Introduction – Sept 15, 2025
We aren’t buying the line that Tyler Robinson shot Charlie Kirk. For a start, allegations that he was responsible for shooting Kirk are based on claims Robinson made in an online forum, and he may have been joking.
That’s hardly conclusive evidence.
No, what really makes us doubt media claims that Robinson shot Charlie Kirk is that whoever did so must have been a trained marksman.
The distance between the alleged gunman’s firing position and Charlie Kirk was 130 meters. To successfully kill someone at that range and kill them with one shot takes the skill of a marksman, which requires some training.
Tyler Robinson did NOT have any military training or sniper training. We therefore suspect that someone else, a highly trained sniper, pulled the trigger. Robinson is just the fall guy. Ed.
Utah governor says alleged Kirk shooter not cooperating with authorities
Kendall Wright and Quinn Scanlan – ABC News Sept 14, 2025
Gov. Spencer Cox, R-Utah, said Sunday that the suspect in the shooting that killed conservative activist Charlie Kirk is not cooperating with authorities.
“He has not confessed to, to authorities. He is, he is, he is not cooperating, but, but, but all the people around him are cooperating. And I think that’s, that’s, that’s very important,” Cox told ABC News’ “This Week” co-anchor Martha Raddatz.
Authorities identified Kirk’s alleged shooter as 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, who now remains in custody. Charges are expected to be formally filed on Tuesday, Cox said.
Cox was also asked about a Sunday New York Times report that alleged Robinson had communicated with others on Discord after the shooting. The Times reported Robinson had made jokes about being the alleged gunman.
“All we can confirm is that those conversations definitely were happening, and they did not believe it was actually him. It was, it was all joking until, until he, you know, until he admitted that it actually was him,” he said.
Authorities are reviewing a group chat between several people joking about how the shooter looked like Robinson, multiple law enforcement sources told ABC News.
The messages were exchanged on Discord in the hours after the shooting, according to sources who told ABC News that one of the participants in the chat is believed to be Robinson, who allegedly made a comment in the chat about the killer being his “doppelganger.”
In a statement to ABC News on Friday, a Discord spokesperson said, “[W]e identified a Discord account associated with the suspect but have found no evidence that the suspect planned this incident or promoted violence on Discord. The messages referenced in recent reporting about planning details do not appear to be Discord messages. These were communications between the suspect’s roommate and a friend after the shooting, where the roommate was recounting the contents of a note the suspect had left elsewhere.”
The Utah governor, who has been the public face of the investigation, also addressed reports Saturday that the suspect’s roommate is transitioning from male to female.
Cox previously told the Wall Street Journal that Robinson was “deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology.” Asked if investigators have uncovered evidence to show that, Cox replied, “Well, so far that — that has come from his acquaintance and his family members. That’s where that initial information has come from. Certainly, there will be much more information that is released in the charging documents as they’re bringing all of that together.”
MOSSAD AND EPSTEIN BLACKMAIL
https://gmmuk.com/the-coleman-experience-the-british-establishment-is-controlled-by-israels-mossad/
Such lies by the corrupted mass media and governments. The assassin ( s) are the same cult that murdered JFK, carried out 9/11 among other assassinations and now Charlie Kirk. The USA and EU and that includes Britain are run by organized criminals for decades upon decades, that is the babylonian banksters and associates.
Occasionally some truth slips out of the hellpit that now is Britain.
Kier Starmer was put in as a HUmpty-Dumpty figure, to instigate extremist policies then to be knocked down
and something a little less extreme put in.
After the Tony Blair episode, experts said he has made the labour party unelectable for 50 years, but the Tories were equally useless
bringing back Labour.
The two card trick is one of the Rothschild favourites,
they give you labour tory labour tory labour tory
in the USA rothschild gives you Democrat republican democrat republican etc
It even works with religion, Catholic or Protestant
or Sunni or Shia, but in the UK the game is up
People are rejecting the Rothschild parties
as they are both just one, a uniparty.
and they want change, but change.
SO WHAT ?
WAS HE SHOT FROM BEHIND THROUGH NECK
OR FROM FRONT THROUGH THE THROAT ?
A CIA-Mossad-Masonic hit with the required MKUltra patsy, similar to Oswald & Sirhan. As I said before, the shooter was likely close to Kirk, & the ‘shooter on the roof’ story is simply disinfo to misdirect people from the real killer.
