HenryMakow.com – March 4, 2022
“Satan’s greatest deception was to make us believe that he doesn’t exist. Yet God’s greatest truth is that He created everything. Satan can only deceive–he can not create. We only have to look up at the sky (preferably with a Nikon P-900) to see that God created everything that exists. The sun revolves around the Earth; the Earth does not move; and the sun, moon, and stars are all lights attached to the Firmament.”
(Disclaimer- I have no use for the flat earth argument but post this out of respect and affection for my friend and fan, Edward Menez.)
GOD CREATES WHILE SATAN CAN ONLY DESTROY
by Edward Menez — (henrymakow.com)
Have you ever felt yourself spinning, like 1000 mph?
Have you ever seen water cling to a concave surface?
Have you ever looked at the stars with a zoom camera like the Nikon P-900?
There are a lot of questions regarding our lives here on Earth, but none is more fundamental than asking exactly where we live.
Is it a planet? Or do we live under a firmament, as mentioned in the Bible?
It’s not hard to find the answer: all you need is a zoom lens on your camera (preferably the 83x zoom of the P-900).
Often the first question is: Why would we be lied to about this?
It’s the same reason we’ve been lied to about taking vaccines for an invented “covid” virus.
Now we’ll have both sides calling the other morons. And on a site of alleged truth seekers. I’d like both sides to address the chief claims of the other — otherwise your arguments have about as much weight as the 9/11 ‘investigation’.
@ All you crazy Flat Earthers
We know that earth is a spinning ball because ;
How else would it be possible for Santa Claus to deliver all his presents in just one night on Christmas eve ? In order to expeditiously complete his monumental task , he simply guides his magic reindeer and sleigh into the sky and waits for his multiple destinations to rotate under him , eliminating the need to travel great distances in such a short period of time . If not for the good fortune of Earth’s 1000 mph rotation , there would be countless disappointed children deprived of gifts on Christmas morning.
In addition , any moron that promotes a flat stationary earth , hates children , puppies , beauty , truth , justice , kindness , generosity , and all else we hold dear and precious in our sacred globular world .
No doubt vitriol will come thick and fast from those who adhere to the “planet” religion. But l have two questons for such types:
1. Why do so called satellite dishes always face along tbe horizon and not up at the sky?
2. If all the stars and planets are moving, wjy does the north star always point to the north?
I really want to believe in the flat earth theory. I’m also very aware of how scientific fact emerges from convenient theory. However…
Having spent years working in the space industry designing satellites and their control systems, I can truthfully say ‘the world is round(ish)’. Sorry.
The science which keeps satellites in very precise orbit is pretty basic and the same Newton came up with in the whole apple incident. It’s not rocket science (to coin a phrase).
The reason you don’t feel like you’re travelling at 1,000mph is the same as when driving on the motorway: you only feel it when you slow down or speed up. The rationale behind the horizon is because the earth is really really big: the horizon you think you see is mostly atmospherics. For everything else, I’ll say ‘because we’ve evolved on this planet in this condition’ i.e. this is normality. The earth is actually spheroid not a ball. This is a physics anomaly caused by the rotation!
You are correct in pointing out the lack of earth pictures from space. Truth is that there are hundreds of cameras up there, I’m jointly responsible for a few of them, but they are all zoomed into the planet, not framing it. The simple reason is that there isn’t any money to be made in launching anything far enough away to take pictures of a nice framed earth.
We’ve been lied to for a century on a lot of different subjects. Sometimes maliciously, mostly innocently (sh#t sticks where it comes to science theory). However, flat earth isn’t one of them.
It’s turtles all the way down.
Forthright statement declaring the truth of Creation and negating the Satanic lie of Heliocentrism and non-existent planets named after pagan “gods”. In order to see this truth, one must have a desire for truth even if it were to invert your worldview and previous indoctrinacion. Yes Virginia, Santa Claus does not exist, your parents lied to you.
“Flat Earth is the Most Important Truth:
When the spinning ball-Earth is finally exposed worldwide for the 500 year deception it was, Earth’s entire population will suddenly be faced with the reality that every government, every space agency, university, secret society, religious organization, mainstream and alternative media outlet have ALL been duplicitous in propping up a monstrous manipulation to fleece and control the masses. The resulting mass mental exodus away from the control system is exactly what humanity needs. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these lying politicians, spokesmen, reporters and teachers suddenly change from being heralded voices of authority to being ridiculed, shunned and denounced as they deserve. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these governments, universities, media outlets and other entangled organizations which have long been hard at work weaving this multi-generational ball-Earth myth, suddenly and completely lose all credibility”.
http://www.ericdubay.com
@NasaHoax
At Henry Makow Judaism is an AFRICAN RELIGION. You are not that well educated. You have the gift of linguistic manipulation. We are on a FLAT PLANE. In time the truth surfaces.
I am paranoid, Jahi Sami
We don’t reserve judgment; this is the biggest gaslighting exercise since the Holohoax. FTFE and others spend every day teaching the daft people the basics, people who don’t even get “crepuscular” rays and are stuck in early childhood physics-wise. Come on, Flat Elephant, exhibit your idiot mind.
flatearthers,nospacers,no moonlanders,
no nukes, nohiroshimas + similar idiots
are robably steered shills of some CIA
or UNIT 8200 brain confusers .
there was no 1.+2. worldwar, no Nam war ?
no invader floodings of Merkill-Soros mafia ?
Here we go again …
To those simpletons who believe this garbage, know this: the whole “flat earth” psyop came out of nowhere in 2013, and started as a joke at the Tavistock Institute, the world’s premiere brainwashing and social engineering agency.
Stunningly, it was a bet between two Tavistock degenerates who disputed how many dumb sheeple would fall for this stunt. Their higher ups took the matter more seriously as a way to both assess the stupidity and gullibility of the sheeple, and also how to further dumb them down.
So, in 2013, Tavistock officially launched the “flat earth” meme all over social media. The buffoons taken in by this Tavistock experiment don’t even know that prior to 2013, they had never heard of “flat earth” … that’s how dense and dim witted the sheeple are; no self-awareness and consciousness of how they’re manipulated.
The Polar Star or North Star does not move and stays always
in the same position in the center of the flat earth.
Keep the shutter speed open of your camera
at night for a longer time and you will see, that all stars are moving
in a circle around the not moving North Star in the centre.
You will find in google pictures various pictures about it.
