{"id":158236,"date":"2017-09-22T13:48:26","date_gmt":"2017-09-22T13:48:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=158236"},"modified":"2025-10-12T09:25:25","modified_gmt":"2025-10-12T09:25:25","slug":"israel-is-here-to-stay","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=158236","title":{"rendered":"Israel Is Here To Stay"},"content":{"rendered":"

Darkmoon — Sept 22, 2017<\/h1>\n

By <\/strong>FRANKLYN RYCKAERT<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0<\/strong><\/h2>\n

Franklin Ryckaert here argues that \u201cIsrael is here to stay\u201d and suggests that the Palestinians would do well to accept whatever little land Israel is ready to offer them. \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/h4>\n

\u201cThe only realistic choice for the Palestinians\u00a0<\/em><\/strong>
\nis to accept a rump state or no state at all.\u201d<\/em><\/strong>
\n\u2014 Franklyn Ryckaert<\/strong><\/h4>\n
All the peoples of the world are descendants of invaders. That is a fact. Europe originally belonged to the Neanderthals. To do \u201cjustice\u201d to everyone, we would need to remove all peoples everywhere from all the places they now live in and relocate them somewhere else. This is just not feasible.<\/strong><\/h5>\n
To hope that the former \u201cPalestine\u201d should be handed back intact to the present-day Palestinians is as unrealistic as hoping that Australia will be given back to the Australian Aboriginals or America to the native American Indians.\u00a0This is neither realistic nor possible. Dream on.<\/h5>\n
I\u2019m not going to justify Israel\u2019s injustices and crimes here. All I want to say to the Palestinians is that they have the choice between a little mini-state with some hope of happiness or no state at all \u2014 without any hope of happiness. It is a choice between reality or illusion.<\/h5>\n
This is the reality you Palestinians have to face:<\/h5>\n
(1) Accept the existence of Israel as a \u201cJewish state\u201d. Why not accept the idea of an ethnic state? What\u2019s the problem?<\/strong><\/h5>\n
(2) Accept a Palestinian state on the West Bank. The major Jewish settlement blocks here will go to Israel in exchange for other territory from Israel which will be given to the Palestinians in compensation \u2014 in a negotiated and fully agreed upon swap.<\/strong><\/h5>\n
(3) Gaza will be part of that Palestinian state, connected to the West Bank by a special road.<\/strong><\/h5>\n
(4) The capital of Palestine will be in East Jerusalem. The Jewish holy places of Jerusalem will be part of Israel. The Dome of the\u00a0Rock will go to Palestine, but will be accessible to Jews for \u00a0Jewish religious ceremonies.<\/strong><\/h5>\n
(5) The Palestinian state will be demilitarized so as not become a security threat to Israel, like Hamas controlled Gaza became.<\/strong><\/h5>\n
(6) Israel and the international community will render financial help to develop the new Palestinian state.<\/strong><\/h5>\n
(7) Since the new Palestinian state will be too small for all the 12 million Palestinians who have grown from the original 1.4 million, the majority of the Palestinians in the diaspora will have to stay where they are. They will not be allowed to return en masse to the new Palestine.<\/strong><\/h5>\n
All this is acceptable to all reasonable Israelis, to America, and to the majority of the international community. This is the only reality you can hope to get. \u00a0It is not \u201chistorical justice\u201d, it is a pragmatic solution \u2014 the best you can get\u00a0IF you are realistic.<\/em><\/strong><\/h5>\n
If you refuse to accept reality, if you keep on dreaming about your illusion of \u201cliberating all Palestine\u201d, you will get nothing. Nothing but continuous suffering. The Jews will build more and more settlements on the West Bank and will drive you into ever smaller \u201cBantustans\u201d where you will vegetate in poverty. New\u00a0intifadas and spectacular terrorist attacks will be met with harsh suppression and accomplish nothing.<\/h5>\n
So the choice is yours!<\/h5>\n
\u2014 \u00a0 \u00a7 \u00a0\u2014<\/h5>\n
I am talking<\/strong>\u00a0in practical, not theoretical terms. The Israelis would never agree to \u201crepatriate\u201d to their countries of origin, no matter what august international body should demand that. Israel has been recognized by the United Nations. So the only realistic choice for the Palestinians is to accept a rump state or no state at all.<\/h5>\n
We cannot compare the situation in Europe with Israel\/Palestine. Muslims in Europe have no legal right to stay there if they are unwanted. Many went there as \u201cguest workers\u201d, like the Turks to Germany. Or they entered Europe as \u201crefugees\u201d. Their presence was always assumed to be temporary. Apart from this, they have no historical claims on Europe as the Jews have on Palestine \u2014 not without some justification.<\/h5>\n
After all, Jews once lived in the Holy Land, but Africans were never a part of Europe.<\/h5>\n
\u2014 \u00a0 \u00a7 \u00a0 \u2014<\/h5>\n
In demanding a Palestinian state<\/strong>, the Palestinians are not being realistic. To obtain that state, the very least they would need is the full support \u2014 both moral and military \u2014 of other Arab or non-Arab Muslim states. They would need solidarity. This they lack.<\/h5>\n
Consider that \u00a0\u201clegendary Arab Leader\u201d Jamal Abdul Nasser was happy to make peace with Israel because it suited Egypt. Jordan did the same. Neither Egypt nor Jordan rallied round he Palestinians and gave them the unflinching support they might have done.<\/h5>\n
