Mehul Reuben Das – First Post May 8, 2023
Dmitry Rogozin, the former head of Russia’s Roscosmos space agency, has ruffled some feathers among global astronomy circles. Rogozin has voiced his scepticism on the narrative of whether the US Apollo 11 mission ever landed on the Moon in 1969, claiming that he has yet to see sufficient proof.
In a post on his Telegram channel on Sunday, Rogozin said he began his personal quest for the truth “about ten years ago” when he was still working in the Russian government, and that he became sceptical about whether the Americans had actually set foot on the Moon when he saw how exhausted Soviet cosmonauts looked upon returning from their flights, compared to how seemingly unaffected the Apollo 11 crew appeared.
Rogozin stated that at the time, he addressed requests for evidence to Roscosmos. All he got in return was a book with Soviet Cosmonaut Aleksey Leonov’s story of how he met the American astronauts and learned they had travelled to the Moon.
When he was named head of Roscosmos in 2018, the former official said that he maintained his work. However, no proof was offered to Rogozin, according to him. Instead, he was chastised by numerous anonymous academics for damaging the “sacred cooperation with NASA,” as he claimed.
The former Roscosmos boss also claimed to have “received an angry phone call from a top-ranking official” accusing him of complicated foreign ties.
Rogozin finished by remarking that despite enormous technological advances since the late 1960s, the US was able to carry off the feat but is now unable to do so.
He also claims to have discovered that Washington has “its people in [the Russian] establishment.”
The Apollo 11 mission was the first manned journey to the Moon, with Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin being the first people to walk on the lunar surface.
The unmanned Soviet Luna 2 programme, which paved the way for Moon exploration, came before the trip.
President Vladimir Putin committed in April to restart Russia’s lunar programme.
no proof of covid or the bolocaust either
mossad may be sued for damages for its plague of false flag bombings in the international courts
https://christiansfortruth.com/french-court-convicts-lebanese-man-in-absentia-for-mossads-false-flag-1980-paris-synagogue-bombing/
Yes, this is the NWO Nazi fake news media trope: ‘Did man land and walk on the Moon’?
This is a stick sheeple proposition. The question should be, and is pointed out above, ‘Did Apollo 11 land on the Moon, and did they do a surface walk’?
The answer to this is no. I had a friend who spent some time with Neil Armstrong. My friend told me, ‘Armstrong appeared to carry a huge burden, and that he didn’t carry himself, or talk like a man who had so say, achieved immortality’. My friend believed he was weighed down by this big lie.
Did they land on later missions? Can’t be sure, but here’s the rub
. The US has two space programmes. The white programme, and the black programme.
We know that 98% of UFO sitings, are man made flying objects. We know the German Nazis had anti-gravity flying craft, and be sure, the US and Russia got this kmow how, just like nukes and rocket tech. More evidence that NATO is Nazi Germany under another emblem.
I think the most important evidence, is the external camera, which didn’t exist, and the usual degraded image quality.
The Black Space program has probably been to Mars and it’s moons.
Rogozin can’t talk about the Black programme. His opinion is a political barb.
It’s simple (as it always is with human lies): how did they breath? A diver in the sea needs a heavy big tank of oxygen to breath under the sea for 2 hours. You’ve all seen them. How many such tanks would have to have been on the “spaceships” to the moon? 4 or 5 people for a week. One tank per person for every 2 hours. Where were all these tanks? How much would they have weighed?
And you can say the same for your “space station”. Where is all the oxygen? How are they getting it “up there”?
All human lies are obvious if you just sit and think for yourself about what the liar actually said.
“Why don’t the Russians say something about it…” is an often repeated phrase by the Apollo narrative enforcers…
This and other things should lead to an exploration not of space but the relationship and nature of so called “nation states”. The “nuke” issue is another of these mutually agreed lies.
There is reason to believe that the Russians lied about some of their space “achievements”. Notably Yuri Gagarin. Not only may he have been just a frontman for someone else, but it is likely the first cosmonaut to orbit the earth was another Russian who crash landed in China. There was an Amazon video on this. I’ve just tried to find the info again, but the search algorithms have really gone against genuine alternative thinking in the last decade….
The Russian were “first” to send (poor) pictures back of the far side of the moon. This is something I question. They contain the images of what may be the initial deceit that NASA has had to vindicate with “improved” photography. I believe the Russian images as well as NASA’s far side images are worthy of scrutiny. I hypothesise that no space craft — manned or unmanned —as ventured to the moon or even around it. Consequently, I believe the images of the “far side” are worthy of some scrutiny by those interested in this subject. I have a map of the moon and the purported far side on my wall that I occasionally look at and wonder if there are any traces of a deceit within the imagery…
By the same token I believe all supposed imagery of the planets in the solar system are either CGI or telescopic pictures. It is interesting that there are no or very very few pictures of Voyager looking back towards the sun with a planet in the foreground. There is of course a purported picture of this I have seen.
Within the Voyager mythos is the idea of “sling shotting” it around planets to keep it going further than it would have otherwise done. I have always found this a fanciful idea, and one that astronomy buffs can recite to their awestruck listeners in the bar room. To me, “sling shotting” is another sci fi idea that only Captain Picard can pull off.
The unfortunate “flat earth” meme has intruded upon space scepticism and is used by mainstream enforce to strawman all of us who have questions. It is very unfortunate that people who promote flat earth — and I believe most may be genuine — are acting as useful idiots for the establishment. Flat earth is an establishment idea cultivated as part of the controlled opposition to NASA.
(As an aside, I believe while antigravity technology has been developed and hidden or misrepresented as “alien”, antigravity propulsion only has provenance within a gravitational field and cannot be leveraged for space flight where it is has nothing to push against.)
How do you walk on a “LIGHT ???”
Genesis 1:16.
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when EVERYTHING the American public believes is false.”
William Casey, CIA Director 1981-1987.
“EVERYTHING” includes the “Globe model.”
You can prove this issue for yourself, put water into your bath, try to make the water curve or tilt, the water is “Always level.”
The puddle is level.
The pond is level.
The stream is level.
The swimming pool is level.
The lake is level.
The river is level.
The sea is level.
The ocean is level.
Water is always level.
The tea in the cup is level.
The coffee in the mug is level.
The beer in the glass is level.
It is that simple.
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1 Timothy 6:20.
