Kevin Ryan – Off-Guardian Jan 5, 2022
It’s been a year since I’ve written anything for this blog. The reason, frankly, is that I have been at a loss for words. What has happened to human society in the last two years has been, for anyone with an understanding of history, beyond belief.
Of course, it should not be beyond belief because we know history repeats itself. And in the last two years it has been repeating with a vengeance.
I spent 18 years working to understand, and help others understand, the crimes of September 11, 2001. Those crimes were never honestly investigated apart from the work of independent researchers. The official accounts are widely known to be false and those who have taken the time to look deeper have found that there are good reasons to believe that people within government and major corporations were involved in planning and executing the attacks.
September 11th was a deception used by rich and powerful people to steal resources, consolidate power, and control the masses. It was just one example of such a mass deception. Others include the following.
- The CIA’s assassination of JFK
- The false Gulf of Tonkin incident that escalated the CIA’s war in Vietnam
- The deceptions used to justify the 1991 Gulf War
- The government-sponsored 2001 anthrax attacks
- Claims of weapons of mass destruction used to justify the second invasion of Iraq
- The many manufactured terrorist events following 9/11
- Previously hyped pandemics, including the 2005 “Bird Flu” and 2009 “Swine Flu” that were grossly exaggerated by the World Health Organization for the benefit of big pharma companies
Along with these conveniently over-looked crimes, the last 18 months have shown that the 9/11 lie was not taken seriously. Anyone who still believes that governments and media care about our health has forgotten that deep state actors murdered thousands of citizens on 9/11. The corporate media and corporate-owned governments then covered it up so that a million more could be murdered to steal resources and control people.
Historical illiteracy is largely to blame for the Covid scare although much of that illiteracy is by choice, through willful ignorance of events that cause cognitive dissonance. The examples cited above are but a few in the long history of deceptions used by governments to drive the agendas of the powerful few. People who ignore these historical facts not only turn a bind eye to history, they ignore painfully obvious features of current affairs including that “terrorism” has mysteriously disappeared.
People don’t want to acknowledge the fact that we do not live in democratic societies any longer. Yet today the world is fully run by an oligarchy and that oligarchy wants us to be diverted and outraged about superficial things while staying ignorant or silent on issues important to us like the following.
- Indefinite detention without charges at Guantanamo Bay
- Unwarranted mass surveillance
- Voting machine hacking and election theft
- Failure to prosecute the crimes of previous administrations (e.g. drone killings targeting weddings and funerals, torture at CIA black sites)
- The increasing totalitarian censorship of dissenting views
Some people have accepted or ignored the poverty and famine being driven by the reckless response to Covid. And they have also ignored that the people driving the Covid scare have a history of crimes against humanity. Not the least of these are Bill Gates, who has monopolized healthcare and has tried to buy off the media, and Anthony Fauci, who is known for having killed nearly 200,000 HIV patients with the toxic drug AZT.
How has the public’s willful ignorance been established so easily? The Covid crimes were carefully practiced beforehand through a series of exercises conducted by governments and corporations since 9/11. And the operation builds upon elements utilized in all the previous government crimes against humanity. Here are three primary components.
- As has been demonstrated through all of history, the most effective way to dumb down a population is through fear. Communism, terrorism, WMDs, virus… it all works the same way. This basic feature of the Covid scare is one of many features and outcomes that it shares with previous psychological operations.
- Censorship is another hallmark of authoritarian tyranny and we are seeing it raised to a new level in the media today. Any doctor or scientist who has spoken out about the obvious lack of scientific scrutiny applied to the Covid scare has been blocked on social media and ignored or smeared on television, radio, and in print.
- In America the most useful tool driving willful ignorance has been the narrative behind the phony 2-party system in politics. The Covid scare works in part because many Americans are easily controlled through the farcical theater of “right-left” identity politics. Today if you want “the left” to take a position, all that is needed is to frame it as opposition to Trump. Control of “the right” is just as easy. This works despite the fact that we are ruled by an oligarchy that does the same things no matter who is in office.
Added to this formula of fear, censorship, and cartoonish politics has been the complete abandonment of science. Scientific illiteracy is known to be quite high in America, but that has become the case for many nations and today anyone with a lab coat and a pointer promoted by the media is accepted as a scientific authority. What people often forget is that it was doctors, not soldiers, who committed the worst crimes in Nazi Germany. These days it is just as easy to buy a doctor or a scientist as it is to buy a politician.
