Guardian Staff and Agencies – The Guardian Feb 10, 2022
US president Joe Biden has warned that “things could go crazy quickly” in Ukraine and again urged American citizens to leave immediately, as the UK’s defence secretary headed to Moscow in the latest round of diplomacy.
“American citizens should leave, should leave now,” Biden said in an interview with NBC News. “We’re dealing with one of the largest armies in the world. This is a very different situation and things could go crazy quickly.”
On Friday, UK defence secretary Ben Wallace joins foreign secretary Liz Truss in Moscow after she held frosty talks with her Russian counterpart, Sergei Lavrov. Lavrov said the meeting was like a conversation of “the mute with the deaf”. Wallace will reportedly tell Sergei Shoigu, the Russian defence minister, that invading Ukraine would be a “lose-lose” situation.
The diplomatic manoeuvring came as Russia-Ukraine relations soured further. On Thursday Ukraine’s foreign ministry accused Moscow of showing a “blatant disregard for the rules and principles of international law” by planning missile tests in the Black Sea that Kyiv says will make shipping navigation impossible there and in the Sea of Azov. Russia has just started 10 days of drills with Belarusian forces.
In Berlin on Thursday night, Russia and Ukraine said they had failed to reach any breakthrough in a day of related talks with French and German officials aimed at ending an eight-year separatist conflict in eastern Ukraine.
Ukrainian service personnel unpack US supplied Javelin anti-tank missiles. Click to enlarge
It had not been possible to “overcome” Russia and Ukraine’s different interpretations of the 2015 Minsk agreement aimed at ending fighting between pro-Russian separatists and Ukrainian government forces, said Russian envoy Dmitry Kozak.
His Ukrainian counterpart, Andriy Yermak, said both sides agreed to keep talking. “I hope that we will meet again very soon and continue these negotiations. Everyone is determined to achieve a result,” he said. The conflict in the breakaway Donetsk and Luhansk regions, known together as the Donbas, simmers despite a notional ceasefire.
Military analysts estimate Moscow has massed more than 135,000 troops on the borders of Ukraine, both in Russia and in Belarus – and some now believe nearly all the necessary elements are in place if Putin wanted to attack.
In his interview, Biden reiterated that under no circumstances would he send US troops to Ukraine, even to rescue Americans in case of a Russian invasion. “That’s a world war. When Americans and Russians start shooting one another, we’re in a very different world,” he said.
“What I’m hoping is that if [Russian president Vladimir Putin] is foolish enough to go in, he’s smart enough not to in fact do anything that would negatively impact American citizens.”
During a visit to Nato’s headquarters on Thursday, Boris Johnson said the Ukraine crisis had entered “the most dangerous moment” as Russian forces continued their military buildup on the borders of its southern neighbour.
The UK prime minister said “our intelligence remains grim” but told reporters in Brussels that he didn’t think a decision has yet been taken by Putin to order an invasion.
“This is probably the most dangerous moment. I would say that in the course of the next few days, in what is the biggest security crisis that Europe has faced for decades, we’ve got to get it right,” Johnson said.
But he made it clear that Britain could not intervene militarily if Ukraine was attacked. Speaking later at a military base in Warsaw, he said: “The UK has been supplying some defensive weaponry in the form of anti-tank missiles, we have been training Ukrainian troops. That is as far as we can go at the moment.”
The conclusion of Johnson’s whirlwind European trip took place at Warsaw’s presidential palace, where he was greeted by Polish president Andrzej Duda.
They exchanged warm words, with the prime minister repeating that Britain stands “shoulder to shoulder” with Poland and its eastern Nato allies.
The UK has put 1,000 troops on standby in case of a humanitarian crisis in the east if the current Russian military buildup leads to war, and 350 Royal Marines arrived in Poland to coincide with Johnson’s visit.
With Agence France-Presse, Press Association and Reuters
How can the west go to war?? USA $11 trillian in debt, UK £2 trillian Debt, EU Bankrupt!! Is their plan top rob their citizens bank accounts to fight a war?? Crikey !! Dis I just say that!!
America is So hungry for a war, that they will sacrifice their own men and say Russia done it, the good old play book. But Russia Isn’t vietnam, or Iraq, or Lybia or Afghanistan.
The Biden Administration need to be taken out and a normal Government put in its place. A Peace treaty signed between Russia & USA.
China will not allow America to attack Russia.
Would crazy Biden go to such lengths just to cover-up his and his son’s and colleagues’ malfeasansce and cronyism in Ukraine ?
I bet you they will try.
