Ukrainain snipers
Zach Dorfman – Yahoo News Jan 13, 2022
The CIA is overseeing a secret intensive training program in the U.S. for elite Ukrainian special operations forces and other intelligence personnel, according to five former intelligence and national security officials familiar with the initiative. The program, which started in 2015, is based at an undisclosed facility in the Southern U.S., according to some of those officials.
The CIA-trained forces could soon play a critical role on Ukraine’s eastern border, where Russian troops have massed in what many fear is preparation for an invasion. The U.S. and Russia started security talks earlier this week in Geneva but have failed thus far to reach any concrete agreement.
While the covert program, run by paramilitaries working for the CIA’s Ground Branch — now officially known as Ground Department — was established by the Obama administration after Russia’s invasion and annexation of Crimea in 2014, and expanded under the Trump administration, the Biden administration has further augmented it, said a former senior intelligence official in touch with colleagues in government.
By 2015, as part of this expanded anti-Russia effort, CIA Ground Branch paramilitaries also started traveling to the front in eastern Ukraine to advise their counterparts there, according to a half-dozen former officials.
The multiweek, U.S.-based CIA program has included training in firearms, camouflage techniques, land navigation, tactics like “cover and move,” intelligence and other areas, according to former officials.
How to characterize the program is a matter of dispute. The U.S. over three presidents has debated whether to provide military assistance to Ukraine, and how much, with discussions often focusing on whether that help is offensive or defensive in character.
U.S. officials deny that the CIA training program is, or was ever, offensively oriented. “The purpose of the training, and the training that was delivered, was to assist in the collection of intelligence,” said a current senior intelligence official.
But just what intelligence support entails, in the paramilitary context, can be ambiguous. And how this training will be applied by the Ukrainians may change rapidly with facts on the ground.
The forerunners of these Ukrainian neo-Nazis fought with the invading Nazis against Russian and Ukrainian partisans. Now they are being funded and equipped courtesy of the CIA. Click to enlarge
The program has involved “very specific training on skills that would enhance” the Ukrainians’ “ability to push back against the Russians,” said the former senior intelligence official.
The training, which has included “tactical stuff,” is “going to start looking pretty offensive if Russians invade Ukraine,” said the former official.
One person familiar with the program put it more bluntly. “The United States is training an insurgency,” said a former CIA official, adding that the program has taught the Ukrainians how “to kill Russians.”
The program, which does not appear to have ever been formally aimed at preparing for an insurgency, did include training that could be used for that purpose. Another former agency official described technical aspects of the program, like showing Ukrainians how to maintain secure communications behind enemy lines or in a “hostile intelligence environment” as potential “stay-behind force training.”
The current senior intelligence official strongly denied that the program was designed in any way “to assist in an insurgency.”
“Suggestions that we have trained an armed insurgency in Ukraine are simply false,” said Tammy Thorp, a CIA spokesperson.
Going back decades, the CIA has provided limited training to Ukrainian intelligence units to try and shore up an independent Kyiv and prevent Russian subversion, but cooperation “ramped up” after the Crimea invasion, said a former CIA executive.
The CIA paramilitaries in Ukraine have “a very small footprint,” said the former agency executive, and are helping train Ukrainian forces in “potential critical nodes the Russians may focus on” if Moscow seeks to push farther into the country.
Though the agency’s paramilitary resources have been otherwise stretched thin in Afghanistan and on other counterterrorism missions, the U.S.-based training program has been a “high priority” for the CIA since its Obama-era inception, said the former senior intelligence official.
The program did not require, or receive, a new presidential finding, which is used to authorize covert action, and has been run under previously existing authorities, according to former officials.
The Trump administration — partially at the urging of Congress — later expanded funding for the initiative, increasing the number of Ukrainian cohorts brought over yearly to the U.S., according to former officials.
Training forces that could take part in an insurgency is not the same as actively supporting an insurgency if one takes place following a Russian invasion. The Biden administration has reportedly assembled a task force to determine how the CIA and other U.S. agencies could support a Ukrainian insurgency, should Russia launch a large-scale incursion.
“If the Russians invade, those [graduates of the CIA programs] are going to be your militia, your insurgent leaders,” said the former senior intelligence official. “We’ve been training these guys now for eight years. They’re really good fighters. That’s where the agency’s program could have a serious impact.”
