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UK Column New \u2013May 2021<\/strong><\/h1>\n

The transcript below is of a call made to Brian Gerrish on 18 April 2021. The voice of the caller has been changed to protect her identity. <\/em><\/h4>\n

The senior NHS Board member warns that the government is now controlling the NHS, and it is the government that is actually dictating what the NHS should do during\u00a0Covid emergency measures. She states that the result of the government’s enforced Covid and vaccination policies can be described as genocide. Government messaging\u00a0to her senior NHS colleagues is removing their capacity for rational thought, and they are effectively being mind controlled to implement policies which, in more rational moments, they would challenge as wrong.\u00a0 Fear prevails, and she and her board colleagues are being expected to toe an unwritten policy line, set predominantly in conference calls with no written record. She warns that if her privately troubled colleagues do not speak out, “your children will be next”.<\/em><\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: I\u2019ve been contacted by an NHS professional who would like to speak to me about things happening in the NHS. So, without any ado, let\u2019s go over to our caller today.<\/h4>\n

Thank you very much for calling me. It\u2019s really been wonderful that you\u2019ve had the confidence to give us a call at the UK Column.<\/h4>\n

I\u2019m going to ask the key question: why<\/em> have you called me today?<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: Yes, thank you. I was listening to \u2014 I think it was your Wednesday [14 April] broadcast<\/a><\/span>, and the nurse testimony that you had on there, and it really resonated with me. My heart really hurt, and understood what she was going through. You know, she obviously had UK-wide knowledge\u00a0of the NHS, and a lot of knowledge of what\u2019s going on within her job.<\/h4>\n

So, as you said, I\u2019m an NHS professional, and I actually sit on an NHS Board.<\/h4>\n

I guess the other reason for reaching out was that she talked a couple of times about \u201cthe next layer of management\u201d being the Board. I think she reported in to one of the Board. You know, I just really wanted to share my<\/em> personal story on what\u2019s happened since last March.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: That, of course, is wonderful, because information coming directly from people who are professionals in the system is extremely valuable. I\u2019m going to say to you straight away that I realise that doing this is an enormous pressure, so thank you, and we respect that.<\/h4>\n

So, you talk about what you feel comfortable to share with the audience.<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: OK, thank you. So, I guess when all the Coronavirus started, and when it came into the UK \u2014 mainframing kind of March last year \u2014 obviously the conversations really were predominantly about measures to stop infection, forecasting, you know, \u201cthis is what we\u2019re anticipating will happen\u201d, you know, \u201chow do we manage the services\u201d. Kind of all that was going on, and then as we went through the summer, there started to be a little bit of talk about the vaccine development and potential treatments and things like that.<\/h4>\n

And then the treatments completely went, and the vaccine discussions ramped up, and in November it really started to be predominantly what we talked about. And, I mean, you can\u2019t<\/em> call it a vaccine, because it doesn\u2019t meet the definition, so I\u2019m going to refer to it as an injection, but I\u2019m just making sure that everyone\u2019s on the same page with me.<\/h4>\n

So, it became kind of clear to myself, and a few other colleagues that I know on other NHS\u00a0Boards, in November that we were going to be asked to completely roll this out \u2014 and also that there really were some long-term safety issues, and stuff that we just didn\u2019t know<\/em>. And so it really took us by surprise, the scope<\/em> and speed<\/em> at which they were moving.<\/h4>\n

And at the time, we had a lot of discussions, as a Board, as to our concerns around this \u2014 and remember that when the NHS is in emergency measures, which it is and has been, then the Government is able to tightly control what the NHS does, and is able to dictate a lot more what the NHS does than it would be able to if it wasn\u2019t in emergency measures.<\/h4>\n

So, our Chief Executive had discussions about our concerns, and I can say other Boards had the same discussions, and in a nutshell, what we were told in December was, \u201cIf you refuse to co-operate in rolling this out, then we\u2019ll remove you.\u201d And it wasn\u2019t said explicitly, and it wasn\u2019t put in e-mails, but it was certainly very indicated that that was the case.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: So that was essentially a veiled threat. I think you\u2019d call that a veiled threat.<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: Yes. And the second challenge we had, very much, and central to a lot of our discussions, is that even if we didn\u2019t \u2014 if we said, \u201cLook, we\u2019re not doing this\u201d \u2014 then the public that we serve would be very angry, or the majority of the public that we serve: certainly not all<\/em> of them, but the majority<\/em> of the public that we serve, would at that time<\/em> have been very angry and actually probably would have tried to help<\/em> with our removal, because they wanted<\/em> this, and how dare we try and hold that back for them!<\/h4>\n

