Thierry Meyssan – Voltairenet.org Nov 22, 2022
The evolution of the balance of power on the Ukrainian battlefield and the tragic episode of the G20 in Bali mark a reversal of the situation. If the West still believes that it will soon defeat Moscow, the United States has already begun secret negotiations with Russia. They are preparing to let go of Ukraine and to put the blame solely on Volodymyr Zelensky. As in Afghanistan, the awakening will be brutal.
I was talking to an open-minded leader of the European Parliament in Brussels ten days ago, and I listened to him tell me that the Ukrainian conflict was certainly complex, but that the most obvious thing was that Russia had invaded that country. I replied by observing that international law obliged Germany, France and Russia to implement resolution 2202, which Moscow alone had done. I continued by reminding him of the responsibility to protect the populations in case of failure of their own government. He cut me off and asked me: “If my government complains about the fate of its citizens in Russia and attacks that country, will you find that normal? Yes,” I said, “if you have a Security Council resolution. Do you have one? » Disconcerted, he changed the subject. Three times I asked him if we could talk about the Ukrainian “integral nationalists”. Three times he refused. We parted courteously.
The question of the responsibility to protect should have been nuanced. This principle does not allow for a war, but for a police operation, conducted with military means. That is why the Kremlin is careful not to refer to this conflict as a “war”, but as a “special military operation”. Both terms refer to the same facts, but “special military operation” limits the conflict. As soon as his troops entered Ukraine, Russian President Vladimir Putin made it clear that he did not intend to annex this territory, but only to liberate the people persecuted by the Ukrainian “Nazis”. In a previous long article, I pointed out that, if the expression “Nazis” is correct in the historical sense, it does not correspond to the way these people call themselves. They use the expression: “integral nationalists”. Let’s remember that Ukraine is the only state in the world with an explicitly racist constitution.
The fact that international law gives Russia the upper hand does not mean that it has a blank check. Everyone must criticize the way it applies the law. Westerners still find Russia “Asian”, “savage” and “brutal”, even though they themselves have been far more destructive on many occasions.
Reversal of the situation
Now that the Russian and Western points of view have been clarified, it is clear that several events have prompted a Western shift.
We are entering winter, a harsh season in Central Europe. The Russian population is aware, since the Napoleonic invasion, that it cannot defend such a large country. Therefore, they learned to use the vastness of their territory and the seasons to defeat their attackers. With winter, the front is frozen for several months. Everyone can see that, contrary to the discourse that the Russians are defeated, the Russian army has liberated the Donbass and part of Novorussia.
Before winter fell, the Kremlin withdrew the liberated population living north of the Dnieper, and then withdrew its army, abandoning the part of Kershon located on the north bank of the Dnieper. For the first time, a natural border, the Dnieper River, marks a border between the territories controlled by Kiev and those controlled by Moscow. However, during the interwar period, it was the absence of natural borders that brought down all successive powers in Ukraine. Now Russia is in a position to hold on.
Since the beginning of the conflict, Ukraine has been able to count on unlimited aid from the United States and its allies. However, the mid-term elections in the USA have removed the majority of the Biden administration in the House of Representatives. From now on, Washington’s support will be limited. Similarly, the European Union is also finding its limits. Its populations do not understand the rising cost of energy, the closure of certain factories and the impossibility of heating normally.
Finally, in some circles of power, after admiring the talents of the actor Volodymyr Zelensky as a communicator, they begin to wonder about the rumors about his sudden fortune. In eight months of war, he became a billionaire. The imputation is unverifiable, but the scandal of the Pandora Papers (2021), makes it credible. Is it necessary to bleed to the four veins not to see the donations arrive in Ukraine, but disappear in offshore companies?
