{"id":50746,"date":"2012-06-17T08:51:04","date_gmt":"2012-06-17T08:51:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=50746"},"modified":"2012-06-21T07:12:33","modified_gmt":"2012-06-21T07:12:33","slug":"when-the-derivatives-market-crashes-and-it-will-u-s-taxpayers-will-be-on-the-hook","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=50746","title":{"rendered":"When the Derivatives Market Crashes (and it will) U.S. Taxpayers Will Be on the Hook"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\">The Economic Collapse \u2013 May 29, 2012<\/h1>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Warren\u00a0Buffett once said that derivatives are &#8220;financial weapons of mass destruction&#8221;, and that statement is more true today than it ever has been before.\u00a0 Recently, JP Morgan made national headlines when it announced that it was going to take a <\/span><a title=\"2 billion dollar loss\" href=\"http:\/\/theeconomiccollapseblog.com\/archives\/the-2-billion-dollar-loss-by-jpmorgan-is-just-a-preview-of-the-coming-collapse-of-the-derivatives-market\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">2 billion dollar loss<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"> from derivatives trades gone bad.\u00a0 Well, it turns out that JP Morgan did not tell us the whole truth.\u00a0 As you will see later in this article, most analysts are estimating that the losses will eventually be far larger than 2 billion dollars.\u00a0 But no matter how bad things get for JP Morgan, it will not be allowed to fail.\u00a0 JP Morgan is the largest bank in the United States, so it is essentially the &#8220;granddaddy&#8221; of <\/span><a title=\"the too big to fail banks\" href=\"http:\/\/theeconomiccollapseblog.com\/archives\/the-too-big-to-fail-banks-are-now-much-bigger-and-much-more-powerful-than-ever\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">the too big to fail banks<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">.\u00a0 If JP Morgan gets to the point where it is about to collapse, the U.S. government and the Federal Reserve will rush in to save it.\u00a0 Because of this &#8220;security blanket&#8221;, banks such as JP Morgan feel free to take outrageous risks.\u00a0 Today, JP Morgan has more exposure to derivatives than anyone else in the world.\u00a0 If they win, they win big.\u00a0 If they lose, U.S. taxpayers will be on the hook.\u00a0 Not only that, but thanks to Dodd-Frank, U.S. taxpayers are on the hook for bailing out the major derivatives clearinghouses if there is ever a major derivatives crisis.\u00a0 So when the derivatives market crashes (and it will) you and I will be left holding a gigantic bill.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Derivatives almost caused the complete collapse of insurance giant AIG back in 2008.\u00a0 But instead of learning our lessons, the derivatives bubble has gotten even larger since that time.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">A<strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\"> <\/span><\/strong><\/span><a title=\"Bloomberg article\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/2011-05-30\/mobius-says-fresh-financial-crisis-around-corner-amid-volatile-derivatives.html\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Bloomberg article<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\"> <\/span>that was published last year contained a great quote from Mark Mobius about derivatives&#8230;.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em><span style=\"color: #c0c0c0;\">Mark Mobius, executive chairman of Templeton Asset Management\u2019s emerging markets group, said another financial crisis is inevitable because the causes of the previous one haven\u2019t been resolved.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #c0c0c0;\">\u201cThere is definitely going to be another financial crisis around the corner because we haven\u2019t solved any of the things that caused the previous crisis,\u201d Mobius said at the Foreign Correspondents\u2019 Club of Japan in Tokyo today in response to a question about price swings. \u201cAre the derivatives regulated? No. Are you still getting growth in derivatives? Yes.\u201d<\/span><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Never in the history of the world have we ever seen anything like this derivatives bubble.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">But instead of getting it under control, we just allowed it to get bigger and bigger and bigger.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Now JP Morgan is in quite a bit of trouble.\u00a0 A recent <\/span><a title=\"Daily Finance article\" href=\"http:\/\/www.dailyfinance.com\/2012\/05\/25\/2-banks-scoring-big-on-jpmorgans-fumble\/\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Daily Finance article<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\"> <\/span>summarized how JP Morgan got into this mess&#8230;.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em><span style=\"color: #c0c0c0;\">Bruno Iksil, a trader working in the bank&#8217;s London office, placed a massive bet in the derivatives market. Derivatives &#8220;derive&#8221; their value from the value of an underlying asset, like stocks, bonds, currencies, or a market index. The specific type of derivative used in Iksil&#8217;s bet was a credit default swap index, known as &#8220;CDX.NA.IG.9.&#8221;<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #c0c0c0;\">CDX.NA.IG.9 tracks a basket of corporate bonds. Iksil&#8217;s positions on the index were so big (one report put it at $100 billion) that they were moving the market and interfering with other traders&#8217; positions. These annoyed traders &#8212; hedge-fund managers &#8212; dubbed Iksil &#8220;the London Whale&#8221; for his outsize bets.