See a very good picture of it, click following link :
https://www.photocase.de/fotos/3508604-kreisfoermiger-sternenhimmel-durch-die-langzeitbelichtung-der-nacht-mit-fokussierung-auf-den-polarstern-polaris-punkt-photocase-stock-foto
When you fly say 2 or more hours, than take a small spirit level with you and put it
on the table in front of you when you are flying straight. And you will see that it
stays straight all the time until you start landing.
And further information :
http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/?m=1
Its just one small step from believing that a Jew is your ‘Messiah’, to believing that the earth is ‘flat’…
Thank you, ForeignerGBR and Mike D. I get these flat earth operatives at my sites. I would wonder why if Earth is flat all the other planets are round. Why are comets round? Why are asteroids basically spheroid? I’ll tell you why these are emerging at this time; besides the presence of worldwide participatory media in recent years. A global awakening is taking place and it does not bode well for those who have been plundering the planet. This is one of the ways they stave it off and work so hard to control the information flow. It is one of the reasons that their chief representatives ALWAYS accuse others of what they themselves are doing. This is self-evident and in plain sight. We have the historical record on that account.
The purpose of flat earth psyop is to discredit real conspiracy research.
Another purpose is to reaffirm the Bible as a factual book. If the Bible says earth is flat and it is not, then that book is discredited, and can not be the world of the infallible god. Well flat earth is bullshit and so is the bible. Sorry if you think otherwise, you are wrong. LOL
This claim –> “Have you ever felt yourself spinning, like 1000 mph?” is a physics 101 problem, your body only detects accelerations not constant velocities. You can be on any vehicle and not know your moving so long as the velocity is constant. Any freshman in physics understands this basic principle. So how can learned adult claim the spinning problem unless they are being deceptive?
Flat earth is promoted by the CIA to discredit conspiracy research which was discrediting government machinations and lies. Flat earth was revived by the lying scumbag Jew Cass Sunstein to discredit research exposing the evil of Jews in Washington D.C. – and attached to exposure theories to discredit them.
Any person promoting flat earth theories is:
a.) a dupe who doesn’t understand basic science
b.) a tool repeating a falsehood which benefits evil
c.) malevolent political intelligence prick trying to fool you
d.) a religious prick that wants their holy book seem true
What the authorities wants is your subservience and unquestioning loyalty so they can send you to war and collect your income tax. ZOG Amerika run by evil Jewish pricks does not want a thinking moral human who questions their crimes.
What religion promotes is exactly what government wants, like in a Baptist church you are told to believe every word in the Bible as absolute truth – likewise they want you to believe every word from the MSM as if the god told you – which is why newscasters pretend to be authorities on every subject.
You are a damn fool to engage in blind belief. If you believe the lies around 911 psyop you might go to war in Iraq and kill innocent people for for Jewry. Belief turns you into an immoral tool killing for ZOG.
Belief in supernatural things is one of the greatest evils of our time. If you believe a Jewish man called Jesus could walk on water – when you damn well know that no man can do that – then your mind is captured – and you will believe other lies to maintain that spell on your mind. So Christians become united with Jews and support the illegal and immoral wars in the middle east for Israel – because the Christian wants to get into heaven so bad they will do anything and believe anything to do so. This striving for heaven no matter what becomes clawing humanity for Jewish evil.
Flat earth, like the ressurection of the Jew Jesus, are some of the great deceptions of our time. No Jew can raise himself from the dead, or make the blind see, or walk on water, or do any of the other fantastic claims in that Jew Bible. Flat earth is not true and neither is the Bible, belief in either is how you screw up your own mind by believing Jew lies.
There is no afterlife judgment by some stupid Jew god, there is no such thing as “sin” in physics, there is no proof of heaven, but there is proof of reincarnation, no one can die for YOUR sins, and no god sees any act as a sin anyways. No man named Jesus died for YOUR sins, that is ridiculous on the face of it. The Bible is complete bullshit Jew story book that completely dupes people especially if they are uneducated or very young. Mental asylums are filled with Pentacostals, every notice that?
BTW there are hundreds of ways to prove the earth is a sphere.
The easiest is logical deduction – if the sun is a sphere, and the other planets, then you can deduce the earth is also. If you see sunspots on the sun, and they are moving across the surface then disappear then reappear as the sun rotates – that proves a sphere shape. Only a sphere appears round all of the time if it is rotating. Hang any shape on a string and test it your self.
Another is a live satellite feed from space.
Another is modern navigation is based on spherical math.
Another is a ship sailing over the horizon.
Or seeing farther from a high position when looking at the horizon – every sailor ascends to the top of the mast to spot an island at a distance.
Another is constant gravity over the surface of earth – a pancake shape would have irregular gravity and at the center of the pancake shape near zero.
Another is a mass floating in space takes on a spherical shape if it is a fluid. A water drop floating on the ISS becomes a sphere – and so does any planet of sufficient mass.
https://www.popsci.com/10-ways-you-can-prove-earth-is-round/
I have never heard of the Flat Earth theory. If there is such a theory, please produce the scientific evidence in a proper scientific paper – whether peer reviewed or not – because without such a paper there ain’t no such theory.
To what can we attribute to this revival of a scientifically illiterate idea? To me it seems a coordinated campaign designed to discredit ‘conspiracy theories’.
1 Why should we feel the earth spinning? Gravitation is electrodynamic, we can’t feel the effect on spinning protons. We don’t feel motion in planes during a smooth flight.
2 Water forms spheres in free-fall.
3 Crepuscular rays are parallel and appear to converge on the distant horizon. It’s a matter of perspective.
4 You can see over a curve because light refracts through moisture in the air.
5 Pilots don’t use just one map, they use many maps. A flight from Argentina to Australia takes about as much time as a flight from Toronto to Shanghai. How is that possible if the earth was flat? Shouldn’t it take three times as long A to A than T to S?
https://www.fly4free.com/flight-deals/australia-and-oceania/au-cties-to-santiago-chile-from-just-au981/
Maps: https://revman.substack.com/p/cool-aviation-maps?s=r
6 The moon landings were faked by the tribe and covid is another of their lies but it doesn’t mean that the earth is flat.
7 If a ball made of mostly rock is thousands of miles in diameter, it will induce gravitation, we will always stand paralled to its plane (surface) and that surface will always appear flat due to perspective.
The “firmament” of old means the sky.
If you believe the earth is flat how do you explain the midnight sun in Antarctica? Better yet, why were we bombarded with Flat Earth videos around the same time the moon landings and the ISS were much more often exposed as hoaxes? The usual suspects want you talking about something else. Eric Dubay appears to be a bisexual Jew, a plagiarist and someone who is intelligent enough to know that what he presents is false. He is screwing you over and laughing about it.
