What is now clear, is that beyond these regained Russian lands, the rest of UKraine, either go away and lick their wounds in peace, or Russia can smash UKraine.
As Putin stated recently: “We haven’t started anything yet.”
I don’t think the bankrupt West can give it up.
If we go back, before the SMO, I said a 6 day full on invasion. Remember, the Russians were outside Kiev in just 3 days, even though they had no intention to take the city, and just hold large numbers of Nazis in the city.
If UKraine did not surrender on day six, then Russia should’ve used two nukes on the 7th day, and 2 more more nukes everyday there after, until the Nazis surrender.
None of the current mess would exist.
The downside to surrender, is that Russia would’ve been left with the entire bankrupt UKraine, and tens of thousands of Nazis to put before a firing squad.
On balance, Putin has played a blinder, an absolute masterclass in geopolitics and military strategy.
Most of the Russian forces conducting the SMO, are not regular Russian military. They are malitia from the Dombas and Chechny. We should also keep in mind that the former Eastern UKraine is the wealthy industrialised part of UKraine, and that Western/Central UKraine doesn’t have much to offer, accept farming.
So when these new Russian territories are declared at the end of this month, Biden and Truss will be in a very difficult position, or should I say, their respective deep states.
My view is that these bankrupts can’t afford to walk away, and that things will escalate.
HansScott
on September 27, 2022 at 8:14 am
I want this Zelensky scumbag hanging upside down and riddled with bullets by Christmas Eve, victory by New Years Eve..
antiJHWH
on September 27, 2022 at 12:20 pm
rest Ukraine should stay neutral
without any military aliance like
swiss+austria ! that would be my
ultimatum .
antiJHWH
on September 27, 2022 at 12:21 pm
same with the three baltic
states !
Goy Buoy
on September 27, 2022 at 12:57 pm
“I fear that we, and by we I mean people like you and me who actually want peace in Ukraine, who don’t want the outcome to be that you have to fight to the last Ukrainian life, and possibly even, if the worst comes to the worst, to the last human life. If we, instead, wish to achieve a different outcome we may have to seek a different route and that route may lie in your husband’s previously stated good intentions.
Yes, I mean the platform upon which he so laudably ran for the office of President of Ukraine, the platform upon which he won his historic landslide victory in the democratic election in 2019. He stood on the election platform of the following promises.
1. To end the civil war in the East and bring peace to the Donbas and partial autonomy to Donetsk and Luhansk.
2. And to ratify and implement the rest of the body of the Minsk 2 agreements.
One can only assume that your husband’s electoral policies didn’t sit well with certain political factions in Kiev and that those factions persuaded your husband to diametrically change course ignoring the peoples mandate. Sadly, your old man agreed to those totalitarian, anti-democratic dismissals of the will of the Ukrainian people, and the forces of extreme nationalism that had lurked, malevolent, in the shadows, have, since then, ruled the Ukraine. They have, also since then, crossed any number of red lines that had been set out quite clearly over a number of years by your neighbors the Russian Federation and in consequence they, the extreme nationalists, have set your country on the path to this disastrous war.
I won’t go on.
If I’m wrong, please help me to understand how?
If I’m not wrong, please help me in my honest endeavors to persuade our leaders to stop the slaughter, the slaughter which serves only the interests of the ruling classes and extreme nationalists both here in the West, and in your beautiful country, at the expense of the rest of us ordinary people both here in the West, and in the Ukraine, and in fact ordinary people everywhere all over the world.
Might it not be better to demand the implementation of your husband’s election promises and put an end to this deadly war?”
Love
Roger Waters
Parts of this open letter was aired on MSM radio yesterday though it was posted September 4th.
I was surprised that it brought this to our attention.
Watched the below video a few weeks ago, worth watching.
Far too many variables..and can anyone trust the integrity of ANY voting anymore?
The premise is Russia wants to allow captured regions to employ “democracy” ROTFLMAO.
If they vote to join Russia…will West tolerate it?
