Israel has never explained how Palestinian fighters who crossed from Gaza on 7 October could have caused mass destruction to Israeli homes, as seen here in Kibbutz Be’eri, with their light weapons. There’s mounting evidence that heavy, indiscriminate fire by Israeli forces killed Palestinians and Israeli civilians alike.
Ali Abynimah The Electronic Intifada Nov 17, 2023
On Thursday, MSNBC host Mehdi Hasan challenged Israeli government spokesperson Mark Regev about the many lies and false claims that Israel has made to justify its genocidal bombing and invasion of Gaza.
While attempting to parry Hasan’s challenges, Regev told many more lies, trying to change the subject and shift the blame for the horrifying toll away from Israel and onto Israel’s Palestinian victims.
But Regev made one admission whose significance neither Regev nor Hasan appears to have recognized.
Regev was trying to make the point that Israel – supposedly unlike Hamas – can be trusted because when Israel makes a mistake, it admits it.
Regev gave this example: “We originally said, in the atrocious Hamas attack upon our people on October 7th, we had the number at 1,400 casualties and now we’ve revised that down to 1,200 because we understood that we’d overestimated, we made a mistake. There were actually bodies that were so badly burnt we thought they were ours, in the end apparently they were Hamas terrorists.”
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The question then is: who burned them?
The burned bodies that Israel used as an excuse to commit the genocide in Gaza were for Palestinian fighters. pic.twitter.com/yo2bymiDIo
— Ramy Abdu| رامي عبده (@RamAbdu) November 17, 2023
Earlier this month, Israel did in fact revise down the number of Israelis it says were killed on 7 October to “around 1,200.”
Although it has offered no direct evidence, Israel has claimed that Hamas fighters burned Israeli civilians en masse, in atrocities not seen since the Holocaust.
Israel has also never explained how Palestinians fighters could have achieved this or caused the enormous damage to Israeli houses with only the light weapons they were generally seen carrying.
It simply makes no sense that 200 bodies burned beyond recognition that Israel thought were Israeli civilians could turn out to be Hamas fighters unless Israel killed people indiscriminately.
Obviously Hamas fighters did not set themselves on fire and burn themselves beyond recognition. And Israel must know the circumstances in which these people died.
Evidence Israel killed its own
Regev’s statement is a significant addition to the mounting evidence that on 7 October Israeli forces went on a panicked rampage, firing wildly with powerful weapons, indiscriminately killing both Palestinian fighters and the Israeli civilians who were with them.
That is the testimony of Yasmin Porat, an Israeli civilian who survived a massacre by Israeli forces at Kibbutz Be’eri.
And the Israeli air force has admitted that it sent up more than two dozen attack helicopters which fired huge amounts of heavy cannon shells and Hellfire missiles on 7 October, even though in many cases the pilots could not tell Palestinians apart from Israeli civilians.
“Shoot at everything,” one squadron leader told his men.
Later in the Mehdi Hasan interview, Regev regurgitates the standard Israeli propaganda claim that the civilian death toll in Gaza is so high because Hamas uses civilians as “human shields.”
Hasan challenges this with what he poses as a hypothetical question. He asks Regev: “Would you bomb schools and houses in Israel if Hamas militants were believed to be under them and kill Israeli human shields in the process?”
Hasan does not seem to realize that this is exactly what Israel did on and after 7 October, as growing evidence indicates.
Needless to say, Regev did not provide any meaningful answer.
Who killed Israeli-Canadian activist Vivian Silver?
The tragic death of Silver has been covered widely by Western media this week, while appearing to sidestep mounting evidence that could implicate Israel's direct role in it.https://t.co/FlqAFAeGmp— Rabbi David Mivasair🔥 (@Mivasair) November 17, 2023
Israel’s continued disregard for the lives of its own civilians has been amply demonstrated by its carpet bombing of Gaza that is endangering and killing Israeli and foreign citizens detained there.
Burned cars, burned bodies
It is also notable that graphic images of badly burned bodies in cars that Israel released in its initial propaganda blitz after 7 October, bear a striking resemblance to the car of a Lebanese family Israel shelled across the border in southern Lebanon on 6 November, killing three young girls and their grandmother, and wounding their mother:
להפיץ, שכל העולם יראה את הזוועה pic.twitter.com/Y2StDzd15V
— Mendy Yahav (@MendyYahav) October 11, 2023
Credibility: The Israeli army said it had targeted “a suspicious vehicle containing several terrorists” The only people in the car were three girls, ages 14, 12, and 10, their grandmother, and their mother. All were killed except the mother. https://t.co/WQPjG89J8H pic.twitter.com/gVSMCsohv3
— Kenneth Roth (@KenRoth) November 14, 2023
Up until now, mainstream Western media – following the line from their governments – have refused to challenge Israel’s increasingly threadbare claims about what happened on 7 October.
There needs to be a full, independent inquiry into what happened – something neither Israel nor its American and European enablers are likely to demand or allow.
That is because there is already undeniable evidence – and Regev’s statement corroborates it – that the leaders in Tel Aviv ordering the massacres of Palestinian civilians already had the blood of many Israeli civilians on their hands even before the first bomb dropped on Gaza.

The whole thing was a staged false flag event. Not a single Hamas member was in israel. No one breached the border. They killed their own. All the world had to go on, was their media depiction of events. It was all BS. So they looked incompetent for a few hours? So what, that can explained away, swept under the carpet. Maybe Benny Mielikowski will have his Gaddafi moment. Let’s hope so.
Why Israel wants to erase context and history in the war on Gaza
The dehistoricisation of what is happening helps Israel pursue genocidal policies in Gaza.
Ilan Pappe is the Director of European Center of Palestine Studies at the University of Exeter.
On October 24, a statement by United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres caused a sharp reaction by Israel. While addressing the UN Security Council, the UN chief said that while he condemned in the strongest terms the massacre committed by Hamas on October 7, he wished to remind the world that it did not take place in a vacuum. He explained that one cannot dissociate 56 years of occupation from our engagement with the tragedy that unfolded on that day.
The Israeli government was quick to condemn the statement. Israeli officials demanded Guterres’s resignation, claiming that he supported Hamas and justified the massacre it carried out. The Israeli media also jumped on the bandwagon, asserting among other things that the UN chief “has demonstrated a stunning degree of moral bankruptcy”.
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This reaction suggests that a new type of allegation of anti-Semitism may now be on the table. Until October 7, Israel had pushed for the definition of anti-Semitism to be expanded to include criticism of the Israeli state and questioning the moral basis of Zionism. Now, contextualising and historicising what is going on could also trigger an accusation of anti-Semitism.
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freeman
And who says they even ‘killed their own’? Just because these Jews & MSM tell us Israelies died? not bloody likely
@Himmler
Yes, you’re probably right.
Israel knows the circumstances in which these people died.
These murderers have lots of experience. Think JFK, 911, etc. etc.