Israel Shamir – The Unz Review Oct 19, 2021
Rarely has Russia used this sort of language to a top rep of the major Western powers, but she was sorely pushed. Diplomats are usually polite, but Mrs (“F*ck the EU”) Nuland awoke the beast in her Russian counterparts. Probably it was a mistake to insist that she should be the one to deal with the Russians. As a young woman, Victoria Nuland joined the crew of a Russian fishing trawler, and though she no doubt learned many useful words and expletives, she was not prepared for her talk with Mr Sergei Ryabkov, Russia’s Deputy Foreign Minister.
People said she was visibly distressed after her meeting with Ryabkov; she complained she was ill-treated. Well, she took on a hard mission: to force the Russians to trim Russian mission staff in Washington. The Senators demanded they cut the Russian team by 300 diplomats, she said. She brought two lists of names for culling, and proposed that the first fifty be sent home immediately. Instead of considering her kind proposal, Mr Ryabkov said that there aren’t that many Russian diplomats in Washington; there are Russian diplomats at the UN, but that has nothing to do with the US. Ryabkov accused Nuland of being a shell game artist because she tried to pass UN diplomats off as diplomats accredited in Washington. Added Ryabkov:
If you will insist, we are ready to close down all US missions in Russia, and to lock down our remaining offices at Washington. We can terminate all diplomatic interaction; if you want our relations be based on the number of our nuclear missiles, we are ready. But it’s your choice, not ours.
Ryabkov said there was no progress in negotiations; we do not rule out certain escalations, he added. Such a pessimistic press release after the first day of meetings is quite uncommon. But US-Russian relations are uncommonly bad.
Perhaps you’d remember at Geneva Summit there were hopes and expectations of a Grand Slam, of a long-term agreement between the US and Russia. (Our friend Thierry Meyssan called it even A New Yalta and provided lurid details). I didn’t believe it then. I thought I’d get a whisper of such a deal in Moscow or Tel Aviv; and there was no deal. Since Geneva, things didn’t improve much. Nuland didn’t meet with Foreign Minister Lavrov (that would be above her pay grade), but she got a letter from Lavrov explaining that it was impossible to cut the staff, that is unless the US wants to cut it to zero.
The other topics they discussed were also doomed to fail. Mrs Nuland brought up Mali, a North African state where the presence of Russian private military contractors has incited political anger and displeasure. Mali is a part of a whole chain of French ex-colonies. Though they are ostensibly independent, the French still want to keep them. There used to be a solid French military presence; but the Africans got tired of useless French soldiers standing around, and invited the Russians into the Central African Republic, into Mali and elsewhere. Russians enjoy their African adventures; in the Soviet days they fought in Ethiopia and Somalia; now it is time for the sequel. Western media writes of ‘Russian atrocities’, but that is something they have always said. The best soldiers in Africa are Cubans; if they return en masse, they will sweep Africa off its feet. Now the US and its Western allies are trying to keep Russians out of Africa. They tell Russians that they should not dare enter Africa; it is not theirs. But the Russian side responds that the Russian PMC was invited by the government of Mali; neither Bamako, nor Moscow needs a green light from Washington.
Libya was also discussed. It seems that a few American ladies employed by the UN are arranging the forthcoming elections so as to leave the country under American control. There will be Presidential elections in December, and for the legislature in January. Meanwhile the election process has not been working out as well as some Libyans wanted. It is still not clear who has been selected to run for President: will it be Khalifa Haftar, or Seif al Islam Kaddafi, a son of the late leader, or somebody else. The State Department representative expected to get full Russian cooperation while keeping the Russians completely out of oil exploration. This American plan didn’t work out well. Mr Ryabkov said to Mrs Nuland: the US tries to assign guilt over the destruction of Libya to innocent parties. As we know, Libya was destroyed by NATO forces in 2011 while Russia was making another one of its attempts to fit into the Western agenda. However, these days the Russians are less placid and obedient, and not so eager to accept Nuland’s guidance.
Another point was connected with post-Afghanistan arrangements. The Russians refused the US request to extend facilities to their intelligence in Central Asia. It became a problem after the fall of Afghanistan. For a while, the US demanded a temporary military base in Uzbekistan or Tajikistan. It was discussed at Geneva at Biden-Putin summit. In a very typical Russian manner, Putin told Biden: Why do you need a base? Be a guest at our base! Alas, these Russian offers usually mean much less than what they sound like. The US climbed down to a facility for their intelligence; if there is no choice, it could be located at a Russian air base in Central Asia. However, the Russians refused that, too. Tomorrow they will receive Taliban’s delegacy in Moscow, and such intelligence-sharing arrangement would be misconstrued.
