{"id":176749,"date":"2018-09-25T04:53:42","date_gmt":"2018-09-25T04:53:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=176749"},"modified":"2018-09-27T03:54:40","modified_gmt":"2018-09-27T03:54:40","slug":"russian-disinfo-campaign-blames-israel-for-il-20-plane-downing-yet-exonerates-france","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=176749","title":{"rendered":"Russian Disinfo Campaign Blames Israel for IL-20 Plane Downing, Yet Exonerates France"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\">Joaquin Flores &#8212; Fort Russ News Sept 19, 2018<\/h1>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong>Russia appears to be involved in an appropriate and strategically prudent disinformation campaign to avoid any further irreparable damage in Franco-Russian relations.<\/strong> FRN will analyze why it is most probable that France took down the Russian Il-20 military aircraft, and not the SAA air defense systems as first Israeli, and then Russian media have today begun to officially report.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">It will be critical of course to establish the key necessities in making the case. <strong>Means, motive, and opportunity.<\/strong> Once these are established, we then proceed to establishing that this is the most probable case even as others had one, two, or even all three of these and this will be done in part by countering some of the nevertheless intelligent but imperfect reasoning now being printed regarding possible theories. In general, the pro-Russian media sphere is at this time \u2018following up\u2019 on the quite recent Russian official pronouncements that the SAA themselves accidentally shot down the Il-20, even while nominally blaming Israel and naming it \u2018responsible\u2019 for the incident.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">What the Russians claim is that Israeli craft using the Il-20 for cover \u2018confused\u2019 the SAA system and that the SAA system hit the Russian Il-20. We will explain that while this is possible, it is unlikely, and in fact the least likely of any realistic scenarios given the tremendous preparation and planning that goes into these events.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Why France?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The US wants to further damage Franco-Russian relations. France under multiple governments since 2011, has called for Assad to step down, and has already threatened \u2018military action\u2019 against Syria, so relations between these two countries are already \u2018ruined\u2019. But relations between France and Syria aren\u2019t critical for peace, stability, and the general project for Eurasian-European integration. However, Franco-Russian relations are very critical, and while it\u2019s been noted previously by experts that the aim of the U.S is to permanently poison EU-RF relations, <strong>Russia therefore is the obvious party that has the least interest in escalating tensions or further souring relations with France.\u00a0<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">We can see this in any number of cases, but specifically\u00a0 in how they dealt with the Turkish downing of the Russian plane a few years ago over Syrian skies. Their aim was to de-escalate, and ultimately show that the Turkish pilot involved was part of a directly NATO controlled part of the Turkish military that was operating, essentially \u2018rogue\u2019 and not under Erdogan\u2019s orders. When the coup attempt happened later, this same Turkish pilot was named in that group of anti-Erdogan coup-plotters. Russia did not use the opportunity to try to further worsen ties with Turkey. In fact, they used the opportunity to eventually strengthen ties with Turkey. This was wise, and most prudent, regardless of what actual facts were in play.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Last night Lattakia was attacked by navy assets off the Syrian coast, as well as Israeli airforce, and Russia appears to be saying it was \u2018also\u2019 France insofar as they report that \u2018French missile launches were detected\u2019 during the attack. FRN is clear that Russia \u2018appears\u2019 to be saying it was France that hit Lattakia, but isn\u2019t saying this conclusively. This point will be explained.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">This is an observational approach to information sharing, rather than deductive or conclusive. It also runs the two lines of information together, without necessarily connecting them. Russian official announcements, and Russian state run or synergy media like Sputnik, have all run the story the same way \u2013 running the two lines of information together, back to back, without necessarily connecting them causally or deductively. This will be important in untangling what Russia is officially, vs. not officially saying regarding the downing of the Russian Il-20 military aircraft off the coast of Syria and the death of 15 of its crew. The following screen shot with arrows and explanation added by FRN is meant to help prove and illustrate how Russian media is approaching this question.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_176751\" style=\"width: 550px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Sputnik-article.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-176751\" class=\"wp-image-176751\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Sputnik-article-1024x510.jpg\" alt=\"Sputnik article\" width=\"540\" height=\"269\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Sputnik-article-1024x510.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Sputnik-article-300x149.