If they vote to NOT join Russia…does anyone think Russia will pack up and leave?
I see this a Putin seeking another chess move…which can be played many ways.
lewis jones
on September 27, 2022 at 6:30 pm
Carl Jones–I am glad you are more respectful of Putin now
Sophie Johnson
on September 27, 2022 at 6:55 pm
There is a very interesting article about Igor Strelkov here:
He is a highly experienced hands-on military man, now with a deep loathing of the Ukrainian state. He has serious ambitions for a Great Russia, and vows to fight for it, ‘with or without Putin’. But he clearly has supporters among the Russian military, for he is able to acquire and lead his own group of fighters.
He sees as the logical outcome of the Donbas referenda the Russian Army’s enforcement of their pro-Russia outcomes, should the Ukrainians not clear out of the Donbas. The enforcement he has in mind involves the military occupation of the Ukraine.
I wish I could understand all of what he is saying in this Bitshute video. But I’m afraid my ever-loosening grip on the Russian language leaves me not up to the job.
Carl Jones
on September 27, 2022 at 7:23 pm
lewis jones: go shove your head down the nearest bog.
I don’t respect anyone but myself.
I often talk highly of Putin, but it ain’t difficult when the tide is so fecking low. This is the problem, the opposition is so crap, that Putin lacks motivation.
If Putin had been more motivated, all of this would be over.
Out of all the shower of shit on this site, and I thought we were somewhat on the same page. Well, thanks, as usual, it’s a solitary path.
BTW, were you once held against a 6ft metal locker while someone smacked your face in???
Caesar
on September 27, 2022 at 8:36 pm
Lets hope Azov is slaughtering a bunch of Commies…
Paul M
on September 27, 2022 at 10:24 pm
What Joe Biden said at the beginning of February is very relevant in regard to the two Nordstream pipeline incidents.
israel and USA still plundering syrian oil and mineral resources
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/09/26/689906/Syria-United-Stat
christian churches alowing transvestites to tell school children of the delights in recreational buggery
https://www.theepochtimes.com/culture-war-erupts-in-texas-town-over-drag-bingo-event-hosted-by-christian-church_4753201.html?utm_source=newsnoe&src_src=newsnoe&utm_ca
Yep, all makes sense.
What is now clear, is that beyond these regained Russian lands, the rest of UKraine, either go away and lick their wounds in peace, or Russia can smash UKraine.
As Putin stated recently: “We haven’t started anything yet.”
I don’t think the bankrupt West can give it up.
If we go back, before the SMO, I said a 6 day full on invasion. Remember, the Russians were outside Kiev in just 3 days, even though they had no intention to take the city, and just hold large numbers of Nazis in the city.
If UKraine did not surrender on day six, then Russia should’ve used two nukes on the 7th day, and 2 more more nukes everyday there after, until the Nazis surrender.
None of the current mess would exist.
The downside to surrender, is that Russia would’ve been left with the entire bankrupt UKraine, and tens of thousands of Nazis to put before a firing squad.
On balance, Putin has played a blinder, an absolute masterclass in geopolitics and military strategy.
Most of the Russian forces conducting the SMO, are not regular Russian military. They are malitia from the Dombas and Chechny. We should also keep in mind that the former Eastern UKraine is the wealthy industrialised part of UKraine, and that Western/Central UKraine doesn’t have much to offer, accept farming.
So when these new Russian territories are declared at the end of this month, Biden and Truss will be in a very difficult position, or should I say, their respective deep states.
My view is that these bankrupts can’t afford to walk away, and that things will escalate.
I want this Zelensky scumbag hanging upside down and riddled with bullets by Christmas Eve, victory by New Years Eve..
rest Ukraine should stay neutral
without any military aliance like
swiss+austria ! that would be my
ultimatum .
same with the three baltic
states !
“I fear that we, and by we I mean people like you and me who actually want peace in Ukraine, who don’t want the outcome to be that you have to fight to the last Ukrainian life, and possibly even, if the worst comes to the worst, to the last human life. If we, instead, wish to achieve a different outcome we may have to seek a different route and that route may lie in your husband’s previously stated good intentions.
