Hamas members pictured at the Gaza-Israel border months before Oct 7.
Shira Silkoff – Times of Israel Oct 26, 2023
Survivors of massacre on IDF base say they passed information up the chain of command on digging, mapping, training near the fence long before mass onslaught, but were ignored.
The brutal Hamas massacre on October 7 was preceded by months of warning signs noted by IDF surveillance soldiers and disregarded as unimportant by intelligence officials, according to eyewitness accounts given in recent days.
At least three months prior to the attack, surveillance soldiers serving on a base in Nahal Oz reported signs that something unusual was underway at the already-tumultuous Gaza border, situated a kilometer from them.
The activity reported by the soldiers included information on Hamas operatives conducting training sessions multiple times a day, digging holes and placing explosives along the border. According to the accounts of the soldiers, no action was taken by those who received the reports.
IDF surveillance soldiers, referred to in Hebrew as tatzpitaniyot, belong to the Combat Intelligence Corps and operate along the country’s borders, as well as throughout the West Bank.
The surveillance soldiers are referred to by many as “the eyes of the army” as they provide real-time intelligence information to soldiers in the field, 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
The soldiers gather information through a variety of cameras, sensors and maps, and are expected to be acutely aware of every small change that happens in the 15-30 kilometers of land that they are each responsible for monitoring.
Once relevant information has been gathered by the surveillance soldiers, it is passed up the chain of command, including to intelligence officials who then determine what steps need to be taken. However, according to the accounts of two surveillance soldiers stationed on a base in Kibbutz Nahal Oz, the signs of what was to come on October 7 were never taken seriously.
In a segment aired on Kan News on Wednesday evening, two soldiers, Yael Rotenberg and Maya Desiatnik, recounted their experiences in the months before the attack and up until 6:30 a.m. on Saturday, October 7.
Rotenberg recalled frequently seeing many Palestinians dressed in civilian clothing approach the border fence with maps, examining the ground around it and digging holes. One time, when she passed the information on, she was told that they were farmers, and there was nothing to worry about.
Rotenberg was asleep when the attack began, and of the surveillance soldiers who were in the living quarters that morning, she is the only one to have survived. Desiatnik, who was on duty, was the only other surveillance soldier at the base not killed or abducted.
“It’s infuriating,” she told Kan of the intelligence failure. “We saw what was happening, we told them about it, and we were the ones who were murdered.”
The Hamas terrorists would train at the border fence nonstop, Desiatnik told Kan. At first, it was once a week, then once a day, and then nearly constantly.
In addition to passing on information about the frequency of the training going on at the fence, the surveillance soldier said she collected evidence of the content of the training, which included how to drive a tank and how to cross into Israel via a tunnel. As the activity on the border increased, she realized that “it was just a matter of time” until something happened.
Former tatzpitaniyot Amit Yerushalmi and Noa Melman corroborated the accounts of the two survivors in an interview published by Channel 12 on Thursday morning.
Yerushalmi had finished her mandatory service a month prior to October 7, and had observed the increased activity on the Gaza border in the months leading up to her release.
“We sat on shifts and saw the convoy of vans. We saw the training, people shooting and rolling, practicing taking over a tank. The training went from once a week to twice a week, from every day to several times a day,” she told Channel 12.
“We saw patrols along the border, people with cameras and binoculars. It happened 300 meters from the fence. There were a lot of disturbances, people went down to the fence and detonated an outrageous amount of explosives, the amount of explosives was crazy.”
Like Rotenberg and Desiatnik, Yerushalmi said that she passed the information along, but that nobody seemed to take it seriously.
“I saw what was happening, I wrote everything down on the computer and passed it on. I don’t know what happened with it, we don’t actually know what they do with the information.”
Melman finished her mandatory service some nine months ago, but told Channel 12 that even then, there were indications of what was to come, including a mock border fence set up by Hamas in order for the terrorists to practice, again and again, blowing up the border and crossing over to the other side.
“Our commanders told us to report what we saw, but everyone treated it like it was normal, like it was routine,” she said.
