{"id":188020,"date":"2019-05-08T04:28:43","date_gmt":"2019-05-08T04:28:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=188020"},"modified":"2019-05-10T04:38:41","modified_gmt":"2019-05-10T04:38:41","slug":"laying-down-the-law-in-uks-antisemitism-row","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=188020","title":{"rendered":"Laying Down the LAW in UK\u2019s Antisemitism Row"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\">Ian Fantom \u2013May 5, 2019<\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/law_agm_gregson_case.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-188022\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/law_agm_gregson_case-768x405.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"540\" height=\"285\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/law_agm_gregson_case-768x405.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/law_agm_gregson_case-300x158.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/law_agm_gregson_case.jpg 943w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 540px) 100vw, 540px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">In what must be one of the most bizarre incidents so far in the current antisemitism witch-hunt in the UK\u2019s labour movement, a member has been expelled for a tenuous link with a \u2018Holocaust denier\u2019, even though he himself strenuously believes in the Holocaust story, and the article he linked to expresses no views on the Holocaust, and only refers in passing to a witch-hunt against the \u2018Holocaust denier\u2019. And the body involved is none other than Labour Against the Witch-hunt (LAW).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Peter Gregson has been a campaigner against the adoption of the new IHRA definition of \u2018antisemitism\u2019 in the Labour Party and in his trades union, the GMB. This got him expelled from the GMB and suspended from the Labour Party. Opposition to the IHRA definition of \u2018antisemitism\u2019 is one of <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.labouragainstthewitchhunt.org\/about\/\">LAW\u2019s founding principles<\/a><\/strong><\/span>, and LAW supported him.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">At his appeal in the London office of the GMB on 4 March 2019, he was supported by Tony Greenstein, a founder member of LAW, and by Rabbi Ahron Cohen, who had given a <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.tinyurl.com\/gmbihra\">talk on video<\/a><\/strong><\/span>, explaining why criticism of Israel should not be conflated with \u2018antisemitism\u2019. Outside the GMB office in Euston, London, there was a small group of supporters, including Stan Keable, Secretary of LAW, and some people from the Revolutionary Communists Group. I myself was there since on hearing of Peter Gregson\u2019s case I had invited him to give a talk to my group, Keep Talking, and rescheduled our meeting so that he could give it whilst in London, following his hearing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Peter Gregson gave his talk the title \u2018The Loss of Freedom of Speech on Israel, thanks to bogus anti-Semitism claims\u2019, and he posted a <a style=\"color: #ccffff;\" href=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/ihratalk\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>video of the talk<\/strong><\/span><\/a> on his YouTube channel, and I posted a copy on <a style=\"color: #ccffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/ianfantom\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>my own YouTube channel<\/strong><\/span><\/a>, too. In the meantime, I had published an analysis of the Complete Diaries of Theodor Herzl and related the methods advocated by Theodor Herzl with the antisemitism row in the Labour Party. I wrote that article in the belief that if these facts became widely known in the labour movement, they would torpedo such fake antisemitism campaigns. The most likely group to get this out in the Labour Party, I thought, would be Labour Against the Witch-hunt (LAW).<\/span><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>What\u2019s wrong with these people?<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Amongst Peter Gregson\u2019s writings was a <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.change.org\/p\/to-chair-of-labour-s-nec-andy-kerr-labour-members-declaring-israel-is-a-racist-endeavour-call-on-nec-to-abandon-full-ihra\/u\/24328623\">petition update<\/a><\/strong><\/span> in Change.org, which included a paragraph: \u201cAlso see the article \u2018UK\u2019s Labour Antisemitism Split\u2019 by <a style=\"color: #ccffff;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.unz.com\/article\/uks-labour-antisemitism-split\/\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Ian Fantom here<\/strong><\/span><\/a>. Ian organised the Keep Talking group that filmed my talk in the last but one update. (But I must say I think the Kollerstrom article he mentions is quite toxic)\u201d. For that, he was banned from the \u2018unofficial\u2019 \u2013 and only \u2013 Facebook page of Labour Against the Witch-hunt by founder member and Vice-President of LAW Tony Greenstein. Later Peter Gregson wrote to me: \u201cThe saga continues&#8230; I\u2019ve been expelled from the \u2018Zionism is Racism \u2013 Scotland Stand Up\u2019 coalition for posting your article, Ian. Gosh .. what is wrong with these people?