2,000 years ago and before the age of international travel any man born in the Middle East would have dark hair and beard, brown eyes and have olive skin. He would not have blond hair and blue eyes. He would look more like Osama bin Laden or Saddam Hussein than George W Bush or Tony Blair.
I used to believe Jesus was a real man, but not for a long time now.
Sarah Bellum
on March 23, 2024 at 11:41 am
If the good Lord is indeed going to make a return and rule the earth through a regime of infinite peace and benign goodness he’s cutting it a bit fine, IMHO. What the f*** is going on up there? If things carry on at the present rate of progress there is going to be nothing left for him to preside over.
If he is going to 1. Fix the potholes 2. Abolish Council Tax and 3. Put an end to this DIE and trans nonsense then he’ll get my vote.
Or have I missed something?
Absolutely amazing, and true, and a great confirmation for me, and surely others. Everything matches up with scriptures in the gospels, even the occult ones or hidden ones that Jesus knew all things, and even knew His future wife, Mary Magdalene. She being mentioned directly here as the sister of Martha, and brother of Lazarus there as a young family.
This being the main reason why this INTERVIEW had to be censored, as the Western Roamn Catholic Church, did not want their followers considering Mary Magdalene as the wife of Jesus and that he had descendants aka DaVinci Code.
It gives Jesus physical description, tall, blue eyes, and weather beaten as Jesus was always outdoors and walking. Amazing truths, and connected with all the principles of all ages.
The man who interviewed Mary, Joseph, and others is mention in the book of Acts.
Acts 22:3 KJVS
I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.
Thayer’s Definition
1. Gamaliel = “my recompenser is God”
a. a Pharisee and celebrated doctor of the law, who gave prudent worldly advice in the Sanhedrin respecting the treatment of the followers of Jesus of Nazareth. Acts 5:34 ff. (A.D.29.) We learn from Acts 22:3 that he was the preceptor of Paul. He is generally identified with the very celebrated Jewish doctor Gamaliel, grandson of Hillel, and who is referred to as authority in the Jewish Mishna.
lewis jones
on March 23, 2024 at 8:27 pm
MM–that was a very lame assertion
TheyRlying
on March 23, 2024 at 8:32 pm
@ MM
In order for a guy like me who used to worship the god of fun, to come to believe in Jesus I had to make choice, and then was given a few miracles which has made it impossible for me to go back. I have met many others who have much more in he way of attractive souls to God than I have or can ever hope to attain, who have had no miracles they could recognize at such to strengthen their faith, which brought me to the conclusion that those virtues which we call faith, hope and charity are things that make the soul grow. If everyone was an habitual weakling like myself and needed a series of miraculous interventions to maintain their faith, there would not be much in the way of any soul growth for humankind.
This realization brought me to the view that God is in the business of cultivating souls. The meaning of “storing up treasures in heaven” has to do with the exercise of those corny old divine virtues of a faith constantly tried, a hope of heaven or light to endure problems of heaven not just for my own soul and others, but a hope of that kingdom conquering earth and demolishing hell’s hold on it and our affairs, and a charity based on acts of self-abandonment and on-going self giving.
The miracle of the Resurrection is hard to behold unless you actually abandon almost everything and follow him with your own little cross or crosses right into the tomb, and have no fear, and just trust, never giving up that attachment to Him. Even then it is hard to believe in the physical Resurrection of Christ, because you may say, “Who cares. I have lived. I am no longer needed and don’t have to come back again.” If so you are playing God. Whereas, if you follow the only real leader in life, then any treasures you may have are hidden from you, into which you are being formed. As for a physical Resurrection with our bodies or whatever we are being made into, you simply have to accept that Jesus did not just spiritually rise from the dead but that his whole being including his human aspect and body did rise in a glorified state from the tomb.
Put faith first and not understanding, or you will not rise beyond the dead in your present life and probably even in the life to come, unless one is to live an eternity without God, which does not seem possible, or if so would be very lonely affair. Life in the world is much like being a fish in the ocean. There is the light and realm of a vast atmosphere which is like the true Up^. Then there is the realm in the great depts where sunlight never penetrates, and which monstrous creatures lurk and who prey on little fish which have lost their way.
bibble
on March 23, 2024 at 9:24 pm
jesus was a Palestinian…would be in Al Qassam brigade
blowing kikes heads off if around today..
just sayin
btw great comment Sarah:)
Last of the Mohicans
on March 23, 2024 at 10:51 pm
I imagine the vatican has a lot of this questionable stuff it will release in times like these when Christianity is in rapid decline. It is in decline because the churches are big tax-free money making operations that never said a thing about any war, the fake pandemic etc etc etc and always walked hand in hand with genocidal schizoid Israel and the “state”, here in greater Orwellia.