So at that time, I kind of thought this through, and I thought, \u201cWell, I can either leave, because I don\u2019t agree with it, or I can stay and put my energy into ensuring things like informed consent, ensuring that we were capturing any side effects correctly, that we were giving balanced information to the public so that they could make an informed decision.\u201d And, you know, people were going to take this no matter what<\/em> I did, but perhaps in being there and trying to focus on these<\/em> areas, I could make a difference.<\/h4>\n

So that was my position at that time, and then, as the months have rolled by, the government pressure has mounted and mounted, and I have challenged repetitively, and most of the time it\u2019s brushed aside; sometimes, people will be very flippant back; and sometimes, there will just be silence. But I keep trying to challenge, using the Government\u2019s own data, using some of the policies, even looking at this huge problem of Covid takes over everything, so that all the other health services are not running as they should.<\/h4>\n

And what I\u2019ve witnessed, really, as well, alongside this is just a massive increase in propaganda, in false statements about it, a complete lack of informed consent, side effects not being reported by patients and NHS staff, and this normalisation of \u201cIf you are in bed for two days, that\u2019s OK\u201d(!) And I don\u2019t ever remember, when we had the flu jab \u2014 you know, people going for the flu jab a couple of years ago \u2014 if you were in bed for two days after having the flu jab, that wouldn\u2019t have been considered OK! But for the Covid jab, that\u2019s been normalised.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: That\u2019s an extremely interesting point.<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: Mmm. So, basically, after these discussions \u2014 I have been told on more than one occasion that I can leave if I don\u2019t agree, and \u201cThe consensus has been there; we just need to get on with it now.\u201d So it\u2019s kind of moved from that concern at the beginning, and what I\u2019ve witnessed over the months is people becoming more comfortable with this rollout, and \u201cWe just need to get on with it, and this is what we need to do.\u201d<\/h4>\n

And I witnessed a lot of to-ing and fro-ing from people around me. Periods of concern and then they\u2019ll get the documents down from the Government, and then it\u2019s like, \u201cOh, it\u2019s fine, it\u2019s fine.\u201d So almost like an internal battle happening with the colleagues around me, that is causing a lot of stress and illness for them.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: Do some of your Board colleagues have concerns about what\u2019s going on?<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: They did<\/em>, and they do<\/em> at times, but what seems to happen is, it\u2019s like a rollercoaster ride. So there\u2019ll be\u00a0something I\u2019ll say, or something will happen, or something will be on the news that will spring concern, but then once they\u2019ve got the government line on it, it will smooth that down somewhat. And that\u2019s what I\u2019m challenged with. It\u2019s like a cognitive dissonance where the concern rises and then somebody soothes them and says, \u201cThat\u2019s OK, no, we\u2019ve got this, and it\u2019s fine.\u201d And now we\u2019re in this sort of pattern of just waiting for, \u201cWell, what\u2019s the government line on this<\/em>?\u201d<\/h4>\n

I think that\u2019s really important, actually, for listeners to understand, because I think that a lot of people think that the NHS is in complete control of this, and actually don\u2019t realise that under emergency measures, they are told<\/em> what to do.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: That\u2019s a very important point. And how<\/em> do they get told what to do? Presumably, the policy comes in from the Government, and who does that go to? Does it go to the Chief Executives?<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>:\u00a0 Yes, and the Director of Public Safety or equivalent.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: So those individuals in particular are the ones that, we\u2019ll say, the government communications come straight in to them, and they<\/em> then have to sell that policy on into the local NHS system itself.<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: Yes.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: And how does the instruction come in from the Government? Is that done by e-mail and letters, or is this happening with direct phone calls, for example? Well, it would be conference calls now, I suppose.<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: Yes, so a mixture, but a lot of the detail is usually on conference calls, and there\u2019s not as much sent in\u00a0e-mails, in\u00a0written<\/em> e-mails on policies.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: And just to focus things a little bit: can you just give us a summary of what your concerns are? You\u2019re describing that things are not right, you\u2019re talking about the vaccines, and you\u2019re saying people are spending two days in bed and that would have been a problem for the normal flu vaccine but nobody\u2019s taking any notice of that. Just package what your concerns are at the moment about what you\u2019re seeing going on.<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: Yes, there\u2019s so many. I think the key ones are lack of true informed consent, lack of a balanced risk-versus-benefit ratio being given to people. I think people are told that their adverse events are \u201cnormal\u201d. I know<\/em> that the Yellow Card reporting system is not<\/em> reflective of the amount of adverse events that are actually happening, and I\u2019ll give you an example of that. I know of a patient who reported their extreme adverse-event side effect to a nurse, and that nurse did not <\/em>report it to the Yellow Card reporting system. So that\u2019s a concern, that we haven\u2019t got an accurate reflection of what is actually happening after these injections.<\/h4>\n

