{"id":198370,"date":"2019-11-24T12:40:39","date_gmt":"2019-11-24T12:40:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=198370"},"modified":"2019-11-27T06:34:17","modified_gmt":"2019-11-27T06:34:17","slug":"prince-andrew-and-the-royal-crisis-how-the-firm-lost-its-grip","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=198370","title":{"rendered":"Prince Andrew and the royal crisis: how the Firm lost its grip"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\">Jamie Doward \u2013 The Guardian Nov 23, 2019<\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/Prince-Andrew-headlines.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-198373\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/Prince-Andrew-headlines.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"540\" height=\"468\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/Prince-Andrew-headlines.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/Prince-Andrew-headlines-300x260.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 540px) 100vw, 540px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Future historians may conclude that Prince Andrew\u2019s defining achievement was to gift the nation a new verb.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Following a tumultuous week when his car-crash interview shook the House of Windsor so vigorously it seemed its palaces were in danger of losing their crenellations, the Duke of York now finds himself banished from duties. His fate is the 21st-century equivalent of that which befell the difficult minor royals of previous eras who were locked up in asylums, away from the public gaze.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cPrince Andrew has been de-royaled, if there is such a word,\u201d said the historian and biographer <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.robertlacey.com\">Robert Lacey, an adviser to<\/a><\/strong><\/span> the acclaimed Netflix series <em>The Crown<\/em>. \u201cAt the risk of sounding melodramatic, I really would compare it to 1936 and the abdication of Edward VIII. What we are talking about is effectively the removal of a member of the royal family as a result of public opinion.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The duke can take some comfort from the knowledge that if he had been around a few hundred years ago, things could have been worse. \u201cOne can even compare it to 1649, when Charles I was executed,\u201d Lacey said. \u201cThis is a reminder that what was an institution of absolute power now depends ultimately on the consent and approval of the communities it seeks to represent, and <a style=\"color: #ccffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/uk\/prince-andrew\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Prince Andrew<\/strong><\/span><\/a> failed in this respect.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Arrogant, aloof and slow-witted, according to some who have encountered him, the duke\u2019s interview last weekend with <em>Newsnight<\/em>\u2019s Emily Maitlis is now seen as a textbook example of how not to conduct a damage-limitation exercise.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Perhaps he should have heeded the lessons of history. Princess Diana\u2019s bombshell <em>Panorama<\/em> confession did huge damage to the royal family. Prince Charles\u2019s decision to admit to adultery via a television interview greatly reduced his standing in the eyes of the public.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cAndrew is a bit of a plonker, everybody knows that,\u201d said one source close to the palace. \u201cThere\u2019s no way he should have been allowed to do that interview. They should have just sent him off to Australia. That would have been a bloody good idea. Out of sight, out of mind.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The duke\u2019s former adviser <a style=\"color: #ccffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/uk-news\/2019\/nov\/17\/who-were-the-main-players-behind-the-prince-andrew-interview\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Jason Stein, who resigned<\/strong><\/span><\/a> shortly before the broadcast after only a month in the job, was one rare voice who was opposed to the interview. But Andrew\u2019s private secretary, Amanda Thirsk, who has now been moved from her post, disagreed with Stein, seeing the interview as a chance for the duke to put some distance between him and his late friend, the disgraced sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Ultimately, the decision came down to the duke and, confident in his abilities to swing public opinion, he agreed to be interviewed. It was to prove a catastrophic example of hubris.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cWhat he has managed to do is achieve the worst of both worlds,\u201d one lawyer said. \u201cHe has done the interview, but he\u2019s left lots of things unanswered. And he has not given a coherent explanation of what happened.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">It appears Buckingham Palace was incapable of spotting the bear traps that the interview presented \u2013 a sign, according to insiders, of institutional decay. \u201cThere\u2019s a lack of discipline there at the moment,\u201d the source said. \u201cSir Christopher Geidt [the Queen\u2019s private secretary from 2007 to 2017] was a real steadying hand. But he\u2019s not there now.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Geidt, a battle-hardened former soldier, was seen as a good adviser to the monarch. \u201cHe had the measure of her,\u201d the source said.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Others who might have been prepared to speak truth to power are also long gone.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Two decades ago, as the royal family sought to modernise post-Diana, it brought in several sharp-witted outsiders, including former No 10 press adviser Colleen Harris and Mark Bolland, a PR executive, to act as troubleshooters. \u201cBut the family hated them,\u201d the source said. \u201cBecause they imposed quite a lot of discipline. I do think some of the staffing has gone a bit awry. They don\u2019t have people who can stand up to them now. They\u2019ve gone back to the Hooray Henrys who go \u2018yah, yah, yah\u2019 and don\u2019t confront them properly.