Leo Hohmann – leohohmann.com Jan 10, 2023
A cartel of powerful globalist elites including King Charles, BlackRock CEO Larry Fink, the global banking cartel, the Gates, Ford and Rockefeller family foundations, George Soros’ Open Society and countless other foundations, almost all major corporations, the entire global corporate media, the entire federal apparatus in the U.S. and E.U., along with the United Nations and World Economic Forum is pushing forward with a dangerous agenda that has become like a religion for many, especially the younger generation.
It’s called “sustainable development” and the tool to achieve it is the myth of man-caused “climate change.”
Yes the climate is changing, but there is zero proof that these perpetual changes, in play since the dawn of time, are caused by man’s existence on the earth.
By instilling fear of death and destruction from “climate change,” the cartel wants to take away your gasoline-fueled cars and replace them with expensive and more “connected” electric cars, take away your wood stoves, gas stoves and your natural gas appliances and replace them with electric appliances and electric heat pumps, take away most of your meat consumption and replace that protein in your diet with bugs and artificial lab-grown meat.
Watch short video below on how the federal government’s new attempt to ban gas stoves is based on “deeply flawed” science.
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And they wonder why people are getting “angry.” Klaus Schwab’s 2022 WEF conference in Davos warned the elites to “prepare for an angrier world.” Why? Because they know their policies to ban most of our sources of private transportation, our sources of heating our homes, and the staples in our diet are going to piss us off.
They also know they represent all of the big money interests in the world but less than 1 percent of the human population. I believe 2023 will be the year that determines if this powerful cartel will be successful in their drive toward a net zero world and digital slavery for mankind, a goal they hope to reach by 2030, according to United Nations Agenda 2030 and its 17 goals for “sustainable development.” When implemented to their fullest extent, these goals of the cartel of globalist predators will be able to track, trace and monitor everything, living and non-living, on earth.
Already, you can see how almost everything we do as we go about our daily lives leaves digital footprints. Think about your personal habits and how they are “connected” to the internet. Your Apple watch, your vehicle, your appliances, your Smart meters, your paperless digital transactions, your cellphone apps, all this data is being scooped up and stored somewhere. Once the central bank digital currency is introduced, I believe that will happen in 2023, the cartel will have what they call “an almost perfect record of every single transaction that happens in the economy,” as globalist economist Pippa Malmgren said at last year’s World Government Summit.
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Information, data, is power in today’s digital economy. And that’s a level of power concentrated in the hands of a small group of people the likes of which the world has never before seen. No dictatorship in human history has ever had access to this level of personal data on so many people. Not even close. And all of that data will be harnessed to implement the net zero agenda. If you don’t cooperate with it, and the only means of transacting being through a central bank digital currency, you will be punished for your non-compliance. You won’t be able to hide your carbon-creating activities.
In order to reach their goals of net zero, they will need to eliminate at least 50 percent of the world’s population.
The article below is important because it explains how this cartel has cultivated a web of lies to loot the middle-class populations of the world and herd them into a new feudalistic dark age.
Via Summit News
A damning indictment of the Net Zero political project has been made by one of the world’s leading nuclear physicists.
In a recently published science paper, Dr. Wallace Manheimer said it would be the end of modern civilization. Writing about wind and solar power he argued it would be especially tragic “when not only will this new infrastructure fail, but will cost trillions, trash large portions of the environment, and be entirely unnecessary.” The stakes, he added, “are enormous.”
Dr. Manheimer holds a PhD in physics from MIT and has had a 50-year career in nuclear research, including work at the Plasma Physics Division at the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory. He has published over 150 science papers. In his view, there is “certainly no scientific basis” for expecting a climate crisis from too much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere in the next century or so. He argues that there is no reason why civilization cannot advance using both fossil fuel power and nuclear power, gradually shifting to more nuclear power.
There is of course a growing body of opinion that points out that the Emperor has no clothes when it comes to all the fashionable green technologies. Electric cars, wind and solar power, hydrogen, battery storage, heat pumps – all have massive disadvantages, and are incapable of replacing existing systems without devastating consequences.
Manheimer points out that before fossil fuel became widely used, energy was provided by people and animals. Because so little energy was produced, “civilisation was a thin veneer atop a vast mountain of human squalor and misery, a veneer maintained by such institutions as slavery, colonialism and tyranny”.
