{"id":212821,"date":"2020-08-31T07:06:18","date_gmt":"2020-08-31T07:06:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=212821"},"modified":"2020-09-02T06:55:04","modified_gmt":"2020-09-02T06:55:04","slug":"will-hillary-and-the-dems-get-the-civil-war-they-are-trying-to-provoke","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=212821","title":{"rendered":"Will Hillary and the Dems get the civil war they are trying to provoke?"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>The Saker \u2013 The Saker.is Aug 28, 2020<\/strong><\/h1>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: center;\">[this analysis was written <a href=\"https:\/\/www.unz.com\/tsaker\/will-hillary-and-the-dems-get-the-civil-war-they-are-trying-to-provoke\/\">for the Unz Review<\/a>]<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">If you have not already seen this, check out this video of Hillary Clinton stating that, quote, \u201c<em>Joe Biden should not concede under <\/em><strong><em>any<\/em><\/strong><em> circumstances<\/em>\u201c<\/span>:<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/44AbGEHhzg4\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><br \/>\n&#8212;<\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cAny\u201d means \u201cany\u201d.\u00a0 That would include the (admittedly hypothetical) case of Trump clearly winning in by landslide.\u00a0 Again, \u201cany\u201d means \u201cany\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The direct implications of that is that the Dems should re-take the White House by any and all means and under any and all circumstances.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">That is also a direct appeal to sabotage the US democracy which, as flawed as it is, is the only rule of law based option currently available to the people of the USA.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Will that result in a civil war?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">That is rather unlikely, because for a civil war you need to have at least two credible parties which can coordinate attacks and defensive operations on, at least, a regional scale.\u00a0 I don\u2019t see that in the USA.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">But I don\u2019t see how local\/regional violence (at times severe) and political chaos can be avoided.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">We already know that the Dems will never accept a Trump victory.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">We also know that the Trump supporters will claims that the USPS cannot be trusted with mail voting (I totally agree with them, the USPS is one of the worst postal services of any developed country on the planet).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Then there is the following issue: as police departments are \u201cdefunded\u201d and cops are resigning en masse (and I sure can\u2019t blame them!), simple citizens will have to increasingly protect themselves, which many of them can do, but the problem here is that <a style=\"color: #ccffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.unz.com\/mwhitney\/rittenhouse\/\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>these citizens are then charged while the surviving BLM and\/or Antifa thugs walk free<\/strong><\/span><\/a>, even if they attacked first.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">In some US states (like Florida, thank God for that!), the local Sheriffs will stand by their citizens and the local DAs will not prosecute those who used lethal force to defend themselves against a short list of forcible felonies (including home violations, carjackings, rapes, etc.).\u00a0 Just listen to this selection of FL sheriffs:<\/span><\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/LWCsKERUF5o\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/shUEy8NwrX0\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/eaqrsIVGH6w\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><br \/>\n&#8212;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">I have been a Florida resident since 18 years now and I can sincerely say that I don\u2019t recommend BLM\/Antifa try to loot or riot in Florida, because they will be met with a lot of force and a legal system which strongly favors the law abiding citizen, including in cases of self-defense.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">But in northern states?!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">So far, if I am not mistaken, most of the riots so far have taken place in northern states (Atlanta is in the south, but it is also not truly a \u201csouthern city\u201d since it is run by BLM\/Antifa sympathizers; the same could be said about Miami, FL, by the way).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">This is probably not a coincidence.\u00a0 And this has nothing to do with \u201csouthern racism\u201d (in my experience southerners are no more racist than northerners), but much more with a culture of self-defense, rooted in the land, which makes southern people much more likely to \u201ccircle the wagons\u201d and act together.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">And while I never bought the (rather silly) arguments that \u201cguns protect the people from tyranny\u201d (tyrants typically have <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">trained<\/span> and <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">professional<\/span> forces which can make minced meat of any armed civilians!), I do believe that armed citizens can very effectively stop rioting thugs (just remember how the Koreans of L.A. defended themselves and their stores during the L.A. riots).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Luckily, southern states are much more faithful to the US Constitution than those northern states which have \u201ccastrated\u201d the 2nd Amendment \u201cby a thousand (legislative) cuts\u201d (there are, exceptions, of course).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">This is not widely known, but in about 25%-30% or so of cases or armed robbery by thugs, their guns either don\u2019t work, or they are fake.\u00a0 Their ammo often sucks too (either bad condition, or completely inadequate).\u00a0 Why?\u00a0 Because criminals are too stupid and too cheap to invest in quality firearms and training.\u00a0 As a result, if BLM\/Antifa thugs try to storm a residential neighborhood or some small town in the South, they might be \u201cgreeted\u201d by a lot of very competent firepower.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">I think that it is pretty clear that the US deep state and the Dem Party are using BLM\/Antifa as footsoldiers to create chaos and prepare for even worse violence should Trump win.\u00a0 There are also <a style=\"color: #ccffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.zerohedge.com\/political\/i-dont-think-there-should-be-any-debates-says-pelosi-calling-them-exercise-skulduggery\">some signs<\/a> that the Dem leadership does not want to let the (totally senile) Joe Biden go against Trump in a debate.