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, AND OPPOSITIONS OF SCIENCE FALSELY SO CALLED.
John 8:44.
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Most of the people at the top of society (the ruling class) are satanists, (they make no secret of this) they know for a cast iron fact that the Earth is flat, they lie to us and say that we live on a “Spinning ball” which at the same time is hurtling through an endless space.
They teach the lie of a globe model as it discredits the Word of God, there could NOT of been a worldwide flood in the days of Noah, if we lived on a spinning ball – where would the water come from ???
https://www.bitchute.com/video/7qAJfWTUYb89/
Rogozin is an individual, not necessarily very intelligent, or committed to getting the truth about particular questions
If Putin did commit to a Russian lunar program it’s probably to bait the US with its lofty ideas of prestige into starting a new space program of its own that will finally bankrupt it.
With all of the information and/or opinions coming out on this topic over the last couple of decades, I am not sure what I think. By that I mean whether this “moon landing” is legit. I will say that it is noteworthy that most of those involved are Freemasons, and high-ranking Masons at that. As should be known, the Masons swear blood oaths to not reveal their knowledge (hidden knowledge, or Gnosticism in reality), which surpasses any and all loyalties (to family, nation, etc.). So if it DID actually happen, what was discovered? What did they stumble upon? If not, why the charade? Why didn’t other nations expose the fraud immediately?
Unless, it was to their advantage to wait….. What disturbs me most, I think, is regardless of which “side” is true, is that either way, the vast sums of monies, resources, efforts and time would have been better spent helping humanity as a whole. Clothing and feeding the poor. Public improvement works. Bringing legitimate arts, literature, music, etc. to impoverished peoples. We all should understand why those things didn’t happen then and aren’t happening now. Back to your state-approved grind plebes! You’ve been slacking too much here at this unsanctioned site! Remember! Big Brother knows!
1965 scientist claims the moon is plasma
Among R Foster’s theories was that the moon was in fact made of plasma, not rock, and that landing on it would not be possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhIwZuPGfss
Hahahahaha ‘the moon landings’…puts Jackanory too shame!
Funny how all those moon-rocks that Apollo supposedly “brought back” were either “lost” or turned out to be limestone…. ain’t it???
😂
I think Mr. Rogozin certainly has a valid point.
As the evidence and footage that has seeped out over the last few decades or so. Have partially pointed to the fact that there are some serious descrepancies over the legitamacy of some of the footage forwarded by NASA.
My feeling is that this kind of goes two ways.
One is that the Mission to the Moon in late July 1969 seen live by the public on TV was faked and recorded in a film studio to fool the general public. Whilst two with the real manned Mission to the Moon being conducted in secret. So that the general public would never fully see what the NASA Astronauts on Appollo 11 encountered or witnessed. With all the astronauts of the mission being swarn to complete secrecy.
Otherwise just think….why is that NASA has never supposedly set foot on the Moon since 1971?
Of course no one landed on the moon. It’s 73 miles up in the sky, along with the sun and it isn’t a solid object. It’s something that people don’t know what it is. However, the whole charade is continually promoted in order to make people believe they’ve been to outer space. There is no outer ‘space’ there’s outer ‘water’. We live in a bubble. We always have lived in a bubble.
What Rogozin doesn’t tell you is that the Russkies faked most of their space programme too…
Of course they can still manufacture a German rocket which is more than can be said for the Yangees… and of course they managed to avoid the embarrassment of having to excuse mendacity with mealy mouthed nonsense..
such as..
“we no longer have the technology to got to the Moon” …or “we have lost all the telemetry data for mans greatest achievement”..or “yes those moon rocks are fossilized wood from Planet Earth”…etc etc..
NB: l should imagine the lndian and Chinese space programmes are fake as well…
Well..they have to be don’t they?… So one should avoid absurdities because atrocity swiftly follows…
No comment needed, except “Clownworld.”
Imagine his shock when he realizes the Earth is flat…. That will be a shocking revelation…. Yes, Washington has its people in the russian establishment and in the chinese establishment. THEY KNOW THE WORLD IS FLAT. They knew when they signed the Antarctica treaty….
If you want to read some eye opening stuff about the “moon landing” lol go read the comment section on this Laurent Guyénot on unz.com article:
https://www.unz.com/article/how-lbj-mooned-america/?showcomments#comments
I posted mucho comments like the size of the earth as viewed from the moon.
The moon and earth are relatively close to one another, which is why the moon appears to be huge in sky. If you were standing on the moon, the earth would appear really huge.
(the distance is the same between moon to earth regardless of which object you view)
The earth would appear in width as 4 moons across, or 16 moons clustered together. The sky was suppossedly black with no stars, and overhead would be this huge blue marble – it would be absolutely surreal.
But our astroNOTs never took a selfie with the earth in background, or aimed their camera at the moon
the reason why is that they were in a studio and not on the moon.
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THE MOON BUGGY AXLE OIL LEAK and the rover with no wheel tracks
(3 different moon missions, same oil leak)
Comment # 442 Yukon Jack says:
December 29, 2021 at 7:14 pm GMT • 200 Words
@Justvisiting
The moon buggy oil leak – same axle leak on 3 missions (left rear wheel):
Apollo 15 AS15-88-11901 (left)—–Apollo 16 AS16-107-17445 (cent)—Apollo17 AS17-146-22296 (right)
My dad was a Chief Engineer at McDonnel/Douglas, first working on the Saturn 5 stage, then later, the Moon Rover project.
Long story short:
“No one went to the moon” he often said.
That it took so long for even a single voice of reason to emerge from the cacophony of lies and disinformation speaks more the Russia’s partnership and collusion with the US et alia. Perhaps in another 20 years Russia will allude to the truth about what it knows about 9-11. I shall not hold my breath.
The best series written on the alleged moon landings come from the late and excellent researcher Dave McGowan.
https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/moondoggie/
It should be a must read for anyone interested in dismantling that fraud.
But all during this war between Russia and Ukraine, with Biden blowing up Nord Stream gas lines, demanding that Putin be removed, supplying Zelensky with countless billions in military/financial aid…Russia and the United States have been blasting off into space together. This space co-operation is vital and will continue until 2030.