Instead of believing these lies about moon landings, Covid, German villainy and the filth that they heap upon Christ, study the lies in terms of how they are used to demoralize Christians and direct their attention away from the heinous crimes (((they))) commit. They are engaged in relentless parasitism, larceny and have stolen our identity and want us dead. With their ownership of the banking system, they end up owning and controlling everything and are genetically predisposed to a murderous intent. They enjoy demoralizing us. They join forces world-wide and tell the same lies. Where are the good Jews exposing the lie about Covid or the lies about Germany’s National Socialist Government? They are very few and once they are in positions of power, they all get with the program of exterminating whites.
If you want to study a great example of how they use BS to confiscate billions in tax revenue, study the entire James Webb Space Telescope Hoax. Once again, after billions of dollars, fake scale models, breathless description about seeing incredible resolution, seeing back in time and interminable “launch delays” they neglected to put a camera on the telescope or rocket because “they don’t put a camera on a camera and it’s just too much work, they did that already many times before, space is limited on an extremely complex device etc”. What a laugh, once again they can’t mount a camera on a rocket so taxpayers can see a continuous launch into space and see an actual image of the earth from space instead of the same ridiculous “pale blue marble” painting from the sixties. If you want to study the lying process these parasites use to deceive what they call “the stupid goyim” here it is: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=no+camera+on+james+webb+telescope&ia=web
There are books about flat earth from the 1800s — so it’s not some recently made up jewish or MI# or whatever else theory. Why do people get so worked up about it? The freaking ‘moon landings’ are far more annoying, not to mention ‘9.11’. Patrick Moore was a member of the flat earth society — although he always said he joined as a joke. Think of this: if the earth was flat you could push the jews off the edge, and that alone is a good enough reason for it to be flat.
This this flat earth concept with all its constructs of history, science and philosophy obviously manifests from and can be traced back to its natural origin, the source of which is the Vedas. Bhu-Mandela
Worlds beyond the poles pdf. The book was written in 1959. Do your home work.
@Tony O’Neill 10:24 am
The North Star appears to move over years, not nights. It isn’t in the same place after centuries. For how bankers deceive you can look into the history of “satelloons” and how cell phones and dishes work with towers. If you have the right equipment, you can travel to a dark sky location and hunt for “satellites”. For up to about an hour after sunset, with patience and good astronomy binoculars you will see what appear to be stars moving in different directions. Some of these ‘lights’ will be high altitude helium balloons with solar panels and signal relay stations. The best viewing is directly above rather than near the horizon. And Elon Musk is a fraud. Depending upon the height of the tower, its signal can reach millions of people over an 80 kilometer area. You don’t need satellites, orbiting retrograde and geosynchronous satellites are hoaxes. Towers, they are sometimes very high and powerful: https://thefactfactor.com/facts/pure_science/physics/antenna/5117/
@ MIKE D
THANKS FOR YOUR ENLIGHTENMENT !
Interesting stuff. The author seems to be trying to play both sides though; labeling the satanic Jews and their evil machinations for what they are, which I applaud him for stating such truth, yet promoting some tripe from the Book of Bullshit, er I mean Bible, as evidence of the flat-earth theory without mentioning the same nefarious group of satanic demons, i.e. Jews, wrote much of the book used to dupe generation after generation of suckers. So, I detect the aroma of bull excrement…
Excellent comment above from Sam, who proposes a wonderful solution!
How silly. If the earth was not round there would be no night and day. You would be able to see the sun whenever it is up for one part of the disc. The best you can do with the problem that when it is night over here while it is day over there, is to say the sun goes around the earth, which is a sphere. Otherwise hire a jet and travel around the globe. Go to Antarctica and see if you fall off.
The guy is so nutty he says that Satanic Jews are behind the conspiracy, and yet the Bible teaches a flat earth theory. But why would Makow put in such nonsense? Because it knocks his own tribe? ??? Now I am getting really suspicious.
You can use polar-coordinates in math to wrap or unwrap rectangular to polar and vice versa, it always helps to be able to give directions on a map as an angle and distance rather than xy coordinates for practical reasons.
Unwrapping the surface of a sphere (earth) has always been the concern of mappers and cartographers. How to unfold a sphere properly and carpet it with designs or maps without losing quality and accuracy and most importantly to avoid stretching.
Further study: Myriahedral Projections > https://www.win.tue.nl/~vanwijk/myriahedral/
In 3D you can model a sphere using polygons in different ways: Hexahedron, Octahedron, Tetrahedron, etc…
But keep in mind Flat-Earthers are essentially into hemispheres and half-circles which are compatible with triangles. Total angle value of both circle and rectangle are equal while total angle value of the triangle is half of those. Ask any 3D modeler and they would tell you that triangular polygons are worst in modeling and it is better to use quad polygons for better texturing complex models.
Many Christians have to embrace Flat-Earth because it is in bible, but inadvertently it seems that it is also compatible with the trinity doctrine.
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But enough of that… we will use an interlinear Hebrew bible, I have something new for Christians:
Genesis 17-20
Head to https://biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/17-20.htm and read the bible in Hebrew from right to left.
Check the words:
Exceedingly = בִּמְאֹ֣ד = bim·’ōḏ
Greatly = מְאֹ֑ד = mə·’ōḏ;
Why two similar adjectives have been used one after the other? Connect them together and it is actually another word… it is a name! But to better understand we shall see another verse…
Now try Song of Solomon 5:16
Some say this verse is about Solomon, other’s say this is Solomon’s wife talking about him, but when you read it in Hebrew things become interesting!
Head to https://biblehub.com/interlinear/songs/5-16.htm and focus on the word:
Lovely/Desirable = מַחֲּמַדִּ֑ים = ma·ḥă·mad·dîm
Now “im” is usually added at the end of a name to give it respect.
Listen to this here: https://youtu.be/Hj4qjOs6ALU?t=152 (with timestamp) did you hear that!? Now paste that word (מַחֲּמַדִּ֑ים) in google translate Hebrew to English, it is not even word… it is the name! No one should translate a name.
In the previous one in Genesis 17-20, they have cut the words into two! The verse is also talking about the 12 imams/princes after him through the Ismail generation.
Now I can give you many more verses in bible speaking about Prophet Mohammad ص, the Jews of the time knew him better than their own children because of so many prophecies!
That’s it for today.
my two rials
I have personally studied a ship disappearing at the horizon, and you can clearly see how it’s going ”downhill” out there.
Thereby proving the sphere.