Also if you compare the mug shot of the supposed assassin (Robinson) with the pics of this guy in sunglasses/hat it doesn’t look like the same character. For instance, in the mug shot, Robinson has a full lower lip, while the sunglass/hat guy has no visible lower lip.
Its possible they’ve framed an innocent white man with the crime.
Notice the symbol on the hat of the supposed Kirk assassin. I can’t really make it out much, due to the poor graphic quality of the pic, but it sort of resembles an SS death’s head symbol. Of course, it might be something else, but has anyone determined what the symbol on the hat is?
Yes well the yankees are famous for their “fall-guys”.
In other news:The idiot Nico x ( in disguise of course ) is still looking for attention:
“janice sleet on September 14, 2025 at 1:11 pm
‘Larry Johnson & Col. Wilkerson’…lol
Rixon still pushing these two CIA-KGB assrags on us.
I’d rather see Nico X with a columnist post on here than these zwog agents.”
We’d rather you’sd just go away ‘nico’. You sound deranged !
Then we have Simon telling it as it is:
“Simon Smith on September 14, 2025 at 9:56 pm
I think you are right Markie.
And Mike D is putting in some serious overtime from his Tel Aviv redoubt…”
Yes Simon ‘Mike D’ is a kike. “Under every rock” – as a great man once said…
Shooting a sitting person from that distance is quite achievable by any experienced deer or big game hunter. No outside the realm of possibility at all.
The Kremlin psychic claims Putin’s forces ‘will win this year’ but issues ominous warning
Story by Rory Gannon • A psychic looking into the Russian-Ukrainian war has given her thoughts on who will come out on top. While she made her prediction on which side will ultimately win the war, she gave a terrifying premonition that would leave families shuddering.
Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine is grinding on into its third year, as Russian missiles continue to rain down on Ukrainian cities. However, with Russian drones now entering NATO territory in Poland, the world is braced for World War 3 to begin any time now.
Winston Churchill based his war on Germany on the advice of astrologers and psychics
and every US administration going back to Roosevelt has used them
The kremlin psychic said weeks ago the jews will kill him before christmas
Don’t be surprised if he commits ‘suicide’ in jail
Poor Charlie Kirk. My condolences to his wife and children and all among his family who survived him.
There’s been a lot of hysteria on line about this tragedy, that would have you believe that Kirk was either a saint or a demon. He was neither, of course. He was a flawed man, just like me or you but he was certainly learning.
Andrew Anglin, of the Daily Stormer, has been especially scurrilous toward the legacy of the departed Kirk. Anglin has no conscience.
Everyone needs to pause and draw a breath. We don’t know enough quite yet. Though the circumstances are highly suggestive.
As much as I respect Markie, I can’t see that this murder was staged, in as much as I believe that Kirk is surely dead. That it was phantasmagoria, a grand guignol theatrical turn, I don’t doubt.
Yet, I don’t expect to see Kirk alongside Epstein and Maxwell on sun beds at the swimming pool of a luxury condominium in Tel Aviv any time soon.
Mormons on prime Israeli real estate? It would be interesting.
There are lots of suspect actors here; including the Latter Day Saints, Chabad Lubavich, the CIA, Transifa, Blofeld and Dick Dastardly.
Has someone a link toward a photograph of the crime scene with the “fait accompli”, that is, the dead corpse in situ, freshly killed?
I couldn’t find this, and the waters are muddy because of so many sources crying fake.
Bullshit to the “Trained Marksman”, “Military Sniper” crap!! Any self-respecting deer hunter could’ve made that shot! Anyone who studied ballistic tables and sighted the rifle in could’ve easily made the shot. The shooter showed some inexperience by not aiming a little low to compensate for a downward shot, which would hit high, which is what the shot did if he aimed at the chest. The shot was slightly high & to the left but was still lethal.
Funny when people who know nothing about shooting opine on what a hard shot it was! It was a measly 200 yards! I could make that shot with open sights – no scope! It was a .30-06!
@ Tony O’Neill
I really like your “comment of the week” feature. Please, keep on keeping on. It really works. Slainte Mhathe.
never trust anyone who is anti Nico X–they’re either bible nuts, jesus freaks, commies, putintards, cass sunstein internet agents or deranged envious assrags…whichever one they are, they’re enemies of white liberation.