Scientific literacy in America took a giant leap downward after 9/11. The absurd anti-scientific approach taken by the government for the destruction of the Word Trade Center buildings was either accepted or left unquestioned by many Americans. No doubt the death of science with respect to 9/11 was a key step in enabling the Covid scam.
Here are a few examples of how people around the world abandoned science when it came to Covid.
- The PCR test for Covid infection in the U.S., which was used in many other countries as well, did not identify a unique coronavirus. In other words, the test had a high rate of false positives. Still, people accepted the narrative of “cases” that drove the fear.
- The policy endorsed by the WHO and the CDC that attributed Covid as a cause of death for anyone who tested positive using the false PCR test, no matter what their actual cause of death was, dramatically inflated the number of deaths attributed to Covid.
- Both the word vaccine and the word pandemic were redefined by agencies like the WHO to enable the Covid scare.
- The “vaccines” are experimental gene therapies that are making people sick and killing them. Those bought into the vaccine narrative responded to this fact with the diversionary claim that the Covid drugs do not change your DNA. But most gene therapies do not change your DNA. Instead, they provide a functioning gene in addition to your DNA. More importantly, all the Covid “vaccines” provide genetic material that drives the production of toxic spike proteins that cause blood clotting, endothelial tissue damage, antibody dependent enhancement, and death.
- The Emergency Use Authorizations under which these Covid drugs were granted temporary approvals were based on fraudulent attacks against long-established, effective treatments like Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine. The suppression of these effective drugs is responsible for the deaths of the patients who did die from Covid (instead of just with Covid).
How do we go forward realizing that many of our friends, family, and coworkers have decided to remain willfully ignorant of history and science and the facts about the Covid psychological operation?
It is a difficult question but one that has a few clear answers. First, we must stop parroting the absurd official narrative regarding Covid. It is an illness that has a 99.7% survival rate for the elderly and higher for everyone else. And it is very obviously a tool of propaganda in a psychological operation that exhibits all the features and outcomes of previous psychological operations. So, the first step is to not accept or repeat the nonsense narrative.
Secondly, since social media and other corporate media are completely compromised and engage in censorship of any facts related to Covid, we must reach people directly. This means speaking out locally, and contacting your city, county, and state government representatives to oppose the Covid agenda.
There are creative ways to resist as well. For example, if you are forced to wear a mask in public areas in order to conduct your life, put a message on the mask that lets like minded people see you. Something like “Mind Control” or “You stay safe, I’ll stay free” would work.
Finally, realizing that this will all get much worse before it gets better, plan to reduce your dependence on goods and services controlled by the oligarchy. If you can, get off the grid. In other words, find alternative sources of power, food, water, and the other necessities of life before the ultimate tool of control—the vaccine passport—limits your access.
The psychological operations of the media and political establishment are ramping up. They’re targeting every weakness of the gullible public, from its scientific and historical illiteracy to its most banal prejudices, in order to inflame superficial separations from the farcical left/right division to racial tensions. They know us better than we know ourselves.
Let’s resist these provocations and see if we can establish control groups within this corrupt system that can survive and educate future generations.
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Kevin Ryan is a chemist, former laboratory director, and prominent voice in the 9/11 Truth movement. You can read more his work at his blog. You can also watch his testimony to the Toronto Hearings on 9/11 here, his video on the parallels between 9/11 and Covid here and his interview as part of our Covid19/11 series here.
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6,000 years ago Cain murdered his brother Abel, and Cain never batted an eyelid.
Cain`s descendants have been butchering and murdering ever since, you can trace them down through history, it`s very easy.
Today Cain`s descendants are murdering again and this time they are using a “Needle.”
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“The Great Culling” a short video (2.19)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJnR2hBY-H0
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John 8:44.
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
“Scientific literacy in America took a giant leap downward after 9/11. The absurd anti-scientific approach taken by the government for the destruction of the Word Trade Center buildings was either accepted or left unquestioned by many Americans. No doubt the death of science with respect to 9/11 was a key step in enabling the Covid scam.”
– that is so true. The old-fashioned scientific method has more or less disintegrated. Instead, Big Pharma speaks to hypnotise the masses.
