whistleblowers have told us of small boys smuggled into the white house for obama and michael to
” play with ”
the covid scam
the holocaust all found to be bullshit
and now the moon landings
what did they not lie about
fake
on February 4, 2022 at 9:43 am
the number one reason this comes across as a fraud is that he’s putting it on ‘social’ media. if he had anything at all beyond what is already known he’d sell it to the highest bidder for millions. instead, he shoves his ‘book’ in your face continuously, makes out he’s a ‘feature film maker’, and never provides a single bit of proof. he’s pathetically trying to force his way into podcasts. podcasts ffs! if those people won’t touch him, what does that tell you? all he has is an ‘eye witness’ to the recordings, who he won’t say anything about, who is dead, and who’s ‘relatives are in danger’ if he tells you anything about them. these ‘relatives’ want the world to know, but they don’t want anyone to know who they are! (ie. they don’t exist.) it goes without saying that he claims to be a ‘journalist’ (when he’s not a ‘feature film maker’), and that everyone is stomping on the ‘freedom of the press’. most absurdly, he claims that if ‘this comes out’ the entire world will change. “can you tell us what the cia code name for the operation was?” “you know, you’ll have to read the book to find that out”………..
White Elephant
on February 4, 2022 at 9:54 am
Of course they faked it. No one has ever left the earth. What’s outside the earth is liquid. Just look at the stars through camera/telescope. They are exactly the same as putting a cup of water onto a speaker. They vibrate, osscilate at certain frequencies.
As the Bible says God separated the waters.
But onto the moon landing, even Neil Armstrong, on a late night chat show, said we didn’t see them on the moon. It was acting, all of it, filmed by Jew Kubrick.
book seller
on February 4, 2022 at 10:03 am
At some point he says he phoned someone up on a top secret “scrambled phone line” and that person said “is this about the video conference with so and so”, where so and so died two years earlier. If the phone line was “scrambled” how did he manage to phone it from his end? And what he says the super important military person said is like those old movies where a dog runs up to a person and the person says “what! jack is trapped down the mine and the roof will collapse in 39 minutes!!”. Why would the super important military person spout out a secret on a “scrambled” phone line without even asking who he was speaking to? This guy has just taken all the existing stuff, made up some conveniently dead eyewitness, and is trying to sell it to the highest bidder. Oh, and don’t forget the book.
Carl Jones
on February 4, 2022 at 10:04 am
They most likely faked Apollo 11, later missions were probably real. They have a black space program which uses anti-gravity tech. This is why a very high proportion of UFO sittings are terrestrial.
Are they all US, or are there other nations flying these craft? The UK is definitely involved, but are they just your usual US franchise?
We live in a “Closed system” we can NOT leave this Earth as the dome shaped firmament above us is “Rock hard.”
In 1962 the devil`s lying children (let`s call them what they are) sent rockets up to the top of the dome and exploded atomic bombs trying to break the firmament, which they could not do.
The Word of God declares that we live on a FLAT EARTH.
We do NOT live on a Globe which is spinning at 1,000 mph.
We do NOT live on a Globe which is hurtling through space at 67,000 mph.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/cAEOM41wkSwu/
The Word of God states that we are living on a FLAT AND STATIONARY PLANET.
We live under a dome shaped “FIRMAMENT”……….
Genesis 1:6 – 8.
6. And God said, Let there be a FIRMAMENT in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7. And God made the FIRMAMENT, and divided the waters which were under the FIRMAMENT from the waters which were above the FIRMAMENT: and it was so.
8. And God called the FIRMAMENT Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
> What’s outside the earth is liquid.
> As the Bible says God separated the waters.
Eh? I see you’re one of those religious people who thinks god created everything and that the centre of all creation is man (and that all other life is there for man to “use”). But liquid? Why on earth do you think that?
lewis jones
on February 4, 2022 at 10:23 am
The Jew does not want to acknowledge a Nazi achievement, or an American one. At the time they (the Jews) supported the USSR.
stop laughing
on February 4, 2022 at 10:27 am
This guy is annoying. He’s constantly fake laughing, like whatever he’s saying is the funniest thing he’s ever heard, despite the fact that it isn’t, and that he must have said it hundreds of times while trying to sell his book.
The following offical International organisations have one thing in common:
1: United Nations.
2: World Health Organisation.
3: International Maritime Organisation.
4: World Meteorological Organisation.
5: International Civil Aviation Organisation.
They use the “Flat earth map” as their Logo.
Are they “Stupid” or are they telling us something ???
ellis c taylor
on February 4, 2022 at 10:39 am
Alfred Hitchcock filmed the scenes for the jewish bolocaust
and the jew kubrick filmed the fake here too
its all smoke and mirrors
jews have a saying ” dont look here look there ”
mon landings ? as fake as the bollocaust
I have a friend who believes in “Flat Earth”; like White Elephant his political intuitions are more acute than 99 % of the people. So I know there are people who genuinely believe it. My take is that “Flat Earth” was taken from the middle ages and refashioned as a psyop to discredit irrefutable proof of the hoaxed landings.
By conflating “Flat Earth” with the Apollo Hoax, TPTB hope to discredit those that hold to the latter. I did observe for a certain period that most Apollo Hoax videos on YouTube with a high searchability always tended to have flat earth “theory” attached to it.
“A man persuaded against his will is of the same opinion still.” Nevertheless, the most straightforward demonstration of the error of flat earth for me is one based on trigonometry involving the altitude of the sun at various latitudes AT THE SAME TIME. I am aware that “latitude” for flat earthers corresponds to distance from a the central point or periphery of Antarctica – but “latitude” is something that can be agreed for the purposes of measurement.
Dont encourage these flat earthers theyll only clog up the comment section.
For example the nutter who quotes the bible a book written a few thousand years ago with a lot of its content stolen from the Babylonians and Ancient Egyptians.
A load of TRIPE in other words
Mike D
on February 4, 2022 at 1:48 pm
@White Elephant
Stop making yourself the laughing stock of these posts by persistently pushing the flat earth mockery or delusion. We may or may not have been to the moon, but we certainly have been to outer space since Gagarin, and thousands of missions have been flown since then. I don’t know why I even have to state this, but when discussing such matters with astoundingly ignorant folk, one has to start at the basics.
I am puzzled as to why anyone enjoys playing the village buffoon or idiot making childish claims about flat earth, space being filled with water, etc etc. When it comes to these silly claims, some of us have to grow up … regressive infantilism is a terrible psychological ailment.
Lerch
on February 4, 2022 at 1:55 pm
Robert Purnell do you have a lightning bolt protruding out from each side of your neck? The flat earth theory is a con job put out by the CIA; just one more rabbit hole to fall into; more endless BS. All those facts you provide are right out of NASA playbook. Who got conned here?
Researcher David McGown wrote a paper about the moon landing hoax titled Wagging the Moon Doggie.
Ghost Who Walks
on February 4, 2022 at 3:00 pm
It’s amazing that people are still so hopped up on this. Those who think that NASA went to the moon back in the day of the pocket calculator will never be discouraged from their idiotic, but relatively harmless (to them) belief. Everyone else already knows better.
“B…buu….BUT, why would they lie to us?”
Why does anybody lie?
Especially to sheeple?
Especially with billions of dollars just asking to be shunted into off-budget black operations?
Especially when the instant lie supports other lies.
All you need to know is that official stories may always be assumed to be lies.
It matters less HOW they did it than WHY it was done and what it accomplished.
What is more important might be asking why they are so against lead and tobacco (and maybe reefer), while pushing mRNA vaxxed, water fluoridation, television, etc.
2009 Van Allen probes documented an acceleration event in the electron belt (s.) Intensity of radiation increased by a factor of 1,000 in 12 hours. Look it up, then realize NASA had no way of knowing the radiation levels on launch, or return, days. You have to be in the plane of orbit of the Earth-Moon system, to reach the Moon. You have to fly through the radiation belts. Also note the 2013 LRO measurement of radiation from the Moon is “30 to 40 percent higher” than what we were told for decades. From atoms split on the surface by cosmic rays. Look it up.
dum-shytes are everywhere
on February 4, 2022 at 4:05 pm
There’s so many red flags on the “moon landings” – I have zero respect for anyone that believes them at this point – it simply means you have a lazy mind and care nothing about the truth. Or maybe you’re just fat dumb and lazy.
It only takes one fact or observation to destroy a hypothesis, it’s how science works.
Here’s 4
1. Van Allen Belts
2. Photo of “earth from moon surface” showing it the same size as the moon would appear from earth, with no fish-eyeing of the lens therefore it was not a wide angle shot. Look up the difference in diameters of the 2 bodies.
3. Nasa said they had no fuel on re-entry – ever seen a meteor? these are hard space rocks.
4. All original footage gone – nas-holes said they taped over it or Lost it. Hmm, seems like a vaguely important event.
As a microbiologist who worked on the thing, I have zero respect for anyone that thinks corona had a more virulent variant – doctor evil lab theory impossible… autoimmunity from anti-vaccine – very likely in fact it’s a given.
secret agent man
on February 4, 2022 at 4:21 pm
> The flat earth theory is a con job put out by the CIA
And why pray tell? I don’t dispute the fakery, but why the cia?
jahi sami
on February 4, 2022 at 4:24 pm
Sextant is the proof. Flat horizon and 90 degree angle to use a sextant not an arc. It is Flat and No moon landing
Mystic and Yogi
Nico X
on February 4, 2022 at 4:26 pm
And if the Nazis won the war, you would now be traveling to colonies on the Moon & Mars…but since the regressive moronic Christian-Communist Allies won, we are still stuck on the planet of the Apes..
Robert
on February 4, 2022 at 5:25 pm
David Weiss (Sun,moon and zodiac clock app) offers 3 Bit coin for just one scientific proof of the globe earth. He is good for it.
Why doesn’t Mike D,Lerch,et al take him up on it? Easy money! Take the sucker. I dare you. The only requirement is intellectual honesty.
I bet you lose!
Please don’t cop out by saying you wouldn’t waste your time etc.
Timothy Dunlap
on February 4, 2022 at 5:28 pm
Sigh. LRO in 2013 and radiation from atoms split by cosmic rays on the surface. 2009 Van Allen probes, the 12 hour acceleration event in the electron belt. Look it up.
andyay
on February 4, 2022 at 5:45 pm
Maat or “space” as the Egyptians conceived of it, was primal water. This was the preferred philosophic understanding of “space,” throughout the entirety of the history of human thought, until very recently.
When Einstein claimed that space was curved in proportion to the physical mass occupying it, he reinvented the time-honoured analogy, to fashion “space” as an empty interval, or a distance the measurement of which is calibrated upon a putative maximal velocity for light, (to measure the nothingingness, between the physically manifest stars or planets,) it was then that the wisdom of the ages was surrendered to the post-war jewish zeitgeist, a dastardly masquerade, which has, ever since, limited the scope of physical sciences enquiry.
The ancients didn’t believe that the properties of space were the same as the properties of water, just that water provided the best analogy or similitude for understanding the substance housing the planet Earth.
In a disputation between modern, semitic modelling (as typified by Einstein) and the tradition of scientific understanding, passed down ancestrally, from greatest antiquity, with epochal endurance, I think, frankly, that you have to be a bloody fool to opt for the plagiarizing patents clerk, Einstein over all the wisdom of the ancients. Modern science should learn some humility.
Bob Smith
on February 4, 2022 at 6:18 pm
Mike D at 1:48 pm-
My understanding of space is that the earth is a sphere, Flat Earth is a CIA psyop to get people arguing among themselves instead of looking behind the scenes and discovering that almost everyone is Jewish or a Freemason and most became very rich. The ‘Apollo Astronauts’ were just gentile windowdressing to fool the gullible masses. That All American Neil Armstrong was the mask of a Satanic hoax. It goes on with the fake international space station, take a good look at the fake ISS, would anyone have all those wires and electronic devices hanging about or allow women with long permed into a cartoonish mountain or why do they keep doing the same routines.
Bart Sibrel, like Bill Kaysing and Ralph René gets almost everything right when talking about the moon landings. Unlike Kaysing and René, Sibrel is a weirdo dining out on the hoax for decades. If you thin he is wrong about something, like the notorious stencil of the earth in a round window, then give us an actual example of where he is wrong. Yuri Gagarin never went to space, no one has been to space and nothing has been to space: astronauts, space probes, Mars landers, Voyager and the biggest laugh of all is that Russia sent landers to Venus. The Hubble Space Telescope is actually the Sophia telescope at the back of a NASA 747.
If you think anyone went to space or there are satellites in space, or NASA sent probes to the planets then kindly present even one actual photograph of the earth from space, or a fly-by of Venus, Saturn, Jupiter or the moon. Every single one is either a painting or CGI. There are no exceptions. Show us an image of a satellite in space that isn’t fake, a CGI hoax and tell us what or who took the picture.
If anyone or anything went to space, why not take a picture of the earth? Why has there never been a non-stop video of more than a few minutes of a rocket ‘going into space’ or why has there never been a ‘space walk’ that wasn’t a ridiculous hoax in a studio or a swimming pool?
Espico
on February 4, 2022 at 6:50 pm
This is for the Globe Earthers; explain this: every 24 hours is 360 degrees of rotation, causing day and night., constant, no change. Every 365.25 days, the earth revolves around the sun. Why don’t we experience flipping of day and night every 6 months when the globe earth is supposed to be at opposite ends of the revolution cycle?
dwd
on February 4, 2022 at 7:09 pm
Robert Purnell:
If you take time to look at the moon through an inexpensive backyard telescope, you can clearly perceive that it is a globe and that its surface is pocked with craters. You can also see Jupiter and Saturn well enough to perceive that they are globes as well. Or are telescopes just rigged up this way to fool us?
