Hua Bin – Hua’s Substack May 12, 2025
The world just witnesses a shockingly one-sided air war between Pakistan and India last week. Pakistan air force, equipped with Chinese weapon systems, took down a large number of India air combat assets while suffering zero loss.
The air battle featured Chinese-made J-10C fighters, PL-15 air to air missiles, HQ-9 air defense system, and ZDK-03 AWACS. Reported India losses included 3 French-made Rafale fighters, 1 Russia-made Su-30, 1 MiG-29, and 1 Israel-made Heron UAV.
What makes the outcome so shocking is that the Rafale fighter, sold to India at $240 million each, is often lauded as the most advanced European fighter jet, didn’t manage to put up any fight in the confrontation with J-10C. The Mica and Meteor air-to-air missiles carried by Rafale were discovered intact/unfired in the wreckage.
J-10C, by no means a backward fighter, is considered as well past its prime in the Chinese air force whose more advanced fighters include J-20, J-35 (both 5th generation stealth fighters), J-16, J-15 (4.5th generation multirole fighters), let alone the 6th generation fighters (J-36 and J-50) that are being tested.
J-10C is mainly for exports these days. Pakistan has acquired them at $40 million per unit. A few Middle Eastern nations are also considering the jet, including Egypt. Typically Chinese military export is one or one and a half generation behind what the PLA equips itself.
In all fairness, Rafale would be a strong match against J-10C in a head-to-head dog fight. At $240 million, it is even for more expensive than F-35.
Then, how did the Indian air force suffer such a humiliating one-sided loss against a much smaller Pakistan air force?
The answer lies in the strength of the integrated Chinese weapon system used by Pakistan.
Rather than using a hodgepodge of weapons sourced from France, Russia, Israel, and the US, as is the case with India, Pakistan utilized a full suite of highly integrated and synchronised air combat systems from China that include –
- J-10C fighter jet – a 4th generation multirole lighter fighter with a KLJ-7A AESA radar whose detection range exceeds 300km. With gallium nitride technology, it can lock onto the Rafale’s RBE-2 gallium arsenide radar signature 60-100 km before the Rafale even detects it. In modern air war, who sees first fires first.
- PL-15 air to air missile – one of the deadliest beyond visual range air to air missile with strike range over 200km. The PL-15E, the export version, still has a strike range of 150km, significantly longer than the 80km range of the Mica or the 100km range of Meteor, the most advanced European air to air missile.
- HQ-9 air defense system – this older generation Chinese air defense system (the newer one is HQ-19 with much longer range) has a maximum range of 200 km up to an altitude of 30km. While it has a significant shorter effective range than the Russian S-400 system (400km range), it enjoys a seamless data link with the J-10C fighter and PL-15E missile that automatically handles both fighter and missile guidance in combat
- ZDK-03 AWACs – again this is an older Chinese early warning planes, two generations from PLA air force most advanced systems (KJ-3000 and KJ-700). It is tailor-made for the Pakistan air force by China. The AWAC features an Active Electronically Scanned Arrange (AESA) radar with 360-degree coverage, capable of detecting and tracking up to 100 aerial targets, including low-flying and stealth jets. Importantly, ZDK-03 features an integrated sensor and communications suite, including Missile Approach Warning Systems (MAWS) and can maintain data links with ground command centers and friendly aircraft for real-time battlefield coordination.
With Link 17, a two-way communication data link China has helped Pakistan develop, the HQ-9 air defense system passes the Indian Rafale fighter information to the J-10C fighter which fires the PL-15E air to air missile well beyond the range of Rafale’s own missiles. Then the ZDK-03 AWAC maintains the data link with the missile and guides it toward the target.
PLA’s internal data link systems, such as XS-3 and DTS-03, are far more sophisticated than Link 17 or Link 16, the NATO data link standard. They use a combination of Beidou satellite navigation/communication and AI-powered military-grade 5G system. Given their highly classified nature, the systems are under strict export ban.
The Rafales were shot down before they even had a chance to engage with the J-10Cs within the missile range.
The defeat suffered by the India air force is a result of its lack of an integrated air warfare system. Standalone weaponry, however advanced, cannot achieve air superiority without the integration of other air warfare systems and seamless data links in today’s informationalized combat environment. Of course, poor training and tactical planning are also contributing factors.
Pakistan, with its integrated Chinese-made air combat platforms, has achieved a decisive victory over India, whose patchwork collection of various weapon platforms prove both costly and ineffective.
When $240 million Rafale fighters are brought down by $40 million J-10Cs with $180,000 PL-15E missiles, the military world is experiencing its own DeepSeek moment.
I wrote in my essay A Watershed Hypersonic Breakthrough: China’s New Hypersonic Air-to-air Missile (https://huabinoliver.substack.com/p/a-watershed-hypersonic-technology) that China just fielded an ultra-long 1,000km hypersonic missile (which can cover that distance in 8 minutes at Mach 5), designed to neutralize the US F-22 and F-35 fighters and B-21 bomber.