“How do we go forward realizing that many of our friends, family, and coworkers have decided to remain willfully ignorant?”
We just wait for them to wake up or die…
NO REGRET FOR IGNORANT IDIOTS !
“Willfully ignorant” is the key phrase and it is correct.
The first paragraph rings true also:
“It’s been a year since I’ve written anything for this blog. The reason, frankly, is that I have been at a loss for words. What has happened to human society in the last two years has been, for anyone with an understanding of history, beyond belief.”
I had 50 blogs and thousands of essays with many thousands of graphics, memes I had created – all deleted by the evil ADL operatives who work inside Google Blogger and WordPress. I was planning on putting them up on another host, but when they pulled the Covid stunt in a couple of weeks I realized there was no point, because now they had did it, the velvet glove came off the iron fist, and now they were going to kill the world – and it was going to be close and personal with this death jab.
It was obvious to me then and still is true now, if you ignore this false flag medical emergency and play along with their lies then you will be soon dead. All those sheep (like my entire family for instance) who remain willfully ignorant of 911, who couldn’t care less about what is going on, were about to be ground up by the machine.
” the last 18 months have shown that the 9/11 lie was not taken seriously.”
Even my own brother separated by only one year in age, who I grew up hunting with and going into the wilderness on month long canoe trips, thinks I am a fool conspiracy nut wasting his time. His entire focus is making as much money as he can, he has a PhD in Engineering, he is married to another PhD and they don’t care at all about what I’ve told them. They just stare at me like deer caught in the headlights. All this stuff on this site would just bore them to tears and make them get up and leave you alone.
My brother found out about what I was writing, someone in the family found out my avatar name and they all became very concerned, they found out my blogs were ‘antisemitic’ and even threatened to turn me into the FBI. I made the mistake of even telling them I was a writer, a blogger who wrote about conspiracies.
All of these people in my family – all extremely well educated – all go to weekly Catholic mass – are fully vaxxed – and do not suspect anything is wrong with this Covid psyop. They have all bought it hook, line and sinker. My brother chides me, I bet you aren’t vaxxed, shakes his head and walks away in disgust. My aging father even wrote me a letter saying I must get vaxxed. He has multiple PhDs and used to teach math and physics – but obviously so indoctrinated his scientific training doesn’t kick in, he watches television, and as a good Catholic WHO GOES TO MASS EVERY SINGLE MORNING, he does not suspect anything.
They are all dead and don’t even know it, in fact I postulate they are spiritually dead, meaning they have nothing going on inside that even makes them wary. And it is not just them, I watch these youtube videos of some girl keeling over in a gym where they are doing mass vaccinations, all these people just sit there, like lumps on a log, when a vaxxed subject falls over dead right next to them.
Humanity is done for, and I say millions are already dead, and since reports are now saying more than one jab your chances of dying go up, that means not only does the vaxx not work at all, it is making you vulnerable, your immune system compromised. That means my own family is at high risk and it is only a matter of time until the phone call – such and such died.
And even if they start dying and I tell them what is going on, they will not believe me, and if I tell them Jews are behind it, they will think I am the antichrist. All I can do at this point is maintain my own center. It is important to remain centered in a crisis. My resolve against Jews is now infinite, these bastards are mass murdering my own family. I seek the new A.H. who organizes the nation against the tribe.
Reality is a bitch. To me, this is Darwinian Natural Selection in play. If you don’t get it then you die. This is a stress test, those who didn’t pay attention are soon going to be out of the gene pool, and the only good news is the survivors will be a population of wary and cautious skeptics.
There was a time when the USA was actually was a decent place. That all ended in the early 20th
century. The problem today is that the vast majority of Americans are either afraid to admit the truth, or
willfully ignore the truth. The Truth is that the US federal government is the greatest criminal enterprise
of all time. Look at the number of people the US has killed over the past century. WAR, DEATH and
DESTRUCTION are the business of the US government.
Kevin provides a very balanced review into what is actually going on. Regarding the grid, the most important grid to get off of is the the main stream media, and find alternative truthful sources of information. There is a reason why they keep pumping the same narratives day in and day out, to include the ads. Deviations from truth become accepted as fact by continual repetition.