\u201d Eventually he went public with the correspondence, and the Jewish Chronicle published a write-up headed <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">\u2018<a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.thejc.com\/news\/uk-news\/emails-reveal-row-within-labour-against-the-witchhunt-over-member-s-support-for-holocaust-denier-1.483088\">Emails reveal row within Labour Against The Witchhunt over memberHYPERLINK &#8220;https:\/\/www.thejc.com\/news\/uk-news\/emails-reveal-row-within-labour-against-the-witchhunt-over-member-s-support-for-holocaust-denier-1.483088&#8243;&#8216;HYPERLINK &#8220;https:\/\/www.thejc.com\/news\/uk-news\/emails-reveal-row-within-labour-against-the-witchhunt-over-member-s-support-for-holocaust-denier-1.483088&#8243;s support for Holocaust denier: Pete Gregson insisted denier Nick Kollerstrom was \u201cHolocaust sceptic\u201d, and was condemned by fellow LAW member Tony Greenstein<\/a><\/span>\u2019.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">So what was so terrible about my article, referred to by Peter Gregson? Its full title was \u2018<a style=\"color: #ccffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.unz.com\/article\/uks-labour-antisemitism-split\/\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>UK\u2019s Labour Antisemitism Split: Just what the Doctor Prescribed<\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>\u2019<\/strong><\/span>? Until 1960 only sanitised versions of his diaries had been published, according to Herzl\u2019s wishes. When the Complete Diaries was published it remained obscure, until recently when it was posted on the Internet. Now it is clear that Herzl was actually advocating a resurgence in antisemitism against the \u2018poor Jews\u2019 in order to advance the cause of a military invasion of Palestine sponsored by the \u2018rich Jews\u2019. Such an engineered resurgence is in evidence today, and furthermore, Herzl\u2019s antagonism towards democracy and Socialism illustrates how the \u2018poor Jews\u2019 were being used when they en masse supported democratic and Socialist causes. A return to Socialism under Jeremy Corbyn, following Tony Blair\u2019s \u2018Third Way\u2019, would not be tolerated. Membership in Parliament of Labour Friends of Israel was declining, and that, I was suggesting, was behind the current witch-hunt in today\u2019s Labour Party.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The paragraph that Tony Greenstein was using to denounce Peter Gregson was in the context of explaining the history and purpose of Keep Talking, which had invited Peter Gregson to talk about his experiences. The paragraph ran: \u201cThe focus of our group had not been on Israel or Zionism, and we tacitly agreed amongst ourselves not to deal with the Holocaust issue, because that was so taboo in the UK that any onslaught from the Zionist lobby could completely derail us from our main topic, which was false-flag terrorism and causes of wars. In fact, my colleague, Dr Nick Kollerstrom, author of many investigative books, including \u2018<a style=\"color: #ccffff;\" href=\"http:\/\/terroronthetube.co.uk\/\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Terror on the Tube<\/strong><\/span><\/a>\u2019, had been targeted in a witch-hunt for a literature review he wrote on \u2018<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/codoh.com\/library\/document\/684\/\">The Auschwitz \u201cGas Chamber\u201d Illusion<\/a>\u2019<\/strong><\/span> and a comment about a swimming pool at Auschwitz since deleted. I defended Nick Kollerstrom\u2019s right to investigate that topic, and to write about it freely, though I myself had no knowledge of the topic, and so no views on it. That was the seminal incident that led to Keep Talking being set up.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">I myself at the time was taken aback at Nick Kollerstrom\u2019s writings on this topic, since I had no knowledge of the Leuchter Report, the Rudolf Report, of Ernst Z\u00fcndel, or Robert Faurisson, or any of the writers on the Holocaust listed in the website of the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust (CODOH) other than David Irving, whose name I knew only because of his trial and imprisonment, as reported widely in the mainstream media.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">One of the sponsors of LAW is Professor Noam Chomsky, and I came across an article of his titled \u2018<a style=\"color: #ccffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/codoh.com\/library\/document\/2146\/?lang=en%5D\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>All Denials of Free Speech Undercut A Democratic Society<\/strong><\/span><\/a>\u2019, in which he defended Professor Robert Faurisson\u2019s rights after he had denied the existence of gas chambers. Chomsky wrote: \u201cHe was then brought to trial for \u2018falsification of history,\u2019 and condemned \u2013 the first time in the West, to my knowledge, that the courts have affirmed the familiar Stalinist-fascist doctrine that the State has the right to determine historical truth and to punish deviation from it\u201d. In response to a query on why he had signed a petition defending Faurisson\u2019s rights, he wrote: \u201cI went on to inform Ms. Dawidowicz that I knew very little about Faurisson&#8217;s work so that while it may be \u2018horrendous,\u2019 as claimed by his critics, I obviously could not comment. &#8230; Furthermore, as I wrote to Ms. Dawidowicz, the nature of his views is, plainly, completely irrelevant to the issue of his right to express them, a truism among civil libertarians that those of a Stalinist-fascist persuasion find quite shocking\u201d. I have only recently become aware of this material, and only because of the verbal assaults on Nick Kollerstrom and Keep Talking which seem to be coming from a network of groups associated with what has become known as the \u2018Israel lobby\u2019.