The new testament has some obvious clues if Jesus existed he was a Master in the eastern tradition and gnosticism, the ones that actually knew him, if he existed as written, if you look at the early “wars” between the factions the ones that hung around with him were sidelined because they rejected the jews’ old testament “god”..
It looks to be a “limited hangout” written after the fact by jewish lawyers of Rome, and glued onto the jewish old testament to dilute out the ones who experienced some truth.
lobro
on March 24, 2024 at 6:16 am
I am reading Acta Pilati, which I think is the same thing as described in article.
If not the world’s slowest reader, then I am a close second, I think that over lifetime, I read maybe half-dozen right to the end, in all the rest gave up long before.
But this book has my attention because after having fine-tooth combed all the forewords, introductions, attestations, prologues and so forth, to catch a scent of prevarication and false notes, I am now quite sure that it is a real deal insofar as the author, Rev. Mahon (Protestant) speaks in honest conviction of veracity of the content.
If he was fooled, so be it but I will pay due respect to his own integrity by continuing the read.
Indeed, Gemaliel’s report to the Sanhedrin is a powerful document that breathes authenticity.
Hauntess
on March 24, 2024 at 6:55 am
When the narrator read about Jesus having a nose like a jew after describing Joseph as an irritating unkempt man, it sounded like he was portraying what today’s misled christians & those who think jews made up Christ imagine those persons as being like.
That’s why early Christian art, writings & music should be studied to get a better understanding & truer appreciation of Redemption reality. Even some composers & authors of the 18th & 19th centuries were deeply cognizant of this truth.
The 20th century experienced the prime of scientific investigation with complete disregard for the spiritual dimension which included developing a disculture of the primacy of abstraction, sex & ‘social justice’- the perfect cocktail for ‘moral carnality’ befitting the serpent seed.
All of this has been exposed in the early 21st century which awaits the cataclysmic conclusion that may still be long in coming.
Maty
on March 24, 2024 at 7:32 am
God told me that my God is better than your God because your God is not better than my God. The world doesn’t need a lesser God so to get rid of the lesser God I must get rid of you.
Just wondering what it feels like to be Jew.
eddieb
on March 24, 2024 at 8:18 am
MM, 15,000 years ago Egyptians were either Mediterannean Brown or Blonde haired Blue eyed, back then Black coloured workers were brought into do the work that the locals wouldn’t/couldn’t do. Over time these inports mixed with the locals and the result is what we see today.
The same thing is being forced on the World today, i.e removing the Whites of the World!
God doesn’t excist, he was invented by the dues and the Bible was written by the Catholics 1100 yrs after God’s son was supposedly born!
LowBlow
on March 24, 2024 at 10:00 am
Nice One Tricky
lewis jones
on March 24, 2024 at 2:10 pm
At a Visible article, with money-changers in the title, the comments got good but then Gabreal inserted his skin colour obsession “again” (as always) and insulted me, and reminded me about my “albino” comment. I will need to explain more for feeble-minded Gab, apparently: before there is x, there is no-x, because x had to appear in a world with no x. I used the example of a tree–before there were trees there were no trees, or no-trees, a no-trees world, and, likewise, before there was (read nice and slow, Gab) melanin in human skin, there was no melanin in human skin
hp
on March 24, 2024 at 3:44 pm
Once, in Melbourne, a group of Christian ministers came to visit me. They asked, “What is your idea of Jesus Christ?” I told them, “He is our guru. He is preaching God consciousness, so he is our spiritual master.” The ministers very much appreciated that. (Srila Prabhupada)
Sophie Johnson
on March 24, 2024 at 6:32 pm
Well said, Last of the Mohicans!