Believe it! They are still going into space together and if you don’t believe it, just ask Jarl Cones, Jucon Yack and jewis loans! They will set you right. Don’t trust those nutters who tell you the whole thing is fake, they are all flat-earthers even if they tell you the earth is round every time they post! Those no nookes, no space telescopes, no satellites kooks are just a bunch of naazees. Who cares if some of them can write like Evelyn Waugh, learn trig in a weekend, teach themselves calculus and were at this as kids! All you have to do is say Jesus was a Jew, Hitler a hebe, the sun will micro-nova, the magnetic poles will reverse, space aliens are on the way and NASA flew by asteroids, put probes on Pluto! It works every time and make sure you post every day and with every article because you are special! Your opinion matters.
Think of it, our countries are being turned into multicultural toilet bowls, the sons of Adam are being hunted to extinction by the spawn of Cain. You still say Putin is the man and Ruskies landed a surveyor on Venus in the late sixties. Watch out for those nuclear tipped hypersonic Zircon missles.
Well then, carry on.
I dare you Rixon to publish this photo:
https://i.imgur.com/cNOmWPL.jpeg
The official NASA closeup photo of the moon buggy wheel WITH NO WHEEL TRACK
but you can seen the astronot moon boot tracks.
“So how is it there are no tracks next to the wheels? Simple, you are on a set, and the technicians who stage the set needed to erase their prints, so they blow the dust smooth erasing their prints then have some moon boot prints put down last before the photo shoot. They do this in Hollywood all the time.”
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On three different moon missions, the rover has the SAME OIL LEAK:
Apollo 15 AS15-88-11901 (left)—–Apollo 16 AS16-107-17445 (cent)—Apollo17 AS17-146-22296 (right)
https://www.aulis.com/imagesfurther/rover15,16,17oil.jpg
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THE BIGGEST JOKE OF ALL IS THE PAPER MACHE MOON LANDER
https://wiki.tfes.org/images/8/85/AS11-40-5922HR.jpg
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I double dare you Rixon to publish these photos – lolrofl
It was all faked folks, the photos don’t lie!
How can that be? Because the rover is a prop, and the moon walk on different moon missions are using the same props. The moon rover is a cheaply made prop with an oil leak.
And researchers have shown conclusively that the props age with the moon missions – because they were left out in the Arizona desert where they filmed the moon rover.
The craters on the moon were made by explosive charges on a set.
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Comment #486 – same moon background on different moon missions:
https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:800/1*FhsdgiGnG-Ks3mQcEbVQOg.jpeg
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see comment # (and you can search the comment section by comment #)
https://www.unz.com/article/how-lbj-mooned-america/?showcomments#comment-5090869
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comment #1022 How I became a moon skeptic.
see comment #483 – Space Shuttle Challenger astronauts still alive
https://www.bitchute.com/video/4YZb4HPFStGi/
see comment #374 – NASA Mars mission on earth – in the official NASA photo is an arctic lemming
https://i1.wp.com/steverotter.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/mars-rover-photo.png?w=751&ssl=1
The Saturn V weighted app. 2000 tons and lifted a payload off app. 50 tons direction moon with a speed of app. 30.000 km/h to leave earth orbit. This is a weight/payload ratio of 1 to 40. Because the moon has no atmosphere aerobraking is impossible and thus braking must be done using fuel which is weight and provided by the weight of rocket structure. The lunar module is said to have weighted 15 tons and shall have stood with a speed of zero km/h on the surface of the moon. Therefore it should have used up given a ratio of 1/40 a weight of 600 tons to brake it from 30.000 km to zero.
please some body explain to carl jones
that we fought the natzis from 19539 to 1945
the Uk did this as it was turning communist as everybody exccpt him knows
thanks.
When I was 8, maybe nine, we were staying with my Nana in Dwygyfylchi, and I was a child of the space race. I stayed up through the night watching events unfold. My Nana, the following day, paced about her home, muttering ‘it’s all filmed in a studio.’
How right she was, and maybe this is where I get my truth seeking skills from… lol
Simon Smith: why I am responding to you, God only knows.
Anti gravity offers huge advantages in outer space travel. If your craft weighs effectively nothing, or very little, and and anti gravity propulsion, or extra propulsion, you are going to achieve some very high velocities.
Nuclear propulsion works in space and so does ion drive and they have others as well. The most problematic aspect of space travel, is getting into space.
This is the best compilation of honest research that I’ve found on the subject:
https://www.aulis.com/investigation.htm
Some of those papers there are by Russian scientists; they help provide some perspective on the politics of how this hoax started and why the foolishness has persisted for so long.
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Yukon Jack: yes, in a studio, but likely, as they needed content, but can’t generate quality content on the Moon.
So studio content still doesn’t mean they never landed. Me, I think the Black Space Programme did the landings.
Bob Smith: fecking disgusting. I don’t often, if I ever have, suggest a fecking thicko sheeple like you, get banned.
You should never put your words in someone else’s mouth.
However, it is amusing, the editor does all he can to limit debate, but does nothing to stop vankers like you.
Not seen a bigger load of bad comments than this at TTS, but I do not need to repair, because it is all on the internet, and people do not listen in any case
Help, “the official faith” is under attack. We simply cannot disbelieve in the moon landings, not just to preserve awe in US scientific prowess based on all that technology can do and money can buy, but mainly because it is necessary that we continue dutifully to believe in the official dogma of the entire New World Order bible – the entirety of which was hatched in pragmatic, thinktank emersions under the auspices of the international banking cartel some 40 years ago.
It is not just a matter of national security and loyalty to everything Amurikan at stake, it is holy “sustainability” regarding all of the official narratives which the ruling moguls say we have to believe in with all our hearts and all our souls. It is not just what would happen to the America image if the rest of the world were to discover that no one has yet been able to send a human being through the Van Allen radiation belt, much less even a living vegetable into the completely unprotected solar radiation winds of deep space and come back alive. No, neither the Americans, the Russians, nor the Chinese have managed to do that, and if the sheeple were to know then they would likely no longer believe so easily in all of the other massive deceptions, psyops, and official narratives irradiated and pummeled into their brains from the back hole of the ruling world cabal. If the official narrative of the moon landings were to be officially debunked, the masses would tend to disbelieve in all official narratives including, the peril of manmade climate change, 9/11, pandemics, the debt bomb, population peril, contrived wars, and the world in crisis because of cow farts.