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Sputnik-article.jpg 1171w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 540px) 100vw, 540px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-176751\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Click to enlarge<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">So we have a Russian plane downed possibly by French Naval ship, or by the SAA air defense forces protecting Lattakia itself. The second proposition is the least credible. So let\u2019s now look at how the story looks specifically about the downed Russian\u00a0Il-20 military aircraft. Hopefully, in terms of the veracity of FRN\u2019s claims, Sputnik refrains from changing its textual presentation <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/sputniknews.com\/middleeast\/201809181068121621-france-russia-plane-syria\/\">here<\/a><\/strong><\/span>, so nevertheless we provide screenshots immediately below which will allow us to see two things.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Sputnik-article2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-176752\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Sputnik-article2.jpg\" alt=\"Sputnik article2\" width=\"540\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Sputnik-article2.jpg 803w, https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Sputnik-article2-300x296.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 540px) 100vw, 540px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Sputnik-article3.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-176753\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Sputnik-article3.jpg\" alt=\"Sputnik article3\" width=\"540\" height=\"546\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Sputnik-article3.jpg 792w, https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Sputnik-article3-297x300.jpg 297w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 540px) 100vw, 540px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong>One, that the pattern fits the same as the screen shot above,<\/strong> an event is registered as happening, and the activities of another party are named, but no connection is specifically made. Fact 1 and Fact 2 are divided. The reader is left to make of it what they will.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">If this led some readers to \u2018mistakenly\u2019 conclude at first that France had something to do with the takedown of the Il-20, they would, by Russian accounts, be \u2018officially\u2019 wrong, but most probably right. We can see the same Russian official method of information dissemination is used in the above screenshot, but in fact and indeed, Russia is not specifically ruling out that the registered missile launches had something to do with what hit Lattakia.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">At the same time, (and this gets more complicated, but referring to the above map will help,) we propose instead that something else happened. Israeli warplanes hit Lattakia, and perhaps Israeli ground systems were also aimed and hit Lattakia (we have no reports of the latter), and perhaps also French naval vessels\u2019 missiles hit Lattakia, but again this last point is not in fact established by Russian media per se. If Russia later revises or updates this story has events emerge, and diplomatic interactions take a certain or more clear, or more definable direction, then perhaps Russian reportage on this will change, retroactively. But this is where the infowar stood at the time of the events, and through the early afternoon of September 18th, Belgrade time.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong>Secondly, readers will take note of the inclusion of the French denial.<\/strong> This French denial is bizarre and entirely out of place since no one accused France. Do innocent parties randomly and yet officially deny involvement in things of which they are not formally accused? In most cases, no they do not.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>The Russian Defense Ministry has shared a map of\u00a0the September 17 attack in\u00a0Syria.<\/strong><\/h2>\n<div id=\"attachment_176528\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Israeli-attack-Russian-MOD-map.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-176528\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-176528\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Israeli-attack-Russian-MOD-map-300x180.jpg\" alt=\"Russian Ministry of Defence map. Click to enlarge\" width=\"300\" height=\"180\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Israeli-attack-Russian-MOD-map-300x180.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Israeli-attack-Russian-MOD-map.jpg 900w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-176528\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Russian Ministry of Defence map. Click to enlarge<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">From Sputnik, also:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">&lt;&lt;<strong>\u201cIsraeli Side Is Fully Responsible For Il-20 Crash\u201d<\/strong> \u2013 Russian defense minister<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cThe Russian Defense Ministry has repeatedly called on the Israeli side to refrain from attacks on Syrian territory, which threaten the security of Russian servicemen,\u201d the Russian Defense Ministry said.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cIsrael is fully responsible for the crash of the Russian Il-20 military aircraft off the coast of Syria and the death of its crew\u201d, Russian Defense Minister Shoigu stated.