@Colin Mcnally You forget that you need warriors to fight a war whereas virtually ALL the alliance’s warrior have ALREADY been chemically-castrated with Convid-1984 mentally dis-armed with the LGBTQ doctrine.
> “This is probably the most dangerous moment. I would say that in the course of the next few days, in what is the biggest security crisis that Europe has faced for decades, we’ve got to get it right,” Johnson said.
And obviously a fat queer is the best ‘man’ for the job.
> They exchanged warm words, with the prime minister repeating that Britain stands “shoulder to shoulder” with Poland and its eastern nato allies.
Well, I’m ‘british’ and I don’t stand ‘shoulder to shoulder’ with them. What a bunch of w**kers they all are. Never mind. “There’s nothing we can do.”
*US president Joe Biden has warned that “things could go crazy quickly” in Ukraine”.
How nice to know Joe. I’ve got news for you, it could go ‘crazy quickly’ in the West.
Not only has Russia been bullied over the last 20yrs, gaslighted, & mocked by the recent phoney efforts by Macron and various UK slimeballs. The Russians have had enough.
In the back of my mind, being an optimist, I hope we don’t go nuclear, but the truth is we are ever so close.
Yesterday Boris made a huge slip, maybe he made a deliberate slip up. Boris said: “I don’t Putin has decided to invade Ukraine yet.” IMHO, Boris is lying, Boris wants everyone to believe that when Russia moves, he and the rest of the Western shower of evil can say, ‘oh my God, we never thought Putin would be thay stupid.’
Russia is clise to the end of its patience. Boris also, like Biden, keeps the sheeple thinking this is all about inside Ukraine, when the facts point to a much wider war where nukes could be used.
Imagine you are going to have a meal at the local community hall. The food is laid out and you are all mingling and about to eat, but some get together and say you (Russia) can’t sit at the table with them to eat because of XYZ. This mingling period has lasted 20yrs and after Russia made countless efforts to claim their rightful seat at the table, the penny drops that there’s absulutly no way Russia is ever going to be accepted. The Russians might as well be excited to Vulcan. This is where we are now. The Russians have a simple choice. Accept their fate, or destroy the buffet and the table and chairs.
As I said yesterday. The Russians will have gamed all the options, including the option where they give ground and accept NATO on their borders, but the gaming says the West will still persecute Russia, no matter what the Russians do, this side of handing the keys to the City crime cartels.
Biden, Boris, Wallace, Martin, & Truss are making things worse, & in my opinion, doing it deliberately.
All it needs to resolve this and avoid a potential NUCLEAR CONFLICT is for the US/NATO to honour it’s promise made repeatedly by James Baker during the German reunification talks that ” NATO will not move 1″ towards the East”
Instead US/NATO has done that very thing until it is now a direct threat to Russia, especially if Ukraine becomes a member and is armed with missiles. Those missiles notionally defensive, can be unobtrusively rearmed with NUCLEAR warheads in under an hour, and used in a “First Strike” against Russia, who would have 5 minutes before Moscow was hit, and 7 minutes before their defenses were taken out. Thus, they would effectively be DEFENSELESS!
Ukraine, whose democratically elected government was taken over by a coup propagated by the West in 2014, organized at a cost of $5 billion by Victoria Newland, and Geoffrey Pyatt, as she stated on video, is anti Russian, pro Nazi in dealing with ethnic Russians. The Azov Battalion sports Nazi insignia and practices. Many officials follow the Ukrainian Nazi Bandera’s philosophy.
Their parliament in Kiev has rejected the Minsk 1& 2 agreements to settle the disputed Donbas Oblasts, and instead decided to attack them and Crimea. It has built an army with the help of the US and UK, who have, and are still supplying arms and training. This army grew to 100,000 troops, and Russia responded to the threat by putting troops on their borders. This action in response to NATO/US/UK aggression has been reported by western media as “RUSSIAN aggression”.
What Russia wants is MUTUAL respect and security, and friendly, not hostile neighbors, it set out 2 treaties to achieve this; both have been rejected, one by NATO, the other by the US. Serious attempts by Russia to come to an agreement have been met with delays, accusations, denials, and threats.
We now have a situation where Russia is cornered and threatened, and has said “we are left with a Military/ Military technical response”. That means WAR!
Colin Mcnally: during the 1930s Great Depression, how did US and UK corporations afford to put so much money into the Nazi war machine?
It was WW2 that got the US out of the Great Depression.
I
DON’T
UNDERSTAND
PUTIN.
