{"id":38176,"date":"2011-11-21T10:07:23","date_gmt":"2011-11-21T10:07:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=38176"},"modified":"2011-11-25T08:46:46","modified_gmt":"2011-11-25T08:46:46","slug":"hope-not-hate-truth-not-lies-more-likely","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=38176","title":{"rendered":"Hope Not Hate? Truth Not Lies More Likely!"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">Gilad Atzmon \u2013 gilad.co.uk November 20, 2011<\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">This weekend, Bradford TUC (Trade Union Council) joined the\u00a0Israeli lobby\u2019s attempt to silence me. This sort of thing is no surprise since my book \u2018The Wandering Who\u2019 exposes the devastating continuum between Israel, Diaspora Sayanim, Anti-Zionist Zionists (AZZ) and the influential and varied communities of Shabbos Goyim(1).\u00a0 So, is it a coincidence that last Shabbos (Sabbath) eve Paul Meszaros Bradford TUC\u2019s secretary \u00a0and some of his fellow unionists got very busy indeed doing the Zionists\u2019 bidding?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">These Bradford Trade Unionists clearly\u00a0had a case against me which was that, as Meszaros said in his letter to his comrades,\u00a0<em>\u201cin our opinion, one that is shared by many commentators Atzmon is a Holocaust denier and anti-Semite.\u201d<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Strong words indeed, and words that one would expect to be accompanied by some concrete and conclusive evidence.\u00a0Unfortunately this was not the case because, although Meszaros provided his comrades with some quoted \u2018evidence\u2019, he forgot to also supply them with any direct link to my original writing. And he had good reason for this omission.<strong>\u00a0The document Meszaros provided for his comrades was a \u2018fugazi\u2019 \u2013 a fake. \u00a0\u00a0<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Yes, as outrageous as it may sound, Meszaros asked his fellow unionists to judge my words on the basis of a compilation of carefully selected sentences from five different paragraphs carefully stitched together to look as if it was a single statement made by myself. \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Here is the statement Meszaros attributes to me.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cWhen I was young and na\u00efve I was also convinced that what they told us about our \u2018collective\u2019 Jewish past really happened.\u00a0 I believed it all, the Kingdom of David, Massada, and then the Holocaust:\u00a0 the soap, the lampshade, the death march, the six million.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">As it happened, it took me many years to understand that the Holocaust, the core belief of the contemporary Jewish faith, was not at all an historical narrative for historical narratives do not need the protection of the law and politicians\u201d<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cIt took me many years to accept that the Holocaust narrative, in its current form, doesn\u2019t make any historical sense.\u00a0 Here is just one little anecdote to elaborate on:<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">If, for instance, the Nazis wanted the Jews out of their Reich (Judenrein \u2013 free of Jews), or even dead, as the Zionist narrative insists, how come they marched hundreds of thousands of them back into the Reich at the end of the war?\u201d<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cI am left puzzled here; if the Nazis ran a death factory in Auschwitz-Birkenau, why would the Jewish prisoners join them at the end of the war?\u00a0 Why didn\u2019t\u00a0 the Jews wait for their Red liberators?\u201d<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">To read the entire Bradford TUC letter click<strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gilad.co.uk\/storage\/banners%20PDF.pdf\" target=\"_blank\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">here<\/span><\/strong><\/a><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">What Meszaros apparently did not share with his comrades, was the embarrassing fact that the above paragraph was crudely, yet deliberately put together to give the impression that I am indeed a Holocaust denier or an anti-Semite or both.<\/span><\/p>\n<h5><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">My original words give a somewhat different impression. (The sentences that were cherry-picked by Meszaros are in <span style=\"color: #ffff99;\">yellow<\/span>, those he left out are in <span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">bold<\/span>)<\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gilad.co.uk\/writings\/truth-history-and-integrity-by-gilad-atzmon.html\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.gilad.co.uk\/writings\/truth-history-and-integrity-by-gilad-atzmon.html<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #ffff99;\">&#8220;When I was young and naive I was also somehow convinced that what they told us about our \u2018collective\u2019 Jewish past really happened. I believed it all, the Kingdom of David, Massada, and then the Holocaust: the soap, the lampshade[1], the death march, the six million.<\/span><\/p>\n<h5 style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #ffff99;\">As it happened, it took me many years to understand that the Holocaust, the core belief of the contemporary Jewish faith, was not at all an historical narrative for historical narratives do not need the protection of the law and politicians.<\/span>\u00a0It took me years to grasp that my great-grandmother wasn\u2019t made into a \u2018soap\u2019 or a \u2018lampshade\u2019(2). She probably perished out of exhaustion, typhus or maybe even by mass shooting. This was indeed bad and tragic enough, however not that different from the fate of many millions of Ukrainians who learned what communism meant for real. \u201cSome of the worst mass murderers in history were Jews\u201d writes Zionist\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/engforum.pravda.ru\/showthread.php?t=264714\" target=\"_blank\">Sever Plocker<\/a>\u00a0on the Israeli Ynet disclosing the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.holodomorthemovie.