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">It\u2019s highly intelligent on the part of Russia, for many reasons, that they blame Israel for this if the option is France. Russia refuses to countenance steps leading to any war when other means are clear &amp; available.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Arrangements are in place to obviate the possibility of any kind of inadvertent US or NATO strike on a Russian asset. The situation in Latakia was complex and all details clearly have not yet been ascertained. But outright war is no answer whatever emerges ultimately. This was the thought process of Russian authorities, and the basis as well, of their disinfo campaign.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">It also makes perfect sense why they couldn\u2019t accuse Israel of actually taking down the plane. They did not, and the physical evidence could never establish that. Those familiar with the ins and outs of the MH-17 case show that a BUK system attack is not commensurate with the physical remains of the MH-17. In that case, it was attacked by another plane, an attack plane. For these reasons, the Atlanticists have not dealt with the physical evidence, which they are in charge of, but which DPR people and independent journalists were, fortunately, able to collect before NATO came in and did clean up.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">&lt;&lt;<strong>Il-20 Crash Site in Latakia Province is Located<\/strong>&gt;&gt;<\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cAt the moment, the location of the plane\u2019s crash is found 27 kilometers to the west of the village of Banias [Latakia province],\u201d the ministry said.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Russian Defense Ministry Views Provocative Israeli Actions in Syria as Hostile<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cWe see these provocative actions of Israel as hostile,\u201d Konashenkov said, adding that 15 Russian servicemen were killed as a result of the \u201cirresponsible actions\u201d of Israel\u2019s Defense Forces, which violated \u201cthe spirit of the Israeli-Russian partnership.\u201d&gt;&gt;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/latakia-attack-image.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-176754\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/latakia-attack-image.jpg\" alt=\"latakia-attack-image\" width=\"360\" height=\"369\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/latakia-attack-image.jpg 480w, https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/latakia-attack-image-293x300.jpg 293w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 360px) 100vw, 360px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">&lt;&lt;According to the spokesman, the Russian Defense Ministry reserves the right to an \u201cadequate response\u201d following the Israeli attack.&gt;&gt;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><strong>Israel has refused comment, and this makes sense. <\/strong>They can\u2019t deny their planes were up there, and Russia has confused the entire FUKUS and Israeli designed script. They have to sit back and think about this one.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">See, if Russia\u2019s accepting the Western statements about Syrian friendly fire were predicted, then this would have been obvious by their early availability for comment. This means that something has happened which they need to \u2018work through the variables\u2019 to answer to.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The French \u2018early denial\u2019 when no accusation was made, means that the West had planned for France to be blamed, the French authorities were prepared to carry out their script and deny the accusations that the Russians were \u2018obviously\u2019 going to make.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Then something happened, and Russia didn\u2019t make that accusation. But there were the French authorities, going forward with the script, and in an incoherent way which really exposes what they were up to, and tells us all quite clearly what was planned, and yet all the while Russia doesn\u2019t at all blame France. Ridiculous, brilliant, absurd.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">A critical factor here is that the whole event comes just hours after Erdogan and Putin\u2019s meeting for a political solution concerning Idlib, them shortly after France and Israel began a bombardment campaign targeting Lattakia, Homs, Jableh &amp; Tartous and\u00a0downing a Russian Il-20 with 14 soldiers on board in a clear act of provocation, meant to further cool Franco-Russian relations.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The western MSM was the first to falsely claim that the Syrian air defense system downed the plane while actually 4 Israeli fighters or multi-role<\/span>s<span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"> were right above in the air. But when the Russian plane was hit, it was a distant 35 KM off the Syrian coast. Russia is being prudent, for all the reasons explained here, in going along with this narrative \u2013 which much surprises the Atlanticists.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>&lt;&lt;Kremlin Extremely Concerned About Events that Led to Il-20\u2019s Destruction&gt;&gt;, more from Sputnik.