<\/span><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">So if the real number isn&#8217;t 2 billion dollars, how much will JP Morgan eventually lose?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Morgan Stanley says that the losses could eventually reach <\/span><a title=\"5 billion dollars\" href=\"http:\/\/www.dailyfinance.com\/2012\/05\/25\/2-banks-scoring-big-on-jpmorgans-fumble\/\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">5 billion dollars<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The Independent is reporting that the losses could eventually reach <\/span><a title=\"7 billion dollars\" href=\"http:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/news\/world\/americas\/double-trouble-at-jp-morgan-traders-losses-could-exceed-7bn-7771347.html\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">7 billion dollars<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">One author featured on <\/span><a title=\"Zero Hedge article\" href=\"http:\/\/www.zerohedge.com\/news\/worlds-largest-prop-trading-desk-just-went-bust\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Zero Hedge<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\"> <\/span>suggested that the losses could ultimately reach 20 billion dollars&#8230;.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em><span style=\"color: #c0c0c0;\">Simple: because it knew with 100% certainty that if things turn out very, very badly, that the taxpayer, via the Fed, would come to its rescue. Luckily, things turned out only 80% bad. Although it is not over yet: if credit spreads soar, assuming at $200 million DV01, and a 100 bps move, JPM could suffer a $20 billion loss when all is said and done. But hey: at least &#8220;net&#8221; is not &#8220;gross&#8221; and we know, just know, that the SEC will get involved and make sure something like this never happens again.<\/span><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The truth is that nobody really knows.\u00a0 Everybody agrees that the losses will likely far exceed 2 billion dollars, but the real extent of the crisis will not be known until the trades play out.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">According to <\/span><a title=\"the Huffington Post\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2012\/05\/29\/jpmorgan-chase-securities-london-whale_n_1552037.html\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">the Huffington Post<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">, JP Morgan recently sold 25 billion dollars of profitable securities to raise some cash.\u00a0 The profit on the sale of those securities will be somewhere in the neighborhood of a billion dollars.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">A billion dollars will help, but it will not be nearly enough.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Many are interpreting this move as a sign of panic by JP Morgan.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Meanwhile, JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon continues to do quite well.\u00a0 In fact, his<strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\"> <\/span><\/strong><\/span><a title=\"23 million dollar pay package\" href=\"http:\/\/money.cnn.com\/2012\/05\/15\/markets\/jpmorgan-shareholder-meeting\/index.htm\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">23 million dollar pay package<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\"> <\/span>was recently approved by shareholders at an annual meeting.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Wouldn&#8217;t you like to do your job badly and still make 23 million dollars?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Right now, JP Morgan is essentially in a &#8220;staring contest&#8221; with those on the other side of the derivatives trades that went bad.\u00a0 This &#8220;staring contest&#8221; was described in a recent<strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\"> <\/span><\/strong><\/span><a title=\"CNN article\" href=\"http:\/\/money.cnn.com\/2012\/05\/18\/markets\/jpmorgan-loss\/index.htm?iid=Lead\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">CNN article<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">&#8230;.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em><span style=\"color: #c0c0c0;\">It&#8217;s clear from public data filed with The Depository Trust &amp; Clearing Corporation that JPMorgan Chase hasn&#8217;t sold any of its positions yet.<strong> <\/strong>The DTCC tracks trading activity and sizes of positions on the IG9 and other indexes, and there haven&#8217;t been any big moves since last week.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #c0c0c0;\">&#8220;Whatever the size was, it&#8217;s clearly not something that you can call one or two dealers and sell,&#8221; said Garth Friesen, a co-chief investment officer at AVM, a derivatives hedge fund that&#8217;s not involved in these trades.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #c0c0c0;\">As soon as it becomes clear that JPMorgan Chase is unwinding its position, it will be obvious to players on every major trading desk. Hedge funds will immediately start piling into that index and buying protection, driving up the bank&#8217;s losses.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #c0c0c0;\">Until then, it won&#8217;t cost the hedge funds much to sit and wait.<\/span><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">JP Morgan is desperately hoping that the markets move in their favor.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">If the markets move against JP Morgan in a big way it could potentially be absolutely catastrophic for the biggest bank in America.