The most pragmatic and practical thing is in fact belief in and a connection to what is true, real, good and loving but that which is so great it is beyond our understanding. However, once you settle for a pragmatism without the moral restraints of a faith that does that, that which transforms what is dark and corrupted into what is good and loving, then you end up as a corrupt nation and a people living in darkness where the only real rules in operation are that “the ends justify the means”, and “might makes right”.
We all yearn to believe in what is true but our temporal interests always intrude, and that is when we start to rely on false beliefs. Words, symbols, reason and understanding like math can point the right way to what is real but are always limited and perhaps filtered by our own little Van Allen belts so that we do not fry our minds in things far beyond our capacity. However, if we have the right orientation, the right star, or source to focus upon upon, in a love and trust relationship it is only then we are able to go beyond our selves..
“Space – The final frontier” is also a bit of a narrow concept for it is very much of a materialist, or monist one, because what we see in temporal space is only a fraction of the spiritual dimensions around us which are even far more scary than cosmic radiations or even form some alien beings out there. For whatever this comment is worth to whomever may read it, the truth is that we will never progress in any dimension until we start sharing what is known and true based on our reason, perceptions, and true beliefs with one another, and stop perverting truth and reality with our lies, deceptions, fake narratives, mainly in order to advanced in wealth, stature, or dominance over others.
Remember the astronuts doing their moon walk?
apollo astronauts were suspended from guy wires in a studio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz9Bzi_GyD0
Wake the hell up – the Apollo footage was filmed in a studio!
Apollo Astronots – puppets on a string video:
https://odysee.com/@Rigg5:3/Apollo-Moon-Hoax—Puppet-on-a-String:b
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https://odysee.com/$/search?q=moon%20hoax
Lots of good videos on Apollo fakery at Bitchute:
https://www.bitchute.com/search/?query=apollo&kind=video
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https://odysee.com/@r0g3rTh3L0g3r:f/lunarLander:a
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Hillarious commentary on fake moon lander by Antonio Subirats:
https://odysee.com/@farnesius:4/nasalunacylander:5
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Flat Earther Eric Dubay (faggot cross dresser CIA faker) actually made a copycat video on the paper mache moon lander – he literally copied Antonio Subirat commetary.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/3dXwQAlQ3828/
(((be advised; Eric Dubay is an outspoken flat earthtard – and is intentionally destroying the credibility of apollo hoax researchers)))
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My favorite moon hoax conspiracy – the astronots never took selfies of the earth from the moon. They were in a studio, and overhead were lights and studio moon walk suspension hardware.
This is a biggie overlooked by everyone, the earth as viewed from the moon would appear huge – and it would be the only thing in the black sky. The earth would be 4 moon diameters.
Music videos mocking moon landing hoax:
Imagine Dragons – On Top Of The World (Official Music Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5tWYmIOWGk
Rammstein – Amerika (Official Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr8ljRgcJNM
Note – in Rammstein’s video they show the astronots taking a photo earth in background – which they never did during the Apollo missions.
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This one is classic – the LEM (lunar lander) blasts off from moon with NO ROCKET FLAME (it should be bright red according to Bill Kaysing)
advance to 2:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj6a0Wrrh1g
The camera (on the moon) pans back and up (how did it do that?) but no flame
@Carl Jones
“Simon Smith: why I am responding to you, God only knows.”
Because you are a gentleman? 🙂
“Anti-gravity offers huge advantages in outer space travel. If your craft weighs effectively nothing, or very little, and anti-gravity propulsion, or extra propulsion, you are going to achieve some very high velocities.”
When I jump off the ground I avail myself of antigravity. Not a sustained amount of course, I need to jump again…I’m pushing off SOMETHING…
“Nuclear propulsion works in space and so does ion drive and they have others as well. The most problematic aspect of space travel, is getting into space.”
I do believe nuclear energy has been used as part of the propulsion system. I would cite several cases of inadvertent spectators gaining radiation burns.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/falcon-lake-incident-book-anniversary-1.4121639
But not in the sense of the nuclear explosive kind that you believe in. I believe they simply use nuclear reactors like on submarines. As far as the antigravity technology is concerned, there is obviously some requirement to turn some sort of electromagnetic device – hence the iconic saucer revolutions.
In respect of antigravity, we both believe that Germany pioneered the technology. So let’s at least drink to the possibility that if we were in a bar together we might prefer each other’s company to that of hundreds of others…
Incidentally, I regard Henry Stevens as the authority on German antigravity. He wrote “Hitler’s Flying Saucers”. Among other things he demonstrated the earthly provenance of the WWII Foo Fighters. He is NEVER cited by the TV UFO programmes; I watch these to deconstruct their disinformational content.
I must also mention there is a lot of disinformation about German flying saucers. The so called Haunebu models are a fraud and can be traced to the hoaxing of the (in)famous “contactee” Adamski. I know there are very enticing videos with blueprints of supposed models, but the Haunebu — from Adamski — was shown by Joel Carpenter to be the top of a gas lantern. I emailed Andrew Johnson to tell him that the front of his book cover carrying the Haunebu fraud, but the arrogant so and so, in “top table” mode, just emailed me a link to his book. If you have a “website” and talk a lot, you can apparently act like this…
My hesitation in ascribing antigravity to non-terrestrial flight is that we know many craft —from saucers in the 50’s to black triangles in the 90s — have been seen. Some UFOs I also believe may be holographic – perhaps the “Phoenix Lights”…. I don’t know of any empirical evidence for non-orbital antigravity craft. True, it would be harder to verify this… There are questionable videos purportedly showing rapid movements from either the space shuttle or ISS, but they do not show physical forms and I suspect they may be bubbles in a tank…
I cannot say I’m absolutely certain as to my assertion on antigravity propulsion in space, but referencing some of the phonier claims of German achievements, there is a claim made by the Haunebu citers that the Third Reich sent a flying saucer to Mars. I don’t believe this and so would put into my basket of corroborating evidence for my assertion that antigravity is not a spacefaring technology…and perhaps since we both agree as to the falsity of “nuts and bolts” alien visitation, the ET psyop obviously enforces the spacefaring narrative…so any narrative the mainstream tries and carries — while comically asserting it is non-mainstream and governments are covering up etc — persuades me further that antigravity is purely terrestrial.