Over the years, the CIA training programs have been “very effective,” said the former CIA executive.
It has helped “turn the tide,” said the first former CIA official, who said he or she was briefed that “gains were being made on the battlefield” as a “direct result” of the program.
Both U.S. and Ukrainian officials believe that Ukrainian forces will not be able to withstand a large-scale Russian incursion, according to former U.S. officials. But representatives from both countries also believe that Russia won’t be able to hold on to new territory indefinitely because of stiff resistance from Ukrainian insurgents, according to former officials.
Working so closely with the Ukrainians has presented unique challenges, according to former officials. For years, U.S. officials have believed that, because of Russia’s web of spies within Ukraine’s intelligence services, the program has very likely been compromised by Moscow.
Senior Trump administration officials discussed worries about Russian penetration of the program with their Ukrainian counterparts, according to a former national security official. The Ukrainians, well aware of the issue, have tried to vet the U.S.-bound trainees to weed out moles, according to former officials.
Still, Trump-era National Security Council officials established a rule not to tell the Ukrainians anything they weren’t comfortable with the Russians subsequently learning about, recalled the former national security official.
A small number of trainees in the earlier U.S.-based cohorts were sent back to Ukraine for breaking security rules, like possessing unauthorized electronic devices, according to the first former CIA official.
CIA officials also believed their trainees were being targeted by the Russians once they returned to Ukraine. “Russians and traitorous Russian loyalists within the Ukrainian security services were seeking out graduates of those classes to assassinate,” said the former CIA official.
Russian penetration of Ukrainian intelligence has been a long-standing problem for the CIA, according to former intelligence officials. For decades, the agency has tried to work only with special select Ukrainian units — some created at the agency’s insistence — that have been isolated from the rest of the country’s intelligence services in order to prevent Russian compromise, according to former officials.
Even though the CIA assumes some Russian compromise when working with the Ukrainians, the agency still believes the training program has been, on balance, highly valuable, according to former officials.
If the Russians launch a new invasion, “there’s going to be people who make their life miserable,” said the former senior intelligence official. The CIA-trained paramilitaries “will organize the resistance” using the specialized training they’ve received.
“All that stuff that happened to us in Afghanistan,” said the former senior intelligence official, “they can expect to see that in spades with these guys.”
If it comes to open conflict, the Ukrainians will be blotted out in hours. Much of the population will openly support the Russians. Of those that don’t, most will remain neutral. awaiting events. Whole units will lay down their arms. Only a few CIA mercenaries, MI6 subversives and local fanatics will remain.
This is not going to be a Russian Vietnam. The idea that adjoining countries will be utilised to quietly feed terrorists into occupied Ukraine is a delusion. Poland would take the opportunity to attack Belarus. Egged on by the British, the Baltic states would attack Kaliningrad. A general European war would break out and disaster for the West would follow.
I doubt they are just Ukrainians, and I suspect this is going on in many locations. There’s plenty of ex military types who would love that fat retainer, and fight bonuses.
Interesting what Lavrov says about Russian kinship ties in Ukraine, but the reality is that most of the Ukraine combat forces will have ex Western soldiers fighting the Russians. This isn’t purely a Ukraine war. If Russia does invade Ukraine, they’ll be fighting NATO, because Ukraine military brass won’t be in control, & this is why when Russia attacks, this will be the most brutal war ever. I have to wonder if Western nations are ready for the return of thousands of dead mercenaries… can they hide the repatriation of their dead, probably.
CIA MOSTLY IN HISTORY WERE
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THEY ARE NOT YOUR BOYS
UKRAINE SOLDIER BOY :
THERE IS NO FREEDOM IN THE
WEST ! ONLY TREASON . do you
want that ?
America never lifted a finger against Satanist Jew Hollywood, so it is too late for them.
I find it fascinating that the same playbook for world war 2 is now being recycled, but this time (oh irony) the imbeciles-on-high have decided that the evil protaganist will be the Russians, it seems that after being the ‘allies’ jewish/zionist/finacialist battering ram and hammerer of the teutons and all round good to be in bed with tart in world war 2…
It is now the russkies turn to feel zions wrath for being notionaly vaguely ‘nationalist’ and vaguely notionalist ‘christian’…
Of course Putin plays both sides having stiffed the banksters just like Hitler did…
which as always will mean war and lots of money for its orchestrators as they rearrange the deck chairs and reformat the world into their zionist dictatorship..
