{"id":185925,"date":"2019-03-29T08:10:09","date_gmt":"2019-03-29T08:10:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=185925"},"modified":"2022-03-01T16:45:59","modified_gmt":"2022-03-01T16:45:59","slug":"many-reasons-to-believe-prozorovs-testimony-about-ukraines-role-in-downing-mh-17","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=185925","title":{"rendered":"Many Reasons to Believe Prozorov\u2019s Testimony About Ukraine\u2019s Role in Downing MH-17"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\">Whitney Webb \u2013 Mint Press March 27, 2019<\/h1>\n<div id=\"attachment_100979\" style=\"width: 550px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/MH17-crash-site.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-100979\" class=\"wp-image-100979\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/MH17-crash-site.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"540\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/MH17-crash-site.jpg 675w, https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/MH17-crash-site-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 540px) 100vw, 540px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-100979\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Wreckage of MH-17. Click to enlarge<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">A former top official in Ukraine\u2019s Security Service (SBU), who recently fled the country, has given explosive testimony regarding the involvement of the Ukrainian government in the 2014 downing of the MH-17 passenger plane. The incident, which killed all 283 passengers and 15 flight crew members on board, had been blamed on Russia by Ukraine\u2019s government, the United States and much of Western media.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">In addition, the former official, Vasily Prozorov, <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=4g4V7mLi6ZA\">told a group<\/a><\/strong><\/span> of international reporters that Ukraine\u2019s controversial Azov Battalion, known for its Neo-Nazi ideology and symbolism, ran and maintained secret prisons in contested areas of Eastern Ukraine where there is fighting between pro-government forces and pro-Russian separatists. Prozorov, who has sought asylum in Russia, also accused the United States and the United Kingdom of training an SBU division that returned to Ukraine to conduct terrorist attacks in the Donbass region, which has been the site of a civil war since the overthrow of Ukraine\u2019s government in 2014 in a U.S.-backed coup.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Prozorov\u2019s identity was kept secret until the press conference began, in breaking with standard protocol. Prozorov then introduced himself, stating that he had been employed by the SBU from 1999 to 2018, but \u2014 after the U.S.-backed coup in 2014 \u2014 had contacted Russian intelligence and began working undercover in the central office of the SBU. He does not describe himself as a defector, as he stated that his allegiance remains with the Ukrainian people while the allegiance of those who came to power with U.S. assistance in 2014 has long been suspect.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Prozorov then noted that, soon after the coup and before the civil war between Western and Eastern Ukraine had begun, the SBU \u2014 at Kiev\u2019s behest \u2014 had begun to plan combat operations in the East and that the government had requested that plans be made that would result in mass civilian deaths among ethnic Russian populations, who were to be labeled as \u201caccomplices to terrorists.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The former SBU officer also detailed how the post-coup SBU had established secret prisons where prominent dissidents of the U.S.-backed government were interrogated, tortured and even killed. One of those prisons, located at an airstrip in Mariupol, was nicknamed \u201cthe Library\u201d and Prozorov compared it to a \u201cconcentration camp\u201d and showed images of severely beaten detainees he claimed had been imprisoned at the site. The former SBU officer also stated that SBU\u2019s decisions, in regards to the black-site prisons and other areas, were often \u201cled\u201d by foreign advisers from the United States and the United Kingdom. The SBU\u2019s use of torture in Ukraine\u2019s civil war has been <a style=\"color: #ccffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/consortiumnews.com\/2016\/06\/13\/mh-17-probe-trusts-torture-implicated-ukraine\/\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>well-documented<\/strong><\/span><\/a> even though the SBU blocked UN efforts to probe its extent.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">In addition, Prozorov asserted that the <a style=\"color: #ccffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.mintpressnews.com\/fbi-neo-nazi-militia-trained-by-us-military-in-ukraine-now-training-us-white-supremacists\/251687\/\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Neo-Nazi Azov Battalion<\/strong><\/span><\/a>, a militia that was <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rt.com\/news\/439192-azov-battalion-memorial-lichtdom\/\">incorporated<\/a><\/strong><\/span> into Ukraine\u2019s Interior Ministry as a component of the country\u2019s National Guard, also operates its own prisons in the Anti-Terrorist Operation (ATO) zones in Eastern Ukraine. The Azov Battalion receives funding from the <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rt.com\/news\/439192-azov-battalion-memorial-lichtdom\/\">government of Ukraine<\/a><\/strong><\/span> as well as from <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.thenation.com\/article\/congress-has-removed-a-ban-on-funding-neo-nazis-from-its-year-end-spending-bill\/\">the U.S.<\/a><\/strong><\/span> government and has also received weapons from the<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/therealnews.com\/stories\/israel-is-arming-ukraines-blatantly-neo-nazi-militia-the-azov-battalion\"> Israeli government<\/a><\/strong><\/span>.