{"id":37126,"date":"2011-11-05T08:50:45","date_gmt":"2011-11-05T08:50:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=37126"},"modified":"2011-11-12T13:24:24","modified_gmt":"2011-11-12T13:24:24","slug":"david-icke-pushing-the-boundaries-of-credibility","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=37126","title":{"rendered":"David Icke: Pushing the Boundaries of Credibility"},"content":{"rendered":"

Rixon Stewart \u2013 November 5, 2011<\/h2>\n

I have a problem with David Icke. Not with all he says, in fact much of that is perfectly sound but I have a problem with the man himself.<\/h5>\n
\"\"<\/a>I\u2019m not alone in this. I know of quite a few other researchers who have similar doubts about him. Again this isn\u2019t so much about what Icke says, particularly when he\u2019s repeating from other people\u2019s work, which he does quite\u00a0often. No, the problem stems from the man himself.<\/h5>\n
Ideas about \u201cconspiracy\u201d are gaining ground, even if they aren\u2019t broadcast in the corporate media. There is a mounting receptivity to such ideas as people sense that the conventional interpretation of events presented by the media is limited.<\/h5>\n
This is where Icke steps in. The former sports presenter is charismatic when he presents other people\u2019s ideas and research and he certainly makes the most of it. Trouble is he often passes it off as his own.<\/h5>\n
In fact I personally know of two researchers who passed on the results of their investigations to Icke, only to see it repeated almost verbatim in his books without any acknowledgement.<\/h5>\n
This is more than just plagiarism, however. Notions about conspiracy are now entering the mainstream and Icke isn\u2019t doing too much harm when he repeats such ideas, even if they didn\u2019t originate with him.<\/h5>\n
The real problem comes when Icke presents his own ideas. Some of which are almost laughable as they reveal a PROFOUND lack of insight.<\/h5>\n
\"\"<\/a>His notions about \u201cReptilians\u201d are an example. In the \u201cBiggest Secret\u201d Icke made reference to Richard Tomlinson\u2019s now historic affidavit on Princess Diana\u2019s death<\/span><\/a>. The only problem was that after referring to Tomlinson\u2019s affidavit Icke undermined its credibility by declaring that the House of Windsor is made up of shape-shifting Reptilians.<\/h5>\n
Of course we know the British Royal Family are descended from minor German nobility (the House of Hanover) who were installed on the British throne to do the moneylenders bidding. That much should be common knowledge even if it isn\u2019t widely publicised.<\/h5>\n
We also know that Prince Phillip is not a particularly nice man. That is self-evident to all but the most blinkered. But to suggest, as Icke does, that he is a shape shifting \u201creptilian\u201d who feeds on human flesh pushes the boundaries of credibility. Indeed the idea is so absurd that it makes Prince Phillip almost seem deserving of our sympathy, which he isn\u2019t.\u00a0<\/h5>\n
Nonetheless by mixing in his own limited views with others credible research Icke distorts otherwise valid perspectives.<\/h5>\n
I\u2019m reminded of an earlier criticism I made of Icke, which prompted others to defend him with accusations that I was just \u201cjealous\u201d. I\u2019m not but the response says a lot about his appeal: because with the help of his own particular charisma Icke manages to reduce everything to the lowest common denominator.<\/h5>\n
So instead of morally compromised and spiritually undeveloped human beings in positions of power we get \u201cshape-shifting Reptilians\u201d. And instead of powerful spiritual entities working through these individuals and against humanity\u2019s higher evolution, we get more of the same shape-shifting Reptilians.<\/h5>\n
I doubt that Icke is intentionally trying to mislead. He\u2019s just spiritually lacking and driven by an overweening egoism, which he then gratifies by exploiting other\u2019s research and basking in the attention it brings him.<\/h5>\n
But like they say: \u201ca little knowledge is a dangerous thing\u201d and Icke would have done\u00a0better had he stuck to being a sports presenter, rather than presenting others research.<\/h5>\n
As it is however, what he says must come as a revelation for those unfamiliar with conspiracy research \u2013 and that\u2019s the problem because when he presents others research it tends to get devalued through association with Icke\u2019s own ideas.<\/h5>\n
\"\"<\/a>Together with his ideas about Reptilians, Icke\u2019s dismissal of Christ as a fictitious character invented to help subdue humanity is another example of his profound lack of spiritual insight.<\/h5>\n
But he doesn\u2019t stop there. In fact in the \u201cBiggest Secret\u201d he claims that not only Christianity but also Islam and Judaism are part of the \u201cReptillian agenda\u201d. (The Biggest Secret p111)<\/h5>\n
It speaks volumes about the man\u2019s lack of spiritual insight that he seems to think that the modern\u00a0church somehow reflects the original Christian impulse. Or that Islam can be dismissed so easily, without looking beyond to the spiritual essence of the faith.<\/h5>\n
That\u2019s probably because he can\u2019t. This man is so firmly rooted in the physical world that it shows in his physiognomy<\/span>\u00a0and bloated countenance<\/span><\/a>; and what he thinks he sees beyond the physical is speculative and based on\u00a0hearsay\u00a0\u2013 not direct personnel experience.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/h5>\n

How Icke Exploits Others Research<\/h2>\n

A recent example of how Icke exploits others research for his own ends appeared when he linked to an article on this website entitled Death of a Showman: Jimmy Saville 1924-2011<\/span><\/a>.<\/h5>\n
Appearing under the heading \u201cDeath of a Showman: Jimmy Saville 1924-2011 \u2013 The Grotesque Paedophile and So Much Else\u201d, Icke essentially just tagged a few words onto to the title.<\/h5>\n
Adding some quotes from the article \u2013 but with no attribution \u2013 along with a couple of photos from the article itself, Icke included not one but three photos of himself on the webpage<\/span><\/a>; in addition to adverts for his own books and forthcoming appearances.<\/h5>\n
Like anyone driven by egoism the man is eager to push himself to the foreground. Garnering all the attention he can get using others research and, in this case the personnel experiences of T Stokes, to promote his own work.\u00a0\u00a0<\/h5>\n
Adversity may make strange bedfellows but we should not let ourselves be fooled into thinking that Icke\u2019s \u201cinsights\u201d are anything other than ill-informed speculation.<\/h5>\n
Humanity faces a spiritual challenge in the New World Order and Icke is not the man to meet it.<\/h5>\n
If anything he\u2019s what the ancients warned would appear around this time, a false prophet, spiritually ignorant and debased;\u00a0the latter day equivalent of a fair ground barker using others credible research to promote his own infantile ideas.<\/h5>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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