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">This would not be such a problem if there was leadership at the top. But the Duke of Edinburgh is frail and has retired from the fray. The Queen is 93.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cThe royals are like most families,\u201d the source said. \u201cYou need a head of the family to step in \u2013 somebody tough and stern \u2013 who sorts it all out, but they don\u2019t have anyone at the moment. It\u2019s all sliding again. The Queen is just tired. It needs a stronger hand at the helm.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">From the Duke of Edinburgh\u2019s infamous car crash to the apparently growing divide between princes William and Harry, the royal family could be forgiven for wishing to see the back of 2019. That the Queen felt she had no choice but to sacrifice Andrew, whom many consider her favourite child, will have made it a particularly bleak year.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cThe circumstances suggest he may well have been her favourite,\u201d Lacey said. \u201cIt is well established that the Queen regretted that her early accession to the throne did not enable her to parent Charles and Anne as she would have liked, nor to enjoy the experience of having children. It\u2019s no secret that she and Prince Philip took the decision that they would like a second, younger family and Andrew was the first of those.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">That the Prince of Wales was heavily involved in the decision to excommunicate his brother is evidence of a monarchy in flux.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cThis will be seen as the moment that marks the transition from one reign to another, when <a style=\"color: #ccffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/uk\/prince-charles\">Prince Charles<\/a> clearly stepped in,\u201d Lacey said. \u201cAlthough Prince Andrew was allowed to say he jumped, he was in fact pushed. The royal family are absolutely ruthless when it comes to protecting the institution.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">But a monarchy in transition can be a fragile, fractious thing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cThe Prince of Wales has got his team,\u201d a royal source said. \u201cHe has always done his own thing, but now they are looking across the park and want more of a say, and this causes friction.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Lacey believes it is significant that the Prince of Wales was away on royal duties when the decision to use Buckingham Palace for the interview was taken.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cWith Prince Philip out of the scene, Prince Andrew had effectively become the man in charge of the palace,\u201d Lacey said. \u201cFrom the inquiries one can make, it is not really certain that the Queen gave her personal approval for the use of the palace.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The choice of location was both telling and a substantial error of judgment, according to Lacey.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cIn a way, it [the ensuing post-interview furore] is nothing to do at all with whatever Prince Andrew\u2019s relations were or were not with <strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/us-news\/jeffrey-epstein\">Jeffrey Epstein<\/a><\/strong>. It all starts with last Saturday night and a projection of his attitudes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cMost people do not feel they want to be represented by someone like that. It was made worse by his decision to use Buckingham Palace as a backdrop. It invited questions and confrontation. It went along with the lack of contrition in what he said, and in his tone.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">As it became apparent just how far Andrew\u2019s interview had backfired, the palace drafted a statement that it was hoped would paint the duke in a more empathetic light. Announcing his intention to stand down from public duties, the duke confirmed that he was willing \u201cto help any appropriate law enforcement agency with their investigations, if required\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">But, as with his television interview, the response raised more questions than it answered.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cHe\u2019s not committing to giving evidence to anyone who asks him. It\u2019s carefully caveated \u2013 deliberately so,\u201d said one legal expert who asked to remain anonymous. \u201cThe duke says \u2018if required\u2019 \u2013 so he\u2019s not prepared to do it voluntarily. It may well be a get-out. Epstein is dead, so there is not going to be a criminal prosecution of him. It may well be that law enforcement agencies are looking at prosecuting his associates involved in the trafficking of young women, but there may end up being no criminal prosecution.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Epstein\u2019s victims are pursuing civil damages claims against the financier\u2019s estate, but lawyers believe it is significant that the duke has not signalled any desire to help them by agreeing to provide a witness testimony. \u201cIf he\u2019s genuinely concerned about helping victims, he needs to commit to assisting those who are representing them, as they have called upon him to do,\u201d said Richard Scorer, a specialist in sexual abuse cases at the law firm Slater and Gordon. \u201cAt the moment, his statement doesn\u2019t include that.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">John Cooper QC, a barrister who knows about rehabilitating reputations, having sought to have the conviction of Dr Crippen overturned on the strength of new DNA evidence, suggested there was no reason why the duke would not accede to the lawyers\u2019 demands.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cHopefully, as a man of public duty, he would be quite content to help them,\u201d Cooper said.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_110050\" style=\"width: 370px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Prince-Andrew-firsr-met-Virginia-Roberts-in-London-in-2001-when-she-was-16.