Christianity, in the simple sense of ‘knowledge of God’, was ruthlessly destroyed by the Roman church. The last holders of the true faith that grew from the Early Christians were the many-named Cathari (itself a spoof name: they called themselves ‘Good Christians, and ‘Good people’), otherwise known as the Albigensians, were destroyed by the Roman Church in a 20-year crusade that began at the turn of the 11th century and lasted for 20 years, only to be revived, mostly in Italy, with the Inquisitions.
Little is known of the faith of these Good Christians. They were prolific writers. But the Roman church was fastidious in its destruction of their writings. Some Medieval historians think that the core of that faith was that Jesus was not born. He was always Spirit. (Is that not far easier to believe than the virgin birth prattle?)
For goodness sakes! Is it even possible to believe that God became man, but took to fussing about with a virgin birth for himself? That would entail that Jesus disdained birth in the normal human way. And that would have to be tosh, and redolently poofy. But it does not surprise. Take a look at the contemporary ‘Christian’ clergy. You would be lucky to find one-in-ten in a healthy heterosexual state.
I have heard that there remains a community of Good Christians. I should love to find them. Here is a pretty good summary of the scholarship on this subject as I know it:
0https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharism
This Gamaliel interview is a poorly made fake with exactly nothing to commend the possibility that it is genuine. Note in it the LGBT push: Mary swears that Jesus never had any romantic attachment to a woman.
memyselfnie
on March 24, 2024 at 8:23 pm
After thousand of years, some credit is obviously due. Dozens of religions, who built untold numbers of “churches”, zillions of followers with such Word(s) of power (including the bit about “a prophet never accepted in his own country”), a lifetime of healing and influence un-matched by ANYONE EVER – a life well lived, and ‘we’ still don’t know real?! Inspiring, prime example to us all STILL… and going and going yet…
lewis jones
on March 24, 2024 at 9:14 pm
Sarah Bellum–when Jesus tried to mend the pot-holes, the Councils called it littering
Wassabi
on March 24, 2024 at 9:56 pm
The best description of Jesus’s life is written by Maria Valtorta in 10 volumes:
“I have yet many things to say unto you,” Christ told a world, filled with crudeness and ignorance, “but ye cannot bear them now” (John 16:12).
“Christ taught everybody to love his father, Krishna. Why didn’t he give more details about Lord Krishna? We have to consider the circumstances and the culture at the time Christ taught. After all, one can only speak according to the understanding of the audience. In the beginning arithmetic class we cannot mention the principles of higher mathematics like calculus and trigonometry. We have to teach according to time and place. So Christ taught only the basics.”
2,000 years ago and before the age of international travel any man born in the Middle East would have dark hair and beard, brown eyes and have olive skin. He would not have blond hair and blue eyes. He would look more like Osama bin Laden or Saddam Hussein than George W Bush or Tony Blair.
I used to believe Jesus was a real man, but not for a long time now.
If the good Lord is indeed going to make a return and rule the earth through a regime of infinite peace and benign goodness he’s cutting it a bit fine, IMHO. What the f*** is going on up there? If things carry on at the present rate of progress there is going to be nothing left for him to preside over.
If he is going to 1. Fix the potholes 2. Abolish Council Tax and 3. Put an end to this DIE and trans nonsense then he’ll get my vote.
Or have I missed something?
Absolutely amazing, and true, and a great confirmation for me, and surely others. Everything matches up with scriptures in the gospels, even the occult ones or hidden ones that Jesus knew all things, and even knew His future wife, Mary Magdalene. She being mentioned directly here as the sister of Martha, and brother of Lazarus there as a young family.
This being the main reason why this INTERVIEW had to be censored, as the Western Roamn Catholic Church, did not want their followers considering Mary Magdalene as the wife of Jesus and that he had descendants aka DaVinci Code.
It gives Jesus physical description, tall, blue eyes, and weather beaten as Jesus was always outdoors and walking. Amazing truths, and connected with all the principles of all ages.
https://www.davidjayjordan.com/Marymagdalene.html
https://www.davidjayjordan.com/GrailMysteries.html
Etc. Etc.
Love in Jesus
David
The man who interviewed Mary, Joseph, and others is mention in the book of Acts.
Acts 22:3 KJVS
I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.