The Pakistan India air combat, labelled as the largest air war in 50 years, is a testing ground for Chinese technologies. With military hardware one to two generations older than PLA’s own, Pakistan has handily beat Indian’s most advanced western weaponry.
The US and the west would be making a deadly mistake to underestimate the Chinese military in Western Pacific and challenge China in a kinetic war.
The cherry on top is that India, despite western media’s hype as a counterbalance to China, proves it is just noise and can barely serve as a speed bump.
Yvette Cooper refuses to take down webpage promising free home hospital and dental treatment, priority for jobs with £49 a week to asylum seekers
Story by Jonathan Walker • Home Secretary Yvette Cooper has rejected calls to take down an official government web page promising asylum seekers a home a job and £49.18 cash every week in the UK. She pledged to get immigration down a “record high of more than 900,000 under the last Conservative government” as she set out plans including revoking visas for foreign criminals and reforming citizenship rules by making migrants wait 10 years rather than five to apply for indefinite leave to remain. Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer announced the policies earlier in the day and Mrs Cooper then presented them to Parliament.
so what about our people ? we are sick of this racism
Absolute failure!’ Nigel Farage tears into Labour’s ‘smash the gangs’ plan in scathing Commons outburst, but the government are the gangs !!
VERDICT yette copper is a racist trollop
Breeding grounds for organised crime’: Reform UK MP Sarah Pochin slams mass immigration in blistering maiden speech
Story by Gabrielle Wilde • Reform UK MP Sarah Pochin delivered her maiden speech in the House of Commons today, just days after her historic victory in the Runcorn and Helsby by-election.
The new MP won her seat by a mere six votes in what she described as “the closest by-election result in parliamentary history.” I’m so proud to be here. I feel incredibly privileged to stand in this place,” Pochin told the chamber.
She addressed the House less than a week after her election, explaining: “It’s important to say England is a land under foreign occupation, traitorous politicians
of the Tory Labour Lib dem triumvirate, have imported in migrant scroungers since 1945 and now this must all stop “!
love my garden and i have built a relationship with the birds that come
( feathered variety unfortunately )
i only buy apples to put the cores out for my blackbirds.
i gota shock the other week and as i got out of the shower
i saw this ugly old guy who was a real fat bastard, i thought how did he get in here? then i realised it was me in the mirror, so i have cut out the custard donuts etc and am trying to lose a bit of weight before your visit and glastonbury festival
where every body is on show and very body conscious
lol
x
The weather’s been weirdly hot for the time of year and farmers are already having crop issues. We lost some plants with the “snap” heat. I hear reservoirs are already down to what they were after the 2022 drought and apparently, we may well have no rain until the end of the month. This is not normal for April/May. I wouldn’t be surprised if they offer geoengineered rain as the solution to forthcoming food and water shortages… watch this space!
starvation and fire are the main weapons of the Rothschld NWO
some one should shoot that bastard
the local paper ina long boring article says Kier Starmer has had his letter box sealed as people kept pissing through it
i thought what a great idea
does anyone know where carl jones lives ?
It would probably be pertinent to factor the quality of the pilots into this synopsis..
but then again wa yu bin is hardly impartial..he’s so partisan it’s likely he’s CiA…One of the biggest indicators is his reverence for Harvard Mao…but never a mention of who really put Red* China together..
* Red is a term they use to signify, another one is Great.. you can check this for yourself..
Outrage as more than 400 Isis jihadis comung to Britain and AVOID facing justice – ‘Need to be locked up!’
You do know that isis al queads Muslim brotherhood in fact all these people were being paid by Britain ?
under orders from rothschild ?
this is why not one of these groups ever attacked israel
Bullshit article..totally the opposte
I live on the edge of Stamford Hill
a very jewish area, one square mile
no non jew is allowed to live here
should a house come up for sale
the jews club together and but it
They dont want it contaminated
Any way one in the morning
a furious knocking on my door the jewish guy said his son had gone into anaphylactic shock
he knew i had been a hospital worker
we went in and i said i will get the car round he neds the hospital now, on the way he stopped breathing, i got him going again
and rushed him to hospital as a speed that would have got me nicked, he told me this area is governed by the jews own police force the
shomrin, you will be OK
So getting him there they rushed in the boy
his father was in a bit of a state, i stayed with him
to keep him calm.
We talked about anything other that his son
i said i was worried about the huge number of migrants here, he said do not worry
there is a big war coming, we were told at the synagogue to invest in stock to do with war supplies
when war does come all the migrants will go home Eventually the doctor said the boy is stable now and is ok, he said your intervention saved his life,
the jewish chap broke down and kept thanking me
He and his wife invited my wife and i to dinner
with them as thanks, both his boys have health niggles and i was able to advise him on this
He told me jews always know when war was comes i will tell you when to send your sons abroad
to avoid conscription
Moment car explodes on road where PM Keir Starmer’s home ‘targeted in arson attack’
Footage shows the dark blue Toyota RAV4 engulfed in flames as firefighters fought the blaze near the Prime Minister’s North London home.