And I think the long-term safety effects of these injections is still<\/em> not known, yet we can see that the short-term impact\u00a0is huge. And we\u2019re now moving into a territory where we are going into healthy, younger, fertile individuals, and \u2014 God forbid \u2014 children. And that, quite frankly, terrifies me.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: Yes, and I think there are other people who feel this as well, because they could say, \u201cWell, OK, we know there\u2019s adverse effects at the moment.\u201d Still, if we were to take the position that the number and the nature of the adverse effects to date is acceptable against the benefits (whatever we think those benefits are), they key bit that the public does not know is what any future adverse reactions will be.<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: Yes, that\u2019s exactly right. And I think that is used to say, \u201cWell, look, we haven\u2019t had that many adverse events versus the millions that we\u2019ve vaccinated\u201d \u2014 but it\u2019s not a true representation, and so you can\u2019t really draw those parallels.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: How do the working staff \u2014 you principally talked about the reaction from quite a senior level in the NHS \u2014 how is all this affecting the doctors and nurses on the ground, in the wards? The people who are having to deal with adverse reactions, but people who are also having to give the vaccinations: how is it affecting them?<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: This is where I agreed with your caller on 14 April. Most people are just following what they\u2019re asked to do, and \u2014 even at Board level \u2014 don\u2019t know what\u2019s in these injections. I\u2019ve tested that theory and found it to be true. What we\u2019re seeing at the moment is, from my perspective, a very exhausted workforce which is told different things constantly.<\/h4>\n

I\u2019ll give you an example, too, that I was extremely concerned about recently. People with dry, cracking hands from the amount of hand-washing that they\u2019re having to do; constant face mask wearing, causing huge skin problems; massive headaches; a lot of people off sick \u2014 and the pressure that is going into the system is huge.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: Effects that you\u2019re describing, of people who are ending up with sore, cracked hands (and I\u2019ve heard about this from many other people in the NHS): I know that the sanitising gels that they\u2019re using can have different effects, but one of the key ones is they tend to dry people\u2019s skin out, and if you\u2019re using them all the time, you end up with cracked skin. Of course, if you\u2019ve got cracked skin, that\u2019s going to make you very vulnerable as an additional path to infection, with the people you\u2019re dealing with as a healthcare professional.<\/h4>\n

What about who would deal with this? Health and Safety Executive, or who\u2019s responsible in the NHS for responding to those sorts of concerns about the wearing of masks and what\u2019s happening to people\u2019s hands as a result of the sanitisation?<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: Well, the department that will oversee that on the wards is Infection Control. And that will then go up into the Medical Board.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: And are they producing any reports? Are they doing their job and it\u2019s then being squashed, or are they simply not doing their job?<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: I couldn\u2019t say precisely, but from what I\u2019ve understood, a lot of people are complaining about it but it\u2019s not being logged officially. So I look at my cracked hands, but it\u2019s not being logged officially. And I think there is fear<\/em> about logging these things, and there is a mind control, almost, about \u201cWell, you\u2019ve got<\/em> to do it, because otherwise you could be responsible for this<\/em> spread of this infection, or this<\/em> person dying.\u201d I feel that the pressure is huge<\/em>.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: I don\u2019t want to put any words in your mouth, because you are here to tell your experience, so I\u2019ll phrase things very carefully. At the beginning, when the pandemic<\/em> was declared, how did that affect people?<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: I think there was <\/em>a level of fear, but actually, I feel like the fear has increased<\/em>, because the propaganda and the news outlets and the pressure from the Government has increased. It\u2019s almost like you\u2019re seeing the fear and pressure increase at the same time<\/em>. So, if you said to me, \u201cHow did people react in April last year versus how are people now?\u201d, they\u2019re much<\/em> worse now in terms of their overall health, their mental wellbeing, and their fear levels.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: That is a very sad and serious state of affairs. What comes into my mind immediately is the SPI-B\u00a022 March 2020\u00a0paper<\/span><\/a> that was put into the SAGE board meeting, whatever they call it, where it specifically said that the idea was that the fear factor was going to be ramped up in the population as a whole. It said, \u201cPeople are not fearful enough<\/em>; we need to make them more fearful<\/em> in order to effectively get the policy into place.\u201d<\/h4>\n

