{"id":235197,"date":"2021-05-31T12:48:16","date_gmt":"2021-05-31T12:48:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=235197"},"modified":"2021-06-02T07:19:30","modified_gmt":"2021-06-02T07:19:30","slug":"hitlers-duplicity-revealed-a-devout-christian-in-public-but-the-total-opposite-behind-closed-door","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=235197","title":{"rendered":"Hitler\u2019s Duplicity Revealed: A Devout Christian in Public, but the Total Opposite Behind Closed Door"},"content":{"rendered":"

An addendum to a previous article on\u00a0\u2018Hitler\u2019s Table Talk\u2019<\/em>
\n<\/em>in which Hitler\u2019s Religious Views were discussed\u00a0<\/strong><\/h1>\n

Edited and Presented by Lasha Darkmoon \u2013 Darkmoon May 31, 2021<\/h2>\n

\"\"<\/a>LD:\u00a0 The authenticity of <\/strong>Hitler\u2019s Table Talk<\/strong><\/em> is proved beyond reasonable dispute here, revealing in the process Hitler\u2019s implacable hatred of Christianity. This is a follow-up article to <\/strong>Hitler\u2019s Religious Views: Excerpts from Hitler\u2019s Table Talk. <\/em><\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n

The present article consists of two very condensed mini-articles by and about David Irving in connection with <\/strong>Hitler\u2019s Table Talk<\/strong><\/em>. The first is a brief response by Irving\u00a0 to a correspondent on his website. It\u00a0 validates the Table Talk book and enthuses about its contents. The second mini-article, entitled \u2018<\/strong>The Faking of Hitler\u2019s Last Testament\u2019<\/strong><\/em>, relates to Irving\u2019s dealings with the Swiss forger Francois Genoud. This is followed by a fascinating 4-minute video which expands on Irving\u2019s dealings with the confidence trickster Genoud. It succeeds in\u00a0 drawing a sharp line\u00a0 between the <\/strong>fraudulent<\/strong><\/em> material, now identified, and the <\/strong>authentic<\/strong><\/em> material, now fully available to Hitler scholars.\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

The upshot of these notes is to set the reader\u2019s mind at rest on two important issues:\u00a0 (1) There is\u00a0 no longer any reason to doubt the authenticity of <\/strong>Hitler\u2019s Table Talk.<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0 (2) These informal dinner conversations between Hitler and his closest associates, which took place between 1941 and 1944, clearly reveal Hitler\u2019s contempt for Christianity \u2014 \u201can evil invention of the Jews\u201d.<\/strong><\/p>\n

People who continue to believe that Hitler was a devout Christian are in for a crushing disappointment. Hitler was not an atheist, but neither was he the exemplary Christian he pretended to be in his speeches and official pronouncements. All that was an act for public consumption. The image of devout\u00a0 religiosity Hitler needed to project to the German people was a calculated exercise in duplicity.\u00a0 (LD)<\/strong><\/p>\n

—<\/p>\n

Eric Yankovich\u00a0asks on Thursday, January 1, 2004 if it worth spending time reading Hitler\u2019s Table Talk<\/em><\/p>\n

How good is Hitler\u2019s Table Talk?<\/strong><\/h2>\n

I PURCHASED a book\u00a0Hitler\u2019s Table Talk, 1941 to 1944<\/strong><\/em>.<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0It is about 1.5 inches thick. It has an introduction by\u00a0H.R. Trevor-Roper\u00a0and translated by\u00a0Norman Cameron\u00a0and\u00a0R.H. Stevens.<\/p>\n

Can you please tell me if you have read it and what your thoughts are. Assuming Hitler did have these so called \u201cTable Talks\u201d, do you believe that it was faithfully translated?<\/p>\n

The reason I ask you is that I do not trust much of anything, especially being burnt by reading\u00a0Albert Speer\u2019s book. I briefly discussed this with you about four or five years ago during a luncheon you had in Washington D.C.<\/p>\n

I read a bit of the\u00a0<\/strong>Table Talk<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0and I am already turned off because H.R. Trevor Roper engages in an anti-Hitler diatribe in the beginning of the book, so it is difficult for me to trust the translation. H.R. Trevor Roper should have written a book \u201cWhy I hate Hitler, even though I never met him!\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n