This argument hints at why so many rich, virtue-signalling celebrities argue not just for Net Zero but ‘Real’ Zero, with the banning of all fossil fuel use. King Charles said in 2009 that the age of consumerism and convenience was over, although the multi-mansion owning monarch presumably doesn’t think such desperate restrictions apply to himself. Manheimer notes that fossil fuel has extended the benefits of civilisation to billions, but its job is not yet complete. “To spread the benefits of modern civilisation to the entire human family would require much more energy, as well as newer sources,” he adds.
The author notes that the emphasis on a false climate crisis is becoming a “tragedy for modern civilisation”, which depends on reliable, affordable and environmentally viable energy. “The windmills, solar panels and backup batteries have none of these qualities,” he states. This falsehood has been pushed by what has been termed a climate industrial complex, comprising some scientists, most media, industrialists and legislators. Furthermore, he continues, this grouping has “somehow” managed to convince many that CO2 in the atmosphere, a gas necessary for life on Earth, one which we exhale with every breath, is an environmental poison.
In Manheimer’s view, the partnership among self-interested businesses, grandstanding politicians and alarmist campaigners, “truly is an unholy alliance”. The climate industrial complex does not promote discussion on how to overcome this challenge in a way that will be best for everyone. “We should not be surprised or impressed that those who stand to make a profit are among the loudest calling for politicians to act,” he added.
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“Brain cells are extremely sensitive to oxygen deprivation and can begin to die within five minutes after oxygen supply has been cut off. When hypoxia lasts for longer periods of time, it can cause coma, seizures, and even brain death.”
Hypoxia is a serious aspect of Covid-1984 that is tied neither to a ‘virus’ nor to the netherworld vaccine is the result of enforced useless mask wearing for us and our children and no one talks about it. Remember when we were forced to wear masks like “One in bed and two when we went out”?
So if you happen to see kids acting strange do not blame the opioids.
But who will be blamed for that ?
Kitchen stoves. Yes them kitchen stoves.
Apparently the shitbrain WEF wants us to breathe pure oxygen.
But what happens if you breathe pure oxygen?
“Breathing pure oxygen sets off a series of runaway chemical reactions. That’s when some of that oxygen turns into its dangerous, unstable cousin called a “radical”. Oxygen radicals harm the fats, protein and DNA in your body. This damages your eyes so you can’t see properly, and your lungs, so you can’t breathe normally.”
Net zero won’t lead to the collapse of civilisation.
The purpose of anthropogenic climate change, and all the policies designed to so say, fix man made global warming, is a stress mechanism to divert attention away from cataclysmic events on the horizon.
Right now, the Sun is crackling away, and we have another 2/3 years of peak solar activity in this current solar cycle.
So this is a bit like a roulette wheel, and we have a 20/25% chance of being hit by a big humanity changing CME over the next 3 years.
They know this!
We will go through even higher risks in the 2030s solar cycle, because our magnetic field, which protects the Earth, is collapsing.
They know this!
They also know the Sun is going to micronova, and at the same time, the magnetic poles will flip through 90° degrees so the new axis will be North West of South America, and the Eastern Indian Ocean.
During this phase, the oceans get a little wild, and most highly populated coastlines and low lying regions will be under massive amounts of water. The micronave will send plasma impactors, and out atmosphere will be full of dust, so no Sun for weeks, or months.
They know this!
It’s a bit like a company who’s going to sack 90% of their work force. The management won’t tell you until you get a text. Before the sack you, they’ll be feeding you all kinds of bullshit lies.
This is a crude analogy of what’s going on right now. They need to keep as many sheeple under stress about bull wank problems, which they’ve deliberately designed.
The UK and US do not care about their staggering debts, bacause they have no intention of paying them off, and they don’t give a crap about their economies.
We had these Brexit lies about the UK being open for business…..
…. Oh feck me, which thicko sheeple fell for this one?
India sent international dimwit terrorist Lizz Truss packing, and she more or less declared war against China. Sure, plenty of trade going on there. lol
If any of this veneer of fear cracks, then they’ll start some big stuff, like big wars, or a truly deadly bioweapons attacks. They’ll do anything to stop the thicko sheeple from knowing they’re going to get fried, flooded and frozen all in the first week of the disaster.