Anti communist pro britain movement suspected
The Chinese naval ships are built to US and higher standards, and Chinese built and Chinese registered merchant vessels are also to to military standards, so they are convertible
OPINION – People across the UK celebrating the Starmer fires are guilty of a terrible sin as bad as those who bought tickets to street parties when mass murderer Tony Blair dies
Opinion by Maddy Mussen •
When news broke of a fire at Keir Starmer’s family home in Kentish Town yesterday, even the most internet-inured amongst us should have paused scrolling to think, “F***, that’s actually pretty scary.”
Maybe it’s because Londoners in particular feel betrayed, maybe it’s because Starmer is a left-leaning corrupt politician, maybe it’s because he hasn’t been in the job that long so makes mistakes, like keeping on importing migrants but he may be hated more that churchill, but hes new to the job
21-year-old man has now been arrested on suspicion of arson with intent to endanger life. It wasn’t just one fire, either. The Met are also investigating whether a vehicle fire and a blaze at a property in north London may be linked to the third fire in Kentish Town. 21-year-old man has now been arrested on suspicion of arson with intent to endanger life. It wasn’t just one fire, either. The Met are also investigating whether a vehicle fire and another blaze at his property across town
Luckily, only the entrance to the Kentish Town townhouse was damaged and nobody was hurt, according to police. But that didn’t stop people from wishing the Starmers were home in the blaze.
A photographer gathers evidence from the fire damaged entrance to a property in north London owned by Prime Minister Keir Starmer
I discovered as I scrolled through the Instagram comment section of a mainly left-wing publication yesterday. The publication has 431,000 followers. Under a post that broke the news of the fire, there were multiple comments celebrating. “About time”. “Is the fire ok?” “Shame he wasn’t inside.” and
” witches claim revenge ”
next fire call carl jones to visit first
What is the real story here?.The Indian govt denies any Indian jets were shot down?.
Naturally the Indian media portrays India in the superior position.
They even describe an Indian media presenter (“Palkie Shurma” or something like that as a “black belt exponent of Kama Sutra?.
No doubt India has suffered from. Brain drain to the USA.Indians have suffered from brain drain amongst the Brahmans…..sort of the reverse of Britain whose average intelligence has dropped thanks to the arrival of thousands of thicko’s from around the world.
There are other factors involved….the possibility of Pakistan/Iran axis etc.??.
This could possibly involve the marriage of Imran Khan to the daughter of a rich jew.Its a serious mistake for Britain to have allowed MILLIONS of people from the Indian Sub-Continent.
BRITAIN MUST SAVE ITSELF….otherwise the nation is FINISHED.
chesterton–I lazily thought :”Someone else’ ll say that”
@ Carl…
By ‘merchant vessels’ do you mean those 3 mile long container ships that use as much fuel as a small banana republic..
full of toxic landfill made by little yella slaves? or if you are by nature a consumer..the latest ‘products’ for your lifestyle hehe…
are they the sort of American ‘standards’ you are referring to…
@bERTRAND re “… He and his wife invited my wife and i to dinner….”
Hate to sound pedantic and use you as an example -especially after such a heart-rending (🙄) story – but it IRKS no fkin end that not one in a thousand THICK Brits knows the correct grammatical ENGLISH of “I” when used as an object!!
Hint: it happens to be “”ME!!!!”
Thus, in your example the CORRECT grammar is: “He and his wife invited my wife and !!!ME!!! to dinner”… and NOT “..my wife and !!!!I!!!!”
And in case you think I’m picking on THICK Bruts… rest assured that DUMB Yanks are even “worserer”!!!! 🙄
everyone laughs at carl jones
i have not heard one person offer the boy some help
chesterton: sheeple are consumers the world over. I don’t dwell on the waste of sheeple existence. Sheeple live in and on the shit of sheeple existence. I’ve driven around some of Scotlands most beautiful areas, but the main roads are strewn with litter thrown out of vehicles, mostly driven by locals. I’m sure some tourists throw litter, but not many.
I’m currently parked up 3 miles west of Caernarfon, 3 feet from the beach. Light wind, most cloudless skies. When I go litter picking later today, I know that 95% of will be locals, sheeple who have bins at home.
Yesterday morning I was in London, 2 miles from the Palace of Westminster. Walking my dog, and all I see is litter. Sheeple are naturally disgusting, dirty, and completely unable to muster 2 grams of mindfulness, and the Nazi one party state doesn’t give a crap either.
Nazi UK is a dirty little cuntry, full of dirty thicko sheeple. Its 90% better in Europe.
The DeepSeek Moment for Modern Air Combat – Lessons from the Pakistan India Air War
Brits, you need to be reminded the title of the article. and stop vomiting your frustration as Zionists pumped the mother of immigration in your little island. You are fucked up as every lazy Europe nation. sucked it up. don’t ruin the comment section here!
you could stop it if didn’t roll and played dead when its happened.
even Gaza fight back the ‘master/Zionists’ who you scared so much.
piss off! don’t come here and complain as Zionist chop your ball and dressed up high hill and skirts.
@ Lewis..
Glad I could help.. if you need a coffee or someone to fill your pipe…let me know..