America doesn’t care.
You hate Muslims, Arabs, Blks. So you are a True Zio Nazi full of bile.
Probably live in ya Mums basement.
You most certainly are not married nor a father, I mean who in their right mind would go out with such a hate filled coward as yourself.
And you call me the Zionist and communist. Im from Australia I vote Independent I love Golf and taking my Boat out fishing my 4.78 Quintrex with 70hp Mercury.
I laugh at cockroaches like yourself
Ukraine is killing it’s own – which is really Jewish Zelensky and his Jewish commanders killing Goyim for anti-Russia propaganda.
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@White Elephant …
Mike King, whom you reference, is a first-rate con artist. He’s most definitely a Q-tard, or pretends to be.
You see, you’re not from around here: i.e. eastern sea-board of the U.S. so you’re not familiar with a special type of conmen that are prevalent in “Joy-sey” (New Jersey where King is from), New York, and the Boston area.
Let me be clear: Mike is not some kind of disinformation shill. He is not mentally ill. As well, he believes NOTHING of what he writes. So what is he? I already told you: a Joy-sey con man cashing in on millions of gullible Americans who have fallen for the Q garbage and Trump clown circus show. Like all conmen, he is clever.
So he tells the gullible, simple, innocent, not to mention generous Q crowd **exactly** what they want to hear. I don’t know about English culture, but Americans are very generous with their wallet, so they feel compelled to reciprocate financially with small donations of $5, $10, $20 … etc on a monthly basis to these types. But multiple that humble sum by a hundred or so from across the country every month and you got yourself a fully paid job, spewing garbage.
So, that’s Mike King for you. Just a quick perusing through his website quickly reveals that he is actually mocking his audience. His writings are full of contradictions. But he doesn’t care: as long as the duped wire those small petty sums, he’s laughing his way to the bank.
@Mike D or should that be Mike Kettle ? can’t quite put my finger on it but something about your postings have a definite “stink” and nothing to do with the resident Dave Spart…
@TeeJay
“…or should that be Mike Kettle..” No. It should be Mike D.
” … your postings have a definite “stink”” I will take that as a compliment: yes, I do my best to expose the unbearable stench of trolls and other assorted sociopaths who defile discussion boards with incendiary or juvenile topics and comments (i.e. “Hitler was a saviour” or “the earth is flat” etc)
Here’s a rule of thumb to live by: those who praise that hunchback midget jew-puppet online are almost always ADL provocateurs.
Mike D,
With all due respect, Mike King has written many a great article on reality and why things are the way they are as well as call out the jews for their destruction of the western civilization. He’s also written many good books such as (other than ‘The Bad War’), Planet Rothschild, The British Mad Dog, Teddy the Terrible and much more.
He’s opened up the eyes of many who have read his books.
Cashing in or making a living writing the truth and exposing the deceit? I’ll go with the latter.
No, I’m not from the USA, so I remain impartial in inter state camaraderie.
You have your views on Mike King, I disagree, so what about Gerard Menuhin, who goes into even more detail on Hitler, Germany and WWII than Mike King in ‘The Bad War’? Gerard, whose father is a jew, writes very much of the jewish menace. He’s got no dog in this fight yet exposes the simple truths about Germany, we in the rest of the west were never told and most certainly should have been at school, such as the many peace attempts of Hitler, to end the conflict and unite to fight against Russia. All of the improvements he administered to Germany and her people. Laws to protect children. His closing down of freemason lodges and throwing them into the work camps.
Mike, the bottom line really is simple; we’ve been lied to about Hitler, Germany and WW2.
@White Elephant
Quote: “… we’ve been lied to about Hitler, Germany and WW2…”
No. We have not. You see, I came to my conclusions about that degenerate hunchback midget a long time ago, not by studying the bigger geopolitics, but being an amateur military historian or military buff of sorts. The hardcore type who has studied all the battle plans, and has visited famous battle sites, goes to obscure auctions for artefacts, etc etc …
I highly doubt you have studied the technical details of the various battle plans of the Wehrmacht during the Russian campaign (aka Barbarossa) from 1941 onward. I will be brief. The records are well kept because the Germans were meticulous record keepers, so we have a very solid understanding of the various military tactics and maneuvers employed by the Wehrmacht on the Eastern Front, and what transpired behind the scenes.