This entire issue is testament to how dumb down the average Westerner has become. That this childish subject is not laughed at, mocked, and ultimately ignored, evinces what psychiatrists refer to as “extended infantalism” or “regressive infantalism” among the population.
The low-IQ and mentally unstable folk who are part of the Tavistock experiment haven’t even the basic knowledge of history: even before the Greeks were able to determine the radius of our spherical globe, the Egyptians were well aware of it, and there’s strong evidence that so were the Sumerians. On the other side of the ocean, Mayan and Aztec mathematicians had long calculated the various measurements of the globe, which enabled to them to determine star positions with astounding accuracy.
Kooks and crackpots are utterly unaware and ignorant of the achievement of ancient civilizations with respect to astronomy. Sure, the education system may have been dumbed down by the jew, but we can only blame the jew so much. The jew doesn’t force wingnuts and crackpots to push the “flat earth” garbage: these folks do so of their own accord and free-will.
@Yukon Jack
Well said, pal. I agree with everything you say except who came up with it. It’s a minor point, but it was devised and disseminated by the Tavistock Institute, not so much the CIA. Again, minor issue, but it’s mainly to discredit anyone looking into these scumbag degenerates.
There will always be, regrettably, a sizeable number of mentally ill or mentally disturbed people, not to mention the uneducated and low-IQ, that will fall for these cons. Thus, the remainder of the timid sheeple can always be coerced into falling in line with the Fake News narrative …. “oh, you’re questioning the Federal Reserve system, eh? You aren’t one of those flat earth sickos, are you?”
It’s a crude and simple con, ultimately.
It should also be observed: no “flat earther” out there has more than high school education. As for the scumbags who write “books” on this or create content, they’re you’re typical conmen/con artists out to cash in on the mentally disturbed.
If I were a minion of The Power$ That Be, and if I were charged with monitoring how well a particular project progressed through time, then I would place such a post on a site like The Truthseeker (UK), which appears to have gathered a comparatively small audience of “truthers”, some more knowledgeable than others, including refugees from other, now darkened sites, though a few perhaps accessible from the “other side” of the Moon.
I would find as we do here STILL a surprising if putative diversity (!) of opinion even today. Remarkable, I think, for a psychological operation one would think long in the tooth and very short of breath. Perhaps paid staff of hasbara are simply slow or loathe to let go.
Anyway, good data, folks!
A tyranny forcing people to give up the idea of sun, moon, planets and Space, is in the 1950s book The Demolished Man. Like 1984, it has no heroes, just showing the last man to fall in line.
The fact is, most flat earth proponents know a lot more about the heliocentric model than do most of its supporters.odd, that!
What’s my opinion? Well, do you understand that a sphere of infinite size would have no curveture? That’s not opinion, it’s fact. 😎
Why do Israelis direct ISIS to blowup archeological sites in Iraq? Jews want a monopoly on the ancient world, so the Torah/Bible is the only source of information from the past. Jews do not want you to know that the Bible flood myth was predated a thousand years by the Sumerian flood myth, and since the narrative reads partly the same, meaning the Bible version is a plagiarized one from the original. For instance:
Enki favors Ziusdudra from the Anunnaki engineered flood by building a boat/submarine which he puts his livestock.
–> that story becomes:
God favors Noah and has him build an ark
The older story is more accurate, while the new story is Jew bullshit with a Jew narrative and Jew characters substituted over Sumerian ones. The supremacist Jew cares nothing about the origin of the myth, the Jew only cares about his power and will erase history to maintain his power over you.
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Likewise the earth is not flat, but the Bible says it is flat and also says the water is above the clouds and the sun and moon are equal distance from an earth observer. Flat earthers use those exact talking points proving a religious motivation. But the Bible is a pre-scientific book, and thus not true. In religion any notion can be asserted as true and enforced with a death penalty. But with science every point has to be proven. Thus religious books are guaranteed to be wrong based on the way they were constructed – by forceful and prejudiced assertions.
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The claim that Satan’s greatest trick is to fool you to believe he does not exist. There is not one shred of evidence of a devil or Satan, so it is not a trick to fool us but a religious trick to fool you to believe that the religious assertion of a devil is true. That is so obvious I am surprised that the article uses that as an argument.
I have told these religious freaks that no man can walk on water, so no Jesus didn’t either. The religious freak who “believes” the bullshit then says to me, well Jesus is god so he could walk on water. Do you see the self deception here, there is no proof that Jesus walked on water, only a claim in a book. But the fool believer says it is true because the book says it is true because the person doing the impossible is god. Well if Jesus was really god then why did he have to hang on the cross for your sins? Eh? Ever think of that pilgrim? If Jesus was “god” he could of just blinked his eye and made all the judgment against men go away with just his thoughts. So this whole story on the bloody cross is just sick primitive mythology.
So why does the believer need to believe in Satan or walking on water assertion – to prove the rest of the narrative that some devil is trying to trick you and you can go to hell for your sins. But there is no proof of sin, hell, devils, or afterlife, or even judgement after death. It is all 100% make believe, and people want to believe because life is difficult and evil. And why is there even a devil, why did the omniscient god create a powerful rival? Because it is a story to explain evil, how can there be evil if god is good? Obviously the construct of god is wrong.
When you live in this make believe realm, you believe irrational and unprovable things like a talking donkey, a staff that turns into a snake, a mortal who walks on water or turns water into wine. These Bible fables are lined up in increasing complexity to convince you Jesus beat death and so can you. Well Virginia, no one beats death and only a crazy person thinks they can beat death by mere belief in some proxy – yet that is the basis of all of Christianity.
And think how easily an advanced civilization could fool a primitive man. I could broadcast a hologram of Kamala Harris walking on water to prove she is a goddess to a primitive dupe. I could say to the apostle if you believe in the divinity of the Kumalaho Kunti you to can live everlasting life. Then the fooled believer could start a cult that would last thousands oy years. They would erect statues of the Kunt and put flowers on it – thinking this person was divine when she really was a dirty decieving and stupid whore. That is the power of religion – and now the MSM narratives.
The Earth is sheathed by an electro-magnetic field, the uniform physical characteristic of which is a toroidal form. Both the sphere and the plane paradigms abstract from this foundational principle and plot metrics for the Earth, without consideration of the scientific absolute, that the shape of the Earth must, perforce, be an accommodation of toroidal physics.
The first principle of all life is movement. Therefore, the Earth must have motion but its movement is about the plane of a torus. It’s motion is, correspondingly, heliachal. This view is consistent with a musical cosmology, or if you like, with the progenitive Word.