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Holodomor<\/a>\u00a0and Jewish involvement in this colossal crime, probably the greatest crime of the 20th\u00a0\u00a0century. The fate of my great-grandmother was not any different from hundreds of thousands of German civilians who died in an orchestrated indiscriminate bombing, because they were Germans. Similarly, people in Hiroshima died just because they were Japanese. 1 million Vietnamese died just because they were Vietnamese and 1.3 million Iraqis died because they were Iraqis. In short the tragic circumstances of my great grandmother wasn\u2019t that special after all.<\/h5>\n<h5 style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">It doesn\u2019t make sense<\/h5>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #ffff99;\">It took me years to accept that the Holocaust narrative, in its current form, doesn\u2019t make any historical sense. Here is just one little anecdote to elaborate on:<\/span><\/p>\n<h5 style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #ffff99;\">If, for instance, the Nazis wanted the Jews out of their Reich (Judenrein\u00a0&#8211; free of Jews), or even dead, as the Zionist narrative insists, how come they marched hundreds of thousands of them back into the Reich at the end of the war?\u00a0<\/span>I have been concerned with this simple question for more than a while. I eventually launched into an historical research of the topic and happened to learn from Israeli holocaust historian professor\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=jhDu_Y1sPiE\" target=\"_blank\">Israel Gutman<\/a>\u00a0that Jewish prisoners actually joined the march voluntarily. Here is a testimony taken from Gutman\u2019s book<\/h5>\n<h5 style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8220;One of my friends and relatives in the camp came to me on the night of the evacuation and offered a common hiding place somewhere on the way from the camp to the factory. \u2026The intention was to leave the camp with one of the convoys and to escape near the gate, using the darkness we thought to go a little far from the camp. The temptation was very strong. And yet, after I considered it all\u00a0 I then decided to join (the march) with all the other inmates and to share their fate &#8221;\u00a0(Israel Gutman [editor], People and Ashes: Book Auschwitz &#8211; Birkenau, Merhavia 1957).\u00a0<\/h5>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #ffff99;\">I am left puzzled here, if the Nazis ran a death factory in Auschwitz-Birkenau, why would the Jewish prisoners join them at the end of the war? Why didn\u2019t the Jews wait for their Red liberators?\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">As you probably gather, my original words actually give a completely different impression. Rather than deny the Holocaust, I actually want to strip from it, its primacy and to turn it into a universal and ethical message. I actually talk about my great grandmother who died in the Holocaust &#8211; but I argue that she wasn\u2019t special at all (though she may be special to me). She had a fate similar to millions of Vietnamese, Iraqis, Germans, Russians and so on. I wonder, why would a socialist such as Meszaros or anyone else for that matter, object to such a universal and humanist approach?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Taking quotes out of context is a common enough Zionist trick, but what we see here is a deliberate attempt to pervert the truth. In Meszaros\u2019 text my words are actually re-assembled in order to give them a new, sinister meaning. You have to ask yourself: What might lead a perfectly decent trade unionist to operate in such a dishonest manner?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">So here are some questions to Meszaros and to anyone else tempted to engage in this kind of falsification and deception:\u00a0<strong>If I am indeed as bad as you think, why the need to fake what I say? Why don\u2019t you just present my own original words with their true and original meaning?<\/strong>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">I would also like to learn from Mr. Meszaros whether he considers falsifying quotes to be a legitimate, \u2018progressive\u2019 procedure?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">But I think we know the answers to these questions.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">So, I suppose in the end there\u2019s only one question left to answer. Why did Paul Meszaros choose to deceive his comrades? \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Well, the answer is that I don\u2019t think that he did. I don\u2019t think that Meszaros did actually falsify the above text. I believe that he was himself fooled by our own and much-loved Jewish \u2018anti\u2019-Zionists and certainly by one particular gentleman\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hopenothate.org.uk\/blog\/article\/1487\/pull-the-plug-on-gilad-atzmon\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">named Nick Lowles<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">\u00a0<\/span>who operates within an \u2018anti-Racist\u2019 organization named \u201cHope not Hate\u201d.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">By the time I woke up this morning, London activists had provided me with all the information I needed concerning Mr. Lowles\u2019 \u2018Hope not Hate\u2019 and Searchlight, the magazine Lowles until recently, edited. Clearly, we are dealing here with some obvious links with Zionist organizations.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">A quick search revealed that Searchlight is certainly committed to \u2018fight fascism\u2019 but it is equally committed to the battle against anti-Zionism in the left. \u201cMuch more commonplace on the left than Holocaust denial is the comparison of Israel with Nazi German\u201d,<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.searchlightmagazine.com\/index.php?link=template&amp;story=19\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">complains<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u00a0the \u2018far left\u2019 \u2018anti\u2019 racist magazine in a clear and open attempt to gate-keep the Palestinian solidarity discourse.