The Anglo-Saxons (i.e. London and Washington) wanted to turn the G20 in Bali into an anti-Russian summit. They had first lobbied for Moscow to be excluded from the Group, as they had succeeded in doing at the G8. But if Russia had been absent, China, by far the world’s largest exporter, would not have come. So it was Frenchman Emmanuel Macron who was responsible for convincing the other guests to sign a bloody declaration against Russia. For two days, Western news agencies assured that the matter was in the bag. But in the end, the final statement, while summarizing the Western point of view, closed the debate with these words: “There were other points of view and different assessments of the situation and the sanctions. Recognizing that the G20 is not the forum to resolve security issues, we know that security issues can have significant consequences for the global economy. » In other words, for the first time, the West has failed to impose its worldview on the rest of the planet.
The trap
Worse: the West imposed a video intervention by Volodymyr Zelensky as they had done on August 24 and September 27 at the United Nations Security Council. However, while Russia had tried in vain to oppose it in September in New York, it accepted it in November in Bali. At the Security Council, France, which held the presidency, violated the rules of procedure to give the floor to a head of state by video. On the contrary, at the G20, Indonesia held an absolutely neutral position and was not likely to accept giving him the floor without Russian authorization. This was obviously a trap. President Zelensky, who does not know how these bodies work, fell into it.
After having caricatured Moscow’s action, he called for its exclusion from the… “G19”. G19 “. In other words, the little Ukrainian gave an order on behalf of the Anglo-Saxons to the heads of state, prime ministers and foreign ministers of the 20 largest world powers and was not heard. In reality, the dispute between these leaders was not about Ukraine, but about whether or not to submit to the American world order. All the Latin American, African and four Asian participants said that this domination was over; that the world is now multipolar.
The Westerners must have felt the ground shake under their feet. They were not the only ones. Volodymyr Zelensky saw, for the first time, that his sponsors, until now absolute masters of the world, were letting him down without hesitation in order to maintain their position for a while longer.
It is likely that Washington was in league with Moscow. The United States realizes that things are turning against it on a global scale. It will have no hesitation in blaming the Ukrainian regime. William Burns, director of the CIA, has already met Sergei Narychkin, the director of the SVR, in Turkey. These meetings follow those of Jake Sullivan, the US National Security Advisor, with several Russian officials. However, Washington has nothing to negotiate in Ukraine. Two months before the conflict in Ukraine, I explained that the core of the problem had nothing to do with this country, nor with NATO. It is essentially about the end of the unipolar world.
So it is not surprising that a few days after the G20 slap in the face, Volodymyr Zelensky contradicted his American sponsors for the first time in public. He accused Russia of having launched a missile at Poland and maintained his words when the Pentagon indicated that he was wrong, it was a Ukrainian counter-missile. The idea, for him. was to continue to act in line with the Treaty of Warsaw, concluded on April 22, 1920, by Symon Petlioura’s integral nationalists with the regime of Piłsudski; to push Poland to go to war against Russia. This was the second time Washington rang a bell in his ears. He did not hear it.
Probably, these contradictions will no longer manifest themselves in public. Western positions will soften. Ukraine has been warned: in the coming months it will have to negotiate with Russia. President Zelensky can plan his escape now, because his bruised compatriots will not forgive him for deceiving them.
Translation
Roger Lagassé
It could happen, but Russia wants its basic conditions met.
The Russians can sort out UKraine by decimating the West of the river, and if Nazis hide in Kiev, the Russians will route them out.
The next condition, Russia will demand, is the complete NATO demilitarisation of Eastern Europe, and Scandinavia.
Will Russia accept less? I very much doubt it, as this was a key component of the Russian offer, before the SMO.
If NATO doesn’t pull back, we could see Russia occupie Western UKraine, and make Belarus a Russian front line.
I can hear the Russians right now, nyet, nyet, nyet, feck off, and only come back with a decent offer.
You see, the North of Eastern and central North UKraine is already freezing. This will soon head South, and Russia can route the UKraine Nazis, and at some point, NATO, and their mercenaries must run for their lives, cus they are looow on fuel… lol
If there is a deal, the main stumbling block will be Zelensky, if he is in UKraine, and if he can flee, does he flee to Nazi UK, or do the Russians get a show trial and shoot the twat. One thing is for sure, all traces of Stepan Bandera will be destroyed.