Also, I suppose you don’t fly for fear of flying off the edge of the disk. Please keep in mind that the pilots that fly the planes are navigating on the basis of a globe-shaped earth, or are they fooling us too?. I wouldn’t fly if I were you.
I wouldn’t sail farther out than the sight of land either…I’m a sailor, and I’ve studied celestial navigation some (certainly no expert), but I will say that celestial navigation is based on the concept of a spinning, globe-shaped Earth.
Finally, I’m curious as to how this works in practice…why for instance aren’t people dropping off the edge everyday…and, when they do, to where do they drop?
What holds up the disk? And what’s on the underside of it?
Just because the media constantly lies and deceives those who follow it doesn’t mean that everything we were taught in school was a lie. Have you considered that this promotion of “flat-earth theory” is promoted by the Illuminati (which includes the CIA and MI5 and other “intelligence agencies” to make those of us out to be rubes and and total fools and thus completely destroy any credibility of our critiques in the minds of the sheeple?
We’re in a life-and-death struggle here, man…pull yourself together!!!!
mars
on February 4, 2022 at 7:43 pm
@ Nico X
> And if the Nazis won the war, you would now be traveling to colonies on the Moon & Mars
The only reason to go to mars is to get away from the humans. If they were there then it would be pointless.
I agree with most of what you say, but I believe many of the so called Voyager pictures may have been taken by telescopes from earth. In addition to your scepticism about probes, I might add that credible pictures taken “from probes” with planets backlit by the sun are not forthcoming; why ?
I’m also 50/50 on whether the photos of the “dark side of the moon” are genuine too.
If I understand you correctly, this arises because a sidereal day and solar day are of different lengths.
The earth rotates on it’s axis after 24 hours, but because of its revolving around the sun, the position of the earth to the background stars is not exactly the same as was 24 hours previously. It takes 23 hours 56 minutes because of movement around the sun for an observer to see the same stellar background as they did the “previous day”. So a sidereal day is shorter than a solar day.
@Mike D give us some proof? You say a lot of nothing.
Derek Felton
on February 4, 2022 at 8:13 pm
Stanley Kubricks films – The Shining and Room 237 both reference the Apollo missions (Statue of Liberty – Sun God – washington DC, The City, London and the Vatican all have egyptian obelisks in front of domes – it is pagan male/female sun worship). Every truther has heard of eyes wide shut. Fake moon is just a short hop from 911 – was for me anyway. 2001 space odyssey with arthur c clarke was the warm up. https://archive.factordaily.com/behind-the-scenes-of-space-odyssey/
Course Dave McGowan is a great read – “Wagging the moon doggie” is hilarious https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/ and “Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops, and the Dark Heart of the Hippie” is a classic rabbit hole. Agree with the comments about this guy in the vid though. Totally agree with white elephant and robert above – the bible is explicit in defining the earth as immovable – it can not be moved ! Heliocentrism is a jesuit invention. Truth is flat earth is a bridge too far for most people. Some of the best entertainment ive had is watching the ubergeeks ripping the iss fiasco apart. never a straight answer. freemason astronots.What did the clever nazi Werner Von Braun have on his tombstone ?
Psalm 19
1 To him that excelleth. A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God,
and the firmament sheweth ye work of his hands.
it.https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/wernher-von-braun/DwGntv4iztce4A
Here’s a nice map for you to ponder along with the trips to antarctica of Klaus the evil santa and his freak show goons like the EU commissioner, and dreggs like skull and bones kerry – a lot going on at that frozen little island ? https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:7h149v85z
Didn’t the nazis find neue schwabenland ! The worlds biggest bifocal is named Lucifer and is owned by you know who. Don’t forget that Galileo and Copernicus were canons.
O
on February 4, 2022 at 8:18 pm
For me, it’s the sheer joy and exuberance that the triumphant trio radiate during their first press conference after the alleged lunar landings that casts doubt upon the whole enterprise.
Derek Felton
on February 4, 2022 at 8:22 pm
ps – the world is ruled by symbols. have a look at the nasa logo and tell me if you can see the forked tongue – the T in NASA.
Derek Felton
on February 4, 2022 at 8:33 pm
@dwd – the moon is the same size as the sun in the sky – another coinkidincky ? Sunlight dries and moonlight rots. It’s driven many a sailor made. How does the moon only show us one face – always the rabbit – no matter where you are on the earth? – another coinckidincky ? And why does she rotate slowly like a watchface ? what for that matter is the lunar wave ? and how on earth(pun) do you get every meteorite to hit its “globe” surface at a perfect right angle ? so many questions for the globeheads – ha ha ha
Franz
on February 4, 2022 at 8:51 pm
@ Lerch —
Dave died before he could work it up in book format. The whole of it is as long as most books anyway.
Start at his first paper, there’s a link at the bottom of the page for each new chapter. It is a long, but very interesting read:
Moon landing is fake . The whole space program is fake. Go to bitchute , type in ISS hoax , grab some popcorn and watch the comedy show that is the Intl. Space Station. There is no outer space as portrayed by NASA [National Academy of Space Actors ]
” Space may be the final frontier but it’s made in a Hollywood basement”
— Red Hot Chili Peppers song lyrics – Californication
They love to taunt us through entertainment industry — music , movies. They mock the public while fulfilling their Satanic obligation to announce their deceptions.
@ white elephant and robert purnell
Correct , we’re living in a closed system . Stars and planets are luminaries and very close – within the firmament. Watch video taken with zoom camera . Do these dancing lights look like distant suns and planets ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FI7gvdkkQ0
Go to 7:08 mark of this video–. rocket hits firmament. There have been other reports of similar incidents. This is being done intentionally . They want us to know. https://www.bitchute.com/video/c6eEyx1B1DZ8/
No proof we live on spinning ball . NASA ball earth photos are fake . They’re poor quality artwork with intentional anomalies to f **k with us , e.g. N. America is drastically different sizes in different photos.
The natural properties of water alone disproves the ball earth model. The surface of any body of water is level. That’s why the ocean is used as a reference for altitude because of constant height .- A mountain is X feet above Sea Level. The term sea level has no meaning on a ball. There is no level on a ball.
If the magical force of gravity is holding the oceans tight to a spinning ball , then the oceans should be locked in place. How do we explain all of the independent movement of water in any direction with the tiniest amount of force. Why doesn’t gravity prevent a minnow from swimming freely if it can control the massive tonnage of water . If the ocean water is free to move independent of gravity then it should be free to fall off the ball.
How do rivers work on a ball ? If you go between any two points on a ball, point A to point B in any direction, you have a central hump. That means a river of any length would have to flow uphill to central point and then downhill the second half of distance.
Flat earth is not a psyop , globe earth and the entire Star Trek – science fiction extravaganza of black holes , dark matter ,trillions of galaxies , etc. is the psyop. All designed to take us away from a Creator. We live in an intelligently designed system. The sky is a clock. Daily sun cycle. monthly moon cycle , yearly star – constellation cycle.
BTW, evolution, starting with nonsensical Big Bang is also a scientifically bankrupt concept. No transitional fossil evidence. Abiogenesis never proven to be possible. Mathematical probability of DNA and amino acid chain codes writing themselves through random process is nil. It’s like saying the Taj Mahal was created by chance through wind and erosion.
I enjoy reading comments at this site. Sometimes I don’t even read article , just skip to comments. Most commenting here are Red Pilled on so many other issues , they should be receptive to going down additional rabbit holes.
Cognitive dissonance shouldn’t be a problem with this crowd , so no ad hominem attacks without doing the research. We’ve been deceived about everything , why isn’t it possible that we’ve been deceived about the nature of our existence on earth , the most important issue of all.
Fred B
on February 4, 2022 at 9:13 pm
Carl Jones says, “They most likely faked Apollo 11, later missions were probably real.”
If they could foresee that they could actually go there at that time, they would not have taken the chance of faking the first mission. Also, because the first alleged landing was fake then most likely they simply got more sophisticated very quickly in their fakery with the subsequent alleged missions. They made so much propaganda millage with the success of their first fake landing, getting credulous sheeple everywhere in the world to believe it was true, that they were not going to give up exploiting that tremendous boon to them both in the US and on the world stage.
Understandingly, Americans like others loyal to their nations tend to want to believe anything good their nation allegedly does and also deny anything bad. However, by the fact that they are the most powerful and richest nation in history, their responsibility ought to be greatly magnified. One would think that their duty to curb their abuses should be proportionately much greater to those of us in lesser nations essentially under their thumbs and with no real comparative powers. This is especially the case when considering all of the colossal, heinous crimes over the past 60 years the power brokers in the US have inflicted on their own people and on others with the abuses of that wealth and power.
So, in this SGT Report we finally see some small minority alt-media recognition suggesting that perhaps there is some kind of proportionality between responsibility and the amount of wealth & power the nation exercises, and especially when reviewing the quagmire of filth and corruption which has caused it to fall so low, including:
– the moon-landing hoax;
– 9/11 and the war on terror with the creation of surveillance state in all of our nations;
-WMD’s and the devastation of Iraq for oil and Israel;
– US sponsored Soros destabilizations;
– IMF & World Bank debt-rigging and takeovers of numerous foreign nations through US bankster hit men and US agency jackals, all backed up by the US military;
– continued false-flag terrorist operations;
– the recruiting, training, arming, deployment and funding of ISIS insurgents in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Philippians;
– the entire fake CO2 global warming peril;
– the US Fed and Wall Street based, rigged pump-and-dump and insider trading economy;
– the principle backers of the eugenic and the radical population reduction movement;
– the principal authors and promoters of UN Agendas 21 and 2030;
– the creators and principal disseminators of the Covid-19 bioweapon virus and
the actual authors of the script for entire plandemic, restrictions and mandates.
– the planned genocide of the weak and the unwanted through bioweapon vaccines.
Etc., etc. It will go on and on and on, long into the future likely with only very minor or controlled opposition generated in that divided nation, unless the people wake up and rise to and take back control of all of their systems.
The technological controls, brainwashing, and of all of the lies, fakery and various methods of oppression just keep becoming more and more sophisticated and pervasive, as is presently being witnessed with al of the Covid crimes against humanity. Sure, the governments of our other Western nations are participating, but the source of all of this shit is from the USA, where most of their people and just about all of their military think that anything they do is justified “to make the world a better plaice”, or to “save American lives”. This is a nation whose power structure has clearly run amok and now is making war on even its own people.
Whether it is for a New World Order with a central government located at the UN in NYC or to Make America Great Again (the latest fake dichotomy to divide and control its citizens) the power structure controlling that nation, and now our own nations, will just keep on ruling by mass deceptions, mass media brainwashing, mass fear mongering, and mass oppression.
They will just keep on marching over our faces and actually killing us unless there is a massive push-back for truth, freedom and justice.
Truthy1
on February 4, 2022 at 10:01 pm
@ fake
Albert Einstein once said, “Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.”. Yet, we see this being the default response by so many people to so many things. Rejecting something we know nothing about is staying ignorant, which means stagnancy in our evolution.
Truthy1
on February 4, 2022 at 10:16 pm
@ dwd
About pilots & flying :
Fact : A gyroscope ( standard equipment in all commercial airplanes ) operates on a constant level “plane” at all times.
Fact : pilots NEVER adjust the nose of the plane down to compensate for the Ficticious Earth curvature. ( Approx. 8″ per miles squared )
Hmmm.. Up to today, no explanation how the Astronauts went through the Van Allen belt without any harm to their bodies from radiations ?
A Van Allen radiation belt is a zone of energetic charged particles, most of which originate from the solar wind, that are captured by and held around a planet by that planet’s magnetosphere. Earth has two such belts, and sometimes others may be temporarily created. The belts are named after James Van Allen, who is credited with their discovery.
Were those Astronauts wrapped up in alumium foil for protection ??
Yukon Jack
on February 5, 2022 at 3:06 am
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So many comments…probably most have ended their reading of all of this by…but to Truthy1, if you’re still there, I ask:
1. Have you been to the edge of the “disk?”
2. If so, did you take pictures or make videos?
3. If not, have any of the flat-earthers you know or correspond with been there?
4. If you or they did, can you forward the pictures/videos to me?
4. If you haven’t been there, why not? If I were in your camp, going there would be a great aspiration
for me…definitely would be on the ol’ bucket list!
With 6-7 billion people on Earth today, you’d think at least of few thousand would have already been there by now. Those pictures would be so, so amazing!!!
dwd
on February 5, 2022 at 6:11 am
Truthy1, when you say that the nose of a plane is never pointed “down,” how do you define “down?” A better description, I think, is that, upon achieving the desired altitude, a pilot maintains a more or less constant altitude or elevation above the earth. If he does that, then he will fly parallel to the surface of the earth, be it curved or flat. I haven’t flown a plane, but I know that to do this over long distances, the pilot must make adjustments if flying over a curved surface. A pilot may do this subconsciously by glancing at the altimeter from time to time, but the pilot is doing it nevertheless. Autopilots would do this automatically by way of whatever mechanism guides them. Do you have information that autopilot manufacturer’s are going along with a rouge concerning the shape of the earth? Why would they?
Have you heard of “great-circle navigation?” This is a bedrock of navigational practice…it takes account of the curvature of the earth to determine the shortest route between two points that are long distances apart. If the earth were flat, the formulas for this would be much simpler…in fact, they wouldn’t be needed. We’d just draw a straight line on a map.