If we take the vibrational frequency of the Earth as that given by the Schumann Resonance, then the corollary, as a ratio of velocity, would suggest a very slow planetary motion, with cycles of fluctuation.
Spiral carriage doesn’t ever arrive back at its point of origin. It always aligns with its point of axis, however, despite the expansiveness of its loop.
One degree of equinoctal precession, sidereally calculated, is seventy-two years to men. My guess would be that this is the correct calibration metric to factor into the equation, v = d/ t where “t” stands for toroidal time.
Who says the Earth is flat? Who says the Earth’s a sphere? Not me.
ForeignerGBR,
“The reason you don’t feel like you’re travelling at 1,000mph is the same as when driving on the motorway: you only feel it when you slow down or speed up.”
But the thing is that we’re NOT moving forward or backwards. We’re spinning, as they tell us.
So, if you’re in your car and you turn a corner, do you feel motion? When you turn a corner on the motorway, you slow down to what, 20mph/30mph? You notice that you’re turning don’t you? When you turn left, your body leans to the right and vice versa. The earth, as we’re told, is roughly turning, counter clockwise at 1,000mph. Think about that?
Mike D,
“To those simpletons who believe this garbage, know this: the whole “flat earth” psyop came out of nowhere in 2013, and started as a joke at the Tavistock Institute, the world’s premiere brainwashing and social engineering agency.”
No, in fact, everyone believed the earth to, correctly, be a PLANE(T) until the idea of HELIOCENTRISM came about, from freemasons.
Les Visible,
“I would wonder why if Earth is flat all the other planets are round. Why are comets round? Why are asteroids basically spheroid?”
And you’ve seen them? Comets? Asteroids? I saw them to, on Star Wars and all the other, movies released by Hollywod.
Yukon Jack
“The purpose of flat earth psyop is to discredit real conspiracy research”.
Really?
So Yukon, if someone wanted to make the life of people, utterly worthless, how about promoting the idea that they are like a grain of sand, on a beach, itself a grain of sand on a bigger beach, itself a grain of sand….and so on? If you wanted to unite the world under one government and create a world defense force, from all nations, to fight against an infinite number of aliens, what better way that to create planets, galaxies and universes? I mean, once you’ve completely destroyed all the Emmanuel Goldsteins on earth, then who else is there to fool the public into fighting, thus killing a large majority of them, sewing discord, creating civil and societal unrest and profiting greatly?
You are an incredible thinker, but you’re trapped in Zacharia Sitchin fantasy, planet X, Nibiru and all the other nonsense that he tells us about.
Bob Smith,
Well done, your reply could have come out of the NASA BOOK OF INDOCTRINATION 101.
To all of you promoting heliocentrism, let me remind you about one, simple thing shall I? Everything that you promote, comes all the way from freemasonry. So, other than the fact that we know that freemasons have an ulterior motive, want to destroy the world’s population and are puppets of judaism, they’re correct on the world being a sphere?
Really people, as stated, everything you know about planets, meteors, comets, asteroids, aliens, galaxies, universes etc, were all created by science fiction writers. And you believe them.
You’re no different to those who ridicule the holocaust deniers. You’re no different to those instigating a witch hunt for the unvaxxed.
The earth IS and always has been flat. Your belief that it is a globe, is courtesy of heavy indoctrination from a very young age.
I heard Captain (?) Byrd speak in an interview; by “the land beyond the Pole”, he meant the land you can find if travelling from the USA to the Pole and then keep going beyond. (Admiral Byrd).
It is so great that you can have a discussion (no matter how stupid) without the WOKE element restricting thought.
A flea on the hour hand of a clock will not feel motion, and we are twice as slow as that. The atmosphere has PLENTY of time to keep up with 15 degrees per hour.
All this crap here was started by a Jew….HANK MAKOW…
Geddit?!.
Hank,incidently,believes the six million nonsense……
Tee Jay ‘@ Yukon Jack,
oh dear, you cite the ship disappearing over the horizon bollocks, take a binocular to the sea shore and watch a ship with the naked eye a ship heading out to sea and seeming to disappear over the horizon, then have a look thro your telescope or whatever, it will magically reappear.. because it has merely sailed out of sight .easily debunked before your very eyes! and whilst on the sea shore perhaps take a spirit level or simply hold a flat edge card or something to the horizon and you will see that the ocean in front of you, any ocean, is resolutely flat, not a tiny bit curved but perfectly flat flat flat try it and you will see with your own two eyes. now you bang on about religion and “blind” faith but you ignore your own employment of blind faith, for although you can see in front of you that the oceans are flat,
its your religious belief coupled with a blind faith that has you believing that off to the left or the right of the horizon, although you can’t see it you firmly believe that out of your sight it begins to curve! now wtf is that but employing the same “blind” faith you so vehemently condemn?
“religare” the etymology of the word religion “that by which you are bound” and you are certainly bound Mr Yukon, you con?….the world is full of cameras, everyone has one and men are floating round in “space” with them on board, so where Mr Yukon is the curve? there must be at least one real undebunkable picture of it somewhere! perhaps you would be so kind as to provide us with one.
liquid water in order that it remain where it is, has to be contained in something,
that go’s for oceans and anything capable of “holding” liquid piss pots lakes cups of coffee.
we can do it surely! we have the technology! we are on mars ffs!
so why no pictures of the bending Atlantic or pacific ocean say?
then there’s the other dumb thing you wrote, every thing else is round
(you are told by nasa and shown cartoons as “proof)
so ergo sum,
the earth must be round!
said the pool balls to the table….
Question: Where in the Bible does it say the Earth is flat? The reason I ask this question has to do with another “Biblical” theory using “Joshua’s Long Day” to “prove” that the Earth is the center of the universe, that the galaxies etc. revolve around the Earth. The authors of the book “The Earth is Not Moving” claim Kepler’s backing of Galileo is wrong because Kepler’s mother was a witch. So Kepler is wrong because his mother was a witch????… So, where in the Bible does it say the Earth is flat… that “firmament” theory proves nothing regarding the Earth being flat. And don’t hand me that “four corners of the Earth” theory either. (If the Earth had four corners, then since parallel lines never meet the Earth would be of limitless space. The pix above shows a circular space, right, not four corners!) I want PROOF, Chapter and Verse, that the Bible says the Earth is flat! Period, end of story!
Without increasing the keyboard diarrhea too much, the problem with such theory is, it’s only theory! So, got any REAL??? No pictures of a flat earth? SUCKAS!!!
