Christians Respond to Eckhart Tolle Challenge
by tts-admin | Sep 29, 2019 |
henrymakow.com – Sept 28, 2019
Martis writes:
Read what you wrote and watched the video but Eckhart was way off base. His thinking was centered on man`s efforts to find inner peace instead of the Holy Spirit, which by the way he didn`t even touch on. The Holy Spirit is God`s guide to inner peace, guide to repentance, and the way to be closer to God. When Jesus Christ said “Repent for the kingdom of Heaven is at hand He was talking about His messianic kingdom. I watched this video twice and found no connection to true Christianity at all.
Jim C writes-
Thank you for posting Eckhart Tolle’s video. Quite thought-provoking to anyone who believes they have found the Truth of the Matter. If those who responded to your invitation believe they have arrived, I would caution them. They haven’t. No one really knows what Yahshua of Nazareth taught to the Galatians who listened to him as depicted in the New Testament of the Bible. If what is close to being accurate as found in the Book of Matthew, his message was rather simple. Obey the rules of the Creator who created Heaven and Earth and be righteous, do the right thing to everyone. Be truthful. Live the truth. It’s pretty well summed up in the Ten Commandments. Unfortunately, the Christian religion has thrown these rules “under the bus.” Modern men and women who have adopted this pagan religion No longer live their lives by them. For them, anything goes. Jesus will forgive them every day so their conscious is clear to break the rules Anytime and anywhere. Well, this man Yahshua wasn’t a God-man, even though the Christian religion says he was. And he didn’t die for their sins. For those readers who disagree look it up. Study the history of the Christian church, if you dare. Thanks again for the “hot potato.”
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I asked Christians to help me understand how Tolle contradicts Christianity.
Henry Makow has ignored my response to Eckhart Tolle.
Here is the link to my response: https://bit.ly/2yoWgjd
Duke
The faithful witness
If you believe in something or anything you have accepted the word of another without having direct knowledge of the subject you believe in, therefore you are open to being conned or tricked into unknown agendas and the good faith you have miss used by some one who desires to control others.
Belief is not knowledge it never has been belief is just belief
Mick K
The youtube video in question is “The Essence of Mindfulness & ALL Spirituality | Eckhart Tolle | Rubin Report” starts off with Dave Rubin (Jew) stating the impressive sales figures for ‘The Power of Now’ and ‘The New Earth’. (No doubt the Jew Rubin is most anxious to get in on this gravy train, lol) So right off the bat the viewer is led to believe Tolle’s message must be valid because the economic gains are great.
This is the first metaphysical mistake of this video – economic success means spiritual truth. This is how the Jew thinks and you might want to be skeptical that just because a book sells it means that it is true spirituality. You should judge Tolle’s message on your own experience and not on sales figures and economic success. In marketing they call this the bandwagon effect – “a term coined to refer to the behavior of a consumer following a trend that is created by the need or want of the mass populous”.
At the 23:20 into the interview, Bible dupe Eckhart Tolle talks about the meaning of what Jesus said “the kingdom of heaven is at hand” when he went from village to village. Joseph Atwill has patiently explained to us in ‘Caesar’s Messiah’ that the tale of Jesus is actually the (encoded) military campaign of Titus. Jesus never said anything because he is a fictional character, and apparently Eckhart Tolle doesn’t know that.
Then Tolle correctly points out that Christians believe the (external) kingdom of heaven is to come in the future, and Tolle says correctly the kingdom of heaven is within you – meaning it is not external. BTW Evangelical Christians believe to this day that the “Kingdom of Heaven” comes when Jesus comes back and sets up a physical religious kingdom (of Jewish tyranny) on earth. (Which they are manifesting in the present moment)
Tolle then explains his version of this kingdom of heaven as a “dimension” – a dimensional change of your inner reality, he states the core of his belief system as “inner spaciousness” as being “alert, and still, and conscious without thinking” and then makes the claim that is “the essence of Jesus thinking”. Makow’s article is for you to decide what you think about that.
The first comment is “Marti writes:
Read what you wrote and watched the video but Eckhart was way off base. His thinking was centered on man`s efforts to find inner peace instead of the Holy Spirit, which by the way he didn`t even touch on. The Holy Spirit is God`s guide to inner peace, guide to repentance, and the way to be closer to God. When Jesus Christ said “Repent for the kingdom of Heaven is at hand He was talking about His messianic kingdom. I watched this video twice and found no connection to true Christianity at all. ”
The religious and dogmatic reaction is that is not what the Bible says, the path to inner peace is the Holy Spirit and that Jesus is talking about the physical and political messianic kingdom (which is total earth rule by the Jews from Jerusalem) and no connection to “true Christianity at all”.
The Holy Bible is not holy and not about God, it is about Jewish control and supremacy. Marti correctly states what the Bible says which is not what Tolle says. Tolle incorrectly thinks Jesus said something when he didn’t exist, the Bible writer Josephus, using the avatar of Jesus, is making claims about the kingdom of heaven on earth which is about Rome extending peace to the Judean tribes in Judea at the time. Tolle got that wrong also. If you read Atwill he explains in detail what Rome was doing with the Gospels.