\u00a0<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cThe Israeli pilots used the Russian plane as cover and set it up to be targeted by the Syrian air defense forces. As a consequence, the Il-20, which has radar cross-section much larger than the F-16, was shot down by an S-200 system missile\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cWe consider these provocative actions by Israel as hostile. Fifteen Russian military service members have died because of the irresponsible actions of the Israeli military. This is absolutely contrary to the spirit of the Russian-Israeli partnership\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">While Israel is a likely enough suspect in terms of motive and opportunity, it doesn\u2019t have the means \u2013 not means that can be established or that were verified to have been used, that is. Claiming it was Israel would require Russia to publicly divulge whether SAMS were used or not to take down the Il-20. But Russia would not be believed (honestly so) if they presented Israel as the attacker, because Israel didn\u2019t use SAMS in that attack, Russia did not register Israeli missile launches. Only French (and, Syrian). \u00a0And so the US, the Atlanticists, FUKUS and Israel, believed that Russia would blame France.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">It was specifically SAMS that were used, not Israeli planes that shot down the IL-20. The data would show that, and if claiming it was Israel, then Russia would be facing a reverse MH-17 scenario, where Russia is in possession both of the launch data and of the plane wreckage, meaning that they aren\u2019t in the position to credibly debunk the Western intelligence and MSM line that it was an \u2018accidental friendly fire by the SAA\u2019. Russia would be accused of faking the evidence if they tried to counter the claim, and it would do nothing to promote whatever response they need to make towards Israel, in revising their deconfliction agreement, or \u2018partnership\u2019.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">With the US claiming that it was a SAM, and Russia having to show it was a French SAM, Russia is in the position of having to blame France and rhetorically defend the SAA. What benefit is there in that? Russia already defends and supports the SAA. The SAA can go along with the lie, it serves the mid-term strategic objectives well, as we\u2019ve explained.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Franco-Russian relations can get worse. It will be hard enough to see an improvement, and this is Moscow\u2019s real desire. But relations can get worse, and exchanging accusations and for Moscow to blame Paris, will see relations get worse. Putin\u2019s mixed support base, given the various short term and long term goals of the RF, and the various pillars of Russian power which all agree that good relations with the two EU pillars \u2013 Germany and France \u2013 is above almost all else, equal to good relations with China \u2013 allows us to understand Russia and Putin\u2019s operating mandate.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">While some may counter that Israel and France have been firing cruise missiles at Syrian territory, missiles which are designed to attack ground targets, not take down aircraft, this point hasn\u2019t been established or made public, nor at this point \u2013 given that Russia is following the Western MSM and intelligence narrative on this \u2013 ought we expect Russia to present anything else.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">So functionally speaking, without a full disclosure on the part of the Russians towards the public, this opened up the possibility that Syria, while taking aim at \u201cIsraeli\u201d planes may have accidentally missed its target, and then locked on to the Russian plane. By itself, ignoring the geopolitics, likelihood, IFF systems in place etc., this may seem credible enough to some. Unfortunately, it fails to explain the French capacity.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The Russians would have real-time data to the moment the plane was hit. Also, a critical target to defeat a Russian fleet, with that plane out of the air, the information flow is handicapped on the Russian side. The entire caper could have been designed to eliminate that particular plane to see what the Russian side\u2019s \u2018plugging the gap\u2019 capabilities are.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">So this served a \u2018war games\u2019 objective, not only a PR-diplomacy-media (failed) objective.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The Russians have not, at least yet, claimed that all that France launched were SSM missiles (surface to surface), everything printed as of publishing time Belgrade, afternoon on the 18th September, indicates only that \u2018Russia detected French launch of missiles\u2019.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">In fact, the French vessel present, and involved in the attacks, a FREMM called the<a style=\"color: #ccffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/FREMM_multipurpose_frigate#Country-specific_equipment\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong> Auvergne<\/strong><\/span>\u00a0<\/a>has been equipped with <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Aster_(missile_family)\">missiles that can target air<\/a><\/strong><\/span>, by design. These are the Aster missile family, and the Auvergne as a FREMM, multipurpose frigate, is standard equipped this way by the French navy. Again, Russia did not report that it recorded that France had only launched SSM missiles.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_176755\" style=\"width: 550px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/fremm.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-176755\" class=\"wp-image-176755\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/fremm.jpg\" alt=\"FREMM, Auvergne. Clickm ton enlarge\" width=\"540\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/fremm.