Now, most people that we\u2019ve circulated and broadcast that document to, of course, read it as a member of the public, and they look at it that that was the government message as to how to deal with the public<\/em> \u2014 but I think it\u2019s not unreasonable to say that these psychological policies were also directly injected into the NHS, and indeed other parts of the Government and civil service. But if we just focus on the NHS, this applied psychology was brought directly into the NHS, and we have been given (and we\u2019ve found for ourselves) quite a few documents within various NHS\u00a0Trusts in England describing how they\u2019re going to use applied behavioural psychology to progress the Covid and vaccination care programme within the hospitals.<\/h4>\n

So this deliberate applied psychology policy was not<\/em> just for the general public; it\u2019s come in through the NHS as well, it seems to me.<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower:<\/strong> Yes, and I think those types of things aren\u2019t completely obvious, but I can certainly give you examples where I\u2019ve had very rational conversations with my peers and then we can sit down a couple of days later and that rational conversation has gone<\/em>. And I\u2019m having an irrational<\/em> one that doesn\u2019t make sense; it\u2019s based on fear or emotions or something that\u2019s changed \u2014 from what they have been told in other meetings, or what\u2019s gone on in briefings.<\/h4>\n

So I can\u2019t comment on that directly that\u00a0it\u2019s so visible<\/em>, but it certainly seems that there\u2019s evidence that \u2014 I just feel like most people in the NHS\u00a0seem very irrational in their choices and what they\u2019re choosing to continue to do. And that\u2019s not an excuse for them, by any manner of means, but, you know, even at a very senior level in the NHS, people are not<\/em> thinking rationally, and they definitely are having an element of psychology that\u2019s been driven behind this.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: If we take the case of people in the NHS who\u2019ve already had the vaccine, when they had their vaccine, were they actually aware of the true detail of the adverse effects via the Yellow Card system? Do people inside the NHS know more about the vaccines, when they\u2019re vaccinated, than, say, an ordinary member of the public would?<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: This was the other thing that resonated with your Wednesday caller. No, they don\u2019t<\/em>. I have asked multiple people, from people actually injecting to people that sit on the Board, and they don\u2019t<\/em> know what\u2019s in the vaccines, and they don\u2019t<\/em> really understand the risks. I\u2019d also say that most people that I speak to in a senior management position in the NHS have said, \u201cI was fifty-fifty about whether to take it or not.\u201d<\/h4>\n

So, at some level, there is a subconscious belief that it might not be safe, in my opinion, because there\u2019s a lot of fifty-fifty, but as time has worn on, they\u2019ve taken it. So a lot of people have taken it later, rather than in the first wave, when it was being offered to healthcare professionals. And, of course, now they sit in that bucket of people that would potentially not want to know about adverse events for themselves<\/em>, because they\u2019ve taken that injection.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: One would have thought that inside the NHS system, particularly as you go up the management chain, people would absolutely know about the Yellow Card adverse reaction records. It\u2019s on the Government website; the NHS does make an oblique reference through to the Yellow Card system through their own part of the public NHS website, but even when you get to the MHRA part, you\u2019ve really got to look for the datasheets<\/span><\/a> themselves. I still find it incredible, the idea that people in in the NHS have not actually seen those sheets themselves!<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: Yes, exactly, and when I have brought up and presented on these things, and tried to get some movement, the thing that comes back a lot is, \u201cWell, yes, you know, there\u2019s only a few, there\u2019s this, there\u2019s that, but actually, we\u2019re vaccinating millions of people.\u201d Now, even if you take into account\u00a0that the reporting isn\u2019t accurate, when we think about any other drug in history that has gone through the NHS, it would not<\/em> be acceptable for that many people to die, full stop. And yet, in this circumstance, for some reason, it is <\/em>acceptable.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: Well, it\u2019s put across as acceptable.<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: Absolutely. I mean, it\u2019s not, but yes.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: The other caller raised the issue that patients were not being fully informed, and the Patient Information Leaflets were not being given, so people didn\u2019t really get anything<\/em> when they got their vaccination. Possibly, they got something after<\/em> they were vaccinated, but they weren\u2019t being given information before<\/em> which would enable them to make that all-important informed choice. Have you also been seeing, or are you aware of the fact, that the public are being vaccinated without being given the full information? I think you did mention that earlier in this conversation, so apologies if I\u2019m getting you to repeat that, but I think it\u2019s an important thing.<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: Yes, that was one of the things that I felt that if I stayed, I could maybe have an influence on: ensuring that that is happening. And I think that, to a certain extent, my calls have<\/em> been heard on that, but it\u2019s still woefully inadequate. People are often given the leaflet twenty minutes, fifteen minutes, before they have the injection. They\u2019re already in the vaccination centre. It\u2019s a very slick operation. They\u2019re told it\u2019ll just be OK. You know, there\u2019s no time for deep reflection or questions.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: Are you able to say anything about pregnant women? Pregnancy has been one of the hot topics, and of course pregnant women are particularly vulnerable, the child is vulnerable. Have you got anything you can tell us about that, or are pregnant women going through the system and being vaccinated along with everybody else?<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: I don\u2019t have any knowledge of that, no.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: Well, you\u2019ve been very brave in speaking out, and it\u2019s wonderful, because of course every time somebody speaks out, somebody\u2019s listening, and says, \u201cOh, my goodness, I know about this,\u201d and so they are prepared to also speak out. So, I very much hope that what you\u2019ve done with us today will trigger that response in somebody else.<\/h4>\n