We must keep repeating the simple fact that:THERE IS NO PANDEMIC! Pandemics are self evident. In this case : The absence of evidence is evidence of absence.
All the rest just bogs us down in irrelevant details of the non-existent pandemic.Don’t waste your time on this because there is no pandemic nor have we just been through one.
Keep it simple , keep it factual. Rinse and repeat.
You can’t fix stupid, and most people are stupid. In this case terminally stupid. I don’t bother talking to people any more. I’m just going to sit back and watch them die.
What Kevin says is absolutely true and you would think that these facts and reasons would wake up more of the sheeple. Many of us made the same links between 9/11 and the Covid scam as early as March 2020 saying that both operations had the same fingerprints and likely because of the sophistication Israel or the Mossad was somehow involved in the wet work.
Since then the blatant crimes against humanity have only multiplied with the politicisation and militarization of our entire medical systems for whatever agendas have been planned by the totally criminal top-down cartel running all of our nations including China and Russia. Kevin, however, in his list of facts is only scratching the surface of just how actually corrupt and criminal everything under the sun actually is. We who have been trained in critical thinking and who have not sold out to some establishment organization are all terribly naïve in our contention that simply exposing facts and reasons will somehow materialize in some reformation which will not be totally contrived if found useful to the criminal masterminds running things. We have been trained to obey the authority of facts and reasons in our lives and we still believe that honesty and decency and not stealth and corruption rules all. I wish it were otherwise.
What do I mean in saying that Kevin is only scratching the surface of things? With any analysis of what is going on with everything – the fake economic doomsday scenario, the Russia-USA protection racket, the 21 to 1 return to millions of investors in the criminal vaccine industry, all of your friends who invest in Google, Microsoft, and the vaccine companies, fakes like Trump, Johnson, and Trudeau, and then we consider that in this top-down structure running the Covid scam, controlling all major corporations, financial institutions, health agencies, the military, the media, the courts, and our governments, there is no real opposition. They have systematically suppressed all relevant facts and reasons and they keep doing it – all information as to actual risks of the vaccines, but also the cures to prevent any deaths from the virus to that actual small risk group they have used to generate the scare. I can think of nothing more heinous and things are so locked up with the criminals who run everything that as with 9/11 we know there will be no consequences or accountability.
The reason is that the overwhelming majority of the people have sold out to the principle that might makes right and if they have not then they know very well that unless they shut up and obey, their jobs or their livelihoods or even their lives may be snuffed out. Our nations are actually criminal enterprises and the people at the top in fact control the major crime organizations. As long as it is organized and makes money then it is Kosher and the only question is who is to be in charge. Despite all of the good facts and reason from all of the independent and honest investigators and experts like Kevin in our nations, what we have to wake up to is just how corrupt everything actually is. Also, if they want to cancel our liberties and our right to life completely to release a more lethal virus they have shown us how easy that will be for them.
The PCR test for Covid infection in the U.S., which was used in many other countries as well, did not identify a unique coronavirus. In other words, the test had a high rate of false positives. Still, people accepted the narrative of “cases” that drove the fear
To make that worse, the CDC now admits that the PCR test cannot differentiate between C-1984 and the flu!!!
R.C.
(I may have already said this. If so, please ignore Henry.)
RC
@Yukon Jack, I get it…it’s the Jews, the Jews. But do you really think they could seriously pull all this off? They could be minions doing the work of something in this reality that we’ll never understand. And for the masses, most are mind controlled zombies, npc’s or soul-less beings perhaps, that are incapable of waking up and are here only to further the matrix agenda. It’s given us “truthers” the Jews to blame and point fingers at, therefore it’s most likely something much bigger. Nothing is what it seems in this world.
Great information EXCEPT: “What people often forget is that it was doctors, not soldiers, who committed the worst crimes in Nazi Germany”….. Did you stop looking back in history at WWII, or are YOU wilfully ignorant/lying?
@ Ken
“@Yukon Jack, I get it…it’s the Jews, the Jews. But do you really think they could seriously pull all this off?”
!. Who owns and operates the media? Jews. All of the MSM is a single voice pro-vaxx and pro-covid propaganda. So it is the Jews.
2. Who owns big Pharma? Jews.
3. Who has a religious goal of killing off all the Goyim? Jews.
Yeah, it is the Jews. Listen to the Dr. Duke radio show on rense radio. Everyday he proves it the Jews.