Oh dear, feck me again, the three effs, fried, flooded, & frozen, f, f, & f. The sixth letter of alphabet, 666.
The economic history of the world from one perspective can be viewed as the creation of more wealth over time through greater population and innovation – with these two being linked. Along the way there have been problems with a fair distribution of wealth and environmental problems that further innovation has been able to cope with.
While there has often been pain for many for a generation or two, in the long haul humanity, including the Rothschild-Rockefeller crime syndicate, have done very well for ourselves. The more genuine science from a wider pool of human talent has improved the lot of most. The material lives of the average citizen is far superior to that of monarchs of former ages.
The culling of humanity, as indicated by the Georgia Guidestones for example, makes no sense – it is nonsense.
Why can’t the Rothschild-Rockefeller crime syndicate extrapolate ahead and see the lot of their descendants in mere materials terms would increase through natural progress of humanity? This is ignorance of the nth degree.
But is there something we don’t know about?
But then again the shi*theads at WEF are just being pragmatic.
Russia wouldnt give its gas to crazies so what is the next best thing to do ?
Ban the stoves cause if you dont then people WILL want gas which they dont have.
Talk about gas independence.
I’ll blame Einstein for this great act of gaslighting, where CO2 is a dangerous thing, because he set up our Physics in the same way, some horrible joke where you can stand by a Motorway and MAYBE all the cars are still and you are the one moving
Net Zero = genocide, a comment on unz:
Yukon Jack says:
January 11, 2023 at 5:05 pm GMT • 22.4 hours ago • 400 Words ↑
Nuclear war is a real threat, but both sides want self preservation, thus nukes became the deterrent under the Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD) doctrine.
Wikipedia – Mutual assured destruction (MAD) is a doctrine of military strategy and national security policy which posits that a full-scale use of nuclear weapons by an attacker on a nuclear-armed defender with second-strike capabilities would cause the complete annihilation of both the attacker and the defender.[1]
But there is another huge threat, the climate lunatics are passing laws stopping gasoline car production and natural gas for heating and cooking. California has outlawed gasoline engines by a 2035 and now California has outlawed natural gas by 2030. But 86% of households in CA use it as a primary source of heating and cooking. And now Biden wants to take this law nationwide. This is beyond batshit crazy, these laws are intentionally trying to destroy our civilization, and it should be recognized as such.
Net Zero Will Lead To The End Of Modern Civilisation, Says Top Scientist
ZH: A damning indictment of the Net Zero political project has been made by one of the world’s leading nuclear physicists.
In a recently published science paper, Dr. Wallace Manheimer said it would be the end of modern civilisation. Writing about wind and solar power he argued it would be especially tragic “when not only will this new infrastructure fail, but will cost trillions, trash large portions of the environment, and be entirely unnecessary”.
Anyone with a science background knows that ending natural gas and gasoline engines is impossible, as there is no electrical source to make up for the massive energy component of natural gas and gasoline. So what is really going on here? They are ending our civilization under the guise of fighting climate change. Now if you take that in context of the current vaxx genocide, what these Leftist climate lunatics are really doing is culling the population by any means available – and that means the MAD doctrine may no longer apply – which means they may be actually trying to start a nuclear war with Russia because the WEF goals can only be met if our current civilization is destroyed.
The climate farce is driven by outright falsehoods, ice core records CO2 following temperature up and down. The big lie pushing Net Zero is that CO2 forces temperature, when in fact, CO2 has never forced temperature on earth. Ice ages have started with CO2 over 3,000 ppm.
https://i.imgur.com/zQcZ0rv.png
CO2 follows temperature, first temperature goes up, oceans warm, comes out of solution, then CO2 in the atmosphere goes up. CO2 always follows, never forces. Thus the bedrock of global warming theory is false, and thus CO2 will never make the earth warm, nor will CO2 change the ice age cycle we are in, nor when the glaciers return, will CO2 have any effect.