If you had a magic wand, what would you like to see happen at the moment to help resolve what\u2019s going on?<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: If I had a magic wand, it would just stop<\/em>. It would stop now<\/em>, before we hurt anybody else. That would be amazing. That would be the best day ever, because every day I wake up, I think about how I can find that golden nugget to try and wake up the people around me to the damage<\/em> we are causing. We are causing \u2014 I mean, we heard the word \u2018genocide\u2019 from the lady on Wednesday. I don\u2019t disagree with that statement. And it\u2019s terrifying, and it saddens me, and the reason I\u2019m staying where I am for now is to try and make a difference in whatever way I can, but \u2014 like she said, and I would absolutely agree with this \u2014 I want to see that judgment day. I will<\/em> give evidence.<\/h4>\n

And also, I will take whatever comes to me for still staying and being part of that, but I will continue where I can to try and make any small gains that I can for the public that we\u2019re serving, because to give up and walk away isn\u2019t going to get the right outcome either. And so, if I can make little differences until I can stand it no more, then that\u2019s what I will do.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: Thank you for sharing that with us. And \u2014 I\u2019m going to put it in professional terms \u2014 if we could do the right things and get the whole process to stop at the moment, am I right in saying that would be the opportunity that we could \u2014 as a nation, as the NHS \u2014 have a pause, draw breath, and then actually look at what has been happening, analyse it properly, and really decide whether the policies that have been enacted were mistaken or whether they have been deliberately put into being; are they malicious? That we can have a full<\/em> analysis of what\u2019s happened.<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: Yes, that\u2019s right, that\u2019s right. And I think the danger, as well, here is that for a segment of the population, they will bundle this in with, you know, \u201cAll vaccines are bad\u201d, or \u201cAll this is bad\u201d or \u201cAll that is bad\u201d. And there are amazing<\/em> things happening in the NHS each and every day that does<\/em> save lives. People are committed and caring. And so, you could lose all<\/em> of that with what\u2019s going on, and we need<\/em> that stop and to\u00a0really, really re-evaluate.<\/h4>\n

And, you know, the other thing is, we need to find each other<\/em>. The people that are desperately trying to make a difference and desperately trying to scream at the top of our voices, \u201cPlease, please stop!\u201d We<\/em> need to find each other, and it\u2019s very difficult, because we\u2019re quite spread out, we\u2019re demonised, we\u2019re told to shut up, in every<\/em> job, and that makes the process a lot more challenging.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: Well, I can only thank you, but I really mean it, because it is<\/em> difficult to speak out. You have given a really comprehensive run through what you\u2019ve seen happening, and your summing-up at the end there, I think, is just wonderful, because, yes, we need to bring people together.<\/h4>\n

What advice would you give to somebody who is thinking about having the vaccination \u2014 that\u2019s my first question \u2014 and the second question is, what advice would you have for somebody who\u2019s already had the vaccination?<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: I think the advice for the first question is, \u201cDo your own research.\u201d I think, as a nation, we\u2019re over-reliant on our healthcare professionals. And that\u2019s not a get-out clause, but, you know, you\u2019re asking me how we empower somebody to really take control\u00a0\u2014 because it\u2019s their body, right, it\u2019s their<\/em> body \u2014 and absolutely, the NHS is there to support them, but do your own research, and do it wide<\/em>. If you don\u2019t know how to look at the clinical studies, find somebody that does, and ask for support.<\/h4>\n