Dr. David Duke
Monday-Friday 8-9 am Pacific, 11 – Noon Eastern
http://www.renseradioarchives.com/
http://www.renseradioarchives.com/dduke/
I feel a tremendous empathy for those who have commentated above. I’ve been a “conspiracy theorist” for more than 20 years, having had my family roll their eyes at me for all of that time. I’ve followed Yukon Jack through his different sites, mostly agreeing. I’ve looked at the human race with hope, but more with despair. I’ve read about Jews and the forces behind them. I’ve seen Freemasonry first hand. I’ve been a soldier and an anti-soldier. I’ve lived with the richest and the poorest in this world. I’m not claiming any particular insight as a consequence, perhaps the opposite.
I don’t think any of us disputes that a great event is unfolding before our eyes. Perhaps the “Evil Ones” that have controlled us ever since our “creation” (Yukon) are now taking off the gloves. Perhaps our freedom, which we never had, but did have, is being threatened to be taken away, perhaps permanently. As a race we’ve committed great crimes against “Nature” and perhaps it is now payback time. Perhaps, this is the time we get to really see ourselves in the mirror. Perhaps this is the time when the real test of the human spirit takes place. Perhaps the wheat will be separated from the chaff for some reason unknown to us. Perhaps this is a soul test. I could go on.
I do not have the answers and I have yet to know of anyone that does. All I would say is that we are now in place where we, those of us who have “seen”, are warriors who need to fight for what we believe is right. That belief exists in our core and needs no justification. The fight needs to be for the fight because we believe it to be just. The outcome is presently unknown but that should not take away our will to fight. I’d like to offer more, but that is as I see it. Perhaps, when the war is over, and we have won, the survivors can swap war stories. To those who say we can resolve this without conflict, I’d ask “How?” Sometimes conflict is required, as the ‘Gita tells us. All I can say is that THEY will find it difficult to overcome millions of real warriors, with right intention, in opposition.
Great article but he left out a whole bunch of things. Like oil and cast iron pots and fire.
@Ian January 17, 2022 at 7:42 pm Your comment brings to mind forcibly Stanley Kubrick’s Spartacus. In posting what follows, I do not mean to imply or say in anyway your excellent comment suggests or implies my personal immediate reaction. Approaching 75 years and counting, I never served as a soldier, I never fought in any war.
Early on having participated in and later observed from the outside looking in such “movements” as led by Brandon Smith of alt-market fame, my take is that any organized, armed, confrontational opposition to forces equipped and directed by The Power$ That Be seems from the outset suicidal and self-defeating.
Rather than “a-massing we shall go”, which to me the estimate of “millions” inspires as a vision, I would consider death to The Power$ That Be more likely to come by millions of cuts. No point in writing much more than that, I figure.
@YukonJack–NowI understand why you have issues with Christianity. I get it now. I thank God what has befallen you has not befallen me and mine (though two loved ones were vaxxed, and one of them regrets i, a health worker no less.) Though I disagree with some of what you post, I too have issues with the Catholic church I was brought up in. Blessings to you.
It is the satanic Jew.It is the synagogue of Satan. There are Jews who call themselves Jews but who in fact are not Jews. And yes they control or own everything. They are pure evil. Luciferian, Satanic Talmudic Jews. There was a reason why they were kicked out of every country on earth.We are living with it.
@waw–the greatest criminal enterprisein history is not the US govt., but the synagogue of Satan (aka Talmudic Jewry) that runs it!
I tried to warn a Phd qualified friend about the vax and was met with “I’m not even going to have this conversation with you”.
Now her partner is dying from the vax and she STILL can’t see it.
Silly cow.
“I tried to warn a PhD qualified friend…”
Well this is the thing. People who chase paper qualifications are seeking the approval of others. When these others may have been virtuous, then these qualifications may have mattered more.
There are a load of people with their heads up their arses with walled certificates, stethoscopes nonchalantly hanging round their necks, and egos massaged by being called “professor”, “Dr” etc etc
A PhD is just someone submitting to the political process of approved science.
Once the Church was where the intelligent people gathered to. Then this became the universities. We are now at the stage where the corruption of universities is as recognisable as the pre reformation Roman Catholic Church. And this corruption might have had something to do with the philanthrocapitalism of the likes of Rockefeller and Carnegie.
