Paul Craig Roberts – paulcraigroberts.org Sept 4, 2024
Not even one value of Western civilization remains. All values that composed an era of freedom have been repudiated.
The example of the hour is Telegram owner Durov’s indictment in France. The basis of the French indictment is that Telegram’s privacy, the basis for its existence, provides a mechanism that criminals can use to commit crimes, such as posts of children in sexual acts. Privacy also provides secret means of communication that criminals and drug dealers use for their illegal businesses. The French government’s claim is that Telegram, by providing privacy, enables these crimes and therefore Durov is complicit in the crimes. Notice that it is Durov, not the child pornographers and drug dealers, who is being prosecuted.
In other words, the argument of the French indictment is that as an owner of a communication mechanism that criminals use to facilitate their commitment of crimes, Durov himself has committed a crime.
We have been hearing illogical arguments of this kind for some time. Those who want to take away the ability of people to protect themselves from criminals and rapists by using their Second Amendment right to own firearms try to hold firearm manufacturers responsible for injuries and deaths caused by people using firearms. In other words, it is the manufacturer’s fault, because his product enabled the criminal to commit the crime.
Sooner or later this argument will be applied to a large number of goods and services. For example, vehicles are used in bank robberies, in murders, and in human trafficking, and it is the car and vehicle manufacturers who enabled the criminals by producing the vehicle.
One can see it applied to search engines and to GPS, because they enable criminals to locate their target.
All of this might sound silly to a reader, but it is no more silly than the French government’s indictment of Durov. Indeed, it is not silly at all. It is weaponized law in operation.
In a way Durov’s indictment is his own fault. Like many Russians who have been brainwashed by Western propaganda, Durov thought France had more freedom than Russia and took French citizenship. He made a mistake.
The French case against Durov also reflects the Gestapo police state argument, which over the years has been finding a welcome home in the Western world, that it is the responsibility of private individuals to be accomplices of police and that the failure to perform this role indicates criminal behavior.
For the past several decades people in the Western world have been so poorly educated–indoctrinated against themselves instead of educated–that they find it plausible that people who refuse to be agents of a police state are criminals.
The Washington Post sees it this way. The only valid reason for social media’s existence is to spy for the government. One of the Post’s mal-educated reporters wrote that “for years internet moguls have flown above the law.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/08/31/musk-durov-social-media-crackdown/
How is protecting free speech “flying above the law?” What law is above the First Amendment?
The indoctrinated reporter thinks that laws contrary to the First Amendment of the US Constitution are valid, and that Elon Musk and Pavel Durov are violating the law by their commitment to free speech.
The Washington’s Post’s presstitute says “The world’s internet regulators are no longer playing around.” He writes that the crackdowns against Telegram and X “come months after the United States passed a law that could lead to the banning of TikTok” and herald the end of the era of free speech on the Internet, a good thing in the Post’s view.
The Washington Post is delighted that free speech is to be regulated. In my opinion the entire rationale for the existence of the Washington Post is to control narratives for the CIA.
As even insouciant Americans should know after enduring eight years of the system violating all ethics and all laws in its effort to deep-six Donald Trump, throughout the Western world law is nothing but a weapon to protect the lies fed to insouciant people as official narratives, the doubting of which is rapidly becoming a criminal action.
In the name of official narratives, truth is being removed from the Western world.
In my lifetime I have watched the transformation of the free Western world, a product of centuries of struggle, into a Gestapo Police State.

Donald Trump has vowed to release all ‘new UFO footage’ and files on Jeffrey Epstein if elected – and denied ever going to his island, a huge list of politicians and TV and film stars who went to have sex with the kids may be released. Actor Tom Hanks has vigorously denied nobbing little boys. Ghislane Maxwell who was filmed sucking a boys dick, denied it and claimed she was just tasting it. Several Brits are on the list Trump the 78-year-old, who sat down with American podcaster Lex Fridman on Tuesday, claimed he would push the Pentagon to make alleged videos of possible alien encounters visible to the public. Trump, who is struggling against Kamala Harris in the polls and making increasingly bizarre God claims, briefly touched on the US’s decades-long fascination with unidentified flying objects. Fridman asked: “A lot of people are very interested in the footage of UFOs. The Pentagon has released a few videos and there’s been anecdotal reports from fighter pilots. So a lot of people wanna know, will you help push the Pentagon to release more footage, which a lot of people claim is available.” Agreeing to release more footage, Trump replied: “Oh yeah, sure, I’ll do that. I would do that. I’d love to do that. I have to do that.”