I say Tolle is not a very good prophet but just another New Age guru respinning the Bible for the suffering masses who are stuck in ego judgmental consciousness. The only thing that I have come across that makes sense of human condition and why humans are so messed up is the ancient alien intervention theory, Humans are poorly designed genetically engineered slave race, a crossbreed of Homo Erectus and Anunnaki – wild hominids with big brains and thus suffering the thinking mind.
People can be misled by blind-belief, this is nothing new; but people can also be misled by facts too. Truths or half-truths, “Facts are enemies of truth”! Indeed The entire truth can be concealed under each of its parts. You can touch each part of an elephant individually and not discover that this is an elephant until you actually see it from a good distance away! if you are too close you see things from a micro perspective, if you go far you see from strategic view. Now consider the elusive electron! Is it a Wave/Cloud or a Particle? Perhaps just as you look at it, it is there but when you look away it is all around! So “knowledge” is actually not a very clear concept. Think about it, it has no life of its own… compare with “seeing/witnessing” and “believing” which are both moving and motivating. Consider the following example:
– I can see it is raining! I can feel it with my skin too.
– I know it’s raining.
– I believe it is raining.
In each case just ask how? How do you know? How you do see? How do you believe? As you see all three become one thing… I “see/know/believe” with my eyes! This trinity of knowledge/belief/seeing is perhaps an illusion. I don’t want to get into definitions and concepts… one may easily get lost!
Blind-belief is not inherently evil and bad, don’t let half-truths mislead you, it is easily possible to consider conditions/contexts in which “blindly” believing something or someone is actually a rational position! We do it all the time without noticing. You trust your doctor because two of your friends vouch for him and there is a qualification document on the wall! If he tells you to go and take such and such medications, you don’t question, after all if you doubt him you have to go and study medicine for years by which time your illness probably has killed you already! We must follow a lead in every field, yet in politics and religion, suddenly we are capable on our own without years of training and studying. We are told to not accept any authority” is these cases, yet Satan has brought most people under his own authority! People are told to seek “freedom” rather than “power”! I think if we fix language and concepts and use each concept/term in its correct context, we can advance in every way exponentially! Satan’s main weapon is language and I’m not talking about translations… but we have problems in our own mother languages! Satan has had a very long time to plan it out and hide truth under meaningless words! Did you know in Quran there is not even one single time mention of the word Mind (ذهن) or any of its derivatives? But there are four different words for different layers of human hear, each associated with different attributes!? Probably more than 90% of Muslims don’t know it or have not noticed it or payed attention to it. They have just touched each part separately!
To sum up…. belief, seeing and knowledge are the same thing looked at from different perspectives. Not sure why “believe” in English language doesn’t hold as much weight as its counterpart equivalent in our language which is actually superior to knowledge and includes it too. You can’t believe God if you don’t see him or his effects…and this seeing is done with 3rd and 4th layers of heart (not the fleshy organ though!) after they are trained and not distracted as usual!
Henry, is someone suggesting here that Christianity was just another Jewish conspiracy whereby the gospels were fabricated by some little committee of Sanhedrin scholars 2000 years ago, putting select lines and teachings from their many scriptural writings into the mouth of a fictitious man? If so where is the historical evidence of any such a group?
Or was it an early Christian committee or group who wrote the gospels and started things off with such a bang by putting such a unified selection of writings into the mouth of a fictitious person. If so then why was not this said by the huge body of opponents? The opponents were the Jewish and Roman establishments of the time, and all their people did was to attack the resurrection by alleging that Christians stole the body from the tomb. No one in power at the time and after alleged Jesus did not exist or say or he did not say what he said despite the scriptural sources.
And why should not such a specific, new, and unique interpretation of all the major writings of Hebrew scripture come from one man? All the evidence points that way. It doesn’t seem to be like anything coming from any committee to advance Judaism, much less something which could arise from the Jewish establishment at the time. Nor, could it be such that through the fisherman and non-academic standings of his first followers there could be such fabrication. Obviously, the scriptural extractions in addition to all of the parables came from one person in his preachings and they are a in fact a very unique interpretation of what the history of Jewish people actually meant, not found with any other sect of the time. He also said that he was the son of God and the promised Messiah and if did not not say that himself, it is most unlikely he would have had any following to survive his death.
More than likely any establishment committee which was struck at the time had this to say: “We trusted God, patiently waiting all this time, going from one exile and dispersion to the next, and he sends us this guy as his Messiah? And then this fake has the audacity to say he is his only son, and it is only through him that anyone can enter some other kind of promised land that this one? Many people are already beginning to follow him and his crap about some mysterious kingdom. Give me a break! This guy has to go.” John C above seems to be saying the same thing.
Saint Paul in our view undoubtedly was a Jewish infiltrator. He introduced many things into Christianity.