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">Insights into the MH-17 downing<\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Prozorov\u2019s <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"http:\/\/tass.com\/world\/1050324\">most shocking statements<\/a><\/strong><\/span> were related to the 2014 downing of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17, or MH-17, which was promptly blamed on Russia by the post-coup Ukrainian government, the United States and much of the Western world. Prozorov stated, noting first that it was his personal opinion based on his experiences, that the Ukrainian government had been an \u201caccomplice to the Malaysian MH-17 flight disaster.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">He continued, stating:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The amazingly prompt reaction of the Ukrainian leadership was the first thing that made me feel suspicious. My unequivocal opinion was President Pyotr Poroshenko and his press-service had prior knowledge of the affair. Secondly, hostilities had been underway for several months by then, but the airspace over the area was not closed.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">He also noted that his efforts to learn more about the circumstances of the disaster within the SBU from a senior officer were met with the following reply: \u201cDon\u2019t poke your nose into this business, if you don\u2019t wish to have problems.\u201d However, Prozorov noted that \u201csome information has leaked out in the end, though.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">He then concluded:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">On the basis of my own analysis I can speculate who was an accomplice in the crime and who was involved in concealing evidence. In my opinion, there were two men involved \u2013 the current deputy chief of the Ukrainian presidential staff Valery Kondratyuk and chief of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry\u2019s intelligence directorate, Vasyl Burba.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_185926\" style=\"width: 550px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Valery-Kondratyuk-and-Vasily-Burba.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-185926\" class=\"wp-image-185926\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Valery-Kondratyuk-and-Vasily-Burba-1024x689.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"540\" height=\"363\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Valery-Kondratyuk-and-Vasily-Burba-1024x689.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Valery-Kondratyuk-and-Vasily-Burba-300x202.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Valery-Kondratyuk-and-Vasily-Burba-768x517.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Valery-Kondratyuk-and-Vasily-Burba.jpg 1400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 540px) 100vw, 540px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-185926\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Valery Kondratyuk, left and Vasily Burba, right. Click to enlarge<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Prozorov\u2019s full conference can be watched <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=U5yAVxe300U\">here<\/a><\/strong><\/span> (in Russian). A summary with English subtitles can be watched <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=4g4V7mLi6ZA\">here<\/a><\/strong><\/span>.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">Claims well-supported by independent reporting<\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Though some may be quick to dismiss Prozorov\u2019s testimony as \u201cRussian propaganda,\u201d many of his claims fit with independent reporting on the Ukrainian conflict. For instance, in regard to Prozorov\u2019s claim of \u201cblack site\u201d prisons, the SBU <a style=\"color: #ccffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ohchr.org\/EN\/NewsEvents\/Pages\/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=20017&amp;LangID=E\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>denied<\/strong><\/span><\/a> the UN access in 2016 to many detention centers in Mariupol \u2014 where Prozorov says \u201cthe Library\u201d prison is located \u2014 and Kramatorsk. The SBU claimed that it blocked the UN inspectors access in order to protect \u201cgovernment secrets.\u201d The UN had first tried to access the areas after several human-rights groups had found credible evidence of torture taking place at facilities in the area.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Prozorov\u2019s claims that the post-coup SBU had made plans to murder ethnic Russians in the Donbass are also supported by publicly available evidence. For instance, when the civil war began, the Kiev-based government stated its intention to specifically target civilians in order \u201c<a style=\"color: #ccffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=l17KfjtaqpA\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>to clean the cities<\/strong><\/span><\/a><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>.<\/strong><\/span>\u201d In 2016, then-Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk, who has been called \u201cWashington\u2019s man in Ukraine,\u201d called pro-Russian civilians in the region \u201c<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"http:\/\/usa.mfa.gov.ua\/en\/press-center\/news\/24185-mi-uvichnimo-pamjaty-gerojiv-ochistivshi-nashu-zemlyu-vid-nechistiarsenij-jacenyuk-u-spivchutti-ridnim-i-blizykim-zagiblih-vojiniv-u-lugansyku\">subhumans<\/a><\/strong><\/span>.\u201d In an interview aired by the U.S.-funded, pro-government Ukrainian news channel <em>Hromadske TV<\/em>, a Ukrainian journalist aligned with the government <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=S9SOVarOFJk\">asserted that<\/a><\/strong><\/span> the contested region was home to 1.5 million people \u201cwho are superfluous\u201d and \u201cmust be exterminated.\u201d With such sentiments having been openly stated by prominent politicians and journalists aligned with the current government in Kiev, Prozorov\u2019s assertions seem hardly unreasonable.