Wrong, he took French citizenship to align his business interests. Telegram might have been developed by Durov, but it’s stock is almost entirely held by Nazi interestes.
His arrest by the French was US orchestrated to enhance WhatsApp and others, who are hardwired into the Nazi deep state. Telegram isn’t a threat, because encryption is a myth. Your phones and computers are totally open to Nazi intel, so anyone of interest will have keystroke recording, never mind the fact encryption can be broken.
The very idea you have secure communication, is a trap.
First thing: Durov is a jew. Ergo….
Second thing: “In my lifetime I have watched the transformation of the free Western world, a product of centuries of struggle, into a Gestapo Police State.”
Question: Was Roberts around to witness what the Gestapo were or were not like or is Roberts just going on what the ((( victors ))) of WW2 say?
To my knowledge the Gestapo operated at a time of war – therefore certain rights would have been curtailed. The same and worse would happen in “the west” today – and indeed did during the “covid” pLandemic. Interesting how Roberts doesn’t mention this. But then Roberts could well be just another jew. Ergo….
It has not been “eight years” of the System violating ethics; Shakespeare and Swift gave attention to the evils of lawyers, and Sovereign Citizens have their esoteric knowledge about Admiralty Law. A friend of a friend used that knowledge to keep getting quite big parcels of money, so it is not a joke
While its true to say Kier Starmer is the Jeremy Kyle of politics
e g everything that comes out his mouth is bullshit
I do feel folk area bit hard on that poor boy carl Jones
look we all start to learn some where, ina few months time he will no dobt regret his stupidity
George Bernard-Shaw said ” if i ,met a man aged 20 who was not a socialist i would say that man had no heart
but if i met that same man aged 30 and he was still a socialist i would say that man had no head”
All the rothchild apostles all the left wingers were homosexual
its the same today, if a man is a pervert its odds on hes a commie
thats carl jones priviledge, if he wants to wear pink trousers so what ?
The post-truth age brings with it the post-proof age. If they have no need for truth then they have no need to prove it. If a target of the state is accused of something the accusation becomes proof enough.
When they first started posting false flag videos to convince us these terrorist attacks really happened the productions were so bad it was easy to pull them apart. Because they were so bad it was always likely in the end they would stop giving us footage and just say they happened and the media would repeat the lies. But they had to provide footage in the beginning at least, to convince us these things were real, because to jump straight to “just take our word for it” was too big a leap of faith.
Now we’ve gone through that brief ‘proof’ stage to show us these attacks were real we’ve entered the post-proof age, where if anybody questions an incident they can point to other false flag videos like the Westminster Bridge stabbings and say, “That was real, therefore all later similar incidents are real”.
Bit of a shit comparison Roberts !
Gestarpo ?
I reckon they were STRICT with people within who hated Germans & their way of life.
The Gestapo must surely have been Nationalists,
No one could tag the Stasi as Nationalist supporting the local population,
Maybe the Western worlds pO-lice are actually more akin to the Stasi, Who openly victimised their own brethren, ordered to so by external influence,
Yeah, that’d be it,
Just change Gestapo for Stasi & I’ll read on,
(Nah just kidding).
In Britain Starmer’s government looks set to remove hereditary peers from the House of Lords. The undemocratic Second Chamber is populated by people not elected, who are there through being born into an establishment family (the hereditary peers) or because of Party affiliations (the life-long peers whose title dies with them and isn’t inherited). The House of Lords is also a way for governments to sidestep elected representatives altogether and put a Lord or Lady into government positions without the inconvenience of getting them elected. Blair did with Charles Faulkner, elevated to Lord Faulkner, his mate from law chambers he appointed as the Attorney General, the UK’s highest lawyer. Similar with David Cameron, voted out of parliament but then made a Tory Lord then appointed Foreign Secretary.