If the kid is a patsy why complicate it and involve his father, the church minister ? anything could be plausible I suppose. Seen a lot of people saying the shot was not that hard to make, who knows ?.. Charlie had been asking questions about Israel lately, asking uncomfortable questions. Even though I dislike them, something just seems a bit off ( unusually) with the view it was them, too convenient. He was also making noises about the Epstein files, a lot of people would have been upset about that, none more so than Trump, would not put it past him to have ordered it. Maybe it was Trump and Benny Netenyahoo who both decide Charlie could best serve them by being taken out. Things might become clearer in time, probably not though.
andy
Anglin is a crypto commie pretending to be a ‘white nationalist’ …10 to 1 its a cia kgb operative. Same thing with Fuentes. You’ll notice all these so called ‘pro white’ internet characters are all putintards.
notice these micks stick together
One thing is clear: there are 2 sides- 1. talmudic commies 2. The Camp of the Saints.
@ andyay
Respect your perspective. We have zero proof that Kirk is dead other than a Hollywood style production with FX blood squibs and/or CGI as well as numerous circumstantial anomalies present, that have become routine surrounding these ‘events’. Referring to my rule of thumb reiterated numerous times, regarding false flag mass shooting hoaxes — if ZOG political agenda can be expedited through subterfuge/simulation, why risk the complications of real shootings with real associated victims and families?
Same applies here. Kirk is a controlled op stooge and mouthpiece dancing across the stage for years in MSM and online. He’s obviously part of the ZOG disinfo/agitprop apparatus, politically connected, well off financially and likely a crypto. Makes much more sense to fake his assassination for political gain then to actually kill him. Not that they would not be willing to sacrifice one of their own to serve their agenda, but much safer and cleaner to fake it. Do I have absolute proof that he’s alive? No, but I also have no hard evidence he’s dead, unless I can see the corpse, and even then I wouldn’t know if it was a body double or Kirk posing as dead like Epstein on the stretcher leaving the prison.
First the ‘authorities’ picked up a professional crisis actor. Then they picked up someone else and let him go. Then they picked up Tyler Robinson. In the meantime the person who really did it is getting further and further away, never to be caught.
I think by now, Almighty God would be disgusted with America…
STOP with these articles. The whole thing was a sophisticated magician show.
Proof > his wife, her face showing zero signs of having been through a trauma, delivering a eulogy just 3 days later. This does NOT happen in real life.
For goodness sake people!
There are those who are convinced that Andrew Anglin’s output has been AI generated blarney for a year or more now. There’s no doubt that Anglin’s journalism has rapidly become all too obviously generic and insipid. A bit of a shame, really but it seems that the National Socialist stalwart, Anglin, has been upgraded.
Message to Anne.
Charlie Kirk is dead.
The fact that his wife didn’t appear to be emotionally engaged.
Oh boy…
Phyllis Costa nails it in her comment right out of the gate.
“No, what really makes us doubt media claims that Robinson shot Charlie Kirk is that…”…is that the media claims it. Anyone that trusts or believes anything (other than maybe a sporting match score) from the Jew controlled media should be f*cking institutionalized.
One good thing about American men who have served in the military. They know ballistics; they know the difference between entry wounds and exit wounds.
This manufactured fake assasination would not be possible without the participation of fellow actor the governor of Utah. He has more acting parts coming up. Maybe he will get the part for prez later if he can drag the media long enough.
Folks, please carefully read the following excerpt from the above comment, in what the kook and mentally ill “markie” claims:
“Do I have absolute proof that he’s alive? No, but I also have no hard evidence he’s dead, unless I can see the corpse, and even then I wouldn’t know if it was a body double or Kirk posing as dead like Epstein on the stretcher leaving the prison.”
Re-read this a few times. Now, should he be singled out and mocked? Yes, but he’s not alone. There are countless loons like this in the so-called “conspiracy” circles. Countless. But just consider what this freak is saying: “NO AMOUNT of evidence will ever convince me.” Let that sink in. This is called malignant nihilism and leads to what’s referred to as complete epistemic collapse. Is any proof provided for his lunatic claims? Of course not. So, his own evidence is done by fiat; i.e. assertion is evidence … while simultaneously claiming that no amount of objective evidence will ever persuade him. Let that sink in.