I’m not necessarily 100 % convinced of my assertion on the non-space faring nature of antigravity. I would love to be proved wrong. I do wonder that if it exists as an interstellar mode of transport why — even allowing for the obfuscation of the technology by denial and indirectly by ascribing to ET — it wouldn’t have impacted society in a way that it would be hard to cover up.
I believe some of your thinking on the moon landing may have been informed by the excellent debunking of it by the film “What Happened On The Moon” where a dark project that fulfilled a moon landing with other technology. This was a claim made by them that they left in the air without any further substantiation that I’m aware of.
I’m afraid ion drive is something I have hitherto not explored.
Now I have my say
No moon landing
The liars from the northern hemisphere
Mystic and yogi
Acknowledging the the absurd moon landing hoax is used as a limited hangout to protect the greater deception that the whole space program is fake as well as the concept of outer space itself. We live in a closed system with the firmament above – a giant planetarium / terrarium / aquarium. No big bang , no endless vacuum of space with trillions of galaxies , black holes , neutron stars , dark matter etc. All science fiction. No difference between what NASA shows you and an episode of Star Trek.
Watch this and you’ll see that stars are not distant suns and planets are not terra firma entities like Earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FI7gvdkkQ0
Note in this zoom camera video that the stars and planets are much larger in camera optics than seen with naked eye. With naked eye stars are specks of light. If stars are trillions or quadrillions of miles away you wouldn’t be able to zoom in and enlarge them in your optics. You’re only increasing magnification a tiny fraction of 1% of the distance if those distances claimed are accurate. They should still appear a speck in zoom camera. This is irrefutable evidence that the luminaries you see in the sky are very close
Watch the beacon flashing on a high altitude plane at night, then look at the stars. It’s obvious the stars on not much further up than the plane. The plane is 5 miles up , maybe the stars are 50 or 100 miles up. Only endless indoctrination has the public. believing those distances.
To all the antigravity pushers, the universe is electric. Gravity (magnetism) is a byproduct of the electric fields. The four states of matter, solid, liquid, gas and plasma allow the electricity to flow around the universe. Thus, the word anti-gravity is restricting and confining peoples though rather than expanding understanding. There is likely craft that can travel along/ within the electric fields.
Perhaps I should reduce my medication..
Human space travel nothing more than the “illusory truth effect”.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”-Joseph Goebbels (NAZI/NASDAP Minister of Propaganda).
“If you believe they put a man on the moon…”
Actually, people who claim that the Apollo missions are hoaxes, but the Earth is a ball and “Flat Earth” is a psyop, are the real gatekeepers, the real psyop themselves… What they are doing is a “limited handout” of the truth, they are essentially saying to you “alright, you are smart enough to challenge the official narrative, so we are throwing you a bone or two, but don’t you dare question the shape of the Earth you are walking on every day”. The Earth is Flat people, it is FLAT, you can walk on top of it right now and see for yourselves…. You have never had any proof that it is anything but flat, but for some reason just can’t accept this fact.
@Simon Smith
“Flat earth is an establishment idea cultivated as part of the controlled opposition to NASA.”
The belief in the Earth being a plane goes back thousands of years and held until the “Enlightenment”. How long has NASA been around?
@ White Elephant on May 8, 2023 at 1:04 pm
Sir, I 100% concur with your views on this subject.
@Chesterton
” So one should avoid absurdities because atrocity swiftly follows…”
Wonderful comment.
Yukon Jack–the Earth from the moon would appear the size of six thumb-nails at arm’s length, not “huge”
The only thing NASA ever took to space is human imagination.
Just a couple of simple points for those who haven’t done their homework. Observe divergent rays of light from the sun (especially marked when passing through cloud ) – this indicates a local sun which is within our atmosphere. If the sun were outside the atmosphere and far away all the suns rays in our atmosphere would be parallel. Calling them some silly name – crepuscular – doesn’t change this simple fact. Observe the moon at night and how it illuminates clouds closest to it. This indicates a local moon within our atmosphere . If the moon were outside and far away its light would illuminate all the clouds in the sky. There are really soooo many ways to disprove the globe. (eg flight paths in S “Hemisphere”) Anyone who does their homework will realize: 1. The earth is immovable – it cannot be moved 2. The earth is the centre of the universe 3. The earth is flat. The truth will set you free. I notice the slow learners complaining about the comments…. Lol
I tentatively suggest that the fact of inertia proves the existence of the ether. If you have a fifty-ton weight on a rope, what stops you pushing it? For a free-energy machine, you need an ether shield, so that it takes almost no energy to move a thing
And how could one forget the radiant and visibly heartfelt joy as expressed by Aldrin, Collins, and Armstrong, during their first post ‘moon walk’ press conference? Complete SHAM!
Where is my comment Rixon?
@Felix
“To all the antigravity pushers, the universe is electric. Gravity (magnetism) is a byproduct of the electric fields. The four states of matter, solid, liquid, gas and plasma allow the electricity to flow around the universe. Thus, the word anti-gravity is restricting and confining peoples though rather than expanding understanding. There is likely craft that can travel along/ within the electric fields.
Perhaps I should reduce my medication..”
You are correct, but you have your semantic knickers in a twist 🙂 There is always someone to fall out with on word definitions even if there is an underlying fundamental agreement….
I wouldn’t describe myself as an “antigravity pusher”, but a flying saucer may well be…
I have written about this multiple times, including on the Thunderbolts Project videos where Wal Thornhill expertly describes gravity or antigravity as an emergent property of electrostatic interaction…
@Dan
Liquid oxygen is 860 times as dense as oxygen at atmospheric pressure. Air is one fifth oxygen.
A cursory scuba evaluation reveals the following: when air is compressed to 3000 psi in a half of a cubic foot space (as in a large scuba tank), the tank contains a little over 100 cubic feet of air at atmospheric pressure: which means about 80 minutes worth. Note that only about 1/4 of the oxygen is used during each breath from the scuba tank. This once-through, under-water breathing scenario is not really applicable for a situation where oxygen is being replenished to 20% concentration in an enclosed space.
A way of calculating human oxygen requirements (more applicable to the continuous replenishment scenario) is to use is to use the thumb rule of 100 gallons of oxygen per person per day. There are 7.5 gallons per cubic foot or 3.75 gallons per one half of a cubic foot. In this case (860 x 3.75), there are 3225 equivalent gallons of oxygen in a one half cubic foot tank. That is enough for one human for over a month. Note that the waste products from human breathing, notably carbon dioxide, would have to be removed as the oxygen is being replenished.