The House of Lords needs to be replaced by something democratic, not by the anti-democratic Starmer. WEF-linked Starmer likely wants to introduce laws even the most hoitty-toitty peers will think are too much of an attack on the plebs. He’ll be near-impossible to rein in as it’s the WEF who’ll instruct him.
PCR channelling CJ ? 🤔
Most likely this will all come to a head around the time of the US election.
It is possible they’ll rig the election for the crypto jew Harris to win.This would get black Americans onside….thus driving a wedge between Americans . .
Would the Jewish oligarchs try this on?.
Remember all this stuff is about Israel .
Post ww1 the groundwork was laid for the establishment of Israel….the Ottomans were removed making way for the British to step in. .so they reluctantly stepped in (Balfour was a crypto jew and the half jew Churchill stepped into the frame.)
Post ww2 and Israel was created….Arab Jews were then forced to migrate to Israel often via violence created..by the early Mossad.They needed extra manpower thus Ethiopian quasi jews were flown in….accompanied by the usual song and dance by the Wests zio media.Netanyahoos brother was one of the casualties in this scam.
So ww3 is absolutely crucial for the current plans…..this will give the jew a freehand in Lebanon and they’ll get their hands on the Litani River… .another 50 years and they’ll move on Syria.
The fiends MIGHT use nuclear weapons “it weren’t me guvnor” ….
Meantime Europe sinks betrayed by the treacherous zionist controlled governments….with Starmer being the perfect example…..leftists may have cottoned onto him by then.??.
If Germany goes to war against Russia….this will be an utter disaster…..
Notice how they gradually involving Ukraine and Russia.
One more thing…..surely the zio-filth will pull the plug on the world economy……to put everything into a Flux….making events difficult to predict.
British prosecutors have decided not to pursue criminal charges of multiple rapes and indecent assaults against former Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein.The Crown Prosecution Service said on Thursday that it decided to discontinue proceedings against Weinstein because there is “no longer a realistic prospect of conviction.’’ “We have explained our decision to all parties,’’ the CPS said in statement. ’’We would always encourage any potential victims of sexual assault to come forward and report to police and we will prosecute wherever our legal test is met.” The CPS had previously authorized police to file the charges against Weinstein in relation to alleged child rapes that occurred in London in 1996 and at Epsteins Island Weinstein remains in custody in New York while awaiting retrial on rape and sexual assault charges in Manhattan, prosecutors said in August after the former movie mogul made a brief court appearance related to California’s request to extradite him there. After the retrial, he is due to start serving a 16-year sentence in California for a separate rape conviction in Los Angeles, authorities said. Weinstein, who has denied that he raped or sexually assaulted anyone, was convicted in Los Angeles in 2022 while already serving a 23-year sentence in New York. It is known powerful jews were trying hard to get him off
If I met a man, aged 50, who was not a “Nazi,” I would say that he hadn’t been paying attention.
Peter Jenkins–Carl Jones is about 62 and has been doing this for twenty years, and defended his attitude when I questioned it, so I am not expecting change in him
It started with ‘gun control’: ‘guns kill people’ so charge the gun dealer as an accessory to the crime.
yes, you cannot trust any state . 9.11. + covid
has shown even to the most stupid .
peterjenkins: ah, another Nazi turd, with cheap shallow attacks. I am not a commie, I don’t fall for this gutter propaganda that the Nazi West is commie, or that the Soviet system was communist.
All these attacks on me, I think it’s great, kudos and all that shite. It’s true, there’s zero debate on this site, due to the editor, or those that give instructions to the editor, be that a condition to stay open.
Given that content has fallen to a very low point, maybe there’s no scope for productive debate. The editor says that content is all important, yet is become so bad.
Carl Jones–in the public discourse, a Nazi is someone who thinks Whites are under threat and that Jews are a big part of why: in that context, Nazis are right
It is a Soviet zionist commissar state, not a gestapo state belonging to the decent people of the National Socialists