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Despite this, the Jewish Chronicle wrote, \u201cIn that article, Mr Fathom writes approvingly of Dr Nick Kollerstrom \u2013 author of <em>The Auschwitz \u2018Gas Chamber\u2019 Illusion\u201d. <\/em>This is, of course, misleading, since it conflates approval of Nick\u2019s character with approval of his views on gas chambers. My line, as I subsequently discovered, was the same as Noam Chomsky\u2019s as regards freedom of speech. The link between Peter Gregson\u2019s writing and Nick Kollerstrom\u2019s article was so tenuous that any thinking person must be wondering about the real reason behind it. The demand made by Tony Greenstein to Peter Gregson was: \u201cI must ask you to remove all references to Ian Fantom\u2019s article from your petition update which directs people to Kollerstrom\u2019s holocaust denial article on the website of the well-known Holocaust denial site CODOH\u201d. If that was the case with Peter Gregson\u2019s writing, then it was also true of the Jewish Chronicle\u2019s article, which linked to Peter Gregson\u2019s petition update, which linked to my article, which linked to Nick Kollerstrom\u2019s article. Of course, it\u2019s getting sillier and sillier, and I think that in this study we have homed in on where that silliness is coming from.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">I think the real reason for wanting to discourage people in the labour movement from linking to my article is self-evident. I had exposed in some detail the blatant contradiction between the fundamentals of Zionism, as laid out by Theodor Herzl, and the ideals of the UK\u2019s Labour Party. Once that article gets circulated within the labour movement, the fake antisemitism movement is dead. That is the real danger to these people, and ad hominem attacks on the basis of tenuous links to \u2018Holocaust deniers\u2019 can only undermine their own disingenuous campaigning when people see just what they are doing.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>The ultimate irony<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Then on 28 April 2019, Peter Gregson posted an update to his petition on Change.org, in which he reported that the <a style=\"color: #ccffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.change.org\/p\/to-chair-of-labour-s-nec-andy-kerr-labour-members-declaring-israel-is-a-racist-endeavour-call-on-nec-to-abandon-full-ihra\/u\/24484355\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Steering Committee of Labour Against the Witch-hunt were proposing to <\/strong><\/span>expell<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong> him<\/strong><\/span><\/a> at a meeting on 4 May. The reason given was \u201cPeter Gregson\u2019s refusal to distance himself from the Holocaust denier Nick Kollerstrom\u201d. They describe that as \u201cthe last straw<\/span>\u201d,<span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"> as if they had already given other reasons, which they hadn\u2019t. From Peter Gregson\u2019s text, it appears that the driving force behind that proposal was Tony Greenstein, whom Peter Gregson described as the \u2018king\u2019 in the association. I wrote to Peter Gregson, saying that for me the most shocking and perturbing experience in the witch-hunt against me in the Esperanto association was the way that the membership as a whole unthinkingly backed the \u2018king\u2019, and that, I suggested, was a common feature to watch out for in any movement where there is a \u2018king\u2019. I also pointed out that one could play the same game against Tony Greenstein. Perhaps he could answer <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.paulbogdanor.com\/antisemitism\/greenstein\/questions.html\">a question posed by Michael Ezra<\/a><\/strong><\/span> on Paul Bogdanor\u2019s blog site: &#8220;Can Tony Greenstein explain a little more about why he has referred to Alfred Lilienthal as a \u2018reputable historian,\u2019 despite the fact that, as Greenstein admits, Lilienthal has questioned the authenticity of <em>The Diary of Anne Frank<\/em>, and in 1980 Lilienthal was one of the first signatories to a petition supporting the known Holocaust denier Robert Faurisson?&#8221;. I also suggested: \u201cAt the very least, it seems that Tony Greenstein is hypocritical. If he were to be nominated for expulsion, then I think his defence would be the same as yours!\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">A further irony is that Jackie Walker, who at the meeting called for Peter Gregson\u2019s expulsion, had herself accepted an invitation to talk to Keep Talking, but when we realised that her talk to us would be before her Labour Party hearing and that if any \u2018Holocaust denier\u2019 were to turn up at our meeting, she could be vulnerable, we suggested to her that it may be wise to postpone her talk. Jackie Walker thanked us for that advice and agreed. LAW had just produced a documentary film \u2018<a style=\"color: #ccffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/witchhuntfilm.org\/\">Witchhunt<\/a>\u2019, which I thought was excellent, even if it did, towards the end, focus on the Palestinian issue rather than the Labour Party.