Just more Fake Evidence Appearing Real? Like so much, (corona?) there is no REAL science behind it, just doubt galore!
i am okay with both earths, flat and fat, though always believed it was round … but maybe not.
one question: are there any jews on the underside?
because if not, i will swing over the edge and join the antipodes after thoroughly disinfecting my clothes with zyklon-b.
but i harbor faint hopes, realistically speaking.
ts eliot (Burbank With a Baedeker: Bleistein With a Cigar,
https://www.poeticous.com/t-s-eliot/burbank-with-a-baedeker-bleistein-with-a-cigar?lns=f)
The rats are underneath the piles.
The jew is underneath the lot.
the last line tells me that immortal ts knew the earth is flat and that jews crawled out from the stinking underside that even the rats find disgusting.
@White Elephant
Well done Sir for your fabulous summation of some of the comments.
Just like @Andyay, l don’t say the Earth is flat or round. But l do wonder about certain anomolies which would throw doubt on the “planet” religion. I have yet to see a believable definition of “gravity” and have yet to see how a sphere with an atmosphere can exist in a vacuum.
Surely the psyop of all psyops is “the big bang” THEORY.
@ Nico X
it is not a matter of believing, but of studying
the earth is plane and it is a planet.
you fly in aeroplan plan over this planet
a very interessting video about the flat earth “A World of Deception”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAKZCTqGsI0
I’d like to add another point:
There are beyond-the-horizon radars (BTH) because normal radars can’t have enough range, usually they place radars on the top of hills or mountains for maximum coverage and range, even so the range will be limited because of the curvature of earth. So to overcome this they use frequencies that can bounce off the ionosphere and reach greater distances.
In 2015 I visited an Iranian exhibition of radars. Passive ones, BTH ones, Phased-Array (5G based on it) ones, etc… so I can’t belive IRGC has been investing this much on BTH radars if earth was flat! Haha
White Elephant– excellent comments on this thread as well as previous threads regarding flat earth. I applaud your efforts . However it became clear very quickly that that those commenting here in opposition to flat earth reality ,don’t genuinely accept the pseudo scientific globe model. They’re gatekeeping. This isn’t an honest process of intellectual inquiry and debate on their part , rather deliberate obfuscation. How could it be possible for truthseekers here , that have Red Pilled themselves on so many other deceptions and displayed such an exceptional level of intelligence and critical analysis in their commentary on other issues, go completely off the rails regarding flat earth. It can’t be denial and cognitive dissonance impeding the process , so I can only conclude the contempt displayed toward this topic is a trolling operation.
They know that we’ll never revert back to the ridiculous heliocentric globe model. Once a person has escaped the sorcerer’s spell it can never be effectively recast. Their goal is to steer any flat earth neophyte away from the truth through derisive bombardment , contempt and confusion.
Please baller trolls , stop with the same feeble attempts to discredit flat earth reality , it’s embarrassing. Flat earth is not a psyop created to discredit legitimate conspiracy research , it’s another layer of deception. I heard the same BS argument regarding 9/11 , back in 2004 during the GW Bush administraion Iraq WMD lie . The fake anti- war protesters would claim that crazy 9/11 conspiracy theories were tainting the legitimate anti -war movement. The evidence disproved official 9/11 fable , just as it disproves the globe earth.
A ship doesn’t disappear over horizon due to curvature. it’s angular size decreases with distance to the point where the naked eye can no longer resolve it. You can bring it back into view with binoculars or zoom camera. If it had disappeared due to curvature , no amount of magnification would bring it back.
There’s no difference between what NASA shows you and an episode of Star Trek. Outer space is fake. Satellites are high altitude balloons and aircraft. NASA is the largest consumer of helium in the world . Hmm?
Stop with the sun, moon , and planets are round argument. When you see a round orange or grapefruit on a tree it doesn’t prove earth is round.
Ships don’t navigate using globe earth math , they use a linear based grid system.
Military weapon systems are designed for operation on a geostationary plane. Can you imagine the targeting nightmare if the earth was spinning at a 1000 mph ?
Still wondering how rivers and canals work on a globe . Going uphill for first half of length and downhill second half. Have not seen this addressed by the ballers , even though this issue has been raised numerous times in past comments. I guess we crazy flat earthers shouldn’t be asking these troublesome questions.
@ lewis jones
I’m anxiously awaiting the promised unveiling of the 48 fallacies of flat earth compilation .
When you use the globe as a map the distances between any two points are correct, as “discovered” every day by people in ships, aeroplanes, lorries, cars, etc. Flat Earthers waste a lot of our time and credibility; they are only a burden to us, a small tragedy, a liability, in origin a work of the enemy, ultimately murderers, mental cases, abusers, nothing good.
To Markie–you seem to be the worst one. I did not promise, I said if I thought it was worth my time. It is not, but I will offer proofs here and there in line with the energy I can spare for this arrested-development problem. You were invited to consider the problems when you were at junior school. You would have become immune to the clownish illusions.
Tony O’Neill,
Thank you for your politeness and not jumping down my throat like everyone else. I believe common courtesy is always needed in conversation. Simply put your reasoning forward while in debate and let others decide. Give them the option.
So many people, here, instantly attack others who mention anything contrary to the heliocentrism. It’s really sad.
And yes, the big bang theory is a joke. We’re supposed to be spinning around a sun, moving forward in the milky way, travelling at millions of miles from the initial big bang, yet the constellations have remained exactly the same for thousands of years?
It’s a lie, all of it. Another layer of control and nothing more. Keeping people ignorant and stupid on reality which is a certain group/family of people, wanting complete control over anyone, for financial and safety reasons.
markie,
Thank you and yes, it’s obvious that most of these people are gatekeeping and I’ve mentioned this before in that if they are truthseekers, awake to WW2, the holocaust (and long before going back to Oliver Cromwell, Great Plague, Great Fire, readmission of the jews etc), moonlanding, JFK, 9/11 etc how can they not see the simplicity that we live on a very large plane, not a plane(t)?
Once you it back and think about FE it makes complete sense. Added to that bringing ships back into view once they go over the horizon. I’ve even posted videos (as you’ll have seen) of oil platforms, miles out at see that should partially be hidden below the horizon.
It is cognitive dissonance.
They fail to see that they’ve been psy-op’d from a very young age – globe earths in the classrooms, TV programs, movies, comics…heck the world has gone daft with Marvel, as that’s now the mainstay of film excellence – utter pish! Everything they watch is fantasy!