Russia took Nuland off its list of sanctioned US officials to allow her to enter Russia; this was the result of a tit-for-tat after the US banned quite a few Russian officials from visiting the US. And although this could do little to help the cases of the other officials, it seems that Mrs Nuland was definitely not the flavour of the month with Russian diplomats. The Foreign Ministry in Moscow was strongly against rescinding the ban, but a powerful if unconstitutional body called Administratsiya Prezidenta insisted on allowing her in. (Here is an interesting short essay explaining its role). More specifically, its Deputy Head Dmitri Kozak lobbied for the unbanning of Nuland; he spoke with her at length and he provided his version of their conversation.
Kozak is an old hand: a native of the Ukraine, a grim-faced KGB/GRU man, Putin’s henchman since early 90’s; he served in a few governments with little noticeable success. He is best remembered by his hare-brained idea of keeping all government deliberations secret from the public. Usually, the Administratsiya Prezidenta keeps out of foreign affairs. Their main occupation is the manipulation of public opinion and election trickery. Now it seems Kozak wants to build up some pro-Western credit in his name, to become an American agent in the power structure. To get Americans to support him at the inevitable mess after Putin day. Or, perhaps, he wants to please Putin by claiming that Russo-American relations are fine. Reality is very different. The relations between the US and Russia are as bad as we can remember; in spite of this Kozak has published a triumphalist communiqué expressing nothing but joy after meeting Mme Nuland.
Just compare the Foreign Ministry’s conclusion: “Ryabkov said he and Nuland made no progress on normalizing the work of their diplomatic missions, which has been hampered by multiple rounds of sanctions, adding that the situation could exacerbate even further. The Russian Foreign Ministry reiterated Moscow’s readiness to respond in kind to any unfriendly U.S. action” and Kozak’s conclusion: “a thorough and constructive dialogue took place regarding the settlement of the conflict in the south-east of Ukraine. They confirmed that the Minsk agreements remain the only basis for a settlement. Nuland admitted that progress on the Donbass issue is possible only with the recognition of its special status.”
Kozak prepared himself for playing the American fiddle years ago. After a coup in Moldova in 2019, Kozak said: “In the current situation, Russia, the European Union and the United States have taken a common position to support the democratic process in Moldova”. “This is a vivid example that on basic values we have more in common than disagreements,” added Dmitry Kozak. This is the same attitude that caused Russia to surrender Libya, the same attitude that brought the USSR to collapse. These old KGB blokes are keen on fitting into the Western narrative, and for such a purpose they will always shortchange their employers.
A few months ago, when the US began advanced planning for accepting the Ukraine and Georgia into NATO, Kozak sounded the trumpet. He said the Ukraine is entitled to join NATO. This a shocking claim; Putin was always against it. The presence of NATO tanks in Eastern Ukraine is as big a danger for Russia as Russian tanks in Texas would be for the US. Russia always considered NATO in the Ukraine almost casus belli; now Mr Kozak doesn’t mind it. What is even more odd, Kozak agreed with the US joining the Normandy Format (Russia, France, Germany and the Ukraine); France and Germany were always against it, and Russia, too, was strongly against it. Did Kozak discuss it with France and Germany (doubtful) or did he just shoot his mouth off trying to please Nuland? Apparently, the Russians at the top speak in different voices; one is the voice of Foreign Ministry, another is the voice of the Administratsiya Prezidenta. But who decides?
As time goes by, pro-US voices in the Russian power structure generally lose their volume and appeal. People like Kozak want to fit themselves into the Western agenda, but the people who are in charge of foreign affairs, gas, oil, nuclear power and weapons are aware of more urgent needs. Right after Victoria Nuland’s departure, US-Russian relations quickly got worse. The NATO head office in Brussels declared a few Russian diplomats ‘personas non grata’, and in response, the Russian Foreign Ministry sent home all NATO representatives in Russia. At the same time, the US began their campaign for taking Ukraine and Georgia into NATO.