No extinction event was ever caused by CO2 levels, CO2 is a life gas, not a pollutant. Without sufficient CO2 for plants to grow we would all die. CO2 was never a threat to life on earth, not back then and not now. Life has thrived on earth with CO2 levels 10x higher. Current CO2 levels are so low, at 420 ppm, they are at bare recovery levels, because plants stop growing at 240 ppm, and during the depths of the ice age, just a mere 20,000 years ago CO2 was so low plants were dying! And that may be the cause of megafauna extinctions.
https://imgpile.com/images/1IQqHW.gif
Hothouse earth is not even a possibility, because the earth took 50 million years to cool, and we entered the ice age 2.6 million years ago, and we will most likely be in the ice age for tens of millions of years. The only way out of that predicament is solar output increases, Milankovitch cycles changing, earth orbit radius decreasing.
https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/temperature/65Myr.png
I found out that all cynical,evil,satanic
people have their mouth angles down
when they grin or laughter (D Rockefeller,
senior Bush etc). innocent grin/laughter
mouth angles are upward .
Michael Merkle (michaelmannheimer.net) was
poisoned with Arsen by jews in his cambodian
exil where he was a truther refugee, fugitive
of jewish deutsche justice (its no german justice).
@Carl Jones
I find myself arriving at the same possible junction as you wrt to a yet as unknown motive.
I think you are saying that TPTB are anticipating a global event, and like a good pet owner putting their pet to sleep before the animal experiences too much pain. The problem with this is it suggests a degree of humanity that TPTB obviously lack.
Nevertheless, I admire your constancy in putting forward the idea of a coming global catastrophe. I have often thought to ask you of why you believe this. Could you give a few references, links etc., for those of us open to this idea?
Biden idiot ! abolishing gasstoves ?
FOR THE NEXT YEARS NORDSTREAM
WILL SPILL TRILLIONS OF COWFARTS
+ IS MORE DANGEROUS THAN CO2 .
better we send all white folks to
the tropics !
It is all the same Hegelian dialectic of lies, lies, and more lies. Control the money supply and the media and you control what people will believe and want to believe. Manufacture in the minds of the people a huge fear and then offer them the solution of your own centralized controls. It is now the dooms-day scenario on steroids.
The money power followed this routine in the creation of the Federal Reserve and the central bank system by first using their money in the previous 30 years to rig and destabilize the decentralized US banking system in order to destroy public trust in it. Then there they were offering their solution with their puppet Woodrow Wilson. It is the same with every other single major crisis in the West over the past 150 years and the reason is that it is controlled by the very same money power using the Hegelian formula of thesis, antithesis, and solution together with their manipulations and brainwashing to concentrate, consolidate and centralize more and more wealth and power into their hands.
The problem now is that our subservience to their methods is so entrenched that there is no official opposition to globalism, Covid, CO2 warming, or any of their scams whether they call it “sustainable development”, or “sustainable deception”.
Ah, but they say they are offering us a better world. All we have to do is to give up our basic rights, our personal holdings, and control over our lives and deaths and we will be happy. Just trust them. Yes, everyone, just keep trusting in the media, your corrupt police forces, your “elected” political representatives, and in all your sacred-cow intuitions which are now totally staffed and controlled by the worst spineless suckholes and liars ever to be ejected from the bowels of humanity.
what really gets me is people are willing to sit around and do nothing while these demons plot their demise. when they are at these meetings they have to be attacked and eliminated. being that never happens means every govt on earth who could do what I described is allied with them
@ Simon Smith
Your concerns, with regard to the morbid self-destructiveness of the banking families, can be given reasonable explanation, within the context of clinical psychopathology.
Incestuous relations; childhood rape; entrainment by violences and threats of violences; mental disassociation wrought by psychedelics and, ultimately, inurement to pity, begotten by the habituation to rites of blood sacrifice, are what ensures the familial standard, among the Rothschilds and their ilk, is purposefully maintained.
We now endure government commanded by dark but discerning overlords, for whom the only legitimate qualification, for the wielding of delegated political authority, is the demonstration of biochemical dysfunction in the parietal lobes of the human brain, during EEG monitoring.
“But is there something we don’t know about?”
I’d be sure of that. There’s much that’s yet beyond our ken.
It’s not usually your habit, though, Simon, to bring metaphysical speculations to bear upon realpolitiks, so I suspect that your question is more grounded and earthy, than my flighty mind is capable of fairly addressing.
Nevertheless, I think that it’s reasonable, in answer, to say that our knowledge of Archontic forces is inadequate and a serious scientific evaluation of the putative presence of extraneous, autonomous entities, (which may dominate the lives of men,) is a scholastic imperative but as yet undared.