On Wednesday evening, video footage was acquired and aired by Channel 12 in which a convoy of white pickup trucks — which are favored by Hamas terrorists and were used on October 7 — can be seen driving past the border fence, at one point coming to a halt while those driving observed the border.
הסרטון שרץ על טנדרי חמאס ליד הגבול חודש לפני המתקפה זה הדבר הכי אולד ניוז.
אלו פיק-אפים עם חמושי חמאס שמפטרלים כל יום מאז 2015 על ציר המערכת העזתי, בין מגדלי המחבלים שמול הישובים.
ממשלת ישראל פקדה על צה"ל לאפשר הקמת צבא טרור בעזה, אז למה מתרגשים מהסרטון??https://t.co/ENhairtQNk pic.twitter.com/undCWCBRnJ— יואב זיתון (@yoavzitun) October 25, 2023
While Channel 12 has said that the footage was taken a month before October 7, this claim has been disputed, with other reports claiming it was captured just one week prior.
A Ynet military correspondent called it “old news” in a post on X, formerly Twitter. “These are pickup trucks with Hamas operatives; they have been patrolling the Gaza border road every day since 2015,” he added.
A report from the news outlet from 2015 backs up his claim, with footage of Hamas patrolling on the then newly constructed border road, some 300 meters from the fence.
At the time, Ynet reported that it was unclear if the patrols were being carried out for intelligence purposes, or if their purpose was to intimidate the IDF.
Yerushalmi explained to Channel 12 that the patrol featured in the recent video differed from the regular patrols, although she did not explain why.
“When we saw the convoy of pickup trucks, we said it was suspicious, it shouldn’t happen, it’s not something they do on a daily basis. In the two years I served, I never saw anything like it.”
In the weeks before October 7, Rotenberg noticed that the efforts of the Hamas soldiers were concentrated at two specific points of the area she was responsible for tracking. However, she continued to hear from her commanders that it wasn’t important and that there was nothing that could be done about it.
On October 7, the areas highlighted by Rotenberg were just two of the multiple points along the fence through which 2,500 Hamas terrorists stormed into Israel.
Desiatnik began her shift at 3:30 a.m. on October 7. It started as normal, she recounted to Kan, but at 6:30 a.m., everything changed.
“We saw people running to the border from every direction, running with guns. We saw motorbikes and pickup trucks driving straight at the fence,” she said. “We watched them blow up the fence and destroy it. And we might have been crying but we continued to do our jobs at the same time.”
It was then that their cameras were cut.
Speaking to Channel 12, Yerushalmi touched on what the survivors of the massacre feel is a complete failure of the IDF to protect them after failing to take their warnings seriously.
“They [the surveillance soldiers] understood what was happening and knew exactly what to do. Usually with these events, you understand very quickly what is happening.
“We were taught that we would report on the incident, we would direct helicopters to the scene, and someone would come and save us,” she said. “Our mission was to protect the kibbutz, not ourselves. They always said that someone would come and protect us.”


UK DRINKING WATER
Refugees coming in from Africa are being told do not drink UK tap water
yet we go and dig wells to give them clean water in their countries back home.
Scientists are concerned that the allowable levels of toxic PFAS – known as “forever chemicals” – in drinking water are too high.
Guidelines from the Drinking Water Inspectorate, which covers England and Wales, state drinking water must contain PFAS chemicals at no more than 100 nanograms per litre (ng/l). Above that, action must be taken to reduce levels.
A BBC study found PFAS levels exceeded European safety levels in almost half of the samples taken. However, none exceeded the current safety level in England and Wales linked to cancer and other diseases, so the BBC claim
PFAs are in many products such as non-stick pans, food packaging, carpets, furniture, and firefighting foam.
The government under pressure from Peter Mandelson was caught adding Aluminium to tap water in 1998 Dame Barbara Clayton led a Royal Commision
into the pollution incident where 30 tons was added by mistake to the drinking water at Camelford UK causing a health crisis.
The fact is our drinking water is not fit for purpose, with extremely high levels of chlorine and fluoride, this fluoride is actually Chinese industrial waste
My window cleaner uses distilled water as tap water is too dirty
yet they expect us to drink it.
