{"id":282951,"date":"2024-03-05T08:05:22","date_gmt":"2024-03-05T08:05:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=282951"},"modified":"2024-03-06T08:39:01","modified_gmt":"2024-03-06T08:39:01","slug":"british-soldiers-on-the-ground-in-ukraine-says-german-military-leak","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=282951","title":{"rendered":"British soldiers \u2018on the ground\u2019 in Ukraine, says German military leak"},"content":{"rendered":"

Dan Sabbagh and Kate Connolly \u2013 The Guardian March 4, 2024<\/strong><\/h1>\n

British soldiers are \u201con the ground\u201d in Ukraine<\/a> helping Kyiv\u2019s forces fire long-range Storm Shadow missiles, according to a leak in Russian media of a top-secret call involving German air force officers.<\/p>\n

The Kremlin said the leak demonstrated the direct involvement of the \u201ccollective west\u201d in the war in Ukraine \u2013 while former British defence ministers expressed frustration with the German military in response to the revelations.<\/p>\n

Released on Friday by the editor of the Kremlin-controlled news channel RT, Margarita Simonyan, the audio recording \u2013 confirmed as authentic by Germany<\/a> \u2013 captures Luftwaffe officers discussing how Berlin\u2019s Taurus missiles could be used to try to blow up the Kerch Bridge connecting Russia with occupied Crimea.<\/p>\n

During the conversation, Lt Gen Ingo Gerhartz, the head of the Luftwaffe, describes how Britain works with Ukraine on deploying Storm Shadow missiles against targets up to 150 miles behind Russian lines.<\/p>\n

\u201cWhen it comes to mission planning,\u201d the German commander says, \u201cI know how the English do it, they do it completely in reachback. They also have a few people on the ground, they do that, the French don\u2019t.\u201d<\/p>\n

Reachback is a military term to describe how intelligence, equipment and support from the rear is brought forward to units deployed on the front, but Gerhartz suggests the British approach is deeper, involving support on site.<\/p>\n

The Kremlin spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, said the leaked conversations \u201conce again highlight the direct involvement of the collective west in the conflict in Ukraine\u201d \u2013 although on Sunday Germany\u2019s defence minister, Boris Pistorius, accused Moscow of waging \u201can information war\u201d<\/a> against the west.<\/p>\n

Nevertheless, the authenticity of the 38-minute conversation, which took place a fortnight ago on the relatively insecure Webex platform, is not being doubted. It appears to have been hacked and recorded by Russian actors who passed it on to the editor of RT to release on Telegram on Friday.<\/p>\n

Tobias Ellwood, a former UK junior defence minister, said the leak was embarrassing to Berlin, although he told the BBC that Russia probably knew about the British presence given the intensity of its espionage activities.<\/p>\n

But that should \u201cnot prevent some serious conversations taking place in the diplomatic corridors between Germany and Britain and indeed Nato, as well as to why this happened in the first place\u201d, Ellwood added.<\/p>\n

Britain confirmed the presence of a \u201csmall number of personnel\u201d in Ukraine on Tuesday last week, although it did not say what tasks they were undertaking amid concerns that any potential combat involvement could be considered as escalatory by Moscow.<\/p>\n

That followed a surprise statement by the German chancellor, Olaf Scholz, last Monday, who said he would not provide Taurus missiles to Ukraine because it would require the presence of Germans to match the British and French and be engaged in \u201cthe way of target control and accompanying target control\u201d.<\/p>\n

That, he warned, risked making Berlin a \u201cparticipant in the war\u201d even if such soldiers were based in Germany. \u201cGerman soldiers can at no point and in no place be linked with the targets that this system [the Taurus] reaches,\u201d he added.<\/p>\n

On the recording, Gerhartz and three other German officers are discussing the chancellor\u2019s refusal, and how it may be possible to get around it, before a 30-minute meeting the air force chief has with the defence minister, Pistorius. They complain that a German journalist, said to be close to Scholz, had been briefed that Taurus is not effective.<\/p>\n

They come to the conclusion that a speedy delivery and the use of the missiles in the immediate future would only be possible if German soldiers were involved. Taurus training for Ukrainian soldiers to avoid putting German soldiers on Ukraine soil was a possibility, but would take months of preparation.<\/p>\n

Taurus missiles have a longer maximum range than Storm Shadow and Scalp, their French equivalents, of 300 miles. On the call, the German officers discuss potential target types for the Taurus including a \u201cbridge in the east\u201d that is said to be difficult to reach with pillars that are \u201crelatively small\u201d.<\/p>\n

The description matches the strategic Kerch Bridge, a key supply route to Russian occupied Crimea, and which despite numerous attempts to bomb<\/a> it, the Ukrainians have so far been unable to destroy. They conclude it would be technically feasible to blow up the bridge, but it may take \u201c10 to 20 missiles\u201d.<\/p>\n

Roderich Kiesewetter, the opposition Christian Democrats\u2019 defence expert, said Russia had leaked the meeting at this moment in time to specifically \u201cundermine a German Taurus delivery\u201d. He suggested the leak was carried out \u201cin order to divert public conversation away\u201d from other issues, including the death of Alexei Navalny<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Source<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Leaked audio, which has been authenticated, reveals that British and French military personnel are in Ukraine helping to fire Storm Shadow cruise missiles at Russian forces<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":39262,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[91,116],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-282951","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-russia","category-ukraine"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/282951","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/39262"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=282951"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/282951\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":283045,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/282951\/revisions\/283045"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=282951"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=282951"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=282951"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}