{"id":102093,"date":"2014-08-08T13:49:21","date_gmt":"2014-08-08T13:49:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=102093"},"modified":"2014-08-13T07:13:33","modified_gmt":"2014-08-13T07:13:33","slug":"mh17-pockmarks-look-like-from-very-very-heavy-machinegun-fire-says-first-osce-monitor-on-scene","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=102093","title":{"rendered":"MH17: Pockmarks look like from very, very heavy machinegun fire, says first OSCE monitor on scene"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\">Haris Hussain &#8212; New Straits Times August 7, 2014<\/h1>\n<div id=\"attachment_101741\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.anderweltonline.com\/fileadmin\/user_upload\/PDF\/Cockpit-MH017.pdf\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-101741\" class=\"size-full wp-image-101741\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/MH17-wreckage.jpg\" alt=\"MH17 wreckage clearly shows signs of shrapnel or machinegun fire. Click to enlarge\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-101741\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">MH17 wreckage clearly shows signs of shrapnel or machinegun fire. Click to enlarge<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">INTELLIGENCE analysts in the United States had already concluded that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">This corroborates an emerging theory postulated by local investigators that the Boeing 777-200 was crippled by an air-to-air missile and finished off with cannon fire from a fighter that had been shadowing it as it plummeted to earth.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">In a damning report dated Aug 3, headlined \u201cFlight 17 Shoot-Down Scenario Shifts\u201d, Associated Press reporter Robert Parry said \u201csome US intelligence sources had concluded that the rebels and Russia were likely not at fault and that it appears Ukrainian government forces were to blame\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">This new revelation was posted on GlobalResearch, an independent research and media organisation.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">In a statement released by the Ukrainian embassy on Tuesday, Kiev denied that its fighters were airborne during the time MH17 was shot down. This follows a statement released by the Russian Defence Ministry that its air traffic control had detected Ukrainian Air Force activity in the area on the same day.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">They also denied all allegations made by the Russian government and said the country\u2019s core interest was in ensuring an immediate, comprehensive, transparent and unbiased international investigation into the tragedy by establishing a state commission comprising experts from the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) and Eurocontrol.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cWe have evidence that the plane was downed by Russian-backed terrorist with a BUK-M1 SAM system (North Atlantic Treaty Organisation reporting name SA-11) which, together with the crew, had been supplied from Russia. This was all confirmed by our intelligence, intercepted telephone conversations of the terrorists and satellite pictures.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cAt the same time, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have never used any anti-aircraft missiles since the anti-terrorist operations started in early April,\u201d the statement read.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Yesterday, the New Straits Times quoted experts who had said that photographs of the blast fragmentation patterns on the fuselage of the airliner showed two distinct shapes \u2014 the shredding pattern associated with a warhead packed with \u201cflechettes\u201d, and the more uniform, round-type penetration holes consistent with that of cannon rounds.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Parry\u2019s conclusion also stemmed from the fact that despite assertions from the Obama administration, there has not been a shred of tangible evidence to support the conclusion that Russia supplied the rebels with the BUK-M1 anti-aircraft missile system that would be needed to hit a civilian jetliner flying at 33,000 feet.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Parry also cited a July 29 Canadian Broadcasting Corporation interview with Michael Bociurkiw, one of the first Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) investigators to arrive at the scene of the disaster, near Donetsk.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Bociurkiw is a Ukrainian-Canadian monitor with OSCE who, along with another colleague, were the first international monitors to reach the wreckage after flight MH17 was brought down over eastern Ukraine.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">In the CBC interview, the reporter in the video preceded it with: \u201cThe wreckage was still smouldering when a small team from the OSCE got there. No other officials arrived for days\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cThere have been two or three pieces of fuselage that have been really pockmarked with what almost looks like machinegun fire; very, very strong machinegun fire,\u201d Bociurkiw said in the interview.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Parry had said that Bociurkiw\u2019s testimony is \u201cas close to virgin, untouched evidence and testimony as we\u2019ll ever get. Unlike a black-box interpretation-analysis long afterward by the Russian, British or Ukrainian governments, each of which has a horse in this race, this testimony from Bociurkiw is raw, independent and comes from one of the two earliest witnesses to the physical evidence.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cThat\u2019s powerfully authoritative testimony. Bociurkiw arrived there fast because he negotiated with the locals for the rest of the OSCE team, who were organising to come later,\u201d Parry had said.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Retired Lufthansa pilot Peter Haisenko had also weighed in on the new shootdown theory with Parry and pointed to the entry and exit holes centred around the cockpit.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cYou can see the entry and exit holes. The edge of a portion of the holes is bent inwards. These are the smaller holes, round and clean, showing the entry points most likely that of a 30mm caliber projectile.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cThe edge of the other, the larger and slightly frayed exit holes, show shreds of metal pointing produced by the same caliber projectiles. Moreover, it is evident that these exit holes of the outer layer of the double aluminum reinforced structure are shredded or bent \u2014 outwardly.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">He deduced that in order to have some of those holes fraying inwardly, and the others fraying outwardly, there had to have