The increased presence of women in this culture of “going along to get along” also belies the increasing number fronting for the globalist scum. No debt there is a happy mean between the male and female aspects of a society, but this aspect of overcompliance is a reflection of folks’ over feminised sense of being secure when being truthful – arguably a more masculine quality but not necessarily a male monopoly – is more important.
Reality is conspiracy, they have been for the last 100 no thousands of years, reality has been a conspiracy.
How does one move on? Just move! Onwards! I moved 50 years ago! Goodbye Ma, goodbye Pa, goodbye loved ones with your ol’ he-haw! Let the dead bury the dead, indeed. My dad started getting a bit savvy at about age 91, who made it to 95, rest his soul. Mom, siblings: all clueless. As it says, “A man’s foes shall be they of his own household.”—Mat.10:36 This is not the time to look back, as did Lot’s wife, and boo-hoo over what’s happening. I heard about and quickly acted in 1971 on warnings of the coming Great Confusion, which was issued in 1968; excerpts: “The Author of Confusion is even now marshalling his forces for this Great Confusion … so sudden shall be the Great Confusion that it shall cause a mighty widening of the eyes of those who have not discerned the signs of the times. But be ye not deceived, be prepared, and be ye not deceived by the great societies, for they shall come to travail and then bring forth the Great Confusion. Be prepared. Even now the skies are red, red with warning and black, black with clouds, gathering for the Great Confusion which is almost upon you.” (These words were received by a simple grandmother who daily made sandwiches and passed them out to hippies on the beach in California.)
Avoid the devoid. Your true kinfolk are those who know, believe, declare, live and breathe the TRUTH!
@ Alan Donelson. I agree with you. I’m no longer in the “full flush of youth” either! By “fight” I mean resist in every way possible. It may eventually mean putting your body on the line if it comes to forced jabs, but there are other ways to do it, as you say. Death by a thousand cuts works for me!
@ ANONYMOUS
just to sit back + watch like i will not help .
they will entangle us with all kinds of traps :
like to enter banks,offices,supermarkets only
with vax certificate atleast proof of PCR test.
so when your ID cart or bank card expires you
have to identificate yourself with a valid ID card
or passport but this one also might need a vax
or test . they have a whole arsenal of entanglements .
@ FRED B
ALL this backgrounds we here know the
military should know : THAT THEIR OWN
GENERALS + officers are bribed or free mason
servants to the jews . all what we are here are
doing is for nothing as change can come only
out of guns + take over of all medias + buildings
of government . first they have to kill their
generals + secret service spies !
To Hotel Bastardos–women often want their husband to die–I have seen a lot of those marriages with a sham relationship of goodwill, with the real state of things being quite obvious to an outsider.
I appreciate the honest expressions in the comments above. I too have tried to warn people for years but no-one listened. I see no way out for us, the game is all but lost. I believe that God will intervene, if he doesn’t then his creation is gone and he won’t allow that as we were made for a purpose. I know Yukon Jack strongly disagrees with Christianity but I grew up a Catholic and thought it stupid then and I still do. No Christianity is not in Catholicism so I can agree with him there. Understand this, Christ died to enable us sinners to have the prospect of eternal life. Only he could die for us, no other human being was sinless so his life value in God’s eyes was equal to the first man created – Adam. Before Adam sinned, he was sinless and God made the provision after the Fall to save mankind as Justice is one of his 4 cardinal attributes and mankind only inherited sin from Adam, we didn’t have a choice we are guilty by association not deliberate disobedience. This provision is known as the Ransom sacrifice. If you only learn one thing about the Bible, let it be that. There is hope and a great future awaits any of us willing to embrace it.
@ YUKON JACK
i gave up the stupid people :
stare like a deer in the headlights !
good picture . if i get a litle glimpse
of understanding only with my low
workers class . so higher the intelect
so further away from reality . that until
now they seem to have no problems
probably they dont need to work hard
with their body . think about all over
300 sportlers dead because their heard
had to work hard .
@Lewis Jones Some woman who lived close to us had her husband die. Sitting behind her and her friend in the bus one morning I listened to their conversation. This was about a month after the funeral. All she complained about was that the insurance had not paid out yet.