I don’t know much about gyroscopes…but just looked them up. So there’s a disk that spins in a gyroscope, and the orientation of the disk, when the disk is set spinning, is resistant to changes in orientation due to conservation of angular momentum…like a spinning bicycle wheel. I don’t see what this has to do with shape of the earth’s surface, though. The gyroscope wouldn’t know there is a surface of the earth I would think.
Water may be a better example of what you’re attempting to get at with your question concerning gyroscopes. The water surface holds a “horizontal plane” at all points on the earth’s surface. How does it do this if the earth is round? It can do this because its shape is controlled by gravity, which is oriented along radial lines that pass through the center of mass of the earth. These radial lines are perpendicular to Earth’s surface at all points on the earth, which is possible if…the earth is a sphere.
Someone else asked how the Sun and the Moon are the same size. I’m not sure they are exactly, but, just going with the idea, the obvious answer is that the Sun, although way bigger than the Moon, is much farther away.
Some here have asked why the CIA/MI5/Mossad/etc. would propagate flat-earth theory…well the answer is, as I stated before…to make people who question Illuminati narratives out to be fools on all points…including the ones they’re spot-on about, particularly the evil that the Illuminati and their ilk get up to in practically every sphere (no pun intended) of life nowadays.
My question is why would they want to fool us into believing the earth is round if isn’t? I can’t think of an answer to that, so I’d like to hear from you all regarding why you think they’d want to do that…I just don’t see the incentive.
daniel tokely
on February 5, 2022 at 6:51 am
Once Germany had got rid of the jews they went from a broken bankrupt nation to the best and foremost in the world
the latest US stealth technology is based on what the Germans had
and why did not neville Chamberlian accept hitlers offer to remove the jews from the Uk ?
many old serviceman regtretted what they did
van
on February 5, 2022 at 8:59 am
@ Truthy1 on February 4, 2022 at 10:01 pm
Albert Einstein once said, “Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.”. Yet, we see this being the default response by so many people to so many things. Rejecting something we know nothing about is staying ignorant,
No one you reference is rejecting the fakeness of the ‘moon landings’ – they’re saying the book seller that this article is about is a fake who’s lying about a ‘dead witness’ to sell yet another book filled with what everyone already knows + his extra made up stuff.
> which means stagnancy in our evolution.
I don’t see any evolution going on – only further descent into depravity, destruction and madness.
eddieb
on February 5, 2022 at 9:39 am
daniel tokely, Hitler wanted a Bolshevik free Germany not a jew free Germany! At the end of the war there were thousands of jews living in Germany. Many of Hitlers army officers etc were jews.
ChasMick
on February 5, 2022 at 9:47 am
@Archibald: When I used to eat tripe, I used to take it with a pinch of salt and some vinegar-;)
Goy Buoy
on February 5, 2022 at 11:36 am
With the earth revolving once in 24 hours and moving around the sun once a year and revolving 365 times.
Miles covered, that would be 584 million miles.
Plus 40,000 KM being one earth revolution+365 =14,600,000 in one year
“about 584 million miles
The distance from Earth to the sun — called an astronomical unit— is 92,955,807 miles (149,597,870 kilometers), according to the International Astronomers Union. That is the radius (r). The circumference of a circle is equal to 2 x π x r. So in one year, Earth travels about 584 million miles (940 million km)”
Earth/Circumference
40,075 km
It manages to do all that to within a second every year.
I’m sure God has come up with something a little more simple and far less complicated than that?
And we can measure it because we have the clocks to measure it!
954 million kilometers in total traveled. What could possibly go wrong?
Lots and lots and lots.
Facts exposing the Apollo moon landing hoax have been widely known for ages. This is less well-known: Objective evidence shows that highly advanced ETs are living on Mars now. https://evolutionofconsciousness.health.blog/
lewis jones
on February 5, 2022 at 1:56 pm
Too much to respond to, but I recommend Fight the Flat Earth for defeating them, although he has no Conspiracy knowledge (opposite of White elephant), and I agree with andyay in that Einstein is useless, but I would add that Leibniz is better than Newton. We should go back to him and start again.
Yukon Jack
on February 5, 2022 at 3:52 pm
What does the earth look like from the moon’s surface? HUGE. If you are standing on the moon and you look around it is desolate hell and a black sky (supposedly), and the earth would stand out like a gem, bright blue with life – compared to the moon grey and dead.
So next time you look at the moon, imagine 4 moons across – and that would be the diameter of earth (as seen from the moon). 17 moons clustered together is the size of earth seen from the moon. That is huge. And our gay astroNOTS prancing around the moon in their moon costumes never photographed it.
The point I am making is that on the moon the earth is the most prominent feature and would have taken up a huge volume of astronuts attention. THE EARTH WOULD APPEAR HUGE.
That was because they were on a movie set and overhead are the roof trusses, that have them dangling from wires. In fact one of the moon movies you can see the truss and stage props. In other moon movies you can see the wire and the flash of light ping.
Yukon Jack
on February 5, 2022 at 4:15 pm
WHY DO FLAT EARTHERS SWARM AROUND THE FAKE MOON LANDING?
(Imagine a stinky pile of fresh dog shit and a bunch of flies going crazy with ecstasy at an easy meal.)
Moon fakery brings out the flat earth crazies everytime. From the CIA comes flat earth psyop, and to discredit the truthsayers the flat earth is attached to every conspiracy theory. Flat earth is obviously false to a rational mind, so if the CIA attaches flat earth theories to the the faked moon landing they can discredit real research exposing the lies.
Flat earth is the Jew Cass Sunstein special. Flat earth is a real conspiracy by the powers that be to cover up their lies. Anyone promoting flat earth is either incredibly stupid or a paid disinformationist. Eric Dubay is the later, he takes other people’s Lunar Lander LEM analysis and repeats it exactly in his own production – then he puts the moon hoax in terms of a globe earth conspiracy (no such thing a space, earth is flat, etc.)
Then we have the gullible Bible dupes who actually think the caveman Jew Bible is the world of god. They can not fathom that they’ve been lied to their whole life about the Holy Bible. The Bible says earth is flat, but it is not flat, and above the stars is not water, the stars are very far away in space. The earth is also not the center of the universe, and god doesn’t love us or give a shit what we do.
The Bible cosmological construct of the universe if flat out wrong. The Bible can not be taken literally true, and if you do so you are committing intellectual suicide. So if the Bible is wrong about the heavens, maybe it is also wrong about God. So you can see why Bible dupes are so adamant about discrediting the moon landing and asserting their primitive childlike mythology.
dwd
on February 5, 2022 at 4:50 pm
Goy Buoy, have you heard of centripetal acceleration? It’s what holds bodies in circular motion. You may think this is complicated, but, for God, this is simpler than 1, 2, 3 and A, B, C! He’s so, so intellectually superior to us! You may think of comparing a person’s mind to that of an insect as an appropriate analogy here, but even that would be unfair.
There are people who learn a few things (physicists, geneticists, etc., come to mind) about how things work (i.e., about God’s rules that govern the material plane)…and then they get the big head and start thinking there is no God. Many, like Bill Gates (not that he’s a real “scientist”), appoint THEMSELVES God (in his case, among other things, as evidenced by tampering with genes and thereby conspiring to kill millions of people (only God should decide when it’s time for a person to leave this life)). I believe nuclear science is another evil inspired by man’s arrogant quest to appoint himself God…for changing the atom is changing God’s creation…this is why it ends in disaster so often (nuclear accidents, wars, contamination, etc).
Physics is merely a set of rules that govern a portion of reality–the material plane. These are relatively simple rules that God made. The part that we’ve managed to understand (to a superficial degree only, I’m sure) is only the simple part…God must laugh at our arrogance! Nevertheless, the motion of the planets is governed by rules that God made, and a high school physics book will explain the details adequately to attain a working idea of this particular rule of the material plane. Perhaps you would have made a different set of rules…but be aware that your rules must be internally consistent…i.e., must not conflict with one another.
Understanding the simpler, most obvious aspects of the rules governing the material realm does not make humans gods. You may have a bit more understanding than the average person, but you have no idea of what holds the universe together, how it came to be, what contains it, or of a host of other aspects of things, and neither does anyone else. The more a person learns about all this, the humbler he or she should become, but, instead, many puff up with pride upon gaining a little knowledge.
God is smiling at this folly…one day each of us will meet him, and He will correct us on where we went wrong in our time here…not out of anger or vengeance I think…but out of love. Not even Bill Gates will be corrected out of anger or vengeance…but that doesn’t mean he should continue to participate in evil-doings without constraint…the pain of learning the right way will be great…and:
To whom much has been given shall much be required!
Black Pete
on February 5, 2022 at 4:53 pm
@lewis jones Do you think someone in the 1600s could come up with “every particle in the universe attracts every other particle with a force proportional to the mass of the particles, and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between the particles”? Also that someone could talk about a vacuum, when they did not know that air had weight or mass if you prefer.
TeeJay
on February 5, 2022 at 5:02 pm
I once had a back and forth on jewtube re the curvature of the earth, I pointed out that the Suez canal is over one hundred and thirty miles in length and without a single lock, I asked “where is the curve?” the one that should be there according to globeist geometry, informed that the builders had factored it in, I replied saying that in that case, a ship must enter at one end, make it’s way UP the canal until reaching the rise in the middle then slowly sail DOWN the other side! never heard back from him. as for dwd’s tired lazy falling off the edge , water, in order to remain in one place requires a container and invariably always has a perfectly flat level surface once contained, (please post no crap about round water droplets they are droplets not vast oceans!) water, in a lake, a glass, or a pisspot unless frozen into a shape always has a flat surface once contained. the container in the case of the earths oceans being simply frozen water as a circular wall surrounding the earth surface that we know about (there may be much more of “earth” than we know, hence the secrecy and psyop) lastly, (I’m sure you all realise I could go on and on and on) have a look at the Michelson Morley experiment proving that the earth is in fact motionless..
White Elephant
on February 5, 2022 at 6:22 pm
Some good replies on here about FE, but I’ve realised that it’s pretty pointless in going into long discussions about it, purely for the reason that those who do not believe in FE are no different to those who believe in the holocaust and the continuing persecution of jews.
It’s a waste of time quite frankly. You are treated exactly the same.
Really, the more you read into FE, no differently to the holocaust, the official heliocentric model just falls apart.
As I stated, I’m not getting into a discussion on this, because you cannot wake these people up. They have to wake up themselves. They have to snap out of the control mechanism that’s gripped them since they were young, however you can drop some pointers to guide them in the right direction.
All of space, everything has come completely from freemasons (jews) and promoted by the science fiction authors. Yes, you’re believing science fiction and it’s really hilarious that you are incapable of realising that your very belief, in space, started when you saw the globe earth at school, or in a book when you were young. Then the indoctrination just increased continually.
As Robert Purnell (who has written good replies on this on this forum) shows, there are five major organizations that use the FE model as their logo, why?
A good reply by andjay on how we have cast aspersions towards the men of wisdom of old and believe the words of jewish hacks like Einstein whom, I might add along with Marx and Freud, was put into place in order to promote jewish intellect, because of the then public distrust in jews. Those three were another carefully placed psy-op.
You are simply incapable of accepting that what is outside Earth is contrary to your brainwashing.
I’ve read so much about it. What made me realise the Earth is indeed not a globe was focal points and the horizon. What is the focal point? It is the point at which your vision concentrates upon. Take a sheet of paper and draw two lines; one from the top right to the bottom left, the other from the top left to the bottom right. The point at which the two lines intersect is your focal point and everything outside of that is your field of vision (left, right, up, down, diagonally and further forward).
The human eye can only see so far. When ships leave our focal point on the sea, we have happily accepted the lie that they disappear over the horizon. However, upon inspection of this you will see something very different. On a warm day, go to a large stretch of water (ocean/sea) and watch a ship disappear. Now look what happens as it disappears? Everything around will begin to blur. The hull of the boat will begin to disappear along with the top and the sides. You will make out what is within and that will eventually disappear. It is leaving your focal point and the blurring is your eye, unable to make out what is there. And to complete this illusion, bring out a telescope or a high powered camera and you will be able to bring the vessel completely back into sight. Also, look at the horizon, it will be well in front of the vessel, a good many miles in front.
This is all that’s happening. it’s leaving your focal point.
This is, by far, one of the realities that when you understand it, you see that the earth is, in fact, very, very long. How long? I don’t know, but it goes on beyond the ice wall (Antarctica). Yes, Antarctica is all around is. There is no South Pole, only the center of the earth, which is slap bang in the middle of the FE map. The Ice wall is no different to the bath walls in your home. It holds in the water. All you have to do is read about the Atlantic treaties. You are not allowed to go there, well only to the tourist parts. If you try to go anywhere else, you’ll be met by armed forces personnel. If you’re in a plane, you’ll be shot down. This is a simple fact. Antarctica is an ice wall, surrounding the earth and there are many continents beyond. But what? The way I see it, the ice wall is there for one of two reasons or both – to keep us from leaving earth (for our own protection) and to stop that, what is outside, from getting into earth.
Did any of you ever wonder why Tolkien called the land in his novels – Middle Earth?
Here’s some simple common sense (as I said, I’ll drop some things for you to think about). We are told that the earth spins at 1,000mph. If you do the maths you’ll find that boils down to around 430 meters every second, the earth moves, counter clockwise.