If this is not a serious mental illness, then I don’t know what is. Again, he’s just an archetype for many … I recall Nico X argued the exact same way, and for all we know, could very well be the same person … but doesn’t have to be as these types are common on such sites. Ultimately, such malignancy of cognition leads to complete collapse of any discourse.
The kid Tyler Robinson is the patsy. He says he didn’t do it and pleaded not guilty.
Tyler Robinson needs to get good lawyers and not walk in front of a Rubenstein.
The real shooter identified in this video, using a palm gun:
https://x.com/ValVenisEnt/status/1967450195739959551
Yup – Oswald, Sirhan now Robinson are being blamed – but the truth lies with the Likudniks that conducted all three – then 911 – these a’holes never give up. Time to arrest them and get the criminals in charge of Israel in GITMO.
@ markie
Well, yes but political assassinations can and do happen. Murdering your rival is as old as time itself.
If Charlie Kirk’s death cannot be proven or disproven and a death certificate won’t suffice, where does that leave us? There’s merit to your profiling but I ask myself, is it befitting to this particular case?
Your scenario would require the consent or coersion of the Kirk family.
Hiding Charlie’s ugly mug from public view forever, would be a tricky task, I would have thought.
Perhaps, he’ll disguise himself as a Capuchin monk and loiter about the cloister.
I saw someone in a chat claiming that neckshots is somewhat a signum of IDF. I don’t know if it’s true but only know they have done it before at least occasionally.
The father likely figured out that Tyler was the patsy and then convinced him not to joke about the resemblance but to turn himself in on the condition of guaranteeing his safety. That was we hear the actual condition of Tyler’s father by the way.
@ Mike D
“This is called malignant nihilism and leads to what’s referred to as complete epistemic collapse”
LMAO– Classic Satanic inversion.from Mike D, who’s never seen a logical fallacy that he didn’t like to employ. It’s decades of ZOG controlled govt., media, entertainment, edjewcation feeding the masses malignant nihilism i.e., Existential nihilism– Darwinian evolution, heliocentrism, and moral nihilism– greed, narcissism, materialism. BTW, all principles exalted and espoused in the Protocols of Zion.
Epistemic collapse will result if you don’t accept the propaganda? -Hilarious.
It’s ZOG created Orwellian matrix that led to epistemic decay, not the process of questioning the blatant lies. Public failure to recognize the ruse of this alleged assassination as well as other similar deceptions serve as proof, and also serve a testament to the stupidity, gullibility and/or denial of the public, who long ago lost the ability to distinguish between reality and media/govt. illusions thanks to ZOG indoctrination.
As I suggested in previous comment, you should spend more time debating half-wits on the Sean Hannity forum or CNN blog., because you’re not fooling anyone here with your act.
Probably fair to say, those who don’t believe Charlie Kirk is dead probably also don’t believe in God.
Unfortunately, most Christians who do believe in God, (well, they say they believe in God) believe the patsy is the killer…
It just happens to be the world we live in these days.
@ andyay
“Well, yes but political assassinations can and do happen. Murdering your rival is as old as time itself.”
Yes, they can and have happened in the past, but ZOG has more recently discovered, they can achieve the same political goals through simulation and sleight of hand, which is cleaner and more efficient. Your label of Charlie Kirtz as a rival is based on what? He IS [present tense-because he likely still alive] a performer on their Hegelian stage, like a circus clown juggling act. A controlled op stooge who served their agenda not a legitimate rival.
“a death certificate won’t suffice, where does that leave us?”
ZOG international Inc.just carried out the greatest psyop in history with Covid scamdemic and convinced the world to commit suicide by taking the J jab to protect them from a virus that didn’t exist. Is fabricating a death certificate an insurmountable task for those capable of deception on such a scale as Covid?
“Your scenario would require the consent or coercion of the Kirk family”
Same response as above. Not difficult at all. His wife wouldn’t need coercion, she’s in on it, a willing Masonic ally and participant.
“Hiding Charlie’s ugly mug from public view forever, would be a tricky task”
Again, not difficult whatsoever. Epstein is likely still alive , probably in Ziostan. The public saw him ‘dead’, carried out of prison on a stretcher. Kirsch could be in Ziostan or given a new identity, like witness protection program and living elsewhere. I’m sure Charlie boy and his skanky wife will be well compensated for their sacrifice in service of the agenda.