If I have said it once, I said it a hundred times:
all he has to do is state clearly and for the record that in any serious shooting war, Russia will obliterate Israel on the first day as well as globally target the areas of high warmonger concentration.
I guarantee that there will be no war if he shines the bright light on the venomous cockroaches.
Gutle Schnapper, wife of Mayer Amschel Rothschild, was once quoted as saying– �If my sons did not want war, there would be none� (did something change since then?)
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1219126140.php
Biden went crazy quickly. America should be quarantined until it can quit the gambling, greed, porn, violence, drugs, alcohol, shopping, war, satanism, CRT, horror, fiction and all the churches that preside over this.
There are more pro-Russians in the Donbas than there were anti-Gadaffi or anti-Saddam. Shouldn’t the Americans be helping Russia invade?
Colin…
…you MISS the point.
The fact that the US/UK Axis Of ZOG is bankrupt is the REASON it WANTS a WAR… so it can “wipe the slate clean”… and wipe out as many of its OWN “useless eaters” as possible!
The US debt just went over $30 TRILLION. That does not include unfunded liabilities. The only way out of this is for the SATANISTS in charge of the US govt to go to war. Problem is that the US continent will not escape with no damage as it did in WWI and WWII.
Britain is completely controlled by the US and will be sacrificed in any hot war.
Tory politicians are both stupid (they believe that ‘America the Great’ will ensure that the unthinkable doesn’t happen), and so corrupt that they will do and say anything on demand.
At the top of the British government is a a chancer with delusions of grandeur. Johnson is leading the British people into the abyss, but they are still so taken up with their own delusions (‘Spitfires’, Dunkirk’ ‘Spirit of the Blitz’), that they don’t see it.
Déjà vu all over again.
– Hitler was tricked into invading Poland by the UK (Britain). That was a pretext for starting WWII, the Holocaust scare, drive enough jews into Palestine, and eventually create Israel (the capital of the NOW).
– Saddam Husain was tricked into invading Kuwait, by the US. That was used as a pretext by the US and the UK to invade Iraq, during Bush Senior.
Now the heads of UK and the US (the NWO minions) are trying the same trick with Putin and Russia. A world war is needed by the globalists to cover up the now exposed real agenda behind the COVID 1984 plandemic agenda, and at the same time a achieve the same goal of global depopulation that the plandemic failed to achieve.
Déjà vu all over again.
– Hitler was tricked into invading Poland by the UK (Britain). That was a pretext for starting WWII, the Holocaust scare, drive enough jews into Palestine, and eventually create Israel (the capital of the NWO).
– Saddam Husain was tricked into invading Kuwait, by the US. That was used as a pretext by the US and the UK to invade Iraq, during Bush Senior.
Now the heads of UK and the US (the NWO minions) are trying the same trick with Putin and Russia. A world war is needed by the globalists to cover up the now exposed real agenda behind the COVID 1984 plandemic agenda, and at the same time a achieve the same goal of global depopulation that the plandemic failed to achieve.
Americans do not give a hoot about U K Rain Its all fabricated by design
> USA $11 trillian in debt
11 trillion? It was 30 trillian last I heard.
> UK £2 trillian Debt
That don’t matter, because we’re better than anyone else. Look at the royal family — a lovely collection of people that absolutely everyone can’t help but admire.
> EU Bankrupt
That don’t matter neither, because they’re multicultural, and you can’t beat a place where everybody hates everybody else.
Ned: Hitler wasn’t tricked, he put in a position by Britain which forced him into Poland. When you tell your potential adversary that if they invade, we will be at war, you are basically forcing them to do just that. Same thing is being done to Putin. If he backs down, he will look weak.
There are two major US bases close to me, one about ten miles west and the other about fifteen miles south west. So if war goes nuclear I’ve probably only got a few seconds longer than they have.
Risks are risks and life is full of them but I still ain’t taking the jab.
i would like better to live on a southern
tropical island (probably where ratschild
mafia enjoys) than again bombs flying
over my head .
they should handle their wars on southern
globe and not always here in north !
MANICOMEJACKES !
Biden is an idiot! And his entourage too!
Nuclear weapons are fake. Nukes are Cold War instigated fear porn. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were firebombed Uniform damage pattern at Hiroshima and Nagasaki aftermath identical to that of Tokyo and German cites
which were acknowledged as firebombings. Nuke tests have clear evidence of
of fakery . Trillions stolen building fake nukes and infrastructure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXew976n0wc&t=3s
As the picture above show ? “Ukrainian service personnel unpack US supplied Javelin anti-tank missiles”
Question , Who’s paying for those missiles ?? Is it Hunter with the money he get by selling his artistic paintings ?? Is it Fauci with the money he get from selling his lethal injections ??