This info neither confirms nor denies the proposition of actual human visitation to the moon.
@Tony O’Neil
The belief in the Earth being a plane goes back thousands of years and held until the “Enlightenment”. How long has NASA been around?
The Greek Aristarchus in the third century BC is known to have argued for a sun centred solar system. There is a sense however in which the earth as the centre can be reclaimed as an idea. If the universe is infinite and eternal — as I believe — and represents the physical aspect of “God” then every point in space including the earth, you, me, an ant or an elephant, or a rock on Mars, is at the “centre of the universe.”
The ancient pre-flood civilisations, thanks to the work of such as Graham Hancock, are known to have plotted the precession of the equinoxes based on what can only have been the heliocentric model. The geocentric model was championed by the Ptolemaic astronomers a few centuries later than Aristarchus and needed much more intricate mathematics. These contortions did suit the Christian Church as any indication of hierarchy was in also in line with their political model. If you can claim special divinity for an individual from whose authority you claim supremacy, the “special place” of the earth — along with its flatness — underlines a “nice” hierarchical universe in which we must all “know our place”.
Having said that it is with great humility I reflect that God in his infinite wisdom has bequeathed upon me a special place on the TTS website as someone is right all the time when others are wrong (*)
Like with many subjects I find the reasons why people believe things more interesting than the nuts and bolts …but speaking of nuts and bolts, I think a simple thought experiment based on simple trigonometry challenges the flat earth:
Let’s us agree that there are lines of longitude. For us “ball earthers” ( 😊) this is easy. For “flat earthers”, I believe you can conceive of lines running from the centre of the North Pole to Antarctica. So we may agree upon that.
The motion of the sun relative to the earth as we perceive it can be agreed upon as well. For us “ballers” we say sun-rise and use it as a figure of speech.
Let us measure the altitude in degrees of the sun from different places on a line of longitude at an agreed time. Perhaps we have different colleagues on say the Greenwich Meridian, from the North Pole going southwards to Antarctica. Each can use a sextant at an agreed time, say 12 noon.
Now, I believe White Elephant has said the sun is something like 73 miles above. I understand in the FE model that it circles around parallel to the surface of the earth.
(I need to emphasise I am not trying to misrepresent the FE model. If there are other variants of FE — and I believe this to be the case — the inability to come up with an agreed theory is concerning. Only a singular clear hypothesis should be used, otherwise there might be a FE model for every different subscriber to the FE model and no debate becomes possible because the goalposts continually move. I do respect the resolute defending of an idea by those who believe in the FE, but I would ask you to also present a consistent model between you.)
So we as “ball earthers” would describe earth’s rotation as the reason for our changing perspective of the sun. “Flat earthers” too, I understand, account for the apparent difference in altitude due to differences in latitude.
Once again, we may agree on lines of latitude as connecting the same places on the earth whether it be flat or an oblate sphere.
These difference in altitude measured by our observers at different latitudes actually tally trigonometry wise with the globe model rather than the sun as at x miles directly above the earth. I once made the mistake of saying to an “expert” FE arguer that this “proved it”. He rapped an epistemological ruler across my knuckles and said something like “proof exists in maths and not reality”. What he said was true of course. It all comes down to belief in the end.
But I would suggest the philosophical tool of Occam’s Razor as ever applies here too. How likely is it in a large universe that we are specially endowed with a flat surface surrounded by a panorama of not so much planets and their apparent motion attributable to spherical planets but in some indefinable fish tank that contrives to show this attributable universe in such a way as to “test our faith” and ensure we trust among other things the geographical/astronomical pronouncements, in as far as they can be correctly translated, to an ancient book?
@Tony O’Neil
The belief in the Earth being a plane goes back thousands of years and held until the “Enlightenment”. How long has NASA been around?
The Greek Aristarchus in the third century BC is known to have argued for a sun centred solar system. There is a sense however in which the earth as the centre can be reclaimed as an idea. If the universe is infinite and eternal — as I believe — and represents the physical aspect of “God” then every point in space including the earth, you, me, an ant or an elephant, or a rock on Mars, is at the “centre of the universe.”
The ancient pre-flood civilisations, thanks to the work of such as Graham Hancock, are known to have plotted the precession of the equinoxes based on what can only have been the heliocentric model. The geocentric model was championed by the Ptolemaic astronomers a few centuries later than Aristarchus and needed much more intricate mathematics. These contortions did suit the Christian Church as any indication of hierarchy was in also in line with their political model. If you can claim special divinity for an individual from whose authority you claim supremacy, the “special place” of the earth — along with its flatness — underlines a “nice” hierarchical universe in which we must all “know our place”.
Having said that it is with great humility I reflect that God in his infinite wisdom has bequeathed upon me a special place on the TTS website as someone is right all the time when others are wrong (*)
Like with many subjects I find the reasons why people believe things more interesting than the nuts and bolts …but speaking of nuts and bolts, I think a simple thought experiment based on simple trigonometry challenges the flat earth:
Let’s us agree that there are lines of longitude. For us “ball earthers” ( 😊) this is easy. For “flat earthers”, I believe you can conceive of lines running from the centre of the North Pole to Antarctica. So we may agree upon that.
The motion of the sun relative to the earth as we perceive it can be agreed upon as well. For us “ballers” we say sun-rise and use it as a figure of speech.
Let us measure the altitude in degrees of the sun from different places on a line of longitude at an agreed time. Perhaps we have different colleagues on say the Greenwich Meridian, from the North Pole going southwards to Antarctica. Each can use a sextant at an agreed time, say 12 noon.
Now, I believe White Elephant has said the sun is something like 73 miles above. I understand in the FE model that it circles around parallel to the surface of the earth.
(I need to emphasise I am not trying to misrepresent the FE model. If there are other variants of FE — and I believe this to be the case — the inability to come up with an agreed theory is concerning. Only a singular clear hypothesis should be used, otherwise there might be a FE model for every different subscriber to the FE model and no debate becomes possible because the goalposts continually move. I do respect the resolute defending of an idea by those who believe in the FE, but I would ask you to also present a consistent model between you.)