But you can’t feel this can you? You can’t feel the motion? Why? Because of the wonderful thing, never explained, called gravity. It’s laughable that people forego all common sense to believe in this magic that holds everything in. When I encroach on this, in conversation, should it ever occur (very rarely indeed), people say: “ah, yes, motion, but you see, if you were born in a car that was constantly moving forward, you wouldn’t feel the motion would you”? explaining the earth. However, I then say that’s possible, but the earth doesn’t just move forward (as we’re told spinning at millions of miles away from the big bag while circling the sun, itself traveling) it rotates. I ask them how they would fair, driving down the road at 100mph and doing a right or a left turn without any breaks? I then tell them, now imagine travelling forwards at 1,000mph and turning at the same speed?
You see, people are unable to see this simple reality. Everyone ALWAYS feel the slightest movement when they turn left or right in a vehicle. We happen to be rotating (turning) at 432m a second and we can all walk perfectly on this earth, not spill our coffee while walking down the street, in fact stay ON THIS EARTH!!! If we are spinning at 432m a second, it means that if we jumped up, the land below us would travel 432m away from us. It would mean that a jumbo jet, traveling from London to France, at 450mph, would never arrive, but in fact, be met by France coming up behind it. Have you thought just how impossible it would be for a plane to land at an airport moving at 432m per second?
Again, it’s all, just, simple common sense. There are thousands of videos that prove the earth is flat. There’s the Suez canal, the longest stretch of water on this earth and it’s completely flat – watch videos on YouTube of sped up traversing of it in vessels.
Finally, the CIA has nothing to do with FE. FE has been here for thousands of years. I will say that there is a lot of disinformation regarding FE and never trust the Flat Earth Society for they ARE a psy-op, created to destroy FE. If you seek knowledge look at the International Flat Earth Society and read the writings of Eric Dubay. He’s destroyed everyone in debate.
You will always continually be in a mental prison until you free your mind. Again, that which you know of heliocentrism, globe earth, planets (plane with a ‘t’ on the end LOL), galaxies, aliens, universes etc is all science fiction, promoted by TPTB who have purposefully restricted people from their culture and history, forbidding them the knowledge of their ancestors in order to control them.
Instead what they do is they promote the lie of a universe billions of light years in size to make you feel utterly and completely insignificant in the grand scheme of things. They want you to feel like a grain of sand, on a beach, itself a grain of sand on another beach, itself a grain of sand on another beach and so on. They want you to believe you came from monkeys and fish. They do not want you to realise that you are unique, you are very special indeed and a creation of God to be the very goodness that you know to be true from the day you were born, laughing and smiling as a child, who grows up in a world and becomes sad and unhappy.
You are being lied to.
You have always been lied to.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State.” (it’s a debated topic on who said this. Many believe Goebbels).
Remember that there is a commandment – “Thou shalt not bear false witness on thy neighbour” and many times Christ spoke out against deceit and deception. It ends friendships, rips apart families and destroys nations and civilizations. And it is for this very reason that lying is the main tool of the jew. And they’re winning because of it.
You all need to wake up. We are not spinning in a ball people.
qed
on February 5, 2022 at 7:03 pm
Flat earth stuff is just religious types trying to bring god into it + trolls yanking your chain. Neither are worth responding to.
The guy at the top of this page in the video is yet another boring person trying to make money from what everyone already knows. I listened to the video – nothing new there.
What would be far more interesting is if someone actually did that now non existant thing of actual investigative journalism, and tried to PROVE the current space stuff is fake. But that requires money and effort, whereas everyone wants to spout without expending either. If I had the money I’d pay someone to put a gps transmitter on one of the ‘astronauts’ to track their space ‘journey’, and also try to film one of the ‘space x’ ‘rockets’ landing (instead of showing them taking off in reverse). You could also pay someone to cozy up to one of these female ‘astronauts’ to get them to tell us why their hair is doing that thing in ‘space’. I would imagine that some of the current space con is real – but who knows? – but some of it is also obviously fake, just like the ‘good old days’. Anyone that works at nasa today is clearly suspect simply because they support the fake stuff from 69/70. Just as your entire ‘government’ is guilty for not speaking up about the deadly ‘vaccines’.
The only way a plane can fly parallel to the curved surface of ball earth is by pitching the nose of plane down to match the earth’s curvature.
A gyroscope is contained within the attitude indicator or artificial horizon instrument. The spinning gyroscope remains vertical but any change in the orientation of plane with ground and vertical gyroscope , whether pitch , roll .or yaw would be indicated on instrument . So if nose was pitched down to follow earth’s curvature , it would be seen on the the attitude indicator. Pilots don’t compensate for curvature. Here’s a quick 2 min explanation.
You’re comment about gravity controlling shape of earth and ocean is incoherent and gravity doesn’t exist . A phantom force created to hold a fictitious universe together.
Scroll up to my previous comment if you didn’t read it , regarding ball earth model defying natural properties of water.
The flat earth psyop is doing a lot of damage to genuine truth-seeking. Many folks “graduating” from the Daily Mail comments section and thirsty for knowledge after waking up from the current psyop, are likely to shake their heads in disbelief at those professing flat earth.
By attaching flat earth to anything, it discredits it.
flatish going on round
on February 5, 2022 at 10:17 pm
Ok:
1. I don’t believe the earth is flat – I believe it’s a globe (you know, squashed a bit, or whatever).
2. Why are there no PHOTOGRAPHS of the globe anywhere?
3. Why does this seem to prove the earth is flat?:
The crypto-Jew, LBJ and the monstrous Kissinger were behind all of the Kennedy assassinations, the enormous escalation of the Vietnam war, the USS Liberty atrocity and, despite the actual landings being after Johnson’s time, the moon hoax.
Flat Earth nonsense is an obvious con-job designed to entrap, discredit and subject to ridicule all those who don’t fully and unquestioningly buy into the government’s narrative on a range of issues, most specifically the Apollo psy-op.
Well I say, Guv-nah, nothing makes for a robust comment section like a little bit of lunacy! Remember that old Bugs Bunny cartoon? ‘The Earth!?? She’s a FLAT!! NO! She’s a ROUND!!’
In my thirteenth year I acquired a 3 inch reflecting telescope as a Christmas gift. Coupled with star maps from the Royal Astronomical Society I was able to successfully locate and view Jupiter, ‘he’s a round!’
Along with Saturn and Mars, both of which are indeed round. Does that meager pinch of juvenile research prove that the Earth is as well? No. Did I merely see what I wanted and expected to see? No. I would have loved nothing more than the fame and ego trip that would have accompanied my discovery that Jupiter is just a big flat island in space.
Sunrise and sunset is a major problem for the flat Earth society, in my humble opinion. And I’m sure that Eric Dubay, amongst others, could not illuminate the issue for me. Admittedly, astrophysics and mathematics are certainly no specialty of mine.
Mike D
on February 6, 2022 at 12:23 am
Nothing is more amusing than seeing the results of our dumbed down societies or Western Civilization than seeing imbeciles and morons vying with one another over “flat earth”.
One word for all the high school dropouts pushing the childish flat earth delusion: Eratosthenes.
Google it. That’s all the proof you need. “buh, buh, I never heard of him” Exactly. That’s why ya shoulda stayed in school, kiddo. Also, everyone should read Charlotte Iserbyt’s “The Dumbing Down of America” … it’s relevant to this discussion.
“2. Why are there no PHOTOGRAPHS of the globe anywhere?”
Because nothing has been above earth’s orbit in order to send pictures, or because of radiation etc., able to send pictures. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. See Bob Smith’s and my estimation of Voyager etc
(I may also chip in that while I believe anti-gravity craft exist, I believe they are unable to leave [low]orbit.)
And this is the thing, the CIA or whoever, have been able to collect all the evidence of fake moon-landings, deep sea divers seen in ISIS footage, antarctic lemmings seen on Mars, and absence of genuine pictures of earth, and lump it all in with all half baked flat earth crap.
The mechanism of discrediting by association has been seen very recently used when agent provocateurs dressed up in Hollywood style stereotype “right wing” regalia are used to discredit ordinary men, women, grannies, and children on anti lock-down demos.
O
on February 6, 2022 at 3:07 am
Study away the dogmas that make up a loud fray
Consider and shake the dogmas in a thoughtful way-ee-ay
Sticking around on a planet that’s round is my home ground
Waiting for something to show me how I’m being play-ee-ayed
Tired of lies about the sunlight
Staying home to watch the ‘plane’ Planks are square but spheres are round
And you’ve got time to shave today
And then one day you find nine spheres have gone behind you
No one told you, listen hon’
This is the Armageddonnnnnn….
Sheesh! As always, forgive me for that.
Kidkip
on February 6, 2022 at 6:08 am
@ dwd – ya know there are morons out there who believe the same shit you do – and they get very ‘triggered’ by ANY mention of FE because it threatens everything they believe and have built lives around – you and your ilk have swallowed every lie they presented you with. You see dwd – we didn’t just wake one day and decide to change our minds about the shape of the earth – we got to this point thru looking at the myriad inconsistencies in the ‘accepted’ fairy tale – we did our own research and put certain conclusions to practical tests. I have put questions to retired international airline pilots during our golf days – like how do you land a jumbo on a north-south runway somewhere near the equator where earth is supposedly spinning west to east at 1600+ KPH ? Answer after long difficult pause ‘ Gee I haven’t really thought about it’ – this from an ex captain with thousands of hours flying. And please don’t try n tell me the atmosphere is travelling at the same speed – think about the implications of THAT….FFS. See dwd morons of your ilk don’t go there but you only have to find something that doesn’t ‘fit’ the fairy tale and the whole thing comes undone – and I have hundreds – here’s one – I can stand on the sand locally and look across the water to an offshore island with binoculars- the shore is clearly visible- BUT going on ‘their’ Luciferian calculations for ‘curvature’ there should be 80 feet of it over the observed distance – yet it isn’t there – there is ZERO curvature ….I have lots more but you won’t want to go there – it’s more comfort to your like to retain belief in Santa (aka Satan) – take another blue pill n be happy in the matrix of lies.
Kidkip
on February 6, 2022 at 6:21 am
For DWD
Maybe you want to read about a ‘flat non rotating earth’ direct from the snake’s mouth ….
Like I said but somehow my commentary wasn’t allowed on this …. I’ll try again n see if the same thing happens – here it is from the mouth of the snake …..
Nor is it evidence of existence. Are we really expected to believe that a species that is so very very clever cannot take a photograph of a planet?
sam
on February 6, 2022 at 11:37 am
The jews can fake every single thing that you’re given by them and theirs: anything on tv, anything in a book, anything in ‘papers’, anything on the internet, anything taught by a ‘teacher’ (who’s just spouting at you what was originally spouted at them). Even if you get on a plane and ‘fly around the world’, how do you KNOW you flew around the world? Even if you consulted a gps, both the gps in your hand and the machine sending signals to the gps are owned and controlled by jews. What they CANNOT change however is your own observation. I looked at the links provided by “flatish going on round” and I can’t make what is written there tally with a round earth. Can you? Or are we just going to conveniently ignore what doesn’t fit our ideas, like good little nasa’ites? The links:
Nor is it evidence of existence. Are we really expected to believe that a species that is so very very clever cannot take a photograph of a planet?
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Yes, that is what I’m saying. But obviously “clever” enough to fake photographs as well as sending out their bots to forum comments sections etc to “stir the pot”.
Mankind’s cleverness to deceive has not been matched by his ability to achieve. (I think I’ll copyright that…)
Goy Buoy
on February 6, 2022 at 2:10 pm
@dwd
Earth is very special, you know.
So special, it’s the only place where life exists.
God created earth and God created life.
It’s possible you know, that earth could be one very special place.
Typical illogical responses from globe earth apologists. Emotionalism and denial vs. scientific method.. Very little substance to any of your comments Never addressing any of the countless irrefutable proofs of flat earth. Just slinging insults and diverting away from intelligent discourse. Lawyers are taught when in court — if you have the facts , pound the facts – if you have the law , pound the law – if you have neither the facts nor the law , POUND THE TABLE .
What don’t you guys understand about the concept of empirical evidence ?
The ball earth model can be disproved Q.E.D.– Simple observations and simple calculations are all that’s necessary No need for college professors and blackboards full of equations or need to consume more NASA hoax factory magic. Just use your own eyes , what better proof than that ? You can see vastly greater distances than should be possible according to dimensions of the model presented to us. We don’t live on a ball 8000 miles / 13000 km in diameter. That can be verified with a pair of binoculars and 5th grade math.
White Elephant
on February 6, 2022 at 8:53 pm
Two things need to be stated…
1. I’m incredibly disappointed that people are unable to debate on here without it turning into slagging match. And both parties are guilty. The vitriolic abuse from some people to others is incredibly sad to see.
Yukon Jack is someone I respect for his many words of wisdom and didn’t expect him to lower himself in his opposition to FE.
This is why the Jew is winning. They’re united. This comment section proves just how fractured we are.
And again, just how can research into FE damage truth seeking? If you can’t even accept the greatest lie of all, your own habitat’s shape/size, how can you see all the many others?
Why would the CIA, one of the many institutions of TPTB used to control and manipulate society, promote FE, when heliocentrism comes from freemasonry?
2. You’re still not getting it. EVERYTHING YOU KNOW ABOUT SPACE, PLANETS, ALIENS etc all comes from TPTB (Freemasonry who are the puppets of Jews, ‘talmudism for the goyim as it’s known). All was created by science fiction writers. And you keep up this nonsense.
All you so called free thinkers, who are through the BS of today, the Holocaust, WW2, WW1, germ theory, the great plague, the great fire, the English revolution and so on instantly act like their opposition when FE is mentioned.
I don’t take a stance on something unless I know it’s true. I guarantee, that all of you, one day, will come to the conclusion we don’t live in a globe. You will because you’re inquisitive and it will just got you one day, when you manage to release yourself from the control you’re still under by TPTB. Yes Yukon Jack, if you are the free thinker that you are, you’ll question it until you see that the earth is flat.