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/fremm-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 540px) 100vw, 540px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-176755\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">FREMM, Auvergne. Clickm ton enlarge<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">But why would Israel or France bother shooting down a Russian plane when they were already getting away with bombing Syria, without being hindered by Russia?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">This is a good question, but not difficult to answer. For the reasons explained above, Russia is not Syria. Franco-Russian relations are not now, (and because of this \u2018disinformation campaign\u2019 by Russia, following the Atlanticist lead,) irreparably damaged in the mid-term.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The aim of the Atlanticists is to have France do it, have France be blamed, and to cause a massive public relations problem, that Putin would have to respond to, by naming, blaming, the French, and seeking to hold them accountable. How will the French and Russian publics, respectively, take this? Not well, and it doesn\u2019t work well for the Eurasia project either. Macron will eventually be out, and it\u2019s politically near-impossible to hold the leader of a country, although temporary, responsible without blaming a whole people for something. Once you throw in the work of French media spin-doctors, they will absolutely succeed in twisting it not as a Macron problem but a problem that Russia has with blaming France and all the French by extension.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The IFF system, and the situation in Syria is not at all like the situation in the Georgian war ten years ago, when at the time there were some official Russian reports of there being difficulties separating Georgian from Russian aircraft. This is because MiGs are identical to MiGs. IFF systems at the time are not the same as today, with integrated transponders which make auto-locking impossible from the start. The Syrian Army at Lattakia does not, in reality, operate as a separate army. There, they have what is known as an integrated command, at least insofar as these issues are concerned. So the SAA couldn\u2019t have attacked or locked onto a Russian plane, because the transponder data in real time that is part of newer IFF systems actually would mean there would have to be an intentional manual override over the computerised \u2018no-lock possible\u2019 response the S-200\u2019s computer system would have automatically generated for a Russian plane of any kind.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The S-200 has an extremely high accuracy, not more than a bit different from the S-400 for a single target, and specifically a target of this size and speed, it would have had to \u2018miss\u2019 the Israeli plane in question, which only has a 10-15% chance of doing, but then proceed to then actually hit the Russian plane. But not only hit the Russian plane but critically so. This is all we can ascertain once we realize that auto-locking without manual override onto the Russian plane with the IFF transponder in direct connection with the SAA (Russian joint command) at Lattakia, is practically impossible unless we say there was an American asset working at the controls of the SAA\u2019s Lattakia computer.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">But instead of reality and instead of either reality painted above, Russia accuses the Israeli fighter jet of using the Russian plane as a screen (flying in super close proximity) to draw the missile to the Russian plane. If so, that raises a whole new issue; where were the Russian interceptors? It\u2019s not like they\u2019d not have had time to assess and take action, other than the S-300 system, Russian fighter escorts should have had time to scramble to meet the Russian plane in case of Israeli jets flying up the coast where it should have been obvious there was a Russian Il-20 headed into the same area. On top of that, why wouldn\u2019t the Russian plane have been rerouted?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The Putin-Erdogan deal reached yesterday indeed offers the strong probability for Syria to win without engaging in a needless conflict, and the promises of FUKUS attacks to be realized. Still, though they were anyhow, for no discernible reason given. Israel and France simply attacked in response to Turkey\u2019s cunning move. So time is on Russia\u2019s side.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">That the aim of yesterday\u2019s surprise attack is punishment for the Turkish \u2018about face\u2019, which FRN stated as a very likely possible outcome, (for the record), is evident in that stories from RT and Sputnik reporting on the event had official statements, and not randomly so, saying that these attacks will not deter or reverse the Turkish-Russian agreement on the final resolution of Idlib.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">What\u2019s needed now for the Atlanticists of FUKUS is to damage these relations as much as possible, Turkey vs. Russia, and Russia vs. France, and to cause Russia to blame France instead of blaming Israel.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">This was a calculation, that Russia would not blame Israel due to the successful media hologram that Russia created that Israel has an inviolable special relationship (they do not, to this extent), and that instead that Russia will blame France. They did not expect Russia to accept the Western MSM Atlanticist narrative that the SAA had shot down the Russian plane either.