Yes, I mean the platform upon which he so laudably ran for the office of President of Ukraine, the platform upon which he won his historic landslide victory in the democratic election in 2019. He stood on the election platform of the following promises.
1. To end the civil war in the East and bring peace to the Donbas and partial autonomy to Donetsk and Luhansk.
2. And to ratify and implement the rest of the body of the Minsk 2 agreements.
One can only assume that your husband’s electoral policies didn’t sit well with certain political factions in Kiev and that those factions persuaded your husband to diametrically change course ignoring the peoples mandate. Sadly, your old man agreed to those totalitarian, anti-democratic dismissals of the will of the Ukrainian people, and the forces of extreme nationalism that had lurked, malevolent, in the shadows, have, since then, ruled the Ukraine. They have, also since then, crossed any number of red lines that had been set out quite clearly over a number of years by your neighbors the Russian Federation and in consequence they, the extreme nationalists, have set your country on the path to this disastrous war.
I won’t go on.
If I’m wrong, please help me to understand how?
If I’m not wrong, please help me in my honest endeavors to persuade our leaders to stop the slaughter, the slaughter which serves only the interests of the ruling classes and extreme nationalists both here in the West, and in your beautiful country, at the expense of the rest of us ordinary people both here in the West, and in the Ukraine, and in fact ordinary people everywhere all over the world.
Might it not be better to demand the implementation of your husband’s election promises and put an end to this deadly war?”
Love
Roger Waters
Parts of this open letter was aired on MSM radio yesterday though it was posted September 4th.
I was surprised that it brought this to our attention.
Watched the below video a few weeks ago, worth watching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZsRj3_iDfM
Roger Waters Uncut. The full interview with Michael Smerconish recorded in Philadelphia, PA – 8/4/22
antiJHWH: Finland agreed to be neutral in perpetuity (that’s forever), & this is why Russia allowed Finland to exist. Now look at the two faced Finns?
Russia should be demanding NATOs breakup.
Re referendum
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63032705
Far too many variables..and can anyone trust the integrity of ANY voting anymore?
The premise is Russia wants to allow captured regions to employ “democracy” ROTFLMAO.
If they vote to join Russia…will West tolerate it?
If they vote to NOT join Russia…does anyone think Russia will pack up and leave?
I see this a Putin seeking another chess move…which can be played many ways.
Carl Jones–I am glad you are more respectful of Putin now
There is a very interesting article about Igor Strelkov here:
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/igor-strelkov-moscow-agent-or-military-romantic/
He is a highly experienced hands-on military man, now with a deep loathing of the Ukrainian state. He has serious ambitions for a Great Russia, and vows to fight for it, ‘with or without Putin’. But he clearly has supporters among the Russian military, for he is able to acquire and lead his own group of fighters.
He sees as the logical outcome of the Donbas referenda the Russian Army’s enforcement of their pro-Russia outcomes, should the Ukrainians not clear out of the Donbas. The enforcement he has in mind involves the military occupation of the Ukraine.
I wish I could understand all of what he is saying in this Bitshute video. But I’m afraid my ever-loosening grip on the Russian language leaves me not up to the job.
lewis jones: go shove your head down the nearest bog.
I don’t respect anyone but myself.
I often talk highly of Putin, but it ain’t difficult when the tide is so fecking low. This is the problem, the opposition is so crap, that Putin lacks motivation.
If Putin had been more motivated, all of this would be over.
Out of all the shower of shit on this site, and I thought we were somewhat on the same page. Well, thanks, as usual, it’s a solitary path.
BTW, were you once held against a 6ft metal locker while someone smacked your face in???
Lets hope Azov is slaughtering a bunch of Commies…
What Joe Biden said at the beginning of February is very relevant in regard to the two Nordstream pipeline incidents.
Biden pledges ‘No Nord Stream 2 if Russia invades Ukraine’ | Latest English News | WION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62J5Nf18I_U