If it suits the US, Zelensky will die a convenient ‘hero’s death’.
Zelensky doesn’t deserve a beach condo in Haifa. He deserves to be hung upside down and his green t-shirt torn to shreds by bullets.
Good to read Thierry Meyssan’s analysis again on TT regarding Geo-politics in general, and Russia in particular, it’s been a long time…
As for the little Yid poofta puppet, like Ceaușescu before him, he won’t last the winter, he’ll be lynched in public by the millions he deceived and betrayed. Hopefully
Still with “the Anglo-Saxons” as if these were a power when the English cannot keep hold of their own houses, streets and towns, jobs, girls, language, or anything else
Thierry Meyssan … LOL!
What a complete joke. This guy is the internet equivalent of the village buffoon. A gay Algerian jew, masquerading as a “Frenchman”, and inventing out of thin air the big, bad … ready for this one … “Anglo Saxons!”
Who carried out 9/11? The “Anglo-Saxons”, according to Meyssan. Who runs the banking cartel? the “Anglo-Saxons” … What about Hollywood? I told you, the “Anglo-Saxons”, and on and on.
A moron and a two-bit shill not worth even a momentary glance.
Not in the least surprisingly, Thierry Meyssan is just plain right: Zelensky was given a blood nose by the US at the G20. But the silly little man was just not able to take on board that things are as they are. But they are! This provoked a cheer from me:
‘It is likely that Washington was in league with Moscow … William Burns, director of the CIA, has already met Sergei Narychkin, the director of the SVR, in Turkey. These meetings follow those of Jake Sullivan, the US National Security Advisor, with several Russian officials. However, Washington has nothing to negotiate in Ukraine.’
So this homo-erotic porn-dancing in stiletto heels, this cocaine-sniffing President of Ukraine, is in a bind: If he does ‘negotiate with’ (accept the terms of) President Putin, the murderous AZOV thugs will have his guts for garters. No-accounts like British Prime Minister Sunak and ex-PM Johnson can give him only hot air, just like President Macron of France and the rest of his fair-weather friends. So he will do as Meyyan advises: plan his escape.
It looks like President Putin’s ‘slowly, slowly catchee monkey’ strategy has worked! Deo gratias.
I find Zelensky’s t-shirts redundant and contrived, like wannabe battle gear. Dressing like a stereotypical Hollywood pimp would not only be more stylish but closer to the truth.
What an absurd scam Jewkraine has been, with the working tax-paying citizens of the Jewnited States, Jew-K, and Jewrope fleeced and on the hook for BILLIONS in “aid” to that stunningly corrupt shit-hole, much of which was then funneled into the pockets of kikes, con-men, and rigged political machines in the West.
Then there have been the slack-jawed dopes and the dangerously stupid, lining up to “support” Jewkraine by flying flags, posting absurd slogans on their moronic social media, and otherwise spouting off about something of which they have zero understanding. 95% of those f*cking morons couldn’t even point to Jewkraine on a labeled map.
Zelensky deserves to be stripped naked, dragged through the streets by his ankles, publicly disemboweled through his dick-hole, then his head chopped off and stuffed up the ass of satanic agent of destruction Victoria Nuland.
@Augustin …
Quote: “Good to read Thierry Meyssan’s analysis …” LOL!
“analysis”, ya sure, pal! I’m not going to repeat what I have said about Meyssan above, but let me ask you an honest question: who is more of an imbecile … the imbecile, or the one who thinks the imbecile is some kind of a genius?
The goal has always been to destroy Europe’s ability to manufacture and trade independently. Ukraine and Russia are just being manipulated. (NS1, NS2 had nothing to do with Ukraine). That south American country with all the oil was completely destroyed because they would not allow American companies to take and sell their oil. Turkey just announced they would become a trade hub for energy (bye, bye Turkey). Israil just signed an agreement with a Neighbour to export gas (bye, bye Israil). The goal has been achieved in Europe, time to move on to the next trade competitor.