I respect your opinion; I read five of your books already. The last one was\u00a0Dresden, a real crime and tragedy if there ever was one.<\/p>\n

Eric Yankovich<\/p>\n

David Irving responds:<\/h3>\n

\"\"<\/a>Hitler\u2019s Table Talk<\/em>\u00a0is the product of his lunch- and supper-time conversations in his private circle from 1941 to 1944. The transcripts are genuine. (Ignore the 1945 \u201ctranscripts<\/a>\u201d published by Trevor-Roper in the 1950s as\u00a0<\/strong>Hitler\u2019s Last Testament<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0\u2014 they are fake).<\/strong><\/p>\n

The table talk notes were originally taken by Heinrich Heim, the adjutant of Martin Bormann, who attended these meals at an adjacent table and took notes. (Later Henry Picker took over the job). Afterwards Heim immediately typed up these records, which Bormann signed as accurate.<\/p>\n

Fran\u00e7ois Genoud\u00a0purchased the files of transcripts from Bormann\u2019s widow just after the war, along with the handwritten letters which she and the Reichsleiter had exchanged.<\/p>\n

For forty thousand pounds\u2014paid half to Genoud and half to Hitler\u2019s sister Paula\u2014George Weidenfeld, an Austrian Jewish publisher who had emigrated to London, bought the rights and issued an English translation in about 1949.<\/p>\n

For forty years or more no German original was published, as Genoud told me that he feared losing the copyright control that he exercised on them. I have seen the original pages, and they are signed by Bormann.<\/strong><\/p>\n

They were expertly, and literately, translated by Norman Cameron and R.H. Stevens, though with a few (a very few) odd interpolations of short sentences which don\u2019t exist in the original \u2014 the translator evidently felt justified in such insertions, to make the context plain.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Translation is a difficult chore: I have translated four books, including Nikki Lauda\u2019s memoirs \u2014 one can either produce a clinical, wooden, illiterate version, like Richard \u201cSkunky\u201d Evans\u2019 courtroom translations of Third Reich documents, or one can produce a readable, publishable text which properly conveys the sense and language of the original.<\/p>\n

Try translating for publication the Joseph Goebbels diaries \u2014 written often in a Berlinese vernacular \u2014 without running into trouble with the courts! Louis Lochner succeeded in my view magnificently.<\/p>\n

Weidenfeld\u2019s translator also took liberties with translating words like Schrecken<\/em>, which he translated as \u201crumour\u201d in the sense of \u201cscare-story\u201d. In my own view such translations are acceptable, but they caused a lot of difficulty at the Lipstadt Trial where I found myself accused of manipulating texts and distorting translations (because although I relied on the Weidenfeld translation, I had had access to the original document, and should have known that the actual word was Schrecken<\/em>).<\/p>\n

The Table Talks\u2019 content is more important in my view than Hitler\u2019s\u00a0<\/strong>Mein Kampf<\/strong><\/em>, and possibly even more than his <\/strong>Zweites Buch<\/strong><\/em> (1928). It is unadulterated Hitler. He expatiates on virtually every subject under the sun, while his generals and private staff sit patiently and listen, or pretend to listen, to the monologues.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Along with Sir\u00a0Nevile Henderson\u2019s gripping 1940 book\u00a0<\/strong>Failure of a Mission<\/strong><\/em>, this was one of the first books that I read, as a twelve year old:\u00a0<\/strong>Table Talk<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0makes for excellent bedtime reading, as each \u201cmeal\u201d occupies only two or three pages of print. My original copy, purloined from my twin brother Nicholas, was seized along with the rest of my research library in May 2002.<\/strong><\/p>\n

I have since managed to find a replacement, and I am glad to say that \u2014 notwithstanding the perverse judgment of Mr. Justice Gray \u2014\u00a0Hitler\u2019s Table Talk<\/em>\u00a0has recently come back into print, unchanged: Schrecken and all.<\/p>\n

First published on David Irving\u2019s site (January 1, 2004)<\/a><\/strong><\/h3>\n

Further Reading Recommended by Irving<\/strong><\/h3>\n

[1]\u00a0Hitler\u2019s War<\/a><\/strong>, by David Irving<\/p>\n

[2]\u00a0Hitler\u2019s Table Talk<\/a><\/strong> (1941-1944): His Private Conversations (746 pages<\/em>)<\/p>\n