Those who praise that degenerate midget do so out of sheer ignorance of the facts. What is stunning is that from the very beginning, but especially after mid-1942 **everything** Hitler did was the exact **opposite** of what highly experienced field officers (all of them from the Prussian aristocracy) were recommending. Many quit, including Guderian; Hoepner, a top general was fired among dozens of others. Anyway, battle after battle were revised on his whims, some of them quite outrageously modified, causing the death of tens of thousands of German soldiers … all of them utterly senseless. One can make an extremely strong case against that midget that his entire goal was to cause the death of as many Germans as possible. Like I said, it’s quite bewildering and jaw-dropping when you study PRIMARY sources and read the minutes of the meetings, and how Hitler would change weeks of battle plans with a snap of a finger, invariably leading to catastrophic results.
I highly recommend you read the works of a real gifted historian like David Stahel, instead of some wackjob conspiracy quack. There’s a reason why Stahel has a PhD and teaches at a reputable university, and his books are published by Cambridge University Press. Anyway, the devil lies in the details. And it’s in the details that the degenerate midget’s true evil is revealed.
@ Mike D.
I.Q. tests depend on data input sufficient to the resolution of the problem; although one possible answer to any given question is always that the answer cannot be determined from the data presented.
Otherwise, the validity of the cognitive task depends on the detail describing the conundrum, that is, upon its precise metalanguage.
This is not the case with historical study, which depends upon breadth of reading and a contextually-bound impartial assessment of documentary or forensic evidences. History is dangerously unalike to an I.Q. test, in fact.
The parameters to historical questions cannot be crystallized into A,B,C.s very readily. However, to arrive at any fair understanding of history, particularly where there is ongoing ideological antagonism involved, monolithic dogmas absolutely must be put aside. The point is to immerse yourself in the time and place of itself, as if you were a contemporary participant.
Without prejudice, your comments, unfortunately, betray a lack of scholarly attention to known (even if occluded) facts. This derives from you not having given sufficient attention to the German war-time records nor the copious amounts of data incrementally becoming available via the Soviet archives, post-Glasnost.
Here are some facts;
• Germany did not invade Poland. The Polish armed forces had been mobilized and were positioned along Germany’s border. In international law, mobilizing your armies and offensively manoeuvring them, is tantamount to a declaration of war. Prior to September the 1st 1939, Polish armed forces had crossed the German border and killed Germans in their own country, fourteen times. Germany had the legal right to defend itself and to defend ethnic Germans within Poland’s borders.
• Germany did not declare war on Britain or France.
• German soldiers were not responsible for Katyn.
• There was no holocaust of the European jews. No soaps, no lampshades, no shrunken heads.
• Operation Barbarossa was a pre-emptive not a proactive action. The Soviet Union was two weeks away from initiating their planned invasion of Germany.
• The Soviet Union planned to occupy all of Western mainland Europe militarily. If it were not for the Wehrmacht, it would have been so.
Just these very few of the many truths I could cite, ought to be provocative enough for an inquisitive and free mind to trouble to enquire more deeply and to reassess the spirit of their received wisdoms.
Follow the causes of actions more and the consequences of actions less. Though, they do tend to blur a bit, historiographically speaking.
Adolf Hitler was the most brilliant auto-didact of the twentieth century; the greatest peace-time leader of the twentieth century and as a military leader, he nearly pulled off the impossible. I say all of this with complete neutrality and as, what I believe, to be fair historical assessment, based upon a decent knowledge of all the varied claims for the events proceeding from the declaration of war against Germany by the World Zionist Congress in 1933.
Mike D,
No, I have not looked into great detail on his battle plans as I was far more interested in the man, his vision, what he implemented into German society and how he dragged Germany from almost certain death at the hands of the Jews, Weimar Republic post Treaty of Versailles. I was more interested in the fact that he defended himself from the attack of the world’s super power, the world’s next superpower and most of Europe, all because he removed his country from the grip of the Rothschild bank.
Andyay gives a sterling reply above, to your accusations on Germany and like me, impartial, is objective in debate contrary your clear subjection.
You have an axe to grind with Hitler, why?
What is it about him that really angers you Mike D?
Did you lose family in the war? If you did then join the club, we all did, but it is NOT Adolf Hitler you should be casting your blame upon, but instead your own Teddy Roosevelt and Dwight D Eisenhower, as we in the UK blame the warmonger, Winston Churchill. If you care to do your research, Neville Chamberlain avoided war with Germany. He was, in fact, going to implement the economic brilliance, Germany used to pull itself out of poverty, upon the British nation. He was going to REMOVE Britain from the grip of Jewry and therefore, the traitors in government, the aristocracy and the msm, had him removed and Churchill put in his place.
Your emotional reply ignores all of this. It ignores the blatantly obvious fact that Hitler was the bullied one here, who desperately tried to avert war.
The deaths of Germans, you say are as a result of Hitler’s blunder are falsely placed. The deaths of German, British, American, European and all those outside of Europe, were a result of Jewish puppet presidents and prime ministers in the US, UK, Europe and Russia.