Excellent comments! Excellent article..well analyzed!!@
Talking about Z’s drab t-shirt it is drab olive.
Now which infamous army wears that color ?
@Mike D, you’re talking rubbish, Thierry Meyssan is neither Algerian, nor is he Jewish, he is a French journalist of Armenian descent, like many who fled to France the Armenian genocide perpetrated in 1915 by the Jewish created Masonic student movement composed of Dönmehs, called the Young Turks.
What he does or doesn’t do with his arse, can in no way negatively impact his intellectual capacity, or his geopolitical analysis.
Although he only started discussing the Jewish involvement in the 9-11 false flag operation quite late (unlike David Irvine and many Arab media), he had at least the merit of being among the first, if not the first one to contest the official narrative concerning 9-11 false flag, and by doing so he was responsible for opening the eyes of millions if not billions about this deception.
@Augustine: ‘he is a French journalist of Armenian descent’
I share your estimate of Meyssan’s ‘intellectual capacity’ and ‘his geopolitical analysis’.
Also, his Armenian ethnicity is borne out by his appearance in the apparently only available portrait of him. But please would you tell me where you found this back-ground information about him. I’ve tried to find some, but got nowhere.
@ Augustin,
I couldn’t care less either what he does in the bedroom, or for his ethnicity and racial background for that matter. I merely pointed that out to highlight the absurdity of his ridiculous and nonsensical rants about the mysterious “Anglo-Saxons” … LOL! Is he referring to the Danish and Germanic tribes of Jutland and Saxony who migrated to England circa 500 AD?
His so-called alleged “analysis” is always convoluted, incoherent, and just flat out wrong. Whether he’s a shill or not isn’t clear. He may be sincere in his confusion and spinning tall tales. Regardless, sincere or not, his take on geopolitical issues is nearly always off the mark.
@ Mike D, to answer you stupid question; “who is more of an imbecile … the imbecile, or the one who thinks the imbecile is some kind of a genius?”
It’s obviously the imbecile asking the question, the very dimwit who seemingly feels compelled to invent stories about people and subjects he knows nothing about, just to appear interesting.
@Mike D, “I couldn’t care less either…” nonsense, you started it, with your personal attacks on Thierry Meyssan whom you evidently never read, let alone understood.
“Anglo-Saxons” designate the Non-Germanic and Non-Latin part of the Western World, you brainless mackerel.
@Sophie Johnson
I don’t think there is much information about Myeassan’s personal life apart from the little that appeared in the French media in the last 25 years, and the fact that he is well connected within the French Intelligence services -which he said himself several times- through his family, and especially his maternal grandfather Colonel Pierre Gaïsset, a UN military observer and President of the Israel-Lebanon Armistice Commission which lasted from 1946 to 1961.
He comes from the Catholic bourgeoisie of Bordeaux, his mother was the director of the inter-diocesan works of the Aquitaine region, he was active in his youth in the Christian movement of the “Charismatic Renewal”
His father Michel Meyssan, was a former municipal councilor of Bordeaux and close to Jacques Chaban-Delmas, former Prime Minister of Georges Pompidou, several times minister, president of the National Assembly, and mayor of Bordeaux for 47 years
In the 1980s, he came out as a homosexual and a free-thinker, turning his back on his Catholic upbringing. He separated from his wife, to whom he had married in 1976. The religious marriage was declared null and void by the Vatican in 1990, after a long investigation.
Here are a couple of links about him that might be of interest to you if you haven’t come across them already;
https://www.babelio.com/auteur/Thierry-Meyssan/18761
https://transfert.net/Thierry-Meyssan-le-Reseau-contre
Good luck.
Thank you, Augustine, for taking the trouble to give me this wealth of information. I really am most grateful for it.