Thayer’s Definition
1. Gamaliel = “my recompenser is God”
a. a Pharisee and celebrated doctor of the law, who gave prudent worldly advice in the Sanhedrin respecting the treatment of the followers of Jesus of Nazareth. Acts 5:34 ff. (A.D.29.) We learn from Acts 22:3 that he was the preceptor of Paul. He is generally identified with the very celebrated Jewish doctor Gamaliel, grandson of Hillel, and who is referred to as authority in the Jewish Mishna.
MM–that was a very lame assertion
@ MM
In order for a guy like me who used to worship the god of fun, to come to believe in Jesus I had to make choice, and then was given a few miracles which has made it impossible for me to go back. I have met many others who have much more in he way of attractive souls to God than I have or can ever hope to attain, who have had no miracles they could recognize at such to strengthen their faith, which brought me to the conclusion that those virtues which we call faith, hope and charity are things that make the soul grow. If everyone was an habitual weakling like myself and needed a series of miraculous interventions to maintain their faith, there would not be much in the way of any soul growth for humankind.
This realization brought me to the view that God is in the business of cultivating souls. The meaning of “storing up treasures in heaven” has to do with the exercise of those corny old divine virtues of a faith constantly tried, a hope of heaven or light to endure problems of heaven not just for my own soul and others, but a hope of that kingdom conquering earth and demolishing hell’s hold on it and our affairs, and a charity based on acts of self-abandonment and on-going self giving.
The miracle of the Resurrection is hard to behold unless you actually abandon almost everything and follow him with your own little cross or crosses right into the tomb, and have no fear, and just trust, never giving up that attachment to Him. Even then it is hard to believe in the physical Resurrection of Christ, because you may say, “Who cares. I have lived. I am no longer needed and don’t have to come back again.” If so you are playing God. Whereas, if you follow the only real leader in life, then any treasures you may have are hidden from you, into which you are being formed. As for a physical Resurrection with our bodies or whatever we are being made into, you simply have to accept that Jesus did not just spiritually rise from the dead but that his whole being including his human aspect and body did rise in a glorified state from the tomb.
Put faith first and not understanding, or you will not rise beyond the dead in your present life and probably even in the life to come, unless one is to live an eternity without God, which does not seem possible, or if so would be very lonely affair. Life in the world is much like being a fish in the ocean. There is the light and realm of a vast atmosphere which is like the true Up^. Then there is the realm in the great depts where sunlight never penetrates, and which monstrous creatures lurk and who prey on little fish which have lost their way.
jesus was a Palestinian…would be in Al Qassam brigade
blowing kikes heads off if around today..
just sayin
btw great comment Sarah:)
I imagine the vatican has a lot of this questionable stuff it will release in times like these when Christianity is in rapid decline. It is in decline because the churches are big tax-free money making operations that never said a thing about any war, the fake pandemic etc etc etc and always walked hand in hand with genocidal schizoid Israel and the “state”, here in greater Orwellia.
The new testament has some obvious clues if Jesus existed he was a Master in the eastern tradition and gnosticism, the ones that actually knew him, if he existed as written, if you look at the early “wars” between the factions the ones that hung around with him were sidelined because they rejected the jews’ old testament “god”..
It looks to be a “limited hangout” written after the fact by jewish lawyers of Rome, and glued onto the jewish old testament to dilute out the ones who experienced some truth.
I am reading Acta Pilati, which I think is the same thing as described in article.
If not the world’s slowest reader, then I am a close second, I think that over lifetime, I read maybe half-dozen right to the end, in all the rest gave up long before.
But this book has my attention because after having fine-tooth combed all the forewords, introductions, attestations, prologues and so forth, to catch a scent of prevarication and false notes, I am now quite sure that it is a real deal insofar as the author, Rev. Mahon (Protestant) speaks in honest conviction of veracity of the content.
If he was fooled, so be it but I will pay due respect to his own integrity by continuing the read.
Indeed, Gemaliel’s report to the Sanhedrin is a powerful document that breathes authenticity.
When the narrator read about Jesus having a nose like a jew after describing Joseph as an irritating unkempt man, it sounded like he was portraying what today’s misled christians & those who think jews made up Christ imagine those persons as being like.
That’s why early Christian art, writings & music should be studied to get a better understanding & truer appreciation of Redemption reality. Even some composers & authors of the 18th & 19th centuries were deeply cognizant of this truth.