I am as much for friendship between the US and the Russian people as you are, but historically speaking, our best way to friendship is Cold War. “Good fences make good neighbours.” We are already so dangerously close to ‘one world government’ that only fiercely independent nationalistic antagonism and hostility can save us from global dictatorship. If the relations were to improve, Mr Kozak and suchlike would sacrifice ordinary Russians on the altar of their Common Values with the US and EU. Only bad relations can hold back the Green New Deal and give us a chance to survive.
With the assistance of Paul Bennett.
Israel Shamir can be reached at adam@israelshamir.net
This article was first published at The Unz Review.



“Good fences make good neighbours”, and that is also why Brexit, and any other exits from the EU, are good. We need the worst possible relations between nations and the likes of Macron and Merkel.
Look, recent meeting between Chinese and US military was terse, bordering on a shouting match. In reality, neither side wants an agreement. Between Russia and the US, Amerika expects Russia to acquiesce to US dominance.
The big problem for US sheeple who find themselves in important diplomatic positions is that they are usually amateurs & they go up against seriously clever trained diplomats from China and Russia. Just look at Boris’s period as Foreign Secretary. The entire diplomatic world, including UK diplomats were either laughing at him, or hanging their heads in shame.
Even VP Harris, has been a total failure on foreign trips. Both the US & UK treats the rest of the world as if they are Muppets… look in the mirror.
An additional danger is this US culture of ‘exceptionalism’, there’s nothing exceptional about the US. Amerika had maybe 25 years, between 1950 & 1975, where they could make a claim to be rightfully No1. I don’t think the Chinese or Russians take Nuland seriously. Decent diplomats would never of allowed these fractures to widen as the have, because they are almost impossible to repair one side has a dysfunctional global ideology which most of the world doesn’t and is willing to say ‘No more’. Why should the worlds hard working sheeple pay the US a cut every time someone buys US dollars to do a deal?
As a foot note: Putin did say he would supply all the gas (and oil) that Europe needs, but it doesn’t look like Russia will increase supplies, & there’s a good reason for this. It is the US and other client states who have cut gas supplies to Europe by 14%. Why would Russia cover this, when at the drop of a hat, Europe starts buying US gas when they can, the moment the US decides to sell it to Europe. The US is bankrupt, the UK is bankrupt, so pain in the UK is fine when Putin carries the can. Boris has his green wet dream, all supported by the UK deep state who doesn’t want the UK taking 18% of its gas from Russia. Most UK homes simply don’t have the space to accommodate heat-pumps & most homes can’t be insulated to the level where heat-pumps can cope. Effectively, Boris is now going to devalue homes that can’t be modified. I would say that well over 80% of UK housing stock will need to be demolished, if the current policy stands.Take a typical old North of UK stone house, it already has small poky rooms. These rooms will need to moisture barrier lined,, at least 100mm of insulation and then a new interior wall. Every exterior wall will need this and some more. Poky UK houses can’t take in, we have the smallest pokiest homes in Europe… but daft Boris has never been in your typical 120yr old rabbit hutch. Cognative disonance springs to mind, & yes, Nuland and insulation are directly linked.
Lewis Jones: spoken like a true Brit, & why neighbours are lifting curtains, making excessive noise, complaining about sheeple parking legally on residential roads because their house is their castle and no one should be within eyesight of the the attic window. In the wider context, also known as the ‘little Englanders’. There’s no hope for these narrow minded islands, & it is the fact that we are an island group that gives us this collective mental illness. Same thing with village mentality, & its got worse since Brexit & Covid, now we have countries, regions and even counties hating on each other. Japan is a similar case.
Have no fear, as soon as the crash comes Nationalism is going to explode.
World government is a euphemism for Jewish control and concentration of wealth into Jewish hands.
As soon as the world economy implodes, as it must from the hundreds of trillions of debts, there will be extreme resurgence of self interest and this (mostly fake) support for the globo homos (homosexual Jew run globalism – think Pete Buttegg as a model political operative who is now on maternity leave) will end like a door slamming shut.