Jesus (س) was against Rabbis who were too much concerned with the form and face rather than the essence. They would give religious decree on whether a Chicken egg laid on Saturday is OK or not in their septs; they would argue whether a bowl is in the state of ceremonial purity or impurity, yet they would not deal with usury and corruption!
Many Jews were becoming Christians, but Rabbis and “ISIS” Jews would massacre them. Finally one day they sent Inquisitor Shawol שאול התרס one of the Rabbis on an infiltration mission, he already had killed many convert Christian-Jews by his own hand! It is said that he had a dream in which God/Jesus spoke to him and so he repented and became a Devout Christian afterwards! He also had studied Hellenism in Rome, the introduction of SUN god and other alien concepts into Christianity can be attributed to him. So Rabbi Shawl who now becomes Saint Paul, in order to prevent Jews becoming Christian, did a few important changes on core issues:
1- Trinity (Father, Son, Holy Spirit)
2- Circumcision not mandatory
3- Eating pork OK!
So Jews would say “Oh Christians are not Monotheists! They don’t keep God’s covenant by circumcising and they eat pork! This Jesus can’t be our promised leader.”
As Jesus (س) used to accuse Rabbis of being only concerned with surface and appearance and not paying attention to the essence of religion, so Paul too took it to a whole new level! For instance he said: “The True Church is inside every Christian!”… Laying the foundation for gradual but total infiltration of Church!
He also expanded on crucifixion of Jesus (س). We believe Jesus went into a long hiding through divine intervention. Just think about it…. they would kill heretics and disbelievers by putting them on the cross… Why would God allow his prophet to die in such a way? This would only further help Jews not becoming Christians, because they would say if he was prophet of God he wouldn’t die a disbeliever’s death!
Now Muslims respect Jesus (س), sure we don’t say he is God but he was very important prophet of God and we also respect his Mother the Virgin Mary, it is in Quran. Yet Many Christians still think Jews are closer to them… sure if they compare the ISIS and Saudis who have been also infiltrated by Bad Jews too! We have good Jews too like the Neturi Karta Jews who are anti-Zionist. You should also know that the Mahdi the 12th Imam and promised one who is currently in the hiding similar to Jesus through divine intervention (They were going to kill him too) had a Christian Mother and not just any Christian but granddaughter of the Roman Emperor of the time!
Princess of Rome (Melika) – Animation
https://img9.irna.ir/old/Image/1395/13950624/82229890/N82229890-71016716.jpg
Lady Narjis Khatoon, mother of Imam Mahdi (A) (story)
https://islamplus.net/article/Article/109
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narjis
Mr. Muslim above is very adept in the art of taqiyya which is the Islam right and duty under Sharia law to lie to those they consider infidels.
In a religion where they proclaim the right to behead all infidels and kill all apostates, and in which they essentially converted large areas of the Asia, the Middle East and North Africa by fear and the sword, they simply cannot be said to have any regard for freedom of choice in religious matters, or for people trying to discern the truth through reason or revelation for anything outside of their narrow focus. Exactly why every Muslim nation is so backward. If you cannot trust your life and freedom to them, then how can you trust them to tell the truth about anything really important.
This said, what Islam in fact is missing is Christ, the Logos, who is the Truth and through whom all things were made, visible and invisible, and the fact that it was the Semite people in the line of Jacob (Jews) and not Esau through which the Logos, the Son of God, was incarnate. That is essentially what St. Paul taught after his conversion. It was his realization that the very belief he was persecuting was the actual truth. He believed his mission came directly from God. When you understand all he actually did in teaching the early Christian communities which had sprung up all around the Roman empire, you have to admit he was in the very least inspired. if you read his epistles which were sent far and wide throughout his many trials and travels, you will see that he dealt with all of the suspicions our Muslim friend has uttered about him some kind of Jewish agent to distort the Christian faith. He actually elucidated the faith at the time when the life and sayings of Jesus were mostly in oral form and the gospels as we know them were being compiled. When confronted with his past as a Christian persecutor, he would quickly dispel any suspicions by demonstrating his many scars from the floggings he received from the Jews for his conversion, and ask why he would give up all the honors and positions he was entitled to with the Jews in spreading Christianity if he was still Jewish or an agent. Apart from all of his sufferings and ordeals over the many years of his ministry, he also knew what was in store for him in travelling to Rome to spread the faith, and he suck by it making no deals until the Romans beheaded him. Read the epistles and you will find authenticity, truth.
“taqiyya” as you put it … is to lie or not tell the truth about your beliefs when your life is in danger… for example when an ISIS Zombie is asking “are you a Shiite? Obviously he is going to behead you and your family so you say no way I am not! It is a very easy concept. Nowadays Iran has been strengthened and there is no need to use Taqqyia, we openly say where we stand and what we think, even at UN!
You can sure love Saint Paul as you see fit, but in the next life you’ll know that one Shiite Iranian warned you! People in the hereafter will be judged first in groups and then individually. You’ll be in the Paul group!
Just know that Jews make fun of Virgin Mary and Jesus… we respect them!