I do hope you see sense people, all those who oppose FE. As I stated in my above reply, watch a ship disappear over the horizon then bring it back into view with a camera/telescope. Look at the Suez canal. There’s no curve. All completely flat. And there are loads of videos of people going to areas of large water masses and using laser scoping to show the earth is flat by connecting to people in their other side of the water masses.
The earth is flat.
It always has been.
You’re all being lied to and worse accepting it.
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on February 6, 2022 at 8:57 pm
Well, Markie, I pounded no law, facts, or tables. There’s ample puffery in your post but no pudding. And as they say, ‘the proof is in the pudding!’.
whistleblowers have told us of small boys smuggled into the white house for obama and michael to
” play with ”
the covid scam
the holocaust all found to be bullshit
and now the moon landings
what did they not lie about
the number one reason this comes across as a fraud is that he’s putting it on ‘social’ media. if he had anything at all beyond what is already known he’d sell it to the highest bidder for millions. instead, he shoves his ‘book’ in your face continuously, makes out he’s a ‘feature film maker’, and never provides a single bit of proof. he’s pathetically trying to force his way into podcasts. podcasts ffs! if those people won’t touch him, what does that tell you? all he has is an ‘eye witness’ to the recordings, who he won’t say anything about, who is dead, and who’s ‘relatives are in danger’ if he tells you anything about them. these ‘relatives’ want the world to know, but they don’t want anyone to know who they are! (ie. they don’t exist.) it goes without saying that he claims to be a ‘journalist’ (when he’s not a ‘feature film maker’), and that everyone is stomping on the ‘freedom of the press’. most absurdly, he claims that if ‘this comes out’ the entire world will change. “can you tell us what the cia code name for the operation was?” “you know, you’ll have to read the book to find that out”………..
Of course they faked it. No one has ever left the earth. What’s outside the earth is liquid. Just look at the stars through camera/telescope. They are exactly the same as putting a cup of water onto a speaker. They vibrate, osscilate at certain frequencies.
As the Bible says God separated the waters.
But onto the moon landing, even Neil Armstrong, on a late night chat show, said we didn’t see them on the moon. It was acting, all of it, filmed by Jew Kubrick.
At some point he says he phoned someone up on a top secret “scrambled phone line” and that person said “is this about the video conference with so and so”, where so and so died two years earlier. If the phone line was “scrambled” how did he manage to phone it from his end? And what he says the super important military person said is like those old movies where a dog runs up to a person and the person says “what! jack is trapped down the mine and the roof will collapse in 39 minutes!!”. Why would the super important military person spout out a secret on a “scrambled” phone line without even asking who he was speaking to? This guy has just taken all the existing stuff, made up some conveniently dead eyewitness, and is trying to sell it to the highest bidder. Oh, and don’t forget the book.
They most likely faked Apollo 11, later missions were probably real. They have a black space program which uses anti-gravity tech. This is why a very high proportion of UFO sittings are terrestrial.
Are they all US, or are there other nations flying these craft? The UK is definitely involved, but are they just your usual US franchise?
@peter jenkins: They lied about not lying!?
We live in a “Closed system” we can NOT leave this Earth as the dome shaped firmament above us is “Rock hard.”
In 1962 the devil`s lying children (let`s call them what they are) sent rockets up to the top of the dome and exploded atomic bombs trying to break the firmament, which they could not do.
The Word of God declares that we live on a FLAT EARTH.
We do NOT live on a Globe which is spinning at 1,000 mph.
We do NOT live on a Globe which is hurtling through space at 67,000 mph.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/cAEOM41wkSwu/
The Word of God states that we are living on a FLAT AND STATIONARY PLANET.
We live under a dome shaped “FIRMAMENT”……….
Genesis 1:6 – 8.
6. And God said, Let there be a FIRMAMENT in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7. And God made the FIRMAMENT, and divided the waters which were under the FIRMAMENT from the waters which were above the FIRMAMENT: and it was so.
8. And God called the FIRMAMENT Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/wewdoUN1zkQy/
@White Elephant
> What’s outside the earth is liquid.
> As the Bible says God separated the waters.
Eh? I see you’re one of those religious people who thinks god created everything and that the centre of all creation is man (and that all other life is there for man to “use”). But liquid? Why on earth do you think that?
The Jew does not want to acknowledge a Nazi achievement, or an American one. At the time they (the Jews) supported the USSR.
This guy is annoying. He’s constantly fake laughing, like whatever he’s saying is the funniest thing he’s ever heard, despite the fact that it isn’t, and that he must have said it hundreds of times while trying to sell his book.
Just another bookseller. Nothing he says is new.
The following offical International organisations have one thing in common:
1: United Nations.
2: World Health Organisation.
3: International Maritime Organisation.
4: World Meteorological Organisation.
5: International Civil Aviation Organisation.
They use the “Flat earth map” as their Logo.
Are they “Stupid” or are they telling us something ???
Alfred Hitchcock filmed the scenes for the jewish bolocaust
and the jew kubrick filmed the fake here too
its all smoke and mirrors
jews have a saying ” dont look here look there ”
mon landings ? as fake as the bollocaust
back racist jewess whoopi goldberg shits on the holocaust story
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10461435/Whoopi-Goldberg-makes-shocking-claim-Holocaust-not-race-heated-discussion-ABC.html
I have a friend who believes in “Flat Earth”; like White Elephant his political intuitions are more acute than 99 % of the people. So I know there are people who genuinely believe it. My take is that “Flat Earth” was taken from the middle ages and refashioned as a psyop to discredit irrefutable proof of the hoaxed landings.
By conflating “Flat Earth” with the Apollo Hoax, TPTB hope to discredit those that hold to the latter. I did observe for a certain period that most Apollo Hoax videos on YouTube with a high searchability always tended to have flat earth “theory” attached to it.
“A man persuaded against his will is of the same opinion still.” Nevertheless, the most straightforward demonstration of the error of flat earth for me is one based on trigonometry involving the altitude of the sun at various latitudes AT THE SAME TIME. I am aware that “latitude” for flat earthers corresponds to distance from a the central point or periphery of Antarctica – but “latitude” is something that can be agreed for the purposes of measurement.
I posted my article – based on a more intricate one – on a chess off topic forum a few years ago:
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/proof-that-the-flat-earth-is-incorrect
Dont encourage these flat earthers theyll only clog up the comment section.
For example the nutter who quotes the bible a book written a few thousand years ago with a lot of its content stolen from the Babylonians and Ancient Egyptians.
A load of TRIPE in other words
@White Elephant
Stop making yourself the laughing stock of these posts by persistently pushing the flat earth mockery or delusion. We may or may not have been to the moon, but we certainly have been to outer space since Gagarin, and thousands of missions have been flown since then. I don’t know why I even have to state this, but when discussing such matters with astoundingly ignorant folk, one has to start at the basics.
I am puzzled as to why anyone enjoys playing the village buffoon or idiot making childish claims about flat earth, space being filled with water, etc etc. When it comes to these silly claims, some of us have to grow up … regressive infantilism is a terrible psychological ailment.
Robert Purnell do you have a lightning bolt protruding out from each side of your neck? The flat earth theory is a con job put out by the CIA; just one more rabbit hole to fall into; more endless BS. All those facts you provide are right out of NASA playbook. Who got conned here?
Researcher David McGown wrote a paper about the moon landing hoax titled Wagging the Moon Doggie.
It’s amazing that people are still so hopped up on this. Those who think that NASA went to the moon back in the day of the pocket calculator will never be discouraged from their idiotic, but relatively harmless (to them) belief. Everyone else already knows better.
“B…buu….BUT, why would they lie to us?”
Why does anybody lie?
Especially to sheeple?
Especially with billions of dollars just asking to be shunted into off-budget black operations?
Especially when the instant lie supports other lies.
All you need to know is that official stories may always be assumed to be lies.
It matters less HOW they did it than WHY it was done and what it accomplished.
What is more important might be asking why they are so against lead and tobacco (and maybe reefer), while pushing mRNA vaxxed, water fluoridation, television, etc.
https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/moondoggie-1/
2009 Van Allen probes documented an acceleration event in the electron belt (s.) Intensity of radiation increased by a factor of 1,000 in 12 hours. Look it up, then realize NASA had no way of knowing the radiation levels on launch, or return, days. You have to be in the plane of orbit of the Earth-Moon system, to reach the Moon. You have to fly through the radiation belts. Also note the 2013 LRO measurement of radiation from the Moon is “30 to 40 percent higher” than what we were told for decades. From atoms split on the surface by cosmic rays. Look it up.
There’s so many red flags on the “moon landings” – I have zero respect for anyone that believes them at this point – it simply means you have a lazy mind and care nothing about the truth. Or maybe you’re just fat dumb and lazy.
It only takes one fact or observation to destroy a hypothesis, it’s how science works.
Here’s 4
1. Van Allen Belts
2. Photo of “earth from moon surface” showing it the same size as the moon would appear from earth, with no fish-eyeing of the lens therefore it was not a wide angle shot. Look up the difference in diameters of the 2 bodies.
3. Nasa said they had no fuel on re-entry – ever seen a meteor? these are hard space rocks.
4. All original footage gone – nas-holes said they taped over it or Lost it. Hmm, seems like a vaguely important event.
As a microbiologist who worked on the thing, I have zero respect for anyone that thinks corona had a more virulent variant – doctor evil lab theory impossible… autoimmunity from anti-vaccine – very likely in fact it’s a given.
> The flat earth theory is a con job put out by the CIA
And why pray tell? I don’t dispute the fakery, but why the cia?
Sextant is the proof. Flat horizon and 90 degree angle to use a sextant not an arc. It is Flat and No moon landing
Mystic and Yogi
And if the Nazis won the war, you would now be traveling to colonies on the Moon & Mars…but since the regressive moronic Christian-Communist Allies won, we are still stuck on the planet of the Apes..
David Weiss (Sun,moon and zodiac clock app) offers 3 Bit coin for just one scientific proof of the globe earth. He is good for it.
Why doesn’t Mike D,Lerch,et al take him up on it? Easy money! Take the sucker. I dare you. The only requirement is intellectual honesty.
I bet you lose!
Please don’t cop out by saying you wouldn’t waste your time etc.
Sigh. LRO in 2013 and radiation from atoms split by cosmic rays on the surface. 2009 Van Allen probes, the 12 hour acceleration event in the electron belt. Look it up.
Maat or “space” as the Egyptians conceived of it, was primal water. This was the preferred philosophic understanding of “space,” throughout the entirety of the history of human thought, until very recently.
When Einstein claimed that space was curved in proportion to the physical mass occupying it, he reinvented the time-honoured analogy, to fashion “space” as an empty interval, or a distance the measurement of which is calibrated upon a putative maximal velocity for light, (to measure the nothingingness, between the physically manifest stars or planets,) it was then that the wisdom of the ages was surrendered to the post-war jewish zeitgeist, a dastardly masquerade, which has, ever since, limited the scope of physical sciences enquiry.
The ancients didn’t believe that the properties of space were the same as the properties of water, just that water provided the best analogy or similitude for understanding the substance housing the planet Earth.
In a disputation between modern, semitic modelling (as typified by Einstein) and the tradition of scientific understanding, passed down ancestrally, from greatest antiquity, with epochal endurance, I think, frankly, that you have to be a bloody fool to opt for the plagiarizing patents clerk, Einstein over all the wisdom of the ancients. Modern science should learn some humility.
Mike D at 1:48 pm-
My understanding of space is that the earth is a sphere, Flat Earth is a CIA psyop to get people arguing among themselves instead of looking behind the scenes and discovering that almost everyone is Jewish or a Freemason and most became very rich. The ‘Apollo Astronauts’ were just gentile windowdressing to fool the gullible masses. That All American Neil Armstrong was the mask of a Satanic hoax. It goes on with the fake international space station, take a good look at the fake ISS, would anyone have all those wires and electronic devices hanging about or allow women with long permed into a cartoonish mountain or why do they keep doing the same routines.
Bart Sibrel, like Bill Kaysing and Ralph René gets almost everything right when talking about the moon landings. Unlike Kaysing and René, Sibrel is a weirdo dining out on the hoax for decades. If you thin he is wrong about something, like the notorious stencil of the earth in a round window, then give us an actual example of where he is wrong. Yuri Gagarin never went to space, no one has been to space and nothing has been to space: astronauts, space probes, Mars landers, Voyager and the biggest laugh of all is that Russia sent landers to Venus. The Hubble Space Telescope is actually the Sophia telescope at the back of a NASA 747.
If you think anyone went to space or there are satellites in space, or NASA sent probes to the planets then kindly present even one actual photograph of the earth from space, or a fly-by of Venus, Saturn, Jupiter or the moon. Every single one is either a painting or CGI. There are no exceptions. Show us an image of a satellite in space that isn’t fake, a CGI hoax and tell us what or who took the picture.
If anyone or anything went to space, why not take a picture of the earth? Why has there never been a non-stop video of more than a few minutes of a rocket ‘going into space’ or why has there never been a ‘space walk’ that wasn’t a ridiculous hoax in a studio or a swimming pool?
This is for the Globe Earthers; explain this: every 24 hours is 360 degrees of rotation, causing day and night., constant, no change. Every 365.25 days, the earth revolves around the sun. Why don’t we experience flipping of day and night every 6 months when the globe earth is supposed to be at opposite ends of the revolution cycle?
