{"id":263283,"date":"2023-01-06T07:55:36","date_gmt":"2023-01-06T07:55:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=263283"},"modified":"2023-01-07T06:28:18","modified_gmt":"2023-01-07T06:28:18","slug":"germany-signals-shift-on-supply-of-tanks-and-armoured-vehicles-to-ukraine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=263283","title":{"rendered":"Germany signals shift on supply of tanks and armoured vehicles to Ukraine"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\">French AMX &#8216;tank killer&#8217;<\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Dan Sabbagh, Philip Oltermann \u2013 The Guardian Jan 5, 2023<\/strong><\/h1>\n<p>Germany has hinted that it may allow tanks or armoured vehicles to be sent to Ukraine a day after France said it would supply armoured vehicles to Kyiv in an attempt to create a breakthrough in the ten-month war.<\/p>\n<p>Ministers and officials from Berlin indicated that a decision to supply Marder infantry fighting vehicles or Leopard 2 tanks for the first time could be taken at the next meeting of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/2022\/nov\/17\/russia-launches-another-wave-of-missile-strikes-across-ukraine\">\u201cRamstein\u201d Ukraine Defence Contact Group<\/a> \u2013 a series of regular talks between Ukraine and its allies \u2013 in mid-January.<\/p>\n<p>The German position on delivering heavy weapons to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/ukraine\">Ukraine<\/a> had never been \u201cstatic\u201d, said Robert Habeck, the economy minister and deputy to chancellor Olaf Scholz, on a visit to the Norwegian capital Oslo.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe Allies have expanded their position at two points, namely France and the US being prepared to deliver lighter tanks,\u201d Habeck said. \u201cAnd that will certainly also influence the German position.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>France said on Wednesday it was upping its military aid to Kyiv, by supplying an unspecified number of AMX-10 RC light armoured vehicles capable \u2013 experts said \u2013 of scouting roles and supporting main battle tanks.<\/p>\n<p>A few hours later, Joe Biden, the US president, said American-made Bradley fighting vehicles could also be sent to Ukraine. Administration officials added later that a decision on the Bradleys could come as soon as later this week.<\/p>\n<p>Ukraine has repeatedly said that it needs about 300 tanks and 600-700 infantry fighting vehicles from the west in order to give its military a chance of breaking through the increasingly fortified Russian positions along the frontline.<\/p>\n<p>However, the US and Germany have both been wary of supplying Ukraine with Nato-standard tanks, because they feared it would be interpreted by Russia as escalatory. But as the fighting has gone on, the west has gradually given Kyiv more effective western weapons to try to help it win the war.<\/p>\n<p>On Wednesday night, Ukraine\u2019s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, said Paris\u2019s decision \u201csends a clear signal to all our other partners: there is no rational reason why Ukraine has not yet been supplied with western-type tanks\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>The country\u2019s leader also highlighted the forthcoming defence ministers\u2019 meeting, and said \u201cbefore the new \u2018Ramstein\u2019 such signal is extremely relevant\u201d. Chaired by the US, the international meeting is where western defence ministers discuss and coordinate future packages of military aid for Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p>Ukraine has long had its eye on western tanks and armour to compliment its reduced fleet of Soviet-designed T-64 and T-72 tanks and BMP infantry vehicles, after over 10 months of fighting. Kyiv has received about 200 post-Soviet tanks from eastern European countries since the start of the war, but the available supply in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/europe-news\">Europe<\/a> is now limited.<\/p>\n<p>To replenish its stocks and build up a fresh attacking force, Ukraine has sought to obtain US-made M1A1 Abrams tanks and most persistently, German-made Leopard 2 tanks, of which there are about 2,000 in service in 13 European countries, and Marder infantry fighting vehicles.<\/p>\n<p>Regardless of which country owns the Leopards or Marders, approval from Berlin is required to re-export them to Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cTanks are potentially decisive because there is no substitute if you want to attack enemy formations in defensive positions,\u201d said Ben Barry, a former British army tank commander and land warfare analyst at the International Institute for Strategic Studies thinktank.<\/p>\n<p>Russia has largely sought to dig in since abandoning its exposed position in Kherson on the west side of the Dnieper River in November, as it tries to consolidate its occupation of a swathe of territory roughly the size of Portugal in the east and south of Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p>A breakthrough, if it comes at all, is likely to require the combined use of tanks, heavy armour and infantry, replicating a standard offensive tactic that dates back to the second world war. \u201cThe effectiveness of infantry is doubled, even with just three or four tanks helping,\u201d Barry added.<\/p>\n<p>France\u2019s six-wheeled AMX-10 RC were first deployed in the 1980s and have been used in multiple operations from Afghanistan to Mali. They are in the process of being phased out by Paris however, making them an ideal gift for Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p>An aide to France\u2019s president, Emmanuel Macron, said it was \u201cthe first time that western-designed tanks are supplied to the Ukrainian armed forces\u201d but experts said the AMX-10 RC is too lightly armoured to be considered a proper tank. Such rhetoric, however, may be useful cover if Germany shifts its position.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/2023\/jan\/05\/germany-tanks-ukraine-russia-war\">Source<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Germany may soon follow France in sending heavier armoured fighting vehicles to Ukraine. The French pledge to send at least ten AMX-\u2018tank killers\u2019 came as the Biden administration contemplates sending Bradley fighting vehicles to Ukraine<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":39262,"featured_media":263285,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[91,116],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-263283","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-russia","category-ukraine"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/263283","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/39262"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=263283"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/263283\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":263286,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/263283\/revisions\/263286"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/263285"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=263283"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=263283"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=263283"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}