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">A <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hmd.org.uk\/news\/we-release-research-to-mark-holocaust-memorial-day-2019\/%5D\">recent opinion poll <\/a><\/strong><\/span>concluded that 5% of the population doesn\u2019t believe that the Holocaust happened, and that a further 8% believe the scale of the Holocaust to be exaggerated, and that 19% believe fewer than two million Jews were murdered. This means that any random group of people there is a 13% probability, or possibly a 19% probability, that any individual could be labeled as a \u2018Holocaust denier\u2019, and that any group of any significant size, whether it be a local tennis club, or operatic society, or church congregation, would almost certainly contain at least one \u2018Holocaust denier\u2019. If one goes further, by denigrating anyone who has linked to someone who linked to a \u2018Holocaust denier\u2019, then quite simply they could denigrate virtually anyone in the way they had denigrated Peter Gregson.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The voting on Tony Greenstein\u2019s proposal to expel Peter Gregson was: 20 in favour, 9 against and 8 abstentions. The large number of abstentions suggests that the case had not been clear-cut and that the idea of \u2018innocent until proved guilty\u2019 was not universally accepted. The \u2018king\u2019 effect that I had referred to would almost certainly have meant that had someone higher in the pecking order than Tony Greenstein spoken out against the motion the vote would have gone the other way. Their President, Mach\u00e9 Machover abstained, and their sponsor Noam Chomsky did not reply to an appeal by Peter Gregson, nor to a request by myself to comment on Peter Gregson\u2019s case, in the light of his defence in his own case. So now that they have expelled Peter Gregson, one has to wonder why they have not also expelled Tony Greenstein and Noam Chomsky for the same reason.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Labour Against Zionist Islamophobic Racism (LAZIR)<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The following day, Peter Gregson stayed in London for the launch of a new group, Labour Against Zionist Islamophobic Racism (LAZIR), but beforehand, he wrote to me: \u201cAfter being expelled from LAW, it\u2019s going to be a battle to get folk to take this seriously\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">I know the problem, as does anyone who has genuinely been the target of a witch-hunt. Yet that is all the more reason for persistence. As regards LAW itself, it would be difficult to think of anything more damaging to their cause than for them to behave in exactly the way the Labour Party has been behaving in running witch-hunts against people they want out. I think this case demonstrates that no group that goes against the will of The Powers That Be can be immune from such undermining.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Labour Against the Witchhunt was founded in October 2017 to oppose the purge of pro-Corbyn supporters in the Labour Party. They have <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.labouragainstthewitchhunt.org\/about\/%5D\">three main aims<\/a><\/strong><\/span>, the first of which is: \u201cThe Labour Party must end the practice of automatic, instant, expulsion or suspension of Labour Party members\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Following the foundation of Labour Against Zionist Islamophobic Racism (LAZIR), Peter Gregson wrote to me: \u201cThe launch went well; I have filmed it. There were about 10 of us there. Interviews and such like. That will go on You-tube soon. The best thing was that the RT journalist came and they want to do 15 minutes on Skype with me on their TV channel. That is the jackpot!\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The issue, in this case, is clearly not the Holocaust, or even antisemitism; it can only be an attempt to suppress the real agenda of Theodor Herzl, which he himself wanted suppressed until after the establishment of the Jewish State. Theodor Herzl is effectively the Patron Saint of Israel, and so his thinking is of primary importance to the Israel lobby today. Peter Gregson\u2019s real crime was not to promote ideas of \u2018Holocaust denial\u2019, but to draw attention to my article about Theodor Herzl and today\u2019s Labour Party antisemitism row.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>How Zionists are silencing criticism of Israel and purging Britain\u2019s main opposition Labour Party of anyone who speaks out against Zionism <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":39262,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[37],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-188020","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-Israel_Anti-Semitism_Zionism_and_US-UK_allies"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/188020","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/39262"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=188020"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/188020\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":188027,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/188020\/revisions\/188027"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=188020"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=188020"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=188020"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}