Robert Purnell:
If you take time to look at the moon through an inexpensive backyard telescope, you can clearly perceive that it is a globe and that its surface is pocked with craters. You can also see Jupiter and Saturn well enough to perceive that they are globes as well. Or are telescopes just rigged up this way to fool us?
Also, I suppose you don’t fly for fear of flying off the edge of the disk. Please keep in mind that the pilots that fly the planes are navigating on the basis of a globe-shaped earth, or are they fooling us too?. I wouldn’t fly if I were you.
I wouldn’t sail farther out than the sight of land either…I’m a sailor, and I’ve studied celestial navigation some (certainly no expert), but I will say that celestial navigation is based on the concept of a spinning, globe-shaped Earth.
Finally, I’m curious as to how this works in practice…why for instance aren’t people dropping off the edge everyday…and, when they do, to where do they drop?
What holds up the disk? And what’s on the underside of it?
Just because the media constantly lies and deceives those who follow it doesn’t mean that everything we were taught in school was a lie. Have you considered that this promotion of “flat-earth theory” is promoted by the Illuminati (which includes the CIA and MI5 and other “intelligence agencies” to make those of us out to be rubes and and total fools and thus completely destroy any credibility of our critiques in the minds of the sheeple?
We’re in a life-and-death struggle here, man…pull yourself together!!!!
@ Nico X
> And if the Nazis won the war, you would now be traveling to colonies on the Moon & Mars
The only reason to go to mars is to get away from the humans. If they were there then it would be pointless.
Interesting post Bob.
I agree with most of what you say, but I believe many of the so called Voyager pictures may have been taken by telescopes from earth. In addition to your scepticism about probes, I might add that credible pictures taken “from probes” with planets backlit by the sun are not forthcoming; why ?
I’m also 50/50 on whether the photos of the “dark side of the moon” are genuine too.
@Espico
If I understand you correctly, this arises because a sidereal day and solar day are of different lengths.
The earth rotates on it’s axis after 24 hours, but because of its revolving around the sun, the position of the earth to the background stars is not exactly the same as was 24 hours previously. It takes 23 hours 56 minutes because of movement around the sun for an observer to see the same stellar background as they did the “previous day”. So a sidereal day is shorter than a solar day.
https://astronomy.swin.edu.au/cosmos/S/Sidereal+Day
@Liquid https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uKBEPf_DcWM
@Mike D give us some proof? You say a lot of nothing.
Stanley Kubricks films – The Shining and Room 237 both reference the Apollo missions (Statue of Liberty – Sun God – washington DC, The City, London and the Vatican all have egyptian obelisks in front of domes – it is pagan male/female sun worship). Every truther has heard of eyes wide shut. Fake moon is just a short hop from 911 – was for me anyway. 2001 space odyssey with arthur c clarke was the warm up. https://archive.factordaily.com/behind-the-scenes-of-space-odyssey/
Course Dave McGowan is a great read – “Wagging the moon doggie” is hilarious
https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/ and “Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops, and the Dark Heart of the Hippie” is a classic rabbit hole. Agree with the comments about this guy in the vid though. Totally agree with white elephant and robert above – the bible is explicit in defining the earth as immovable – it can not be moved ! Heliocentrism is a jesuit invention. Truth is flat earth is a bridge too far for most people. Some of the best entertainment ive had is watching the ubergeeks ripping the iss fiasco apart. never a straight answer. freemason astronots.What did the clever nazi Werner Von Braun have on his tombstone ?
Psalm 19
1 To him that excelleth. A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God,
and the firmament sheweth ye work of his hands.
it.https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/wernher-von-braun/DwGntv4iztce4A
Here’s a nice map for you to ponder along with the trips to antarctica of Klaus the evil santa and his freak show goons like the EU commissioner, and dreggs like skull and bones kerry – a lot going on at that frozen little island ? https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:7h149v85z
Didn’t the nazis find neue schwabenland ! The worlds biggest bifocal is named Lucifer and is owned by you know who. Don’t forget that Galileo and Copernicus were canons.
For me, it’s the sheer joy and exuberance that the triumphant trio radiate during their first press conference after the alleged lunar landings that casts doubt upon the whole enterprise.
ps – the world is ruled by symbols. have a look at the nasa logo and tell me if you can see the forked tongue – the T in NASA.
@dwd – the moon is the same size as the sun in the sky – another coinkidincky ? Sunlight dries and moonlight rots. It’s driven many a sailor made. How does the moon only show us one face – always the rabbit – no matter where you are on the earth? – another coinckidincky ? And why does she rotate slowly like a watchface ? what for that matter is the lunar wave ? and how on earth(pun) do you get every meteorite to hit its “globe” surface at a perfect right angle ? so many questions for the globeheads – ha ha ha
@ Lerch —
Dave died before he could work it up in book format. The whole of it is as long as most books anyway.
Start at his first paper, there’s a link at the bottom of the page for each new chapter. It is a long, but very interesting read:
https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/moondoggie-1/
Moon landing is fake . The whole space program is fake. Go to bitchute , type in ISS hoax , grab some popcorn and watch the comedy show that is the Intl. Space Station. There is no outer space as portrayed by NASA [National Academy of Space Actors ]
” Space may be the final frontier but it’s made in a Hollywood basement”
— Red Hot Chili Peppers song lyrics – Californication
They love to taunt us through entertainment industry — music , movies. They mock the public while fulfilling their Satanic obligation to announce their deceptions.
@ white elephant and robert purnell
Correct , we’re living in a closed system . Stars and planets are luminaries and very close – within the firmament. Watch video taken with zoom camera . Do these dancing lights look like distant suns and planets ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FI7gvdkkQ0
Go to 7:08 mark of this video–. rocket hits firmament. There have been other reports of similar incidents. This is being done intentionally . They want us to know.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/c6eEyx1B1DZ8/
No proof we live on spinning ball . NASA ball earth photos are fake . They’re poor quality artwork with intentional anomalies to f **k with us , e.g. N. America is drastically different sizes in different photos.
The natural properties of water alone disproves the ball earth model. The surface of any body of water is level. That’s why the ocean is used as a reference for altitude because of constant height .- A mountain is X feet above Sea Level. The term sea level has no meaning on a ball. There is no level on a ball.
If the magical force of gravity is holding the oceans tight to a spinning ball , then the oceans should be locked in place. How do we explain all of the independent movement of water in any direction with the tiniest amount of force. Why doesn’t gravity prevent a minnow from swimming freely if it can control the massive tonnage of water . If the ocean water is free to move independent of gravity then it should be free to fall off the ball.
How do rivers work on a ball ? If you go between any two points on a ball, point A to point B in any direction, you have a central hump. That means a river of any length would have to flow uphill to central point and then downhill the second half of distance.
Flat earth is not a psyop , globe earth and the entire Star Trek – science fiction extravaganza of black holes , dark matter ,trillions of galaxies , etc. is the psyop. All designed to take us away from a Creator. We live in an intelligently designed system. The sky is a clock. Daily sun cycle. monthly moon cycle , yearly star – constellation cycle.
BTW, evolution, starting with nonsensical Big Bang is also a scientifically bankrupt concept. No transitional fossil evidence. Abiogenesis never proven to be possible. Mathematical probability of DNA and amino acid chain codes writing themselves through random process is nil. It’s like saying the Taj Mahal was created by chance through wind and erosion.
I enjoy reading comments at this site. Sometimes I don’t even read article , just skip to comments. Most commenting here are Red Pilled on so many other issues , they should be receptive to going down additional rabbit holes.
Cognitive dissonance shouldn’t be a problem with this crowd , so no ad hominem attacks without doing the research. We’ve been deceived about everything , why isn’t it possible that we’ve been deceived about the nature of our existence on earth , the most important issue of all.
Carl Jones says, “They most likely faked Apollo 11, later missions were probably real.”
If they could foresee that they could actually go there at that time, they would not have taken the chance of faking the first mission. Also, because the first alleged landing was fake then most likely they simply got more sophisticated very quickly in their fakery with the subsequent alleged missions. They made so much propaganda millage with the success of their first fake landing, getting credulous sheeple everywhere in the world to believe it was true, that they were not going to give up exploiting that tremendous boon to them both in the US and on the world stage.
Understandingly, Americans like others loyal to their nations tend to want to believe anything good their nation allegedly does and also deny anything bad. However, by the fact that they are the most powerful and richest nation in history, their responsibility ought to be greatly magnified. One would think that their duty to curb their abuses should be proportionately much greater to those of us in lesser nations essentially under their thumbs and with no real comparative powers. This is especially the case when considering all of the colossal, heinous crimes over the past 60 years the power brokers in the US have inflicted on their own people and on others with the abuses of that wealth and power.
So, in this SGT Report we finally see some small minority alt-media recognition suggesting that perhaps there is some kind of proportionality between responsibility and the amount of wealth & power the nation exercises, and especially when reviewing the quagmire of filth and corruption which has caused it to fall so low, including:
– the moon-landing hoax;
– 9/11 and the war on terror with the creation of surveillance state in all of our nations;
-WMD’s and the devastation of Iraq for oil and Israel;
– US sponsored Soros destabilizations;
– IMF & World Bank debt-rigging and takeovers of numerous foreign nations through US bankster hit men and US agency jackals, all backed up by the US military;
– continued false-flag terrorist operations;
– the recruiting, training, arming, deployment and funding of ISIS insurgents in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Philippians;
– the entire fake CO2 global warming peril;
– the US Fed and Wall Street based, rigged pump-and-dump and insider trading economy;
– the principle backers of the eugenic and the radical population reduction movement;
– the principal authors and promoters of UN Agendas 21 and 2030;
– the creators and principal disseminators of the Covid-19 bioweapon virus and
the actual authors of the script for entire plandemic, restrictions and mandates.
– the planned genocide of the weak and the unwanted through bioweapon vaccines.
Etc., etc. It will go on and on and on, long into the future likely with only very minor or controlled opposition generated in that divided nation, unless the people wake up and rise to and take back control of all of their systems.
The technological controls, brainwashing, and of all of the lies, fakery and various methods of oppression just keep becoming more and more sophisticated and pervasive, as is presently being witnessed with al of the Covid crimes against humanity. Sure, the governments of our other Western nations are participating, but the source of all of this shit is from the USA, where most of their people and just about all of their military think that anything they do is justified “to make the world a better plaice”, or to “save American lives”. This is a nation whose power structure has clearly run amok and now is making war on even its own people.
Whether it is for a New World Order with a central government located at the UN in NYC or to Make America Great Again (the latest fake dichotomy to divide and control its citizens) the power structure controlling that nation, and now our own nations, will just keep on ruling by mass deceptions, mass media brainwashing, mass fear mongering, and mass oppression.
They will just keep on marching over our faces and actually killing us unless there is a massive push-back for truth, freedom and justice.
@ fake
Albert Einstein once said, “Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.”. Yet, we see this being the default response by so many people to so many things. Rejecting something we know nothing about is staying ignorant, which means stagnancy in our evolution.
@ dwd
About pilots & flying :
Fact : A gyroscope ( standard equipment in all commercial airplanes ) operates on a constant level “plane” at all times.
Fact : pilots NEVER adjust the nose of the plane down to compensate for the Ficticious Earth curvature. ( Approx. 8″ per miles squared )
Fact a “plane” is traveling parallel over a flat or level surface.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/plane
FYI http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball.html
Hmmm.. Up to today, no explanation how the Astronauts went through the Van Allen belt without any harm to their bodies from radiations ?
A Van Allen radiation belt is a zone of energetic charged particles, most of which originate from the solar wind, that are captured by and held around a planet by that planet’s magnetosphere. Earth has two such belts, and sometimes others may be temporarily created. The belts are named after James Van Allen, who is credited with their discovery.
Were those Astronauts wrapped up in alumium foil for protection ??
IF YOU ARE STUDYING THE FAKE MOON LANDING GO HERE FOR TONS OF NEW INFO:
How LBJ Mooned America
Laurent Guyénot • 1,150 Comments
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So many comments…probably most have ended their reading of all of this by…but to Truthy1, if you’re still there, I ask:
1. Have you been to the edge of the “disk?”
2. If so, did you take pictures or make videos?
3. If not, have any of the flat-earthers you know or correspond with been there?
4. If you or they did, can you forward the pictures/videos to me?
4. If you haven’t been there, why not? If I were in your camp, going there would be a great aspiration
for me…definitely would be on the ol’ bucket list!
With 6-7 billion people on Earth today, you’d think at least of few thousand would have already been there by now. Those pictures would be so, so amazing!!!
Truthy1, when you say that the nose of a plane is never pointed “down,” how do you define “down?” A better description, I think, is that, upon achieving the desired altitude, a pilot maintains a more or less constant altitude or elevation above the earth. If he does that, then he will fly parallel to the surface of the earth, be it curved or flat. I haven’t flown a plane, but I know that to do this over long distances, the pilot must make adjustments if flying over a curved surface. A pilot may do this subconsciously by glancing at the altimeter from time to time, but the pilot is doing it nevertheless. Autopilots would do this automatically by way of whatever mechanism guides them. Do you have information that autopilot manufacturer’s are going along with a rouge concerning the shape of the earth? Why would they?
Have you heard of “great-circle navigation?” This is a bedrock of navigational practice…it takes account of the curvature of the earth to determine the shortest route between two points that are long distances apart. If the earth were flat, the formulas for this would be much simpler…in fact, they wouldn’t be needed. We’d just draw a straight line on a map.
I don’t know much about gyroscopes…but just looked them up. So there’s a disk that spins in a gyroscope, and the orientation of the disk, when the disk is set spinning, is resistant to changes in orientation due to conservation of angular momentum…like a spinning bicycle wheel. I don’t see what this has to do with shape of the earth’s surface, though. The gyroscope wouldn’t know there is a surface of the earth I would think.