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">An excerpt from an email that <\/span><a title=\"Steve Quayle recently received\" href=\"http:\/\/stevequayle.com\/News.alert\/12_Money\/120529.bank.update.html\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Steve Quayle recently received<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\"> <\/span>from an anonymous international banking source contained some chilling analysis of the situation&#8230;.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em><span style=\"color: #c0c0c0;\">The derivative market that JPM plays in is the CDX.NA.IG.9, when factions within their London office (London Whale) made overly leveraged swaps, hedge funds smelled blood and so did a few banks. You see any moves that JPM does here on out exposes their weakness further. Which they can not afford any more exposure thus they are not buying back any more shares which is the equivalent of cutting an artery in a pool full of sharks. The strategy they are taking right now is to sit through the storm and ride it out as they can do nothing else for any action will make them even more vulnerable. They can not absorb hits in both JPM SLV and CDX.NA.IG.9. Inactivity is not something they want to do it is something they have to do. There is no other choice for them.<\/span><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">So what will happen if JP Morgan loses too much money?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Well, it will beg the U.S. government and the Federal Reserve for money and the U.S. government and the Federal Reserve will comply.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">There is no way that they are going to let the largest bank in America fail.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">In addition, as I mentioned earlier, Dodd-Frank has put U.S. taxpayers on the hook for future bailouts of derivatives clearinghouses.\u00a0 This was detailed in a recent <\/span><a title=\"Wall Street Journal article\" href=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/SB10001424052702304840904577422393164106270.html\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Wall Street Journal article<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">&#8230;.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em><span style=\"color: #c0c0c0;\">Little noticed is that on Tuesday Team Obama took its first formal steps toward putting taxpayers behind Wall Street derivatives trading \u2014 not behind banks that might make mistakes in derivatives markets, but behind the trading itself. Yes, the same crew that rails against the dangers of derivatives is quietly positioning these financial instruments directly above the taxpayer safety net.<\/span><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">One of the things that Dodd-Frank does is that it gives the Federal Reserve the power to provide &#8220;discount and borrowing privileges&#8221; to derivatives clearinghouses in the event of a major derivatives crisis.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">This is what our politicians love to do.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">They love to have the U.S. taxpayer guarantee everything.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Our politicians look at us as one giant insurance policy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Apparently they believe that if anything in the financial world goes wrong that U.S. taxpayers should be the ones to clean up the mess.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">But will we really have enough money to bail everyone out when the derivatives market crashes?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Today, the 9 largest banks in the United States have a total of more than <\/span><a title=\"228.72 trillion dollars\" href=\"http:\/\/demonocracy.info\/infographics\/usa\/derivatives\/bank_exposure.html\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">200 trillion dollars<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"> of exposure <\/span><a title=\"derivatives\" href=\"http:\/\/theeconomiccollapseblog.com\/archives\/the-coming-derivatives-crisis-that-could-destroy-the-entire-global-financial-system\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">to derivatives<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">That is approximately 3 times the size of the entire global economy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The U.S. government is already nearly 16 trillion dollars <\/span><a title=\"in debt\" href=\"http:\/\/theeconomiccollapseblog.com\/archives\/category\/u-s-government-debt\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">in debt<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">How in the world can we afford to keep bailing out the huge messes that Wall Street makes?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Sadly, most Americans have no idea how vulnerable our financial system really is.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">It is a poorly constructed house of cards that could come crashing down at any time.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">If you still have faith in our financial system you are being quite foolish and you will soon be bitterly, bitterly disappointed.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/theeconomiccollapseblog.com\/archives\/when-the-derivatives-market-crashes-and-it-will-u-s-taxpayers-will-be-on-the-hook\">Source <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Warren Buffett once said that derivatives are &#8220;financial weapons of mass destruction&#8221;, and that statement is more true today than it ever has been 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