The interesting aspect of this, as reiterated numerous times in previous comments is that the perps want us to know as part of their ‘revelation of the method’ game. These obvious anomalies, clues, evidence are presented as part of occult ritual. If we ignore the evidence we are giving consent and ceding more power to them each time.
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There is zero evidence that Tyler Robinson is the assassin.
There is zero evidence of a rifle on the roof.
There is zero evidence that Charlie Kirk is dead.
There is zero evidence the rifle found in the woods was the weapon used.
There is no recovered bullet.
But there is a video of a guy shooting Kirk from a few feet away with a palm pistol:
https://www.unz.com/article/who-killed-charlie-kirk-the-case-against-israel/#comment-7303396
https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Yukon+Jack
@ Umbra
Exactly, there are local news stories- traffic report/ car wrecks, house fires, sports scores that can be easily verified, Other than that, all media claims/pronouncements should be considered suspect. Assume it’s a lie and work your way backward from that starting point, or better still, a reliable foundational imperative that I employ, is to take the media proclamation and believe the opposite.
@ andyay
Quote: “If Charlie Kirk’s death cannot be proven or disproven and a death certificate won’t suffice, where does that leave us?”
Precisely. Well said. As I alluded to in my comment above, nowhere good. If I tell you beforehand as we discuss Topic A or B: “Absolutely no evidence that you can bring forth for your position on Topic A or B will ever convince me that I am wrong.” Well, then what is left to discuss? This is not reason. It’s a nihilistic dogma.
(I don’t care for ‘markie’ one way or another; I single him out, but it’s the underlying ideology that I’m trying to expose.)
So he hasn’t confessed yet? Sounds like Martin Bryant. It took them a while to force a confession out of him, but then having a confession they could do away with a trial and all the pesky evidence that goes with it. No way he did it!
Mike D
LMAO– It’s completely out of the realm of possibility that a power structure that runs the world could order a Masonic stooge medical examiner to falsify a death certificate.
It also can be confirmed that the Arabs with boxcutters 9/11 fable is true because the 9/11 commission issued it’s report verifying it.
As stated previously, thanks for all the comic relief you provide for those commenting here.
@ markie
I don’t dismiss your arguments but at this time I favour a more prosaic explanation.
There are certainly very suspicious aspects to this conundrum; the presence of the crisis actor, George Zinn, for one. The video popularized by Jeff Rense, showing a muscular, military type fellow, immediately to the left of Kirk in the audience, who appears to discharge a round from a palm pistol, with evident recoil, is telling indeed. It would explain any putative eccentricity in the trajectory of Tyler Robinson’s bullet.The freemasonic ring on Charlie’s wife’s finger…etc.
If you prove to be correct, markie, I will gladly admit so.
@ Mike D
Don’t involve me in your tomfoolery., Mike. Why don’t you try to be less stridently acerbic, dear fellow.
You’ll only put everyone off you. Deep breath now…”Om”
@ andyay,
Sorry, pal. I don’t do fake and prissy Victorian era “civility” when I encounter garbage. “The Gaza Genocide is CGI” … “Oh, I respect your point of view, but I humbly disagree and think it’s real …”
No. That bogus “courtesy” and effeminacy has no place in a civilized world. When someone makes abhorrent claims, you call them out on it. I don’t do faggotry.
Another thing, pal: I don’t give a flying fk what you think of me, or how much I “put you off.”
@ markie,
The kook strikes again!
For the record: I love the mentally ill!
@ andyay
Good to have a reasonable exchange with you, unlike dealing with the mosquito Mike D buzzing around. We’ll see how it plays out, but in will likely remain in a perpetual state of multiple theories and conjecture leading in a thousand different directions in order for spooks to sow confusion and conflict among the public, just like JFK
Mike D, The Sean Hannity forum and CNN blog anxiously await your arrival. I’ll reach out to Wolf Blitzer and see if he wants to interview you.
@ Mike D
You rapscallion! You cad! You blithering nincompoop! You are churlish and vulgar, sir.
Will that do for an angry response? I need to practise my anger. I’ve heard that it feels like a tickle in the spleen.
@ andyay
Quote: “You are churlish and vulgar, sir.”
Better that than a lowly coward, like you … “sir”!