A worldwide tradition of ancient wisdom teachings, tells us that mankind is fodder for the Archons; insentient, compulsive, miscreants of Mother Earth that feed parasitically from men’s fear. Fear abounds nowadays. It’s dispensed with daily aplomb by so many a captured mind.
“Be afraid, everyone” is the message. Be so afraid that you can’t function sensibly anymore. Then, be even more afraid because it’s such a yummy treat for the blind old Ialdabaoth and his hungry, machine-like, cohort.
“Tolerance will reach such a level that intelligent people will be banned from thinking so as not to offend the imbeciles.”
… unattributed to someone both intelligent and offensive to imbeciles…
Subheading terms it ‘technocratic feudalism’. More like techno-Communism, since the Middle Ages ended centuries ago & monarchs no longer reign. Its the Jews who own/control everything–which is the true definition of ‘Communism’.
Another thing folks, remember all that bullshit the lestist greenies told you how “Big Oil” controlled everything? Well if Big Oil, like Exxon, the world’s biggest corporation, was in control of the world’s politicians, then why in the hell would Big Oil outlaw piston engines? Ever think of that pilgrim? Big Oil’s bread and butter are diesel oil sales, gasoline fuels. Obviously Big Oil is not in charge, and what Big Oil should do is hire assassins to take out these lunatic politicians.
Put bids out online, put a price on Gavin Newsome’s head, and all these greedy mother f-ckers that live in capitalist Amerika will surely knock off anyone if you put enough money on the stupid political WEF whores. Hell, in Amerika, most people would kill their own mother if you offered a million.
If they outlaw natural gas then most people will not be able to afford to live in the United States.
Homes with natural gas are the most sought after, cooking with gas is what chef’s prefer. If you make natural gas unavailable a whole lot of homes are going to be unaffordable to heat, real estate prices will plummet. What Biden and Newsome are doing is destroying the infrastructure for some pie in the sky pinko commie unicorn gay future in globohomolandia. And if you ain’t a cross dressing tranny or fudge packer queer then you ain’t nothing.
The only stocks that will go up in Biden’s future are anal lubes.
These lunatics who want to end natural gas use, diesel for trucks, private automobiles are really ending civilization. Most people can not afford electric cars, so how are all the people out in the countryside going to get to town? Well that must be why they are doing it, to heard the slaves into cities so Klaus Slob can anally probe you with faggot robots in “smart cities”.
Yes- all these serpent aliens gathered in one place (the snake pit) to ‘decide our future’! What an opportunity for a true mission impossible! Wouldn’t it be awesome (in the true sense of the word) if the Russian, Ukrainian, American & UK forces in Europe stopped the current designer war & turned their might against these liars that be, putting an end to antIChrist fakery- at least for a while?!
Just overstand this and the whole debate is over:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_ApR2IxBcY
@Andyay
Yes. A few years ago I came to believe that the idea of “not feeding one’s demons” could be understood in the real as well as the figurative sense. That’s why I’m fond of quoting Hamlet: “Give me the man who is not passion’s slave etc…”
The children’s film “Monsters Inc” is one you may be aware of. The premise is that there is a parallel world that run off the energy produced when “monsters” appears out of the wardrobes of children and scare them.
The idea that there are energy parasites known as archons, god, demons etc. does not gainsay more material reasons for why the world is as it is, but it can complement such explanations. What this is about in metaphysical terms is “worshipping multiple gods” instead of the One, God, the universal Self.
These multiple gods of whom we all worship – often unwittingly – include fear, greed, anger. We worship them because we forget the Self. We see this in the comments section when people get angry with each other; this I believe feeds our demons. “Self-remembrance” – manifested as the first of the Ten Commandments in that tradition – is the most important discipline BY FAR for anyone to practice. The Baghavad Gita is the greatest work of philosophy I know of. A recent rereading of this classic strengthened my resolve in the areas we have touched upon. But it isn’t the only thing one could read. “In my father’s house there are many mansions…” as they say…
So yes. The Rothschilds and Co have made a Faustian bargain. Could it be the whole world is being run to create negative energy for the energy vampirism of these “other” entities? If so, the only thing that can be done is to remember the (universal) Self. Something that is so immediately beneficial for the individual as it is for the whole of humanity.
A well-reasoned and intellectually robust response, as I’ve come to expect from you, Simon. You’re probably the only mathematician that I’ve ever conversed with, who’s made any sense at all to me. That’s something, eh?