[3] Hitler\u2019s Table Talk July 24, 1942 (Hitler says he will ship all the Jews to Madagascar after the war<\/a><\/strong>)<\/p>\n

[4]\u00a0 Radical\u2019s Diary,\u00a0re the contract that Lord Weidenfeld signed with Genoud for Hitler\u2019s Table Talk: what he paid Hitler\u2019s sister Paula<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n

[5]\u00a0Michael Law asks Mr Irving about Genoud and Hitler\u2019s Table Talk, and gets a full reply<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n

[6] \u00a0Items on Henry Picker and Table Talk<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n

[7]\u00a0\u00a0Francois Genoud\u2019s role in the composition of the fake 1945\u00a0<\/strong>Bunkergespr\u00e4che<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0(Table Talk,\u201dtestament\u201d):\u00a0The Faking of Hitler\u2019s \u2018Last Testament\u2019.<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2014\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a7\u00a0 \u00a0\u2014<\/p>\n

THE\u00a0 FAKING\u00a0 OF\u00a0 HITLER\u2019S\u00a0 LAST\u00a0 TESTAMENT<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Slightly abridged<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

Seeking to disprove\u00a0David Irving\u2019s assertion (1977) that there is no archival evidence that Hitler even knew of the Final Solution of the Jewish Problem, let alone ordered the liquidation of millions of Jews, some critics pointed to a passage in the book edited by\u00a0Hugh Trevor Roper,\u00a0<\/strong>Hitler\u2019s Last Testament<\/strong><\/em>, allegedly based on a typescript record of Hitler\u2019s informal mealtime remarks in 1945, analogous to the famous <\/strong>Hitler\u2019s Table Talk.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

There\u2019s only one problem.<\/p>\n

The document, first published in French in 1959 and in English in 1961 as Hitler\u2019s Last Testament<\/em>,\u00a0 is a FAKE.<\/p>\n

Its owner, Swiss lawyer-activist Fran\u00e7ois Genoud, now dead, first showed it to David Irving at a meeting at the Hotel d\u2019Angleterre in Geneva in 1971. At that time it was about fifty pages of typescript, typed on a small-face non-German typewriter on American-size legal paper. What was very surprising was that Genoud was willing to let German editor Professor\u00a0Eduard Baumgarten\u00a0work only from a\u00a0French<\/em>\u00a0text, which he insisted must be retranslated into German.<\/p>\n

David Irving continued to press Genoud, expressing to him strong doubts, after discussions with Hitler\u2019s private staff, especially one who stated categorically that he had never seen Hitler\u2019s secretary Martin Bormann taking down such notes in 1945.<\/p>\n

There was a further difficulty. Mr Irving had a transcript of the 1945 diary, now in Moscow, of Bormann (pictured<\/a>); he also had a facsimile of the register of all the guests at Hitler\u2019s February 1945 meals, kept by Hitler\u2019s manservant Heinz Linge. <\/strong>These unquestionably genuine documents showed that Bormann was NOT PRESENT\u00a0 at several of the meals during which the \u201ctestament\u201d showed he had apparently taken notes; SOMETIMES HE WAS NOT EVEN IN BERLIN. (Emphasis added)<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

In 1979, Genoud phoned Mr Irving at his Paris hotel, and said: \u201cI have a gift for you.\u201d He handed him a package. It contained a copy of the complete typescript of the Testament<\/em>. The package gift from Genoud raised a new problem. Every page was heavily amended and expanded in somebody else\u2019s hand-writing.<\/p>\n

Mr Irving, astonished, asked Genoud whose was the writing. <\/strong><\/p>\n

Genoud then finally admitted it was his own. <\/strong><\/p>\n

Later still, he admitted in conversation with Mr Irving, that the entire typescript was his own confection, saying: \u201cBut it is just what Hitler would have<\/strong> said.\u201d<\/p>\n

(The unabridged article can be read here)<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n

Watch the fascinating video below in which Irving expands on his meeting with the outrageous Swiss forger Francois Genoud (pictured here<\/strong><\/a>).<\/p>\n

BITCHUTE\u00a0 VIDEO\u00a0 :\u00a0 4.16 mins<\/h4>\n