\u00a0 Here is an excerpt from a ZeroHedge report:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201c<em>I don\u2019t think that there should be any debates<\/em>,\u201d Pelosi said on Thursday, one day after President Trump demanded Biden take a drug test before the two square off. \u201c<em>I wouldn\u2019t legitimize a conversation with him \u2013 nor a debate in terms of the presidency of the United States<\/em>,\u201d she added. Pelosi said that Trump was \u201c<em>disgraceful<\/em>\u201d when he \u2018<em>stalked<\/em>\u2018 Hillary Clinton during the 2016 debate by walking near her, and that he will probably \u201c<em>act in a way that is beneath the dignity of the presidency<\/em>.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The message is clear: we do not recognize Trump as a legitimate opponent and should he win, this will be because of Chinese interference and\/or and Russian interference and\/or \u201cRepublican bullying\u201d (whatever that is supposed to mean).\u00a0 Bottom line: we will under no circumstances accept another defeat.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Dunno about you, but to me this sounds like sedition.\u00a0 Here is <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sedition\">how Wikipedia defines this concept<\/a><\/strong><\/span>:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong>Sedition<\/strong> is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that tends toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent toward, or resistance against, established authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel. A seditionist is one who engages in or promotes the interest of sedition.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">I don\u2019t see any evidence that Trump and\/or the GOP leadership are guilty of sedition, at least not inside their own country \u2013 outside, of course, they are currently the single most subversive force on the planet.\u00a0 In fact, I would argue that in spite of all the many major differences, Trump is facing a situation not dissimilar to what Lukashenko faces in Belarus.\u00a0 The biggest difference is that Trump is not backed by Putin.\u00a0 In fact, he is backed by nobody (besides <em>bone fide<\/em> <strong>nutcases<\/strong> like Jair Bolsonaro and Ivan Duque Marquez or cheap <strong>prostitutes<\/strong> like Andrzej Duda or Dalia Grybauskaite).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">I do see overwhelming evidence that the Clinton Gang &amp; the US deep state &amp; (pseudo-) \u201cliberal\u201d \u201celites\u201d are all guilty of sedition.\u00a0 As a result of this egging on of rioting thugs, things happen which would have been quite unthinkable just a year ago.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">For example: a US Senator and his wife almost got lynched by a mob just outside the White House.\u00a0 Is that even possible?\u00a0 Yes it is, see for yourself:<\/span><\/p>\n<div align=\"center\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/OFDx5qTlGjU\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><br \/>\n&#8212;<\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Friends, this is not Afghanistan or the Central African Republic.\u00a0 And a senator is one of the highest possible offices any man or woman can achieve.\u00a0 Yet in this country capital city, right outside the White House, cops were unable to protect a senator from a mob. Yet this is how the mainstream media presented this:\u00a0 \u201c<a style=\"color: #ccffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/news\/protesters-confront-rand-paul-breonna-taylor-rnc\/\"><em><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Protesters confront Rand Paul outside White House after Republican convention<\/strong><\/span><\/em><\/a>\u201c.\u00a0 Since when are criminal thugs who attempt to lynch a senator and his wife called \u201cprotesters\u201d?!\u00a0 And does \u201cconfront\u201d not suggest that Senator Paul somehow deserved to be \u201cconfronted\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Can you imagine what the media would have said if this had happened to a black senator?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Does this kind of mainstream \u201creporting\u201d not show that this country\u2019s political system is collapsing?<\/span><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Conclusion<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">I don\u2019t see a civil war happening in the US.\u00a0 But I do think that this country can, and probably will, break-up into different zones so to speak.\u00a0 In some regions, law and order will be maintained, by force is needed, while in others something new will appear: what the French call \u201c<em>des zones de non-droit<\/em>\u201c, meaning \u201careas of lawlessness\u201d in which law enforcement will be absent (either because the political leaders will refuse to engage them, or because they will simply have to withdraw under fire).\u00a0 Typically, such zones have a parallel \u201cblack\u201d economy which can make the gangs which control such zones very wealthy (think of Russia in the 1990s).\u00a0 Eventually, a lot of people will flee from such zones and seek refuge in the safer areas of the country (this process has already begun in New York).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Right now, there are a little over two months before the election, and I think that it is safe to say that the situation will deteriorate even faster and much worse.\u00a0 By November 2nd the country will be \u201cready\u201d (so to speak) for a massive explosion of violence followed by months of chaos.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Many will probably vote Trump just because they will (mistakenly) believe that he is the only politician who will stand against what the Dems promise to unleash against the majority of \u201cdeplorables\u201d who want to keep their country and traditions. \u00a0 At the core, the conflict we are now witnessing is a conflict about identity, something which most people deeply care about.\u00a0 Sooner or later, there will be push-back against the Dems attempt to turn the USA into some kind of obese transgender liberal Wakanda run by crooks, freaks and thugs.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The Dems won\u2019t get their civil war \u2013 but they will suffer the blowback for their attempts to destroy the United States.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The Saker<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/thesaker.is\/will-hillary-and-the-dems-get-the-civil-war-they-are-trying-to-provoke\/\">Source<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Saker explains why he thinks that Hillary Clinton and her allies could incite a new Civil War. 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