{"id":76906,"date":"2013-08-08T15:47:44","date_gmt":"2013-08-08T15:47:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=76906"},"modified":"2013-08-12T08:46:19","modified_gmt":"2013-08-12T08:46:19","slug":"fry-up","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=76906","title":{"rendered":"Fry Up"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal<\/w:View> <w:Zoom>0<\/w:Zoom> <w:DoNotOptimizeForBrowser \/> <\/w:WordDocument> <\/xml><![endif]--><\/p>\n<h1 class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: center;\">Gilad Atzmon &#8212; gilad.co.uk August 8, 2013<\/h1>\n<h5><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/Stephen-Fry.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-76909\" title=\"Stephen Fry\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/Stephen-Fry-300x237.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"237\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/Stephen-Fry-300x237.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/Stephen-Fry.jpg 324w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>In my latest book <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Wandering-Who-Gilad-Atzmon\/dp\/1846948754\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1315251947&amp;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ffff00;\">The Wandering<span style=\"color: #ffff00;\"> <\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #ffff00;\">Who<\/span><\/a>, I explore the ideological, spiritual and political continuum between <a href=\"http:\/\/www.counterpunch.org\/2005\/01\/22\/zionism-and-other-marginal-thoughts\/\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ffff00;\">Jewish identity politics and gay<\/span> <span style=\"color: #ffff00;\">theory<\/span><\/a>. Yesterday, Stephen Fry, a British gay Jewish playwright and celebrity, provided us with an opportunity to review the tight political and spiritual affinity between Jewish identity politics and the LGBT call.<\/h5>\n<h5>In An<span style=\"color: #ffff00;\"> <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.stephenfry.com\/2013\/08\/07\/an-open-letter-to-david-cameron-and-the-ioc\/single-page\/\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ffff00;\">Open<\/span> <span style=\"color: #ffff00;\">Letter<\/span><\/a> to PM David Cameron and the International Olympic Committee, Fry equated Putin\u2019s anti gay policy with Hitler\u2019s Jewish hatred. \u00a0Fry\u2019s argument deserves some attention.<\/h5>\n<h5>Hitler, says Fry \u201cbanned Jews from academic tenure or public office, he made sure that the police turned a blind eye to any beatings, thefts or humiliations afflicted on them, he burned and banned books written by them. He claimed they \u2018polluted\u2019 the purity and tradition of what it was to be German\u2026\u201d<\/h5>\n<h5>According to Fry, \u201cPutin is eerily repeating this insane crime, only this time against LGBT Russians. Beatings, murders and humiliations are ignored by the police. Any defence or sane discussion of homosexuality is against the law.\u201c<\/h5>\n<h5>Historical analogies are dangerous territory, especially when the necessary and even elementary scholarship is lacking. Needless to say that I oppose any form of abuse of human right against Jews, LGBTs, Palestinians or anyone else. However, I also oppose the emerging lame culture of sound bites and empty slogans in which Fry is, unfortunately, a leading exponent.<\/h5>\n<h5>Fry, for the obvious reasons, avoids the most necessary question &#8211; what is it that led to the dreadful treatment of Jews in the 3rd Reich? \u00a0Far from being surprising, he also avoids a similar question when it comes to Putin\u2019s antagonism towards LGBT. And in fact, if we really want to fight oppression, these are the most crucial questions to ask and tackle. \u00a0I would argue that the difference between holocaust scholarship and proper history is that holocaust studies are mainly concerned with the study of the suffering (itself) while history attempts to grasp the events that brought the suffering into existence.<\/h5>\n<h5>The Jews who want to prevent Jewish future suffering must look closely into the repeated circumstances that made Jewish history into a chain of Shoas. They should read <span class=\"x-archive-meta-description\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Antisemitism-History-Causes-Bernard-Lazare\/dp\/080327954X\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ffff00;\">Bernard Lazare\u2019s \u2018Anti-Semitism, <\/span><span style=\"color: #ffff00;\">It&#8217;s History and Causes\u2019<\/span><\/a> instead of reading Anne Frank or the Jewish Chronicle.<\/span> <span class=\"x-archive-meta-description\"> Similarly, gay theoreticians should examine critically what is it exactly that the Russians oppose in the LGBT discourse. Is it possible that the Putin regards LGBT as a form of crude Western intervention?<\/span> Maybe Stephen Fry should answer this question before he is lobbying again for an international boycott.<\/h5>\n<h5><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/Judea-declares-war-on-germany.