I suggest all men of good will resist…just a tad…
Zach Foreman? Sounds like a member of the tribe. Never trust the Jews with the news.
Russia would roll over Ukraine like a fat guy devouring a plate of bacon. Every Ukrainian I have ever met has been a f*cking moron. Every single one. So the thought of “intelligence” training for them had to make me laugh.
Speaking of intelligence, the article had this turd, “’The purpose of the training, and the training that was delivered, was to assist in the collection of intelligence,’ said a current senior intelligence official.” That “current senior intelligence official” is obviously an imbecile and a dismal failure at their job, as intelligence is not collected; INFORMATION is collected, then verified for accuracy, collated with other bits of verified information, and analyzed for meaning. Then and only then can it be considered to be “intelligence”.
The last thing the CIA wants is Russia going into Venezuala and stabilizing the disstabilization of that nation by the CIA. Why? Oil. More oil than god, the most oil on the planet. Trillions of barrels, and Saudi Arabia oil is mostly gone, as the salt water injection wells are pushing out over 50% salt water to oil ratio. Oh Yeah baby, time to dump Saudi royals and send the Marines into Caracus where gasoline downtown is only 8 cents a gallon right now.
The CIA assassinated Hugo Chavez, this after he stood up like a man at the UN and told Israel to get the hell out of Palestine. No better way to piss off Jews than to say that, just ask Helen Thomas, she said next day she was fired, Hugo said and a few months later he is pushing daisies.
Make no mistake how Russia pissing off ZOG. It was Russia under Putim who killed the Greater Israel project in Syria. It is Russia stopping the CIA from seizing the world’s largest oil fields in Venezuela.
Do you think Blinken and Biden give a rat’s ass if 10,000 Ukrainians die in a prolonged war, if Russia is busy with that then ZOG Jewmerika can be busy with Iran and oil in South America. Just look at a map of Houston Texas in relation to Caracus. The Venezuela pipeline terminates on the south edge of the Gulf of Mexico, and the American pipelines start at Texas and Houston is the biggest oil port on the south border. There is just a short float for supertankers in calm warm waters.
Dick Cheney probably salivates and beats off when he sees this map:
https://www.stratfor.com/sites/default/files/styles/stratfor_full/public/main/images/Venezuela_oil_fields_0.jpg?itok=1JazvGy7
Caracus gasoline is being sold for 8-25 cents a gallon can be shipped to the stupid Amerikans who drive gas guzzler trucks and sold for over $4 a gallon. That is near infinite profit.
CNN Jewess Rachel Madcow – “Russia is bad, Russia is bad, Russia is bad, Vee must stop Russia” pounding her fists on the podium.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/venezuela-gasoline-pipeline-damaged-explosion-pdvsa-blames-sabotage-2022-01-12/
Look here their are Jews and Jews thats for every etnic the same, normal people dont want war, only the psychopats, but its tru we are waiting time and time again, to stop this devils, its time now, I hope Putin wil do it very quik an neatly, with the help of intelligent europeans !
why would the russians invade ? they can sit on the border and send in the missiles clear a strip 5k,s wide all along the border, send a nuke into the “city” of london, if the US retaliate nukes on washingtown DC
Pentagram etc Putin needs to show the gloves are off
Russia’s “Invasion” of Crimea Zach??? You proved yourself a lying scumbag right there Zach.
I really really wanna see them go at it
Folks were just cracking on the Hal Turner article about Lavrov, but if you want propaganda, you can’t outdo the above from yahoo. What horseshit.
R.C.
African religion, Judaism, difficult to swallow. How did it get into the hands of the Europeans.
Use critical thinking. Is anyone irradiated yet. We are taught all lies and more lies and more lies and more lies. Get it yet. For all the White Supremacist called racist, wake up and learn the TRUTHS and LOVE, very important LOVE.
Mystic and Yogi
Do US taxpayers realize that the criminal CIA is training Bandera Nazis??
The rest of the world is no longer stupid, it is time to cut the head off the snake. No more proxy wars on far away soils. Kill the whole snake and stop the evil.
Kill the snake and stop the trade embargoes (millions starving)
Kill the snake and stop military spending (millions starving)
Kill the snake to stop wars for profit (millions suffering)
Kill the snake and stop government corruption.
Just kill the snake.