I simply open the door and ask them if they’d like to step in. Don’t believe me, do your own research and you’ll find what I say to be true. I could write a lot more on this but I’m not going to. I don’t need to. I don’t need to convince people. I just need to convince myself because that, in life, is all that really matters. Succeeding, being good at anything, whether sports, cooking, music, critical thinking, is all a battle against one’s self. If people want to believe what they want to believe, I really don’t care anymore. Their unwillingness to educate themselves and break the chains that bind them to a false reality, will only lead to problems down the road for them. I’m getting out of society as soon as I can, but I just have a few financial loose ends to tie up. Once done, I’m gone. Hey, I might even try to get past Antarctica and see what’s beyond the ice wall. Now that would be an adventure.
Who cares what shape it is. What matters is getting rid of the tribe that owns it all.
@مقداد وفائی
The septuagint was originally written in Greek and compiled by Greeks… most of it stolen from ancient Babylon, Hebrew being more or less a dead language by that time..(it still is, like welsh it is merely a facsimile forever being redefined by ignorant ‘zealots’).. so if I were you I wouldn’t look to validate your own books through that ‘compendium’.. (I know it’s difficult once you’ve commited yourself to idiocy)..
Saducees and Pharisees spoke Aramaic or Greek.. like yankees speak English..
your comment reminds me of that australian imbecile who believes that there is meaning and prophecy in reversed speech… (he probably also thinks the worlds a pancake)…
like most of ’em on here you are probably 77th…
How do Flat Earthers explain, for example, the lunar cycle, the solar eclipse, the differing time zones, the seasons, the lengthening and shortening of the days, the counter-seasonality of the two hemispheres, the fact that different heavenly bodies can be seen in the two hemispheres, etc, within their model?
FE is such an obvious psy-op, designed to discredit and engender ridicule and derision of all those who question the official consensus. It exists for precisely the same reason that Icke and his shape-shifting reptilians and shouty Alex Jones exist.
Should you ever choose to emigrate
To lands beyond the Antarctic wall,
It’s better that you know, the women there
Are all upwards of twelve foot tall;
Pterodactyls perch on your window-sill
And one full hide of a wooly mammoth
Is just a pair of underpants to a giant.
To Markie–humans solve Physics problems, but here we are also having to solve psychological ones about people’s ability to create problems out of nothing. Here I will solve a problem that your brain created: if, in your mind, the canal goes “uphill” for the first half (I resent this wasting of my time) and “downhill” for the second half, using the ugly xunt xwat of a brain in your ugl…well, you know…where are you placing the halfway point and changing from “uphill” to downhill”? Our world needs ten generations of eugenics to rid itself of you lot. I hate you tremendously. Answer the question under your rock or wherever you want.
Facepalm (and everyone else),
The sun and the moon both rotate clockwise around the equator, rising, falling and moving north into the Tropic of Cancer and South into the Tropic of Capricorn. This is how your seasons work.
Eric Dubay: How Seasons Work On Flat Earth
Eric Dubay: Sun, Moon and Stars PROVE the Flat Earth!
Eric Dubay Flat Earth
https://www.bitchute.com/video/gfxInvPPthmk/
FLAT EARTH-THE SUN IS LOCAL!!!,SLAM DUNK PROOF!!!
THE BLACK SUN
100% PROOF OF LOCAL SUN
Why this Flat Earth video is important Proves, 100%, there is no curvature on the earth.
GoFast – Rocket hits the sky firmament
There are many more videos and web pages as people are waking up and fast. It’s like the hundred monkey effect. It’s also a case that what’s happening today, is happening because TPTB know we are and therefore, another major cull is taking place to stop the masses waking up and overthrowing them. They have to cull billions (again) and put the younger generations, back into drone mode, through their cultural Marxist indoctrination. They’ve done this many, many times. This is how they stay in power.
You will watch the videos above and still, regardless of blatant proof, laugh, ridicule and deny the blatant existence of what you’re seeing – a flat earth.
And I will, again, quote Yuri Bezmenov in his 1984 interview with G Edward Griffin:
“(10:51) The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already. For the last twenty-five years, actually it’s over-fulfilled because the demoralization now reaches such areas where previously not even comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is done by Americans to Americans thanks to lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures. Even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him concentration camp he will refuse to believe it until he is going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When the military boot crashes his, then he will understand, but not before that. That’s the tragic of the situation of demoralization.”
Source
You still do not get it.
You have been lied to about pretty much EVERYTHING about your existence. All you know about space and beyond, is one, big, psy-op. And you’ve swallowed it hook, line and sinker. And your history? The very same – 99% BS!
To Fart Effluent–I have seen all the videos, starting with—no wait, why should I repeat myself to the deaf git? The clouds are all in front of the sun in the spastic’s video but some parts of some are made invisible by the brightness of the sun, as anyone who has been on Earth a few years should know.
@ lewis jones
Wow ,,you might want to switch to decaf coffee mate !
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you’re not just trolling about the river/ canal issue and respond. If you’re having a problem visualizing , get a ball , round piece of fruit or even the outside of a bucket. Put a piece of tape on it or draw a line . That will represent a river or canal . Look at it from the side. A river or canal of any length , in any direction, point A to point B has a central hump . Yet there are rivers in this world that go hundreds of km while only descending a few meters. There are topographical maps to prove it.
The Mississippi river is 3770 km long and only descends 450 meters in elevation over that entire distance. Using baller math it should have to ascend hundreds of thousands of meters to halfway point in St. Louis and then descend hundreds of thousands of meters down to Gulf of Mexico . Absurd. Also the elevation of 450 meters at its source / headwaters in Minnesota is measured in height above SEA LEVEL, because the ocean surface is LEVEL.That’s why the ocean is used as a reference for elevation , because it’s a constant. The globe earth concept dies on river / canal issue alone.
You’re right about promising the 48 flat earth fallacies. You said you would present it if you thought it was worth your time. It’s interesting that you have the time to type sentence after sentence insulting me , but not the time to post a few of your 48 fallacies. Just post a couple at a time. Why did you bring this up to begin with if you’re unwilling to unveil them ? Not much sincerity it that.
Markie–I will answer your infantile questions one or two at a time, which is all it takes to get infuriated with you lot, who should never dare to speak. TTS has important things to consider, yet you are willing to pollute all minds with your incapacity and paranoia.
When the tyrants are overthrown and freedom of thought is restored as the foundational principle of all civic discourse, we will be able to resolve such eminently calculable disputations of geodesy as the physical shape and dimensions of our planet.
Quite why such an investment of passion proceeds from a disputation of geodetics, is something of a conundrum to me. I’m not saying that the globe vs flat earth controversy isn’t an important consideration. On the contrary, I think it’s of primary import because entire systems of conventional science depend on the orthodoxy of spheroidal metrics.