There is so much estrogen in the water that fish are changing sex
and it has ben blamed on the high incidence in recent poofery cases
where men have been becoming homosexual.
The UK column said homosexuality is now so common that boys surveyed from 16 London care homes were being abused ” on an industrial scale ”
Working with the University of Greenwich and Manchester Metropolitan University, the BBC took 45 tap water samples from sites in England. Laboratory analysis found that none exceeded the 100ng/l level. 25 samples did contain PFASs, and four had levels that exceeded 10ng/l, which, under the current guidelines, means local healthcare professionals must be consulted, and levels monitored, and almost half of the samples exceeded the European Food Standards.
The DS Authority said that we had safe water standards for one third the a mount of people in the UK, but government people trafficking has means standards had to be dropped to give everyone their tap water
So Boris Johnston before leaving office gave another £300 million for the Ukraine war, yet cant give his own electorate clean drinking water.
” The times they are a changin ” Bob Dylan
Times certainly are changing, ocultists predicted a massive shift
toward whistleblowing after 2012, and they were so right.
When karma comes it can come like a kick in the pants
The might of the US military got their pants kicked out of Afghanistan by a
bunch of farmers some just using guns lefts over from w w 2
then last week Israeli terrorists got a real nice kick in the balls
Info is streaming out of Russia about w w 2
and they threaten to release info on the jewish bolocaust which will destroy israel.
and British politicians have admitted that their mass people traficking operations in to the UK
was a mistake, and the ethnic cleansing of their own British electorate was wrong.
you have to laugh at UK politicians incompetence, importing in milions of muslims
then helping israel bomb muslim countries, incredibe
The latest is the USA will sweep all muslims out of the middle east for israel
and they will come to europe and the UK.
Your political parties did this.
The probability (100 per cent) of this was already stated by aware people on October 8th
It was a Mossad black op, where Israelis dressed up as ‘Hamas terrorists’, attacking their own buildings & ‘kidnapping’ fellow Jews.
Nico called it the day it happened (7 October)
“Desiatnik began her shift at 3:30 a.m. on October 7. It started as normal, she recounted to Kan, but at 6:30 a.m., everything changed.”
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…Didn’t see any headless babies then…
And women being raped.
Looks like you could squeeze through that fence without even having to cut it.
Looks like something farmer Giles would build.
gut ding will weile haben !
good thing needs while .
Here are the possibilities for Hamas on Oct 7th:
1- Hamas is 100% controlled-opposition and fake, they did what their Zionist masters asked them to do.
2- Hamas was lured into a trap to do something that would benefit Zion.
3- Hamas with the help and coordination of its patrons controlled the flow of information and played as if they are fulfilling Zion’s goals but then surprised Zion with a Blitzkrieg.
4- Hamas completely outfoxed Zion without them knowing anything at all and pulled off a Blitzkrieg!
First camp belongs to people like Henry Makow, these are the Jews who play nice and condemn evil and appear to support civilians and values such as family foundation, etc… however they advocate power worship of Zionist Globalists and Zionist Localists. They pay too much attention to symbolism and try to force-connect dots and create prophecies and evidence in favor of Zion’s power. The outcome of their work is that no one has any plan but Jews and the rest of the world are always on the receiving end, all resistance is futile and the only plan at work is that of the evil masters of the world! Makow is saying indirectly that YOU ARE ALL GOYS and Jews are chosen ones! While freemasons and illuminati and Zionist Globalists and by extension Satan has leverage and controlled many aspects of life and altered history, the idea that they are God leads to their worship. Object of worship may not necessarily be loved, it can be feared. This is the deep rooted fear Makow is spreading. Makow is the most dangerous crypto Jew creeping in from power-vacuum.
The in-fighting between Zionists camps is serious, in face of weakness their disagreements arise. Netanyahu backed by hardcore rabbis can’t lose so much (huge loss of face their power aura was shattered) just to wipe Gaza out something they can’t anyway. Ilham Alyev of Baku had a rude awakening after his master showed so much weakness. This does not look like their New Middle East at all.
We can talk about the other possibilities above logically. I believe in number 4 for logical reasons.
my two tomans