Challenge<\/em> the people that ring you up and offer you a vaccine. Challenge them, and ask them questions. We need to keep at critical thinking for ourselves. That would be the biggest thing. I\u2019m<\/em> not going to tell you what to do. People ask me, and I\u2019m not<\/em> going to tell them. I am<\/em> going to say, \u201cLook, this has no<\/em> long-term safety data, and there may<\/em> be some challenges with it. You\u2019ve got to weigh up the risk-benefit ratio. Go and do your own research as well!\u201d I think that\u2019s a key point.<\/h4>\n

If people aren\u2019t able to do that, then I often just give them a few areas they could go and look at, and I always try to be balanced in that, because I think that\u2019s important. You know, people need to make their own minds up with this.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: So the second group is obviously people who\u2019ve had vaccines. We know<\/em> that there are a lot<\/em> of people, a lot<\/em> of people: they\u2019ve had vaccines, if they\u2019ve had an adverse reaction, they are really on the uptake of looking for the information and trying to find out why, so they\u2019re very <\/em>motivated people. But people who\u2019ve had the vaccine maybe didn\u2019t have any adverse effects at all. Should they go ahead and take a second vaccine?<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: Again, I can\u2019t tell them what to do, but what I would say is, I\u2019m seeing more and more traffic that is questioning the safety after they\u2019ve had the first dose, because of the things that are in the news, and I have experience of people who have had<\/em> adverse events but haven\u2019t spoken up. And what I would say, on both counts, is: if you have an adverse event, please<\/em> report it, please<\/em> speak up. Don\u2019t<\/em> take no for an answer. For you<\/em>, and for others behind you. You know, you have the right<\/em>, and you should<\/em> stand up and say, \u201cThis isn\u2019t good enough, and I need<\/em> to report it, and you need to ensure that people are being held to account for this as well.\u201d<\/h4>\n

I think, for the second piece of that, so if people haven\u2019t got any effects and they\u2019re worried, then I would advise them to talk<\/em> to somebody. Don\u2019t sit in silence. Talk to somebody, talk it through, do your research. That\u2019s certainly what I would do, and I would encourage anybody else to do that as well.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: Well, that\u2019s extremely helpful, because of course in bringing these issues to light, we don\u2019t want to add to this overall stress and anxiety that people are suffering, and I can imagine that if you\u2019ve had a vaccine and then you are hearing about adverse effects, that could really be weighing on your mind.<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: Yes, of course.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: So I fully understand: what you\u2019re saying there is, do your research so that you are happy in your own mind.<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: Yes.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: Is there anything else you\u2019d like to add? What you\u2019ve given has been extremely interesting and informative.<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: No, I think the only thing I\u2019d like to add is: let\u2019s get talking to each other and supporting each other more. You know, let\u2019s move out of the fear place, and try and \u2014 I think a lot of people that have had the vaccines are sitting at home, they\u2019re scared and they\u2019re worried, they don\u2019t know what to do, and they\u2019re looking at the main news or they\u2019re looking at their NHS leaflet. And actually talking to people and getting support and looking at a wide variety of information is just so important for people, and it\u2019ll make them feel like they have more control about what happens to them, their body and their lives.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: And one thing that\u2019s come into my mind while you were talking there, so just allow me one very last one: what advice, or what would you say to your NHS colleagues, to encourage them to think about what\u2019s going on?<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: Honestly, what comes to mind is, \u201cYour children are next.\u201d And that is terrifying, and it makes me well up when I think about it. So if you won\u2019t<\/em> speak up because you\u2019ve had the vaccine, or you won\u2019t speak up because you\u2019re scared (I understand that), or you won\u2019t speak up because you don\u2019t want to lose your job (and I totally understand that), just know that this doesn\u2019t stop until we all stand up and say, \u201cStop.\u201d And we\u2019re getting younger and younger here now, and our time\u2019s running out.<\/h4>\n

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Brian Gerrish<\/strong>: Thank you very much for joining me, and it\u2019s been extremely helpful hearing the information that you\u2019ve got to put across. I know it\u2019s taken a lot of courage, so thank you very much.<\/h4>\n

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Whistleblower<\/strong>: Thank you.<\/h4>\n

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