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Lowles was Searchlight\u2019s editor until last month. Here is an extract from a\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.civilliberty.org.uk\/newsdetail.php?newsid=1358\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">recent expose<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">\u00a0<\/span>of Nick Lowles:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u00a0&#8220;Until recently, as editor of Searchlight, Nick Lowles was very camera shy. Over the years, he also attempted to generate various false trails with regards to his true identity posing, at various times, as a member of the Union of Jewish Students, a trotskyite activist for a Workers&#8217; Revolutionary Party splinter group keen on infiltrating the Labour Party and a supporter of the violent anarchist Anti-Fascist Action, whose members later planted bombs for the IRA in London. For those reasons, and his close association with the mainstream media, Lowles is distrusted amongst anarchist and other far-left activists who regard him as a tout. Likewise, Gerry Gable, whose links to the CST, police and security services have aroused much suspicion from various quarters over the years.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">And would you believe it? Lowels is also active on the highly suspicious Socialist Unity \u2013 just one more pseudo-socialist cell devoted mainly to\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.socialistunity.com\/?p=8532\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Zio-centric gate-keeping<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">To the Ultra Zionist Jewish Chronicle (JC)\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thejc.com\/news\/uk-news\/57214\/neo-nazis-still-pose-real-threat\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Lowles told<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">that the &#8220;worry about antisemitism stemming from the far left&#8217;s obsession with Israel was a concern&#8221;. But Lowles\u00a0 doesn&#8217;t just talk to the JC he\u00a0 also\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thejc.com\/comment-and-debate\/comment\/46072\/progressives-are-not-majority-uk\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">writes<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u00a0for the rabid Zionist mouthpiece.<strong>\u00a0I guess that as much as Lowles opposes racism , he must feel at home with Zionist racism.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Apparently, Meszaros\u00a0and his union branch, like so many before them, were simply taken for a Zionist ride. Rather than being asked to respond to my words, they were instead responding to a document that was deliberately and consciously falsified by an infiltrator.\u00a0 The good people in the Bradford union movement have been deliberately deceived by a bunch of\u00a0<em>Sayanim<\/em>,\u00a0embedded deep within the British left.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">In case anyone has failed to grasp it, Nick Lowles has every reason to oppose me. My latest book, \u2018<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.co.uk\/Wandering-Who-Jewish-Identity-Politics\/dp\/1846948754\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1312891884&amp;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">The Wandering Who<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\"><strong>\u2019<\/strong> <\/span>is there to expose the high and sophisticated level of duplicity of\u00a0<em>Sayanim<\/em>, AZZ, Shabbos Goyim and other forms of infiltrators in our midst.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">I don\u2019t know how to save the British Trades Union movement and anyway, that\u2019s not my job.\u00a0 But as things stand, Mr. Paul Meszaros and the Bradford TUC owe me one big apology.\u00a0I hope Meszaros for once, will be brave enough to admit his mistake.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4><strong>The Wandering Who-A Study of Zionist Sayanim in our midst\u00a0, available on\u00a0<span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Wandering-Who-Gilad-Atzmon\/dp\/1846948754\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1312891740&amp;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Amazon.com\u00a0<\/span><\/a>\u00a0or\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.co.uk\/Wandering-Who-Jewish-Identity-Politics\/dp\/1846948754\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1312891884&amp;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Amazon.co.uk<\/span><\/a><\/strong><\/h4>\n<p><span style=\"color: #c0c0c0;\">1. A Shabbos goy &#8211; a non-Jewish individual who assists a Jewish individual or organization. Traditionally, in those activities on the Sabbath which Jews are not permitted to perform<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #c0c0c0;\">2. During WWII and after it was widely believed that soaps and lampshades were being mass produced from the bodies of Jewish victims. In recent years the Israeli Holocaust museum admitted that there was no truth in any of those accusations.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gilad.co.uk\/writings\/hope-not-hate-truth-not-lies-more-likely.html\">Source<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Reaction to Gilad\u2019s \u2018The Wandering Who\u2019 continues to expose those beholden to Zionist influence. The latest being members of the Bradford Trade Union Council\u2019s whose efforts to silence Gilad have been revealed <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":109,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[37],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-38176","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-Israel_Anti-Semitism_Zionism_and_US-UK_allies"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38176","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/109"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=38176"}],"version-history":[{"count":13,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38176\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":38411,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38176\/revisions\/38411"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=38176"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=38176"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=38176"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}