I too have a great affection for the Vedas but your wonderful honorific will, I think, particularly please hp, truthseeker’s own resident Rishi.
The Archons are not the same entities as the classic peek-a-boo hominid aliens, either of diminuitive stature or reptilian complexion. The conflation of “ET” and Archon, derives from a misunderstanding of the gnostic treatises from Nag Hammadi. In these ancient codices, one type of Archon is described as resembling a human foetus.
During our day and age, the words, “human foetus” tend to conjure a more or less endearing image of a prenatal ultrasound scan, of a placental tot, in profile, happily gestating in its mother’s womb. This is not the image the gnostics meant to infer. In the Hypostasis Of The Archons and in the Apocryphon Of John, the first type of predator is said to be worm-like, with a lion’s head. It sounds, both in appearance and dimensions, to be very like the familiar sea-horse in its aspect. Sylvie Ivanova, of the New Earth youtube channel has investigated this mysterious creature and found examples of its depiction in mediaeval art and statuary.
The second type of Archon, in popular imagination, at least, is a bipedal reptiloid, of the Credo Mutwa Chitauri-type. No such intruder is described by the gnostics. Instead, they refer to giant, whale-like creatures, with apparently stunted lateral wings like a dragon’s. These typically curl up upon themselves, to give a rounded or lenticular appearance. Their bodies are described as being liqueous and they seem to bear some degree of resemblance to the terrifying Black Goo organism, researched by the steely-nerved Harald Kautz-Vella and by other cryptozoologists since.
Demons wish to scare you, generating energy from the two poles of birth and death and absorbing it. My Taoist scheme has explained everything, so I should start applying it more. It is a new thing, people are not familiar with it, which is why I usually stick to Christian or philosophical terminology despite its ineptitude
It all depends on what is meant by the word, “demons.”
The daemoni of the Platonists were not the demons of mediaeval christianity. The theological conjuring of Perdition, during the middle-ages, changed the Hellenic characterization of daemoni as “genii” capable of both instructing men in sacred wisdoms or, if they were so inclined, in mischievously misleading men for their own entertainment or sport. In the classic tradition, daemoni were elementals, with whom selected individuals could respectfully treat. Otherwise, daemoni were to be tip-toed around, taking a ready posture of humble deference with bowed head.
That’s why, in the Celtic tradition, it was once a precautionary injunction to refer to the Elementals (Elves/ Sidhe) as the “good folke.” Just in case, of course.
In the Christian tradition, men are stronger than demons. We are animated of divine logos; demons are not. They are spectral and insubstantial and quite unalike their corresponding pagan archetypes.
In the Pauline modelling, unless you enter into some kind of compact with them or become vulnerable to their deceptions during illness, demons can’t challenge men. An upstanding man, without fear, can banish demons by his will alone.
Demons crave the material and long for bodies, as is given within the semitic milieux.
The Archons, are distinct, however. They are corporeal. They already have bodies and don’t seek to experience the material vicariously. They govern the material, according to so many an ancient account.
Demons, in the christian or islamic traditions, could just be a ruse on the part of the Archons; a hallucinatory phantasmagoria, to elevate and intensify fear levels at some particular locality, to some malefic purpose.
The Archons of the gnostics and the demons of Constantine Perdition, shouldn’t be conflated with Sylphs or Salamanders, who are an order of divinely created beings, like ourselves.
Elementals have subtle bodies but are still physical in nature. They are characteristically aloof. Their job is to vouchsafe the continuity of the garden. They are neither hostile to, nor especially well-disposed towards men. They can and do, look in on men, and even sometimes remove them to etheric dominions, for physical inspections or intelligence testing.
They watch and gather. It’s what they’ve always done. They can be frightening of aspect to men but they are the appointed custodians of the Earth’s organic treasures.
Lately I have watched dozens of talks by MrBallen, who makes a thirty-minute video about any scary thing; I do not think it is edifying, just addictive, probably abusive, but at least it keeps me in a zone of extra awareness. A witch lived in a wood and could appear as a bobcat or a woman, screeching in the same voice as either, and moving in the same way, and it may be that a demon can be the ghost of a dead predatory animal, (something I never thought before). I am pretty sure there will be an explanation that is no less mundane than that, although still “magical”