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Between blaming France or Israel, the US expected Russia to blame France. Between blaming Syria or France, the US expected Russia to blame France. Between blaming Syria or Israel, the US expected Israel to be blamed.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">They did not expect this hybrid of \u2018somewhat\u2019 blaming Israel for doing \u2018tricky stuff\u2019 in the air, the motives being hard to prove or qualify.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">If Russia was to avoid an MH-17 situation in reverse, they had to think with agility. Russia has the physical evidence, the flight data, and the missile launch data. If they were going to blame France, which was mostly expected, it would have been a UNSC charade, a General Assembly charade, and a media charade with \u2018Putin blaming France\u2019 and Russia being accused of having possession of the evidence from which their case is made, and therefore the evidence being dodgy or even manufactured entirely.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The crash remains of the IL-20 are going to absolutely show that it was hit with a missile, any fragments etc. required to establish that, will show that\u2019s an Aster missile, or similar, like the missiles used in the S-200\u2019s. But they aren\u2019t going to show that the impact is consistent with a small missile carried by Israeli planes, or by gun strafing from an attack plane.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">This is why Russia could not blame Israel, yet they knew that Israel was involved in attacking Lattakia, and it appears that Russia is also calculating the blaming of Israel in order to do yet something else unexpected.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">What that is, remains to be seen. Now Russia has the evidence in line with the western MSM, Atlanticist claims. They are blaming Israel for how the \u2018friendly fire\u2019 event took place and can use that to achieve the same defensive mandate as they would if they blamed France.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">See, blaming France doesn\u2019t accomplish anything but a souring of relations. All that Russia could effectively do with blaming France, is to use that to justify some change of their policy on Syria, in a way that further strengthens the Russian position in Syria and the position of Syria itself. But they do not need to blame France in order to do this. Blaming Israel for something which doesn\u2019t require much in the way of physical evidence, and is in line with the Western Atlanticists position (friendly fire), though a \u2018message jamming\u2019 variation of it (to the extent of derailing the point!), is sheer brilliance.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">So what new doctrine Russia will introduce in the Syrian conflict will remain to be seen. Many are hoping for a blanket \u2018No Fly Zone\u2019, though how likely this is, is questionable. What is most important is that Russia avoided being lured into a PR and diplomatic catastrophe with France, which is what Atlanticists hoped for and tried to execute.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Does Israel really have a motive?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Israel\u2019s position now in the region is so delicate, and Russia is not trying to \u2018win over\u2019 Israel at this point, not even pretending to try as they were before when creating the media-diplomatic hologram which western sources must have also bought into, for them to think that France would be blamed over Israel. Though again, the physical evidence requirement would also lend towards Russia blaming France since, well, France in fact carried out the attack.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Israel requires Russia to help, somehow, balance its interests with those of Iran and Syria. Israel had the least to gain by pushing Russia further away from Israel diplomatically, Israel would have been taking precautions not to hit Russian targets. On the other hand, since it became obvious that Russia would be protecting Syrian interests at the demilitarized zone just east of occupied Golan Heights, maybe Israel doesn\u2019t feel they have that much to lose. Nevertheless, they didn\u2019t shoot down the Russian Il-20. Everything points to France, on multiple levels.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.fort-russ.com\/2018\/09\/full-analysis-russian-disinfo-campaign-blames-israel-for-il-20-plane-downing-yet-exonerates-france\/\">Source <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Joaquin Flores on why he believes a French warship fired the missile that brought down the Russian Il-20 over Syria<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":39262,"featured_media":176755,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[37,91,83],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-176749","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-Israel_Anti-Semitism_Zionism_and_US-UK_allies","category-russia","category-syria"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/176749","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/39262"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=176749"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/176749\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":176788,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/176749\/revisions\/176788"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/176755"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=176749"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=176749"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=176749"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}