Water may be a better example of what you’re attempting to get at with your question concerning gyroscopes. The water surface holds a “horizontal plane” at all points on the earth’s surface. How does it do this if the earth is round? It can do this because its shape is controlled by gravity, which is oriented along radial lines that pass through the center of mass of the earth. These radial lines are perpendicular to Earth’s surface at all points on the earth, which is possible if…the earth is a sphere.
Someone else asked how the Sun and the Moon are the same size. I’m not sure they are exactly, but, just going with the idea, the obvious answer is that the Sun, although way bigger than the Moon, is much farther away.
Some here have asked why the CIA/MI5/Mossad/etc. would propagate flat-earth theory…well the answer is, as I stated before…to make people who question Illuminati narratives out to be fools on all points…including the ones they’re spot-on about, particularly the evil that the Illuminati and their ilk get up to in practically every sphere (no pun intended) of life nowadays.
My question is why would they want to fool us into believing the earth is round if isn’t? I can’t think of an answer to that, so I’d like to hear from you all regarding why you think they’d want to do that…I just don’t see the incentive.
Once Germany had got rid of the jews they went from a broken bankrupt nation to the best and foremost in the world
the latest US stealth technology is based on what the Germans had
and why did not neville Chamberlian accept hitlers offer to remove the jews from the Uk ?
many old serviceman regtretted what they did
@ Truthy1 on February 4, 2022 at 10:01 pm
Albert Einstein once said, “Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.”. Yet, we see this being the default response by so many people to so many things. Rejecting something we know nothing about is staying ignorant,
No one you reference is rejecting the fakeness of the ‘moon landings’ – they’re saying the book seller that this article is about is a fake who’s lying about a ‘dead witness’ to sell yet another book filled with what everyone already knows + his extra made up stuff.
> which means stagnancy in our evolution.
I don’t see any evolution going on – only further descent into depravity, destruction and madness.
daniel tokely, Hitler wanted a Bolshevik free Germany not a jew free Germany! At the end of the war there were thousands of jews living in Germany. Many of Hitlers army officers etc were jews.
@Archibald: When I used to eat tripe, I used to take it with a pinch of salt and some vinegar-;)
With the earth revolving once in 24 hours and moving around the sun once a year and revolving 365 times.
Miles covered, that would be 584 million miles.
Plus 40,000 KM being one earth revolution+365 =14,600,000 in one year
“about 584 million miles
The distance from Earth to the sun — called an astronomical unit— is 92,955,807 miles (149,597,870 kilometers), according to the International Astronomers Union. That is the radius (r). The circumference of a circle is equal to 2 x π x r. So in one year, Earth travels about 584 million miles (940 million km)”
Earth/Circumference
40,075 km
It manages to do all that to within a second every year.
I’m sure God has come up with something a little more simple and far less complicated than that?
And we can measure it because we have the clocks to measure it!
954 million kilometers in total traveled. What could possibly go wrong?
Lots and lots and lots.
Facts exposing the Apollo moon landing hoax have been widely known for ages. This is less well-known: Objective evidence shows that highly advanced ETs are living on Mars now. https://evolutionofconsciousness.health.blog/
Too much to respond to, but I recommend Fight the Flat Earth for defeating them, although he has no Conspiracy knowledge (opposite of White elephant), and I agree with andyay in that Einstein is useless, but I would add that Leibniz is better than Newton. We should go back to him and start again.
What does the earth look like from the moon’s surface? HUGE. If you are standing on the moon and you look around it is desolate hell and a black sky (supposedly), and the earth would stand out like a gem, bright blue with life – compared to the moon grey and dead.
https://i.imgur.com/jrdSnkM.jpg
So next time you look at the moon, imagine 4 moons across – and that would be the diameter of earth (as seen from the moon). 17 moons clustered together is the size of earth seen from the moon. That is huge. And our gay astroNOTS prancing around the moon in their moon costumes never photographed it.
The point I am making is that on the moon the earth is the most prominent feature and would have taken up a huge volume of astronuts attention. THE EARTH WOULD APPEAR HUGE.
That was because they were on a movie set and overhead are the roof trusses, that have them dangling from wires. In fact one of the moon movies you can see the truss and stage props. In other moon movies you can see the wire and the flash of light ping.
WHY DO FLAT EARTHERS SWARM AROUND THE FAKE MOON LANDING?
(Imagine a stinky pile of fresh dog shit and a bunch of flies going crazy with ecstasy at an easy meal.)
Moon fakery brings out the flat earth crazies everytime. From the CIA comes flat earth psyop, and to discredit the truthsayers the flat earth is attached to every conspiracy theory. Flat earth is obviously false to a rational mind, so if the CIA attaches flat earth theories to the the faked moon landing they can discredit real research exposing the lies.
Flat earth is the Jew Cass Sunstein special. Flat earth is a real conspiracy by the powers that be to cover up their lies. Anyone promoting flat earth is either incredibly stupid or a paid disinformationist. Eric Dubay is the later, he takes other people’s Lunar Lander LEM analysis and repeats it exactly in his own production – then he puts the moon hoax in terms of a globe earth conspiracy (no such thing a space, earth is flat, etc.)
Flat earther on CIA payroll Eric Dubay on LEM:
NASAs Laughable Apollo Lunar Lander – By Éric Dubay
https://odysee.com/@May:9/NASAs-Laughable-Apollo-Lunar-Lander:c
Then we have the gullible Bible dupes who actually think the caveman Jew Bible is the world of god. They can not fathom that they’ve been lied to their whole life about the Holy Bible. The Bible says earth is flat, but it is not flat, and above the stars is not water, the stars are very far away in space. The earth is also not the center of the universe, and god doesn’t love us or give a shit what we do.
The Bible cosmological construct of the universe if flat out wrong. The Bible can not be taken literally true, and if you do so you are committing intellectual suicide. So if the Bible is wrong about the heavens, maybe it is also wrong about God. So you can see why Bible dupes are so adamant about discrediting the moon landing and asserting their primitive childlike mythology.
Goy Buoy, have you heard of centripetal acceleration? It’s what holds bodies in circular motion. You may think this is complicated, but, for God, this is simpler than 1, 2, 3 and A, B, C! He’s so, so intellectually superior to us! You may think of comparing a person’s mind to that of an insect as an appropriate analogy here, but even that would be unfair.
There are people who learn a few things (physicists, geneticists, etc., come to mind) about how things work (i.e., about God’s rules that govern the material plane)…and then they get the big head and start thinking there is no God. Many, like Bill Gates (not that he’s a real “scientist”), appoint THEMSELVES God (in his case, among other things, as evidenced by tampering with genes and thereby conspiring to kill millions of people (only God should decide when it’s time for a person to leave this life)). I believe nuclear science is another evil inspired by man’s arrogant quest to appoint himself God…for changing the atom is changing God’s creation…this is why it ends in disaster so often (nuclear accidents, wars, contamination, etc).
Physics is merely a set of rules that govern a portion of reality–the material plane. These are relatively simple rules that God made. The part that we’ve managed to understand (to a superficial degree only, I’m sure) is only the simple part…God must laugh at our arrogance! Nevertheless, the motion of the planets is governed by rules that God made, and a high school physics book will explain the details adequately to attain a working idea of this particular rule of the material plane. Perhaps you would have made a different set of rules…but be aware that your rules must be internally consistent…i.e., must not conflict with one another.
Understanding the simpler, most obvious aspects of the rules governing the material realm does not make humans gods. You may have a bit more understanding than the average person, but you have no idea of what holds the universe together, how it came to be, what contains it, or of a host of other aspects of things, and neither does anyone else. The more a person learns about all this, the humbler he or she should become, but, instead, many puff up with pride upon gaining a little knowledge.
God is smiling at this folly…one day each of us will meet him, and He will correct us on where we went wrong in our time here…not out of anger or vengeance I think…but out of love. Not even Bill Gates will be corrected out of anger or vengeance…but that doesn’t mean he should continue to participate in evil-doings without constraint…the pain of learning the right way will be great…and:
To whom much has been given shall much be required!
@lewis jones Do you think someone in the 1600s could come up with “every particle in the universe attracts every other particle with a force proportional to the mass of the particles, and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between the particles”? Also that someone could talk about a vacuum, when they did not know that air had weight or mass if you prefer.
I once had a back and forth on jewtube re the curvature of the earth, I pointed out that the Suez canal is over one hundred and thirty miles in length and without a single lock, I asked “where is the curve?” the one that should be there according to globeist geometry, informed that the builders had factored it in, I replied saying that in that case, a ship must enter at one end, make it’s way UP the canal until reaching the rise in the middle then slowly sail DOWN the other side! never heard back from him. as for dwd’s tired lazy falling off the edge , water, in order to remain in one place requires a container and invariably always has a perfectly flat level surface once contained, (please post no crap about round water droplets they are droplets not vast oceans!) water, in a lake, a glass, or a pisspot unless frozen into a shape always has a flat surface once contained. the container in the case of the earths oceans being simply frozen water as a circular wall surrounding the earth surface that we know about (there may be much more of “earth” than we know, hence the secrecy and psyop) lastly, (I’m sure you all realise I could go on and on and on) have a look at the Michelson Morley experiment proving that the earth is in fact motionless..
Some good replies on here about FE, but I’ve realised that it’s pretty pointless in going into long discussions about it, purely for the reason that those who do not believe in FE are no different to those who believe in the holocaust and the continuing persecution of jews.
It’s a waste of time quite frankly. You are treated exactly the same.
Really, the more you read into FE, no differently to the holocaust, the official heliocentric model just falls apart.
As I stated, I’m not getting into a discussion on this, because you cannot wake these people up. They have to wake up themselves. They have to snap out of the control mechanism that’s gripped them since they were young, however you can drop some pointers to guide them in the right direction.
All of space, everything has come completely from freemasons (jews) and promoted by the science fiction authors. Yes, you’re believing science fiction and it’s really hilarious that you are incapable of realising that your very belief, in space, started when you saw the globe earth at school, or in a book when you were young. Then the indoctrination just increased continually.
As Robert Purnell (who has written good replies on this on this forum) shows, there are five major organizations that use the FE model as their logo, why?
A good reply by andjay on how we have cast aspersions towards the men of wisdom of old and believe the words of jewish hacks like Einstein whom, I might add along with Marx and Freud, was put into place in order to promote jewish intellect, because of the then public distrust in jews. Those three were another carefully placed psy-op.
You are simply incapable of accepting that what is outside Earth is contrary to your brainwashing.
I’ve read so much about it. What made me realise the Earth is indeed not a globe was focal points and the horizon. What is the focal point? It is the point at which your vision concentrates upon. Take a sheet of paper and draw two lines; one from the top right to the bottom left, the other from the top left to the bottom right. The point at which the two lines intersect is your focal point and everything outside of that is your field of vision (left, right, up, down, diagonally and further forward).
The human eye can only see so far. When ships leave our focal point on the sea, we have happily accepted the lie that they disappear over the horizon. However, upon inspection of this you will see something very different. On a warm day, go to a large stretch of water (ocean/sea) and watch a ship disappear. Now look what happens as it disappears? Everything around will begin to blur. The hull of the boat will begin to disappear along with the top and the sides. You will make out what is within and that will eventually disappear. It is leaving your focal point and the blurring is your eye, unable to make out what is there. And to complete this illusion, bring out a telescope or a high powered camera and you will be able to bring the vessel completely back into sight. Also, look at the horizon, it will be well in front of the vessel, a good many miles in front.
This is all that’s happening. it’s leaving your focal point.
This is, by far, one of the realities that when you understand it, you see that the earth is, in fact, very, very long. How long? I don’t know, but it goes on beyond the ice wall (Antarctica). Yes, Antarctica is all around is. There is no South Pole, only the center of the earth, which is slap bang in the middle of the FE map. The Ice wall is no different to the bath walls in your home. It holds in the water. All you have to do is read about the Atlantic treaties. You are not allowed to go there, well only to the tourist parts. If you try to go anywhere else, you’ll be met by armed forces personnel. If you’re in a plane, you’ll be shot down. This is a simple fact. Antarctica is an ice wall, surrounding the earth and there are many continents beyond. But what? The way I see it, the ice wall is there for one of two reasons or both – to keep us from leaving earth (for our own protection) and to stop that, what is outside, from getting into earth.
Did any of you ever wonder why Tolkien called the land in his novels – Middle Earth?
Here’s some simple common sense (as I said, I’ll drop some things for you to think about). We are told that the earth spins at 1,000mph. If you do the maths you’ll find that boils down to around 430 meters every second, the earth moves, counter clockwise.
But you can’t feel this can you? You can’t feel the motion? Why? Because of the wonderful thing, never explained, called gravity. It’s laughable that people forego all common sense to believe in this magic that holds everything in. When I encroach on this, in conversation, should it ever occur (very rarely indeed), people say: “ah, yes, motion, but you see, if you were born in a car that was constantly moving forward, you wouldn’t feel the motion would you”? explaining the earth. However, I then say that’s possible, but the earth doesn’t just move forward (as we’re told spinning at millions of miles away from the big bag while circling the sun, itself traveling) it rotates. I ask them how they would fair, driving down the road at 100mph and doing a right or a left turn without any breaks? I then tell them, now imagine travelling forwards at 1,000mph and turning at the same speed?