The 20th century experienced the prime of scientific investigation with complete disregard for the spiritual dimension which included developing a disculture of the primacy of abstraction, sex & ‘social justice’- the perfect cocktail for ‘moral carnality’ befitting the serpent seed.
All of this has been exposed in the early 21st century which awaits the cataclysmic conclusion that may still be long in coming.
God told me that my God is better than your God because your God is not better than my God. The world doesn’t need a lesser God so to get rid of the lesser God I must get rid of you.
Just wondering what it feels like to be Jew.
MM, 15,000 years ago Egyptians were either Mediterannean Brown or Blonde haired Blue eyed, back then Black coloured workers were brought into do the work that the locals wouldn’t/couldn’t do. Over time these inports mixed with the locals and the result is what we see today.
The same thing is being forced on the World today, i.e removing the Whites of the World!
God doesn’t excist, he was invented by the dues and the Bible was written by the Catholics 1100 yrs after God’s son was supposedly born!
Nice One Tricky
At a Visible article, with money-changers in the title, the comments got good but then Gabreal inserted his skin colour obsession “again” (as always) and insulted me, and reminded me about my “albino” comment. I will need to explain more for feeble-minded Gab, apparently: before there is x, there is no-x, because x had to appear in a world with no x. I used the example of a tree–before there were trees there were no trees, or no-trees, a no-trees world, and, likewise, before there was (read nice and slow, Gab) melanin in human skin, there was no melanin in human skin
Once, in Melbourne, a group of Christian ministers came to visit me. They asked, “What is your idea of Jesus Christ?” I told them, “He is our guru. He is preaching God consciousness, so he is our spiritual master.” The ministers very much appreciated that. (Srila Prabhupada)
Well said, Last of the Mohicans!
Christianity, in the simple sense of ‘knowledge of God’, was ruthlessly destroyed by the Roman church. The last holders of the true faith that grew from the Early Christians were the many-named Cathari (itself a spoof name: they called themselves ‘Good Christians, and ‘Good people’), otherwise known as the Albigensians, were destroyed by the Roman Church in a 20-year crusade that began at the turn of the 11th century and lasted for 20 years, only to be revived, mostly in Italy, with the Inquisitions.
Little is known of the faith of these Good Christians. They were prolific writers. But the Roman church was fastidious in its destruction of their writings. Some Medieval historians think that the core of that faith was that Jesus was not born. He was always Spirit. (Is that not far easier to believe than the virgin birth prattle?)
For goodness sakes! Is it even possible to believe that God became man, but took to fussing about with a virgin birth for himself? That would entail that Jesus disdained birth in the normal human way. And that would have to be tosh, and redolently poofy. But it does not surprise. Take a look at the contemporary ‘Christian’ clergy. You would be lucky to find one-in-ten in a healthy heterosexual state.
I have heard that there remains a community of Good Christians. I should love to find them. Here is a pretty good summary of the scholarship on this subject as I know it:
0https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharism
This Gamaliel interview is a poorly made fake with exactly nothing to commend the possibility that it is genuine. Note in it the LGBT push: Mary swears that Jesus never had any romantic attachment to a woman.
After thousand of years, some credit is obviously due. Dozens of religions, who built untold numbers of “churches”, zillions of followers with such Word(s) of power (including the bit about “a prophet never accepted in his own country”), a lifetime of healing and influence un-matched by ANYONE EVER – a life well lived, and ‘we’ still don’t know real?! Inspiring, prime example to us all STILL… and going and going yet…
Sarah Bellum–when Jesus tried to mend the pot-holes, the Councils called it littering
The best description of Jesus’s life is written by Maria Valtorta in 10 volumes:
The Gospel as revealed to me
https://urlis.net/a0f3ok90
Magnificent work and detailed events
They don’t give up, do they?
“I have yet many things to say unto you,” Christ told a world, filled with crudeness and ignorance, “but ye cannot bear them now” (John 16:12).
“Christ taught everybody to love his father, Krishna. Why didn’t he give more details about Lord Krishna? We have to consider the circumstances and the culture at the time Christ taught. After all, one can only speak according to the understanding of the audience. In the beginning arithmetic class we cannot mention the principles of higher mathematics like calculus and trigonometry. We have to teach according to time and place. So Christ taught only the basics.”
time, place, circumstance