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-25845\" title=\"Daily Express: 'Judea Declares War On Germany'. Click to enlarge\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/Judea-declares-war-on-germany-300x216.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"216\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/Judea-declares-war-on-germany-300x216.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/Judea-declares-war-on-germany.jpg 809w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>If Fry is truly interested in historical analogies, surely he can detect a similarity between his own call to boycott Russia and the famous 1933 Judea call for war against Germany.<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gilad.co.uk\/writings\/fry-up.html#_ftn1\" target=\"_blank\">[<span style=\"color: #ffff00;\">1<\/span>]<\/a><\/h5>\n<h5>I am not impressed with Fry\u2019s historical analogy but may I suggest to the playwright that more than a few historians actually connect between the 1933 Jewish call for boycott against Germany and the Jewish suffering to follow. I am pretty sure that Fry wouldn\u2019t like to be associated as a catalyst in any future suffering of the Russian LGBTs.<\/h5>\n<h5>Zionists tend to compare their enemies with Hitler &#8211; Saddam Hussein, <span class=\"st\">Mahmoud<\/span><em> Ahmadinejad<\/em> and Yassir Arafat all ended up equated with Hitler. \u00a0Fry, the humanist celebrity activist is doing exactly the same to Putin. \u201cHe (Putin) is making scapegoats of gay people, just as Hitler did Jews.\u201d\u00a0\u00a0 Is it a coincidence that Fry is using the exact Hasbara tactics?<\/h5>\n<h5>Many agree that Putin\u2019s anti gay policy is problematic and inacceptable; yet, it is the exact Western interventionist philosophy that Fry exhibits in his call for boycott, that actually fuels Russian intolerance and leads to such policy.<\/h5>\n<h5>Fry says about himself\u00a0 \u201cI am gay. I am a Jew. My mother lost over a dozen of her family to Hitler&#8217;s anti-Semitism. Every time in Russia a gay teenager is forced into suicide, a lesbian \u2018correctively\u2019 raped, \u2026the world is diminished and I for one, weep anew at seeing history repeat itself.\u201d I feel for Fry and respect his concern, yet I wonder whether Fry also weeps at Bernard Henri Levy\u2019s call for moral interventionist wars\u00a0 \u2018as a Jew\u2019; When Wolfowitz \u2018liberated\u2019 the Iraqi people (as a Ziocon). How does Mr Fry feel when he learns about the repeated crimes committed by the Jewish State in his name? How does he feel when his own people are raping the Palestinian soil, hearts and minds?<\/h5>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gilad.co.uk\/writings\/fry-up.html#_ftnref1\" target=\"_blank\">[1]<\/a> <span style=\"color: #ffff00;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jewish_boycott_of_German_goods\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ffff00;\">http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jewish_boycott_of_German_<\/span><span style=\"color: #ffff00;\">goods<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<h5 class=\"MsoNormal\">The Wandering Who? A Study Of Jewish Identity Politics, available on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Wandering-Who-Gilad-Atzmon\/dp\/1846948754\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1312891740&amp;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ffff00;\">Amazon.<\/span><span style=\"color: #ffff00;\">com<\/span> <\/a>&amp; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.co.uk\/Wandering-Who-Jewish-Identity-Politics\/dp\/1846948754\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1312891884&amp;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ffff00;\">Amazon.co<\/span><span style=\"color: #ffff00;\">.uk<\/span><\/a><\/h5>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gilad.co.uk\/writings\/fry-up.html\">Source <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Stephen Fry, a British gay Jewish playwright and celebrity, has provided us with an opportunity to review the tight political and spiritual affinity between Jewish identity politics and the Lesbian-Gay-Bisexual-Transgender call<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":109,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[61,37],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-76906","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-Commentary","category-Israel_Anti-Semitism_Zionism_and_US-UK_allies"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/76906","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/109"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=76906"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/76906\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":77141,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/76906\/revisions\/77141"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=76906"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=76906"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=76906"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}