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-110050\" class=\"wp-image-110050\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Prince-Andrew-firsr-met-Virginia-Roberts-in-London-in-2001-when-she-was-16.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"360\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Prince-Andrew-firsr-met-Virginia-Roberts-in-London-in-2001-when-she-was-16.jpg 620w, https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Prince-Andrew-firsr-met-Virginia-Roberts-in-London-in-2001-when-she-was-16-300x187.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 360px) 100vw, 360px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-110050\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Virginia Giuffre (formerly Roberts) with Prince Andrew in London in 2001, when she was 16. Click to enlarge<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/uk-news\/2019\/sep\/06\/jeffrey-epstein-virginia-roberts-giuffre-prince-andrew-photo\">now notorious photograph<\/a><\/strong><\/span> of the duke with his arm around the waist of one of Epstein\u2019s teenage victims, Virginia Roberts, apparently taken in 2001 at the London mews home of Epstein\u2019s girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell, has been cited as evidence that he could provide valuable insight.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">But there are claims the photo is a fake. The duke used his <em>Newsnight <\/em>interview to say he had no recollection of it being taken, that he did not recall meeting Roberts, and to categorically deny having sex with her.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">In 2015 the Metropolitan Police conducted a review of \u201cavailable evidence\u201d after receiving a complaint over claims lodged in court papers that a girl \u2013 now known to be Roberts \u2013 was \u201cforced to have sex with Prince Andrew\u201d. But the Met decided that <a style=\"color: #ccffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.channel4.com\/news\/exclusive-met-police-decided-not-to-conduct-full-investigation-into-court-claims-of-sex-trafficking-of-girl-in-prince-andrew-photo\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>the matter \u201cwould not progress to a full investigation\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/a>, according to <em>Channel 4 News<\/em>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">That decision perplexes some in legal circles. Several experts spoken to by the <em>Observer<\/em> point out that, in 2015, Scotland Yard was throwing substantial resources into investigating claims of a Westminster paedophile ring. \u201cWhat was different about this claim?\u201d asked one.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">A spokeswoman for Scotland Yard told the <em>Observer<\/em>: \u201cWe acknowledge the considerable interest and concern around this case and have revisited that decision-making and believe it remains entirely appropriate. Therefore no further action is being taken. The Met will always take seriously any allegation concerning sexual exploitation.\u201d But until the duke provides testimony under oath, it is likely that the controversy surrounding the photo will continue to haunt him.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cCan the prince be compelled to give testimony under oath in a civil case?\u201d asked Dominique Penson, a New York-based attorney who has handled many sex abuse claims. \u201cThe answer is yes. If he\u2019s compelled to give a deposition, they are taken under oath.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Penson has served subpoenas on witnesses in European countries compelling them to give depositions for cases heard in the US, using a supranational legal mechanism called the Hague Treaty.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cHe could be served with a subpoena,\u201d Penson said. \u201cHe would not be compelled to come back here to give testimony but he could provide sworn testimony in the UK.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Lawyers may also want to obtain documents that confirm the duke\u2019s whereabouts on key dates. He was provided with a security detail who were supposed to keep logs of his movements and carry out risk assessments of people he met. Do they exist and if so where are they?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">With his television interview and his subsequent statement leaving so many unanswered questions, it seems that the spectre of Epstein will loom large over the duke for years to come \u2013 years in which an enfeebled monarchy will attempt to redefine itself under a new king.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">But it may be that the duke is now beyond rehabilitation.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cI suppose he could try to do a Mother Teresa \u2013 or the classic example is John Profumo, who is generally said to have redeemed himself,\u201d Lacey said. \u201cBut it would have to be a pretty massive and visible act of redemption for people to say \u2018ah yes, well, we\u2019d love to have Prince Andrew as our patron\u2019. And I simply can\u2019t see that.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/uk-news\/2019\/nov\/23\/prince-andrew-royal-crisis-firm-lost-grip\">Source <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Prince Andrew\u2019s \u201ccar crash interview\u201d has been compared to Princess Diana\u2019s bombshell Panorama confession, which did huge damage to the royal family<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":39262,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[61,67],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-198370","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-Commentary","category-The_Rotten_Royals"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/198370","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/39262"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=198370"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/198370\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":198375,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/198370\/revisions\/198375"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=198370"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=198370"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=198370"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}