So we as “ball earthers” would describe earth’s rotation as the reason for our changing perspective of the sun. “Flat earthers” too, I understand, account for the apparent difference in altitude due to differences in latitude.
Once again, we may agree on lines of latitude as connecting the same places on the earth whether it be flat or an oblate sphere.
These difference in altitude measured by our observers at different latitudes actually tally trigonometry wise with the globe model rather than the sun as at x miles directly above the earth. I once made the mistake of saying to an “expert” FE arguer that this “proved it”. He rapped an epistemological ruler across my knuckles and said something like “proof exists in maths and not reality”. What he said was true of course. It all comes down to belief in the end.
But I would suggest the philosophical tool of Occam’s Razor as ever applies here too. How likely is it in a large universe that we are specially endowed with a flat surface surrounded by a panorama of not so much planets and their apparent motion attributable to spherical planets but in some indefinable fish tank that contrives to show this attributable universe in such a way as to “test our faith” and ensure we trust among other things the geographical/astronomical pronouncements, in as far as they can be correctly translated, to an ancient book?
[(*) From earlier. I jest of course)]
And the age of NASA is as irrelevant to the argument as the price of potatoes. We know they are liars. And this is my point, they try and taint genuine scepticism by association with the FE model. Even YouTube have got in the act by making sure that all Apollo questioning high on their search algorithm return lists is attributable to FE proponents rather than us “ballers”…
[(*) From earlier. I jest of course)]
Apologies…
I double posted this and cocked it up…this is how God laughs at our “cleverness” 🙂
@Simon Smith the moon nonsense is obvviously a pile of old donkey bollocks!! yet is given credence on here and elsewhere as a did they? or didnt they?
could it not also be the case that the psyop bit is putting “flat Earth out there for the purpose of ridiculing people? why do most people go absolutely potty over FE “retards” and yet have endless arguments regarding fake moon landing nonsense that is plainly fake?
never mind nasas greenscreen shows and endless CGI cartoons what about the clown that explains we would go back in a nanosecond but we lost the technology and the bost was they did using the computing capacity of an early nokia cell fone FFS does any one imagine that America would pass up the opportunity to have a moon bristling with missiles from which they really could “rule the world” and “Flat Earthers” are the looney tunes?? posting as is sans punctuation,bfore the page disappears to down stairs as has happened to my last 3 comments! grrr
This is either the first post or a triple post. If triple, please consider it as a Fred B style page scrolling finger exercise, and forgive me 🙂 I sometimese think “God” may be some dour Scotsman who laughs at we mere mortals inability to “edit” our lives….but if said man in the clouds sees fit to tidy up his universe and answer my prayer, He may edit and tidy up according to His will 🙂
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@Tony O’Neil
The belief in the Earth being a plane goes back thousands of years and held until the “Enlightenment”. How long has NASA been around?
The Greek Aristarchus in the third century BC is known to have argued for a sun centred solar system. There is a sense however in which the earth as the centre can be reclaimed as an idea. If the universe is infinite and eternal — as I believe — and represents the physical aspect of “God” then every point in space including the earth, you, me, an ant or an elephant, or a rock on Mars, is at the “centre of the universe.”
The ancient pre-flood civilisations, thanks to the work of such as Graham Hancock, are known to have plotted the precession of the equinoxes based on what can only have been the heliocentric model. The geocentric model was championed by the Ptolemaic astronomers a few centuries later than Aristarchus and needed much more intricate mathematics. These contortions did suit the Christian Church as any indication of hierarchy was in also in line with their political model. If you can claim special divinity for an individual from whose authority you claim supremacy, the “special place” of the earth — along with its flatness — underlines a “nice” hierarchical universe in which we must all “know our place”.
Having said that it is with great humility I reflect that God in his infinite wisdom has bequeathed upon me a special place on the TTS website as someone is right all the time when others are wrong (*)
Like with many subjects I find the reasons why people believe things more interesting than the nuts and bolts …but speaking of nuts and bolts, I think a simple thought experiment based on simple trigonometry challenges the flat earth:
Let’s us agree that there are lines of longitude. For us “ball earthers” ( 😊) this is easy. For “flat earthers”, I believe you can conceive of lines running from the centre of the North Pole to Antarctica. So we may agree upon that.
The motion of the sun relative to the earth as we perceive it can be agreed upon as well. For us “ballers” we say sun-rise and use it as a figure of speech.
Let us measure the altitude in degrees of the sun from different places on a line of longitude at an agreed time. Perhaps we have different colleagues on say the Greenwich Meridian, from the North Pole going southwards to Antarctica. Each can use a sextant at an agreed time, say 12 noon.
Now, I believe White Elephant has said the sun is something like 73 miles above. I understand in the FE model that it circles around parallel to the surface of the earth.
(I need to emphasise I am not trying to misrepresent the FE model. If there are other variants of FE — and I believe this to be the case — the inability to come up with an agreed theory is concerning. Only a singular clear hypothesis should be used, otherwise there might be a FE model for every different subscriber to the FE model and no debate becomes possible because the goalposts continually move. I do respect the resolute defending of an idea by those who believe in the FE, but I would ask you to also present a consistent model between you.)
So we as “ball earthers” would describe earth’s rotation as the reason for our changing perspective of the sun. “Flat earthers” too, I understand, account for the apparent difference in altitude due to differences in latitude.
Once again, we may agree on lines of latitude as connecting the same places on the earth whether it be flat or an oblate sphere.
These difference in altitude measured by our observers at different latitudes actually tally trigonometry wise with the globe model rather than the sun as at x miles directly above the earth. I once made the mistake of saying to an “expert” FE arguer that this “proved it”. He rapped an epistemological ruler across my knuckles and said something like “proof exists in maths and not reality”. What he said was true of course. It all comes down to belief in the end.
But I would suggest the philosophical tool of Occam’s Razor as ever applies here too. How likely is it in a large universe that we are specially endowed with a flat surface surrounded by a panorama of not so much planets and their apparent motion attributable to spherical planets but in some indefinable fish tank that contrives to show this attributable universe in such a way as to “test our faith” and ensure we trust among other things the geographical/astronomical pronouncements, in as far as they can be correctly translated, to an ancient book?