Wonder who’s paying for it ??
Could be the stupid goyim, as usually ?
BTW I hope, that if the Russian invade Ukraine, I hope that they will show their Vaccine passport at the border ??
It is all BS even, the debt bubble. The power moguls have to trick us into believing in the “necessity” of a one-world government and a one-world currency controlled by the same Few who control our central banks, the largest corporations in the world, and all of our governments.
Hence:
– the 1992 Agenda 21 plans for the 21st century;
– the 1999-2000 relaxing of banking lending regulations in the West to deliberately create the clearly foreseeable serious sub-prime mortgage crisis and crash in 2008 from the housing loans with insufficient security;
– the 2001 planned 9/11 false flag to make way for the electronic surveillance sate to control us, and as a pretext for the subjugation of sovereign Muslim states not on the globalist bandwagon;
– the false flag WMD allegations and destruction of Iraq, which was another dissident Muslim nation sewing its own oats;
– the fake 2009 H1N1 flu pandemic as a test for the future planned Coronavirus pandemic as revealed the Rand Corporation and the Rockefeller Foundation documents, all in order to impose the necessary control measures to usher in the globalist goals set out in UN Agenda 21;
– the 2015 UN Agenda 2030 setting our the first 17 draconian goals of UN Agenda 2, all to be attained with clock-like precision by 2030, and which necessitate the planned and very totalitarian New World Order government to be run by the same Few behind the Agendas and the UN;
– the fake demonizing of Russia by the US from 2015 to the present and efforts using the ME theatre and the Ukraine to heighten tensions of the major powers as a pretext for the globalist Agenda 21 plans “necessitating” a global government “for peace”;
– the continued improvident lending practices and government expenditures by all of our nations leading to the clearly foreseeable 2019 liquidity crisis, allegedly “necessitating” massive QE injections to commercial banks, major corporations and to our governments, making all major institutions including our governments far more DEPENDENT on the same Few oligarchs, top corporations, and banking dynasties backing Agenda 21;
– the creation of Al-Qaeda and then ISIS to function as terrorists and insurgents mainly in the ME theatre for national destabilizations and takeovers of Muslim states, and to maintain the Agenda 21 plans for a world government with teeth for peace, and the taking control of and allegedly holding “in trust” for the world non-renewable natural resources of sovereign nations;
– the planned 2019 economic crash of the repo market from all of the planned overspending and unsecured bankster debt instruments;
– the US Fed in early 2020 before there was a pandemic declaring allocating over $6 trillion in QE;
– the 2020 planned Coronavirus pandemic acting as a pretext to usher in the planned totalitarian controls in March 2020;
– the US Fed after the pandemic restrictions were declared in March 2020, declaring that the over $6 trillion earlier allocated was to cover governments and corporations for the pandemic losses from the pandemic lockdowns and restrictions, the effect of which as to make the governments and most of the people of our nations DEPENDENT on IMF and World Bank handouts and COMPLIANT with the LOCKSTEP plans and restrictions;
– the forced and completely unnecessary forced-vaccination programs enabling our governments on the pretext of “pandemic emergency conditions” to suspend all basic rights even to know the substances in the vaccine vials, and to set the precedent for governments to inoculate their people with any substance they deem useful for any thing they deemed as “emergency conditions”;
-the ramping of hostilities between the US powers and Russia allegedly threatening WWIII, no doubt with the principal players of the old cold war protection racket scam to play it again Uncle Sam and draw all nations into NYC for and empowered world government, right on schedule with the UN agendas.
lobro,
I agree. In 1981 the puppet regime in Turkey started massing troops against the Syrian northern borders, with the intent to march on the city of Hamah to protect the uprising by militants from the Moslem Brotherhood, (backed, secretly, by the globalists). The late president Assad ordered his troops to start massing on the southern Syrian borders, against the Israeli border. He then sent a backdoor message to President Ronald Reagan informing him of the events. That was enough to stop the Turks from advancing against Syria.
> He then sent a backdoor message to President Ronald Reagan informing him of the events.
And he told you so that you could tell us?
I don’t give a rat’s ass about the borders of that corrupt shit-hole that is Ukraine, especially considering the southern border of the United States has been relentlessly sodomized and invaded by hordes of uneducated and unskilled mongrel scum, aided and abetted by the treasonous Jewnited States criminal cartel. That satanic sewer known as Washington DC can’t get torched and the political, bureaucratic, and media scum hanged soon enough.