You see, people are unable to see this simple reality. Everyone ALWAYS feel the slightest movement when they turn left or right in a vehicle. We happen to be rotating (turning) at 432m a second and we can all walk perfectly on this earth, not spill our coffee while walking down the street, in fact stay ON THIS EARTH!!! If we are spinning at 432m a second, it means that if we jumped up, the land below us would travel 432m away from us. It would mean that a jumbo jet, traveling from London to France, at 450mph, would never arrive, but in fact, be met by France coming up behind it. Have you thought just how impossible it would be for a plane to land at an airport moving at 432m per second?
Again, it’s all, just, simple common sense. There are thousands of videos that prove the earth is flat. There’s the Suez canal, the longest stretch of water on this earth and it’s completely flat – watch videos on YouTube of sped up traversing of it in vessels.
Finally, the CIA has nothing to do with FE. FE has been here for thousands of years. I will say that there is a lot of disinformation regarding FE and never trust the Flat Earth Society for they ARE a psy-op, created to destroy FE. If you seek knowledge look at the International Flat Earth Society and read the writings of Eric Dubay. He’s destroyed everyone in debate.
You will always continually be in a mental prison until you free your mind. Again, that which you know of heliocentrism, globe earth, planets (plane with a ‘t’ on the end LOL), galaxies, aliens, universes etc is all science fiction, promoted by TPTB who have purposefully restricted people from their culture and history, forbidding them the knowledge of their ancestors in order to control them.
Instead what they do is they promote the lie of a universe billions of light years in size to make you feel utterly and completely insignificant in the grand scheme of things. They want you to feel like a grain of sand, on a beach, itself a grain of sand on another beach, itself a grain of sand on another beach and so on. They want you to believe you came from monkeys and fish. They do not want you to realise that you are unique, you are very special indeed and a creation of God to be the very goodness that you know to be true from the day you were born, laughing and smiling as a child, who grows up in a world and becomes sad and unhappy.
You are being lied to.
You have always been lied to.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State.” (it’s a debated topic on who said this. Many believe Goebbels).
Remember that there is a commandment – “Thou shalt not bear false witness on thy neighbour” and many times Christ spoke out against deceit and deception. It ends friendships, rips apart families and destroys nations and civilizations. And it is for this very reason that lying is the main tool of the jew. And they’re winning because of it.
You all need to wake up. We are not spinning in a ball people.
Flat earth stuff is just religious types trying to bring god into it + trolls yanking your chain. Neither are worth responding to.
The guy at the top of this page in the video is yet another boring person trying to make money from what everyone already knows. I listened to the video – nothing new there.
What would be far more interesting is if someone actually did that now non existant thing of actual investigative journalism, and tried to PROVE the current space stuff is fake. But that requires money and effort, whereas everyone wants to spout without expending either. If I had the money I’d pay someone to put a gps transmitter on one of the ‘astronauts’ to track their space ‘journey’, and also try to film one of the ‘space x’ ‘rockets’ landing (instead of showing them taking off in reverse). You could also pay someone to cozy up to one of these female ‘astronauts’ to get them to tell us why their hair is doing that thing in ‘space’. I would imagine that some of the current space con is real – but who knows? – but some of it is also obviously fake, just like the ‘good old days’. Anyone that works at nasa today is clearly suspect simply because they support the fake stuff from 69/70. Just as your entire ‘government’ is guilty for not speaking up about the deadly ‘vaccines’.
@ dwd
The only way a plane can fly parallel to the curved surface of ball earth is by pitching the nose of plane down to match the earth’s curvature.
A gyroscope is contained within the attitude indicator or artificial horizon instrument. The spinning gyroscope remains vertical but any change in the orientation of plane with ground and vertical gyroscope , whether pitch , roll .or yaw would be indicated on instrument . So if nose was pitched down to follow earth’s curvature , it would be seen on the the attitude indicator. Pilots don’t compensate for curvature. Here’s a quick 2 min explanation.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/emMmwuAuGzna/
You’re comment about gravity controlling shape of earth and ocean is incoherent and gravity doesn’t exist . A phantom force created to hold a fictitious universe together.
Scroll up to my previous comment if you didn’t read it , regarding ball earth model defying natural properties of water.
The flat earth psyop is doing a lot of damage to genuine truth-seeking. Many folks “graduating” from the Daily Mail comments section and thirsty for knowledge after waking up from the current psyop, are likely to shake their heads in disbelief at those professing flat earth.
By attaching flat earth to anything, it discredits it.
Ok:
1. I don’t believe the earth is flat – I believe it’s a globe (you know, squashed a bit, or whatever).
2. Why are there no PHOTOGRAPHS of the globe anywhere?
3. Why does this seem to prove the earth is flat?:
https://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za05.htm
https://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za06.htm
The crypto-Jew, LBJ and the monstrous Kissinger were behind all of the Kennedy assassinations, the enormous escalation of the Vietnam war, the USS Liberty atrocity and, despite the actual landings being after Johnson’s time, the moon hoax.
Flat Earth nonsense is an obvious con-job designed to entrap, discredit and subject to ridicule all those who don’t fully and unquestioningly buy into the government’s narrative on a range of issues, most specifically the Apollo psy-op.
I’m surprised that nobody here has mentioned Aulis:
https://www.aulis.com/investigation0.htm
It’s a goldmine of good analysis.
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Well I say, Guv-nah, nothing makes for a robust comment section like a little bit of lunacy! Remember that old Bugs Bunny cartoon? ‘The Earth!?? She’s a FLAT!! NO! She’s a ROUND!!’
In my thirteenth year I acquired a 3 inch reflecting telescope as a Christmas gift. Coupled with star maps from the Royal Astronomical Society I was able to successfully locate and view Jupiter, ‘he’s a round!’
Along with Saturn and Mars, both of which are indeed round. Does that meager pinch of juvenile research prove that the Earth is as well? No. Did I merely see what I wanted and expected to see? No. I would have loved nothing more than the fame and ego trip that would have accompanied my discovery that Jupiter is just a big flat island in space.
Sunrise and sunset is a major problem for the flat Earth society, in my humble opinion. And I’m sure that Eric Dubay, amongst others, could not illuminate the issue for me. Admittedly, astrophysics and mathematics are certainly no specialty of mine.
Nothing is more amusing than seeing the results of our dumbed down societies or Western Civilization than seeing imbeciles and morons vying with one another over “flat earth”.
One word for all the high school dropouts pushing the childish flat earth delusion: Eratosthenes.
Google it. That’s all the proof you need. “buh, buh, I never heard of him” Exactly. That’s why ya shoulda stayed in school, kiddo. Also, everyone should read Charlotte Iserbyt’s “The Dumbing Down of America” … it’s relevant to this discussion.
“2. Why are there no PHOTOGRAPHS of the globe anywhere?”
Because nothing has been above earth’s orbit in order to send pictures, or because of radiation etc., able to send pictures. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. See Bob Smith’s and my estimation of Voyager etc
(I may also chip in that while I believe anti-gravity craft exist, I believe they are unable to leave [low]orbit.)
And this is the thing, the CIA or whoever, have been able to collect all the evidence of fake moon-landings, deep sea divers seen in ISIS footage, antarctic lemmings seen on Mars, and absence of genuine pictures of earth, and lump it all in with all half baked flat earth crap.
The mechanism of discrediting by association has been seen very recently used when agent provocateurs dressed up in Hollywood style stereotype “right wing” regalia are used to discredit ordinary men, women, grannies, and children on anti lock-down demos.
Study away the dogmas that make up a loud fray
Consider and shake the dogmas in a thoughtful way-ee-ay
Sticking around on a planet that’s round is my home ground
Waiting for something to show me how I’m being play-ee-ayed
Tired of lies about the sunlight
Staying home to watch the ‘plane’ Planks are square but spheres are round
And you’ve got time to shave today
And then one day you find nine spheres have gone behind you
No one told you, listen hon’
This is the Armageddonnnnnn….
Sheesh! As always, forgive me for that.
@ dwd – ya know there are morons out there who believe the same shit you do – and they get very ‘triggered’ by ANY mention of FE because it threatens everything they believe and have built lives around – you and your ilk have swallowed every lie they presented you with. You see dwd – we didn’t just wake one day and decide to change our minds about the shape of the earth – we got to this point thru looking at the myriad inconsistencies in the ‘accepted’ fairy tale – we did our own research and put certain conclusions to practical tests. I have put questions to retired international airline pilots during our golf days – like how do you land a jumbo on a north-south runway somewhere near the equator where earth is supposedly spinning west to east at 1600+ KPH ? Answer after long difficult pause ‘ Gee I haven’t really thought about it’ – this from an ex captain with thousands of hours flying. And please don’t try n tell me the atmosphere is travelling at the same speed – think about the implications of THAT….FFS. See dwd morons of your ilk don’t go there but you only have to find something that doesn’t ‘fit’ the fairy tale and the whole thing comes undone – and I have hundreds – here’s one – I can stand on the sand locally and look across the water to an offshore island with binoculars- the shore is clearly visible- BUT going on ‘their’ Luciferian calculations for ‘curvature’ there should be 80 feet of it over the observed distance – yet it isn’t there – there is ZERO curvature ….I have lots more but you won’t want to go there – it’s more comfort to your like to retain belief in Santa (aka Satan) – take another blue pill n be happy in the matrix of lies.
For DWD
Maybe you want to read about a ‘flat non rotating earth’ direct from the snake’s mouth ….
https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/pdf/88104main_H-1391.pdf
Like I said but somehow my commentary wasn’t allowed on this …. I’ll try again n see if the same thing happens – here it is from the mouth of the snake …..
https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/pdf/88104main_H-1391.pdf
> Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
Nor is it evidence of existence. Are we really expected to believe that a species that is so very very clever cannot take a photograph of a planet?
The jews can fake every single thing that you’re given by them and theirs: anything on tv, anything in a book, anything in ‘papers’, anything on the internet, anything taught by a ‘teacher’ (who’s just spouting at you what was originally spouted at them). Even if you get on a plane and ‘fly around the world’, how do you KNOW you flew around the world? Even if you consulted a gps, both the gps in your hand and the machine sending signals to the gps are owned and controlled by jews. What they CANNOT change however is your own observation. I looked at the links provided by “flatish going on round” and I can’t make what is written there tally with a round earth. Can you? Or are we just going to conveniently ignore what doesn’t fit our ideas, like good little nasa’ites? The links:
https://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za05.htm
https://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za06.htm
“> Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
Nor is it evidence of existence. Are we really expected to believe that a species that is so very very clever cannot take a photograph of a planet?
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Yes, that is what I’m saying. But obviously “clever” enough to fake photographs as well as sending out their bots to forum comments sections etc to “stir the pot”.
Mankind’s cleverness to deceive has not been matched by his ability to achieve. (I think I’ll copyright that…)
@dwd
Earth is very special, you know.
So special, it’s the only place where life exists.
God created earth and God created life.
It’s possible you know, that earth could be one very special place.
Typical illogical responses from globe earth apologists. Emotionalism and denial vs. scientific method.. Very little substance to any of your comments Never addressing any of the countless irrefutable proofs of flat earth. Just slinging insults and diverting away from intelligent discourse. Lawyers are taught when in court — if you have the facts , pound the facts – if you have the law , pound the law – if you have neither the facts nor the law , POUND THE TABLE .
What don’t you guys understand about the concept of empirical evidence ?
The ball earth model can be disproved Q.E.D.– Simple observations and simple calculations are all that’s necessary No need for college professors and blackboards full of equations or need to consume more NASA hoax factory magic. Just use your own eyes , what better proof than that ? You can see vastly greater distances than should be possible according to dimensions of the model presented to us. We don’t live on a ball 8000 miles / 13000 km in diameter. That can be verified with a pair of binoculars and 5th grade math.
Two things need to be stated…
1. I’m incredibly disappointed that people are unable to debate on here without it turning into slagging match. And both parties are guilty. The vitriolic abuse from some people to others is incredibly sad to see.
Yukon Jack is someone I respect for his many words of wisdom and didn’t expect him to lower himself in his opposition to FE.
This is why the Jew is winning. They’re united. This comment section proves just how fractured we are.
And again, just how can research into FE damage truth seeking? If you can’t even accept the greatest lie of all, your own habitat’s shape/size, how can you see all the many others?
Why would the CIA, one of the many institutions of TPTB used to control and manipulate society, promote FE, when heliocentrism comes from freemasonry?
2. You’re still not getting it. EVERYTHING YOU KNOW ABOUT SPACE, PLANETS, ALIENS etc all comes from TPTB (Freemasonry who are the puppets of Jews, ‘talmudism for the goyim as it’s known). All was created by science fiction writers. And you keep up this nonsense.
All you so called free thinkers, who are through the BS of today, the Holocaust, WW2, WW1, germ theory, the great plague, the great fire, the English revolution and so on instantly act like their opposition when FE is mentioned.
I don’t take a stance on something unless I know it’s true. I guarantee, that all of you, one day, will come to the conclusion we don’t live in a globe. You will because you’re inquisitive and it will just got you one day, when you manage to release yourself from the control you’re still under by TPTB. Yes Yukon Jack, if you are the free thinker that you are, you’ll question it until you see that the earth is flat.
I do hope you see sense people, all those who oppose FE. As I stated in my above reply, watch a ship disappear over the horizon then bring it back into view with a camera/telescope. Look at the Suez canal. There’s no curve. All completely flat. And there are loads of videos of people going to areas of large water masses and using laser scoping to show the earth is flat by connecting to people in their other side of the water masses.
The earth is flat.
It always has been.
You’re all being lied to and worse accepting it.
Well, Markie, I pounded no law, facts, or tables. There’s ample puffery in your post but no pudding. And as they say, ‘the proof is in the pudding!’.