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_185928\" style=\"width: 550px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Cia-Director-meets-Vsily-Burba.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-185928\" class=\"wp-image-185928\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Cia-Director-meets-Vsily-Burba.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"540\" height=\"375\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Cia-Director-meets-Vsily-Burba.jpg 751w, https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Cia-Director-meets-Vsily-Burba-300x208.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 540px) 100vw, 540px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-185928\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">US Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, Robert Ashley, right, meets with Vasyl Burba, Chief of the Defense Intelligence of Ukraine. Photo | Defence Intelligence of Ukraine. Click to enlarge<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">In regard to Ukraine\u2019s alleged role in the downing of MH-17, it is worth noting that past reports by late American investigative journalist Robert Parry <a style=\"color: #ccffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/consortiumnews.com\/2016\/06\/13\/mh-17-probe-trusts-torture-implicated-ukraine\/\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>described in detail<\/strong><\/span><\/a> how the \u201cindependent\u201d MH-17 investigation was almost completely dependent on information from Ukraine\u2019s SBU in piecing together the event. According to Parry:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">[This control by the SBU, combined with its past obstruction of the UN torture probe],suggests that the SBU also would steer the JIT away from any evidence that might implicate a unit of the Ukrainian military in the shoot-down, a situation that would be regarded as a state secret which could severely undermine international support for the U.S.-backed regime in Kiev. Among the SBU\u2019s official duties is the protection of Ukrainian government secrets.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">In addition, one of Parry\u2019s sources maintained that the CIA had, like Prozorov, found evidence that Ukraine\u2019s government had indeed been \u201can accomplice\u201d to the MH-17 incident:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">A source who was briefed by U.S. intelligence analysts told me that the CIA\u2019s conclusion pointed toward a rogue Ukrainian operation involving a hard-line oligarch with the possible motive of shooting down Russian President Vladimir Putin\u2019s official plane returning from South America that day, with similar markings as MH-17. The source said a Ukrainian warplane ascertained that the plane was not Putin\u2019s but the attack went ahead anyway, with the assumption that the tragedy would be blamed on the pro-Russian rebels or on Russia directly.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Another reason Prozorov\u2019s testimony should not be outright dismissed as propaganda is the fact that he pushed back on previous Russian media reports involving U.S. infiltration of the SBU. When asked by a reporter if he could confirm reports that foreign military officials, including Americans, occupied their own floor at SBU headquarters, Prozorov adamantly denied those claims, stating that after 2005 there were CIA officials present in SBU headquarters but that the practice had been discontinued. He stated that U.S. intelligence officials regularly visited SBU headquarters after the 2014 coup but were not based in the building.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Thus, while Prozorov\u2019s testimony will likely be dismissed by mainstream Western media outlets and Western governments that support Kiev, there is plenty of evidence suggesting that many of his claims \u2014 including his most shocking \u2014 deserve careful consideration, not outright dismissal. Indeed, were Prozorov a defector from a country currently at odds with the U.S. \u2014 be it Russia, Venezuela or Iran \u2014 it is highly likely that mainstream media would repeat and his promote his claims regardless of their veracity. However, because he has sought asylum in Russia, his recent statements are unlikely to gain international traction merely because of where he is now located, in spite of the evidence supporting many of those statements.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong><em>Whitney Webb<\/em><\/strong><em> is a MintPress News journalist based in Chile. She has contributed to several independent media outlets including Global Research, EcoWatch, the Ron Paul Institute and 21st Century Wire, among others. She has made several radio and television appearances and is the 2019 winner of the Serena Shim Award for Uncompromised Integrity in Journalism.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.mintpressnews.com\/reasons-believe-vasily-prozorov-testimony-ukraine-role-downing-mh-17\/256642\/\">Source<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Whitney Webb reveals there is evidence to back the former Ukrainian intelligence officer&#8217;s claims about the downing of MH-17<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":39262,"featured_media":100979,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[94,116],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-185925","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-malaysian-airlines-mh17","category-ukraine"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/185925","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/39262"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=185925"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/185925\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":185949,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/185925\/revisions\/185949"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/100979"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=185925"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=185925"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=185925"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}