[(*) From earlier. I jest of course)]
And the age of NASA is as irrelevant to the argument as the price of potatoes. We know they are liars. And this is my point, they try and taint genuine scepticism by association with the FE model. Even YouTube have got in the act by making sure that all Apollo questioning on their search algorithms is attributable to FE proponents rather than us “ballers”…
Screnton–the sun-rays splaying out are a matter of perspective, same as the railway lines if you stand between them; the rays are parallel–as you have been shown many times. Someone filmed splayed shadows of posts, then raised his drone filming them to show them become parallel, as they always were
@ Lewis Jones
you know the man well do Lewis??
Well I’ve read all the comments to this article and I can honestly say flat earthers are just a bunch of friggin’ retards, the soddin’ idiots can’t even get their stories straight. Are we the centre of the universe or do we live in a bubble in a puddle? Ha ha ha ha and we’re supposed to believe the shit.Ha!
Oh and by the way Aldrin has already said they didn’t go to the moon.
It’s really easy to prove/disprove the alleged Moon Landings.
1) take the images that NASA claims are “high resolution” images of the alleged landing sites
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/news/apollo-sites.html
2) Buy a cheap ETX 90 telescope on craigslist and shoot an image of an object about the same size as the Lunar Module at a similar distance on earth as the orbiter was from the sites (9 miles).
3) compare the image quality.
TeeJay–all people have been given the lesson of parallel railway lines appearing to diverge/converge, but some people are wilfully ignorant and are not listening, because their day-dreaming is too important Also, to Simon Smith–hard luck about having to write so much about so little
If the earth really is flat it only proves one thing. That we are actually living in a simulation. Like in computer/video games there are places with invisible walls. Probably it is more convinient for the programmers to make it this way. Which means we are sims as well.
I think that Jay Weidner’s decryption of the Stanley Kubrick film, “The Shining” highly persuasive.
Kubrick has long been rumoured to be the film-maker responsible for the faked Apollo 11 moon landing footage.
“The Shining” in Weidner’s hypothesis is, at least in part, the director’s occulted confession of his own involvement in the grandiose hoax.
For my taste, “The Shining” is Kubrick’s worst feature film. However, it becomes sublimely satisfying, if you concede that it is, in fact, an extended metaphor for the subversion of America by Secret Societies. Woven into its overly rich crypsis, the allusions to NASA’s lunar programmes, both the Gemini and Apollo projects, are more easily discernable, at a distance of years.
I don’t want to offer an exegesis of Weidner’s revelations because it would involve lengthy exposition and it would have little meaning to those who are unfamiliar with the film’s narrative, let alone its conspiratorial subtext.
Details can be found at jayweidner.com for anyone who’s interested.
Without elaborating, when revisiting the film, I believe that I spotted a couple of corroborating mis-en-scene that Weidner himself missed.
The famous revelation toward the film’s end, that the book Jack Torrence has been working on throughout the film, amounts to just one and the same sentence, repeated over and over again, saying “All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy” actually reads, “A11 work and number play makes Jack [Kubrick] a dull boy.”
Weidner believes that Stanley Kubrick was also behind the infamous “Zapruder” footage of the JFK assassination. This is more of a speculative excursion on Weidner’s part but it’s not wholly improbable.
More incoherent ramblings from crazy ball earther Lewis Jones. I think he cuddles with a desk globe next to him in bed at night.
Comparing train tracks with sun’s rays is a fallacious analogy. Train tracks appear to converge with distance from viewer and eventually disappear into the vanishing point. They don’t splay outward like crepuscular rays. Nice try though.
NASA’S unedited fake “moon landing” with stage lights falling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCuhsvUAwdU
All human space travel is fake.
@Andyay
“I think that Jay Weidner’s decryption of the Stanley Kubrick film, “The Shining” highly persuasive.”
I second that. And feel free to say what other pieces Kubrick seeded if you have time.
markie–the tracks are parallel but don’t look it: the sun’s rays are parallel but, again, don’t look it, so there is an analogy
Lewis Jones — keep trying to pound the square peg into the round hole. The globe – helio model is hoax and you know it.
This comments board is the biggest waste of space seen for a long time; maybe I should just boycott? Do idiots even matter? Unfortunately, they do
Just to be clear–a lot of the comments are still good but it is a bit disheartening to be around Space-deniers and Flat Earthers, as if the intellectual floor gave way and we fell into a knowledge -free Abyss with no escape
@ Simon Smith
Jay Weidner has noted a recurring background image, employed by Kubrick in several of his pictures, of burning towers and even one of a plane flying into twin towers in “Full Metal Jacket.”
I haven’t really looked into this particular theory but it sounds a bit tenuous to me. A burning tower might just as credibly reference card no. 16 of the Major Arcana of the Tarot pack, as 9/11.
Had Kubrick been delegated to provide the “live” footage of the destruction of the World Trade Centre towers, before his death in 1999 precluded it?
One apparent signature, common to the Zapruder, Moon landing and Twin Tower footage, is the presence of an extraneous camera operator. The amateur, Zapruder himself or in the Apollo 11 reels, the astronauts capture of POV shots from the Hasselblads attached to their chests and at the World Trade Centre, the fortuitous presence of a working documentary crew within the immediate vicinity of Towers 1 and 2.
As it stands, I’m not persuaded. I’m keeping an open mind though.
I feel certain that all of Stanley Kubrick’s films, from “A Clockwork Orange” forward, are profiles of Deep State control. Even “Barry Lyndon.”
One aspect of “Full Metal Jacket” that everyone seems to miss, is that it’s actually about “Project 100,000” popularly known as “McNamara’s Folly,” after Defence Secretary, Robert McNamara, who, in 1966, waived the US Army’s mental aptitude tests, to conscript low IQ and mentally-ill young men to fight in Vietnam.
In “Full Metal Jacket,” Joker’s company are McNamara’s boys.
The marching soldiers at the end of the film aren’t singing the Star Spangled Banner.
It might be easier to dismantle Jahan’s ruse by proving that the Taj Mahal existed 400 hundred years before he was born, but this moon landing tale is too far developed to utilise the very system that enabled this lie in the first place. At the least, we can all raise our glasses to Kubrick.
Filming part of the moon-landings on Earth would be a back-up in case of failure. At the time, Apollo made me hate the Americans as loudmouths like Cassius Clay or Elvis, and they polluted the music of Richard Strauss by association, but this is redeemed by the Nazi involvement