{"id":290070,"date":"2024-06-25T07:11:03","date_gmt":"2024-06-25T07:11:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=290070"},"modified":"2024-06-27T06:31:16","modified_gmt":"2024-06-27T06:31:16","slug":"msm-signaling-a-change-in-the-russia-ukraine-narrative","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=290070","title":{"rendered":"MSM Signaling a change in the Russia-Ukraine Narrative?"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Kit Knightly \u2013 Off-Guardian June 23, 2024<\/strong><\/h1>\n<p>Two major incidents in the last week suggest we might be about to see a change in the narrative surrounding the Russian war in Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p>First we saw Piers Morgan <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=mULVrUGh6wo\">interviewing economist and former US diplomat Prof. Jeffrey Sachs<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Sachs is noted for his eloquent and historically literate takes on the history of NATO and Russia and his persistent warning on the danger of World War III, all of which he repeated during an interview where Morgan\u2019s essentially just let Sachs talk:<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/mULVrUGh6wo?si=EtbUeAjxluY5cRZX\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><br \/>\n&#8212;<\/div>\n<p>Why? The people who run Morgan\u2019s show know exactly what Sachs was going to say \u2013 not least because he said it all in an 3 hour interview with <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/TuckerCarlson\/status\/1795500379578253729\">Tucker Carlson last month<\/a> \u2013 so why did they invite him on?<\/p>\n<p>Guests on high profile programs like that are vetted to the max, and if they might say something the producers don\u2019t want their audience to hear they don\u2019t get invited on.<\/p>\n<p>Taboo opinions are simply never given a platform, it is the first and most effective form of censorship.<\/p>\n<p>People like Peter Hitchens have praised the interview, claiming Morgan was \u201creduced to goggling silence\u201d by the facts:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Piers Morgan reduced to goggling silence by facts. For once he doesn&#39;t try to shout down his interviewee.  I suspect he didn&#39;t know any of this at the time, and I also suspect he ceased to know it within a few hours of being told. Fun,  though. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/TBXi3HaHpp\">https:\/\/t.co\/TBXi3HaHpp<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Peter Hitchens (@ClarkeMicah) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ClarkeMicah\/status\/1804459411282313218?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">June 22, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>But anybody who has watched 10 minutes of Morgan knows he\u2019s never reduced to goggling silence by <em>anything<\/em>, least of all facts.<\/p>\n<p>Controlling the narrative is interviewer 101. If your guest starts saying something you don\u2019t want them to say you interrupt them, you change the subject, you redirect the conversation or you bluster and engage in ad hom attacks.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a basic interview technique, one that Morgan especially is known for \u2013 Hitchens even points out <em>\u201cFor once [Morgan] doesn\u2019t try to shout down his interviewee.\u201d<\/em> And he\u2019s right, he didn\u2019t<\/p>\n<p>\u2026Why?<\/p>\n<p>If a guest persists in saying things they\u2019re not supposed to say, you simply <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/0S1jcjbGBZU?si=LOd4Tir9zb6xHgz9\">cut their feed and claim technical difficulties<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>None of that happened. So clearly the people in charge were happy to air Sachs\u2019 views.<\/p>\n<p>The second such incident happened yesterday, when Reform Party leader Nigel Farage went on the BBC and claimed NATO was partially responsible for the war in Ukraine <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/videos\/c8vv3vgngd0o\">by provoking Russia<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Naturally, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Ryomc9xx1xI\">every establishment tool<\/a> has come out against this position, with frequent reference to appeasement and being paid in rubies and the like. But, again, why was it aired?<\/p>\n<p>Agenda-shilling fake alternatives Media Lens claim it\u2019s impossible to discuss this issue\u2026<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Now actually made into a BBC \u2018live\u2019 scandal. The idea that the war in Ukraine was provoked by the West is simply not allowed to be discussed:<a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/sBNw9AUkC2\">https:\/\/t.co\/sBNw9AUkC2<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/A19PfY6LMw\">pic.twitter.com\/A19PfY6LMw<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Media Lens (@medialens) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/medialens\/status\/1804489668655796311?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">June 22, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>\u2026<strong><em>but it\u2019s been discussed on Britain\u2019s top two tv channels twice in two days.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In 2014, during the original (real) Ukraine crisis, it was <em>really<\/em> impossible to talk about the Russian POV. Not only was nobody who shared a pro Russia POV allowed anywhere near a mainstream platform, but comment sections were moderated and censored to such an extent we literally had to start our own website just get our views published.<\/p>\n<p>When the Covid \u201cpandemic\u201d kicked off, how many dissenting experts were ever given a mainstream platform? These were well regarded researchers and doctors, with facts at their fingertips, who couldn\u2019t get even a second of air time.<\/p>\n<p>Media Lens know this, because they took part in it.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s what it\u2019s like when it\u2019s impossible to discuss something \u2013 it\u2019s <em>impossible to discuss it<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>So, we can conclude, at this point in time it is viewed as acceptable \u2013 even preferable \u2013 that the Russian POV gets at least some air time.<\/p>\n<p>As to why, and what it could mean moving forward, you\u2019re welcome to speculate.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>Support Off-Guardian:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/offguardian\">Ko-fi<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.subscribestar.com\/offguardian\">Subscribestar<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.com\/donate\/?hosted_button_id=CKFB3MH8CGB9U\">Paypal<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/off-guardian.org\/2024\/06\/23\/msm-signaling-a-change-in-the-russia-ukraine-narrative\/\">Source<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Has it been decided to put conflict with Russia on a backburner while the West aids Israel in its looming clash with Hezbollah and Iran? Then, once that is dealt with the West can go back to dealing with its more pressing problem, Russia.  <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":39262,"featured_media":290071,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[61,91,25,116],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-290070","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-Commentary","category-russia","category-The_Media","category-ukraine"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/290070","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/39262"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=290070"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/290070\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":290072,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/290070\/revisions\/290072"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/290071"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=290070"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=290070"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=290070"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}