{"id":50757,"date":"2012-06-17T08:49:50","date_gmt":"2012-06-17T08:49:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=50757"},"modified":"2012-06-22T08:11:44","modified_gmt":"2012-06-22T08:11:44","slug":"when-the-power-grid-goes-down-all-grid-tie-solar-systems-will-go-down-with-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=50757","title":{"rendered":"When the power grid goes down, all grid-tie solar systems will go down with it"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\">Mike Adams \u2013 Natural News June 16, 2012<\/h1>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">A lot of people believe they are becoming &#8220;power independent&#8221; by installing grid-tie solar systems, but what many don&#8217;t realize is that virtually all such systems are designed to actively go offline when the power grid goes offline.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">A &#8220;grid-tie&#8221; solar system is one that ties into the power grid, pulling electricity from the grid when needed, then pushing excess electricity back into the grid when the local customer isn&#8217;t using the full capacity being generated by PV panels (photovoltaic). As long as the grid stays up, it&#8217;s a clever solution because it reduces or even eliminates the customer&#8217;s electric bills while generating &#8220;clean&#8221; energy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Because of the very fact that these systems are tied into the power grid, however, they all have a safety feature that disconnects them from the grid when the grid goes down. In other words, if the power grid goes offline, <strong>your entire grid-tie solar array becomes instantly useless<\/strong> and you can&#8217;t power a laptop computer even if you have $100,000 worth of solar panels sitting on your roof. In a grid-tie system, they all are instantly shut off.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Let me be clear, because some people reading this article seem to vastly misunderstand the issue: <strong>When the power grid goes down, your entire PV array is instantly disabled by your grid-tie inverters<\/strong>, and you <em>cannot<\/em> use your PV array for anything! Even if the sun is shining, you will have no power from it, period. Understand?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Some early comments to this story suggested that people could simply install a throw switch that would divert the PV array to local use only. <strong>This is NOT allowed by local electrical code!<\/strong> Such a system is very difficult to engineer in a safe manner and would almost certainly violate local codes in nearly all U.S. cities. It simply will NOT pass inspection and will not be allowed in most areas. I spoke with top solar consultants to confirm this. At best, such a system would exist in a &#8220;grey area&#8221; of regulatory approval, I was told.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Again, most people reading this story still do not understand what I&#8217;m saying here, and I&#8217;ve backed this up with conversations with top solar experts and equipment providers around the world. When the power grid goes down, virtually all grid-tie systems go down with it. <strong>Your solar panels are instantly rendered useless<\/strong> and cannot be used until the city power grid is restored.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">It&#8217;s a &#8220;safety&#8221; feature<\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Four out of five people reading this will not believe this information because it is so counter-intuitive. I spoke with architects and engineers who didn&#8217;t even know this information. They were all proven wrong. If you install a grid-tie solar system, <strong>the entire system is immediately useless when the grid goes down<\/strong>. You will have zero power, even if the sun is shining. Your solar array only functions when grid power is up, get it? That&#8217;s the way grid-tie systems are hard-wired. <strong>There is no BYPASS function.<\/strong> Grid down = solar array down, period.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">What&#8217;s the reason behind all this? Because if the main power grid is down, the assumption is that a power line worker may be working on the line somewhere. If a local solar customer is feeding electricity back up the line, that can be dangerous &#8212; even deadly &#8212; to a power line worker. Thus, all grid-tie solar equipment sold today includes the &#8220;safety feature&#8221; of automatically shutting down when the grid goes down.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Or at least that&#8217;s the official explanation from the solar power companies, because there&#8217;s no explanation as to why these inverters have to shut off the <em>local<\/em> supply of power from the PV panels. Why not let the homeowner continue to have electricity from their own solar panels even if the power grid is down?<\/span><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">Off-grid systems<\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">&#8220;Off-grid&#8221; systems allow precisely that. These systems, which do not tie into the power grid, run on a combination of solar panels, batteries and often a backup generator running on gasoline, diesel or propane.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Off-grid systems are ridiculously expensive to own and operate, mostly due to the cost of batteries. Today&#8217;s battery technology remains stuck in the 1800&#8217;s, meaning that even so-called &#8220;deep cycle&#8221; batteries will still last only 5 &#8211; 10 years. If you do the math on the cost of batteries for a typical off-grid system running a household of four people, you&#8217;ll come to the surprising figure that <strong>batteries alone can cost you $500 \/ month<\/strong>, each and every month that you use an off-grid system (that&#8217;s the total cost of the batteries divided by the number of months they will last).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">That&#8217;s why most people don&#8217;t go with off-grid systems. Grid-tie systems cost significantly less, especially with solar panels now at rock-bottom prices thanks to China dumping them onto the U.S. market below manufacturing cost. (Right now is a great time to buy solar panels, before new tariffs kick in.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Batteries can be eliminated in such a system by having a standby generator. The solution I personally recommend, as I have researched this in considerable detail, is to purchase a 20kw Generac generator and acquire a 1,000-gallon propane tank to power it. If you practice some simple energy conservation techniques (such as limiting use of air conditioners or heaters), you can run a typical household for 2-3 months on 1,000 gallons of propane. And if you have solar panels to help along the way, that could be stretched to 4-6 months since you&#8217;d only be using the propane fuel at night or when the sun isn&#8217;t shining.<\/span><\/p>\n<h5>Only an off-grid system gives you true energy independence.<\/h5>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">Many people who buy grid-tie systems mistakenly think they&#8217;re buying off-grid systems<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.naturalnews.com\/036194_solar_system_grid-tie_power_grid.html\">Continues in full at source\u2026 <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mike Adams has some advice for anyone thinking buying a solar power system<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":129,"featured_media":50760,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[61,27],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-50757","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-Commentary","category-Miscellaneous"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/50757","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/129"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=50757"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/50757\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":51024,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/50757\/revisions\/51024"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/50760"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=50757"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=50757"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=50757"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}