The debate itself is logically flawed because the advocates on both sides make continuous appeal to inductive reasoning to support favoured biases, where they begin with the preferred model or, strictly speaking, they begin with the preferred answer, then marshal the data to best accommodate their pet hypothetical. This is much more so, the case for proponents of the globe earth, who seem too much smitten by the 20th century scientific modalities, which ensued from the Copernican/ Cartesian reformations. A question globe earthers should ask of themselves but generally don’t, is who funded Descartes: who facilitated Copernicus?
It strikes me as implausibly ironical, therefore, that globe earth fundamentalists dismiss the flat earth proposition, perfunctorily, as a psy-op, while they’ve made no significant enquiry into the prime movers behind the globe model’s primacy.
For sure, Langley and Tavistock have had their input into flat earth logistics, for the usual purposes of misdirection and distraction but I say that the intelligence services have had a significantly greater input into mainstream geodetic physics. Deny that and you’re a fool.
From a historical perspective (and I’m a trained historian,) the much greater likelihood, in fact, is that the globe earth, (not the flat earth,) is a core deceit and an institutionalized psy-op, precisely because of its very recent elevation to establishment favour and, to date, its epochal brevity as a theory. The millenia-long endurance of the flat earth model, throughout antiquity and during many an era of great upheaval, surviving as it did, unchallenged in its solidity, despite the rising and falling of antagonistic cultures and empires, is something that should not be ignored. Those who weigh the knowledge of a mere half a millenium against 5,500 years of continuity in human thought, I would say are the ones who are gambling in this game.
You can’t retrospectively call out the entire spectrum of high-learning inculcated by the Vedic, Sumerian, Egyptian, Ancient Chinese and Mayan civilizations as a psy-op. Especially when, by Occam’s longevity razor, the globe model is much the more likely to be a contrivance. Furthermore, global earth advocacy relies upon scientific prognostications that, in any other field of enquiry, would not be so readily taken on truth.
We all know that useful scientific enquiry, in the great educational institutes of the world, is now as absent and impoverished through corruption, as the science engaged in the laboratories of the corporations. Natural Philosophy, in our times, is neither honest nor noble.
For my part, all arguments which proceed from an appeal to Einstein’s physics and his imposter phantom, “gravity” are immediately rendered in my mind as spurious and redundant. Unidirectional energy doesn’t exist in cosmic ether-dynamics. There is always reciprocal polarity of energies. Why would someone who, in a different context, expresses doubts about the validity of the physics of E=mc2, rely upon its novel innovations, in the context of geodetics? It would seem inconsistent intellectually to me. All globe earth advocates rely on Einstein, else their arguments have no material credibility.
I’m not a proponent of the flat earth model either, though, as I mentioned in my first post. I simply don’t think that the currently available data can prove either hypothesis indisputably. It’s one of the reasons that I’m beguiled by the strength of feeling of the participants in the debate, particularly on the part of the copernicans. An unnecessarily antagonistic dialectic abounds when the shape of the Earth is discussed, which seems rather implausible because neither theory can be validated until authentic photography or video of the planet from space is within the bounds of our technological capabilities. I know that of itself is a problematic claim for many people. I know of no authentic-resolution photography taken from above the Earth’s atmosphere.
It seems to me that toroidal (or vortex) physics is never addressed in the globe vs flat earth toing and froing; electro-magnetic dynamics are only ever touched upon and no one has yet attempted to reconcile either model of the Earth, to a foundational ether cosmology.
Why should either side be correct? Bandying “disinformation” accusations at each other is counter-productive and quite futile when the spy politics of Jesuit adjutants, like Copernicus, haven’t been fully explored.
I’ll leave you with a polemical aside, for your provocation or titillation. If you were to factor in, the physics of crystal geometry, into the geodesy of planets, then there is no reason whatsoever to preclude the possibility that the Earth could be cubic or rhombic or ovoid or pyramidal in shape, nor even that the Earth could be sunken into the concave cavity of a geode.
Lewis Jones,
I’ve purposefully ignored you, because you’re incredibly rude and arrogant. I’ve no time debating with you, because there’s nothing to debate. You cannot refute any of the arguments. You are clearly a troll.
“The clouds are all in front of the sun in the spastic’s video….”
Really?
And the video of the man sitting in the plane on his trip from Atlanta to Toronto?
And how, precisely, are you going to explain away 12 Actual Landmarks That Can Only Be Seen on a Flat Earth, when all should be hidden under the earth’s curvature?
And the ‘go-fast’ rocket that suddenly stops rotating when it hits the firmament (magnetic field around the earth) – how do you explain that? What could make something, traveling and spinning that fast suddenly stop, with absolutely no damage to it?
And finally, listen to someone, far more and infinitely more wise and intelligent than you could ever hope to be:
SANTOS BONACCI FLAT EARTH
I used to respect you Lewis Jones. Now I see you either as incredibly stupid, or purposefully trolling to confuse reality. Either way, this is my last reply to you. I’ve absolutely no more time to waste on you.
So many globetards on this site !?
To Elephant–I had 90 minutes of Bonacci yesterday, speaking to Craig at FTFE, where we can hear all the Flat Earthers for entertainment. I saw why I am so angry about this but then forgot. I hope the information will contribute to a eugenics programme, but we see that dysgenics is preferred by the Scum. Your minds don’t work.
I indulged FE from May 26 to Oct 7 2015; I heard Eric Dubay, Mark Sargent, Waykiwayki and Jeranism on the first day, and then Subirats, Patricia Steere, Orphan Red, Lawrence somebody from Leeds, Ranty Flat Earth, Flat Earth British, a bloke in Blackpool who used dramatic music, and I still listen to the de-bunkers FTFE, Conspiracy Catz, Scimandan, Professor Dave, Brainy Beaver: I know all these people inside-out, and the FE people have nothing to say and their personality problems are always revealed. Bonacci threatened FTFE with death and had no Science. Gravity is not understood yet and has to be a push, in my opinion, and so do all other forces. This is to Elephant (today I am not angry–my back injury may have caused some of my anger as I limp hunched over in agony all day)
I wrote quite a lot more and hope it appears.
Although we do not understand gravity yet, except secretly, it is what gives a planet its sphericity; the magnetic field does not come into it. The rotation has it bulge a tiny bit in the middle. Gravitons (let’s say) hit the Earth from all angles non-stop. Under your feet 8000 miles of crap stops them hitting you, so the net motion of you is the other way. Same for all other objects. Real physics will need to understand the magical world.