You can study battle tactics until the cows come home but that will never paint the proper picture of Hitler and his brilliance as a nation’s leader. To not believe so, proves overwhelming ignorance, most certainly as a result of an emotional grudge, for whatever reason.
The bottom line really is quite simple; we, in the west should have fought alongside Germany and destroyed communism and dealt, once and for all, with the ‘jewish question’, putting it firmly to rest. Instead we fought against him, PROTECTING the communist ideology, which now controls every aspect of western civilization. Mike, it was America who saved Stalin and Russia, when the Germans were closing in for victory. I’d think about that for a while? I’d think about just how many people Stalin was responsible for murder of and then realise that your country’s politicians allowed it to happen and saved him to continue the genocide.
@ Mike D.
I read your 1.37 am post with great interest. You may have responded to my previous comment in the interim but who could know?
David Stahel is hardly a historian of emeritus status. He teaches at the University of New South Wales in New Zealand. He attended the utterly obscure University of Monash in Victoria, Australia. If it’s academic credentialism that you favour, then Dr. Stahel is less than impressive, globally.
For my part, though,I wouldn’t put too much heed to the relative prestige of educational institutes in an assessment of his ideas, although you seem to, if I may say. It would be a logical fallacy to diminish his work because he lectures at a lesser institute but equally it is a logical fallacy to suppose that bearing the titular PhD brings objective authority to his scholarship.
It surely cannot be lost to you that the world of academia is riven with croneyism and corruption? There is endemic mediocrity in higher education these days. Dispensing graduate degrees is, after all, a business. Academy has a taste for money. Post-graduate courses are highly lucrative, so are widely disbursed.
What I know of Dr. Stahel – I haven’t read his books – is that he pursues the crooked narrative of jewish oppression in the midst of German ruthlessness. Of course, he would do, given that his name is David Stahel…
I personally wouldn’t dispute that Hitler’s hubris and bouts of illness provoked resentments among many of his generals and precipitated misjudgements whereby disastrous defeats ensued.
You mention Heinz Guderian, who I believe was Germany’s most competent and resourceful general during WW II. If Hitler had listened to him, the British army would have been rendered combat incapable at Dunkirk and Britain would have had to broker for peace.
More than anything, Adolf Hitler was a man of his time. His sentiments and beliefs were not rarified. He definitely stood within a recognizable European tradition. He was not unique, although he had exceptional qualities of leadership. Even at his most unforgiveable – his sanction of the peace-time Euthenasia programme – Adolf Hitler cannot be said to be very much distinctive in his views from a vast swathe of European opinion at the time. Churchill favoured eugenic science, for example.
The desire for a revised (and more sympathetic) modelling of Adolf Hitler, on my part, is a matter of favouring the truth over propagandism, of liberating Germans of the generationally specious hatred, levied upon them by jewish liars.
I note and accept your critique of Hitler’s wavering military competence.
If I remember correctly, Adolf Hitler was 5’9″ tall, didn’t suffer from dwarfism and was not a hunchback. Neither would I personally describe him as “degenerate” but that’s a subjective matter.
However, it really doesn’t bring any weight to an argument, you know, to indulge in clichéd caricature.
@andyay
Points well taken, but some of the facts you outline in your argument can be compellingly argued against, and even disproved; e.g. that Barbarossa was a pre-emptive measure. The corollary to that claim is your last one about the USSR, back in the early 40’s, planning to occupy “all of Western mainland Europe”. I don’t know what your sources are, but in 1940, after years of purging of the top military brass by Stalin, the USSR was in no way, shape, or form able to occupy anyone. It’s military was devastated by the 1937-39 purges, and was in utter disarray.
But I get the general gist and tenor of your post.
Mike D,
“Points well taken, but some of the facts you outline in your argument can be compellingly argued against, and even disproved; e.g. that Barbarossa was a pre-emptive measure.”
Stalin, very much planned to attack Germany and the rest of Europe before Barbarossa.
If you have studied history you will also know that General Patton, murdered by his own people, spoke out that they had gone to war with the wrong nation, Germany and that they should all unite, now and strike at Russia.
Patton’s Warning
@ White Elephant
The first of your links, is truly superb. Thank you. (I’d read the second article already but it’s still very much worthwhile.)
I didn’t know that you could write a permalink in that style and it still be functional.
andyay,
I’m glad I could help.
CODOH (Campaign on Honest Debate on the Holocaust) is an excellent site.
I also highly recommend Wintersonnenwende which gives the German side of WW2. This I trust far more than the allied story.
As for the permalinks, well it’s basic HTML. I can’t write it down for you, but here’s the link.