In addition, Israel has open relations with Turkey and secret relations with Saudi Arabia, the Gulf states and Morocco. The other Arab states are too weak to be a nuisance to Israel. No Muslim state, not even Iran, is really interested in waging a war with Israel for the sake of the Palestinians, about whose fate they don\u2019t really care that much \u2014 beyond the occasional rhetoric.<\/h5>\n
So that leaves the Palestinians all alone against the army of Israel with its 160,000 soldiers, 4,170 tanks, 684 aircrafts and 26 per cent of the Jewish population with active reserve status. A hopeless situation, it would seem. A handful of pygmies against an army of giants. Of course, the Palestinians can always throw stones and shout\u00a0\u201cAllahu Akbar!\u201d<\/em>\u00a0if they wish. Will throwing stones and shouting religious slogans liberate Palestine? I doubt it.<\/h5>\n
So let\u2019s have some realism.<\/h5>\n
\u2014 \u00a0 \u00a7 \u00a0 \u2014<\/h5>\n
Let\u2019s get back<\/strong>\u00a0to basics. What is the\u00a0realistic\u00a0choice facing the Palestinians? Under the present conditions \u2014 i.e. a Jewish state infinitely more powerful than the Palestinians and unwilling to abolish itself \u2014 the Palestinians have only one choice: either a rump state or no state at all. The third choice often mentioned, generally presented as just and fair in international as well as natural law, is of course the repatriation of the Jewish invaders and occupiers to their countries of origin. For most of them, this would involve sending them back to Europe or Russia. This is not realistic and will not happen. They won\u2019t want to go. And who can force them?<\/h5>\n
The only international legal body that could demand the Jews to repatriate would be the United Nations. This is most unlikely to occur, given that the UN was the first official body to recognize the existence of Israel. Whether the UN was created by the Rothschilds or not, or was not entitled to \u201cgive away land that did not belong to it\u201d, is totally irrelevant to this debate, which is about realistic possibilities.<\/h5>\n
As for the settlements on the West Bank being \u201cillegal\u201d, if Israel would make an agreement with the Palestinians that the major settlement blocks go to Israel in exchange for other land of Israel, then the UN would accept that, and thus those settlements would become legal too.<\/h5>\n
It is all a question of the realism of power:\u00a0realpolitik<\/em>. Moral \u201cprinciples\u201d don\u2019t enter into it. The\u00a0world doesn\u2019t function according to moral principles. In the struggle for existence in a red-in-tooth-in-claw world,\u00a0might is right<\/em><\/strong>. The victors write the history books and the winners call the shots. That\u2019s how it is.<\/h5>\n
Whether the Jews are \u201cGod\u2019s Chosen People\u201d or not, and whether the Holocaust is a fraud or not, the Jews have a state of their own in Palestine right now. They are not going to give that up. They are there to stay.<\/h5>\n
As for the Jewish historical claim on Palestine being \u201cridiculous\u201d, well yes, it\u00a0is\u00a0<\/em>partly ridiculous, but it\u2019s also partly justified. The Jews once had a state in Palestine. That is an historical fact. True, that state existed roughly 2000 years ago, which is the ridiculous part of it.<\/h5>\n
If the Jews have managed to get back a country they lost 2000 years ago, then there is nothing to stop the descendants of the present-day Palestinians trying to get back Palestine 2000 years from now. Ultimately, all conquered lands are taken by force and can only be kept by force. They cannot be kept if there is weakness.<\/h5>\n
My advice to the Palestinians? Make peace while you can. Better a rump state than no state at all.<\/h5>\n

Comment from Lasha Darkmoon — Sept 22, 2017<\/h2>\n

This excellent article by Franklin Ryckaert has been put together by myself with the help of 4-5 separate comments recently made by Franklin on the Arab-Israeli problem.<\/h5>\n
In order to unify into a coherent whole these disconnected comments, written at different times, I have had to supply the connective tissue myself. My sincere apologies to Franklin if I have added anything to his text that he would not have said himslf. In any case, this is 99 per cent Franklin\u2019s article and 1 per cent my own editorial insertions.<\/h5>\n
I will be writing a separate piece on the Arab-Israeli problem in response to Franklin\u2019s article. This will be published, hopefully, sometime within the next few days.<\/h5>\n

Source<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

It is all a question of the realism of power: realpolitik. Moral \u201cprinciples\u201d don\u2019t enter into it. Zionists know this so for them “might is right”, writes Franklyn Ryckaert <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":133,"featured_media":60371,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[61,37],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-158236","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-Commentary","category-Israel_Anti-Semitism_Zionism_and_US-UK_allies"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/158236","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/133"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=158236"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/158236\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":316675,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/158236\/revisions\/316675"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/60371"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=158236"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=158236"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=158236"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}