All Jew run governments are now committing suicide with:
1. excessive debt, moneys spent on unproductive consumer crap
2. transgender and globo homo politics – putting perverts in charge of decent people
3. unlimited mudbrid immigration – stuffing white nation states to the gills with uneducated and violent rejects from subsaharan shitholes
4. teaching masturbation and homosexual anal sex to kindergartners
5. prosecuting whites for exercising self defense while allowing blacks and mudbrids to go on a raping looting meelee
6. massive wealth dislocation from zero percent interest rates – which has caused real estate hyperinflation above worker wages – ordinary working stiffs can no longer afford home prices
It is all going to come crashing down – and the response by the jew monsters will be to spend more deficit financed money – money they don’t have but want to borrow from unborn future slaves, which is completely immoral but normal for Jews who have no morals.
This abuse of money by Jews like Trumpenstein, O’Biden, Pelousi and Upchuck Schumer is a high crime and completely irrational – and the Jew media will not allow reasonable voices to argue against such ruinacious policies. Since they won’t stop this money printing madness, only crypto and interest rates can stop them now – so that means in the near future huge shocks are coming to the financial markets as bonds will be marked down to reflect default risk.
Conservatives need to know that Trump is a no good deficit spender just like O’Biden. Trump also pushes the vaccine, he is controlled opposition, a fake, a no good liar, and a lowlife Zionist scumbag like the rest of them. No one has any right to spend money they don’t have.
What we need is sound money and a balanced budget, and end to foreign wars and a huge restructuring of the top down defense run economy. The Pentacon blew 21 trillion on defense contracts since 9-11-2001 and what did they get for it? A piece of crap F-35 joint strike fighter designed by bureaucrats, and superior at nothing.
All these crazy government policies are in lockstep with one another, someone (like Wrathchild) is above all dictating to their whores to implement whatever destructive policy they want. This is coming to a screeching halt as nation state nationalists are going to see the destructive course and start implementing extreme nationalistic policies like A.H. did. And that includes rounding up the the Jew destroyers.
Russians have,nt forgotten it was this P O S nuland that bought about the coup in
Ukraine and the terrorism at Maidan
Don’t worry about it, its all a staged show managed by the Zionist Cryptocrats, who covertly control all these ‘nations’ of the world. Since 1945, you’ve been living in a one world government & you don’t even know it yet…
Nuland is a Talmudic Ashkenazi Bolshevik Communist Khazar Satanist. That is all that needs to be said. Her husband is even worse, if that is possible. That this Satanist is back at the US Dept of State is a national disgrace. If you can not figure out that Khazar Satanists seized control of the US government on 3 Nov 2020, you are an idiot.
This article does not mention Nuland’s husband Robert Kagan, convenientily left out by the writer who’s first name is ‘Israel’ LOLROFL (Just more controlled opposition that is lapped up by this website and so many happy Goy Jewdeo Christards)
Seriously this article is just more Jewish spin,
Robert Kagan is a Republican Neocon ARCH ZIONIST WARMONGER
married to
Victoria Nuland is a Liberal Democrat ARCH ZIONIST WARMONGER
Both of these radical supremacist Jews were architects of 9-11-2001
Both of these opposame Jews were intergal to the War of Terror waged in the Middle East and Ukraine
Both of these bloodthirsty Jew hellions hate Russia because the Jews do not control Russia.
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Robert Kagan
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Robert Kagan (/ˈkeɪɡən/; born September 26, 1958) is an American neoconservative[1][2] scholar and critic of U.S. foreign policy and a leading advocate of liberal interventionism.[3]
A co-founder of the neoconservative Project for the New American Century,[4][5][6] he is a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.[7] Kagan has been a foreign policy adviser to U.S. Republican presidential candidates as well as Democratic administrations via the Foreign Affairs Policy Board. He writes a monthly column on world affairs for The Washington Post. During the 2016 U.S. presidential election campaign, Kagan left the Republican Party due to the party’s nomination of Donald Trump and endorsed the Democratic candidate, Hillary Clinton, for president.
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https://www.rt.com/russia/535096-victoria-nuland-kremlin-talks/
Victoria Nuland, key JEWmerican figure in Ukraine’s bloody 2014 ‘Maidan,’ wants meeting with Moscow despite visa ban – Kommersant
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https://truthout.org/articles/the-ukraine-mess-that-nuland-made/
Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs “Toria” Nuland was the “mastermind” behind the Feb. 22, 2014 “regime change” in Ukraine, plotting the overthrow of the democratically elected government of President Viktor Yanukovych while convincing the ever-gullible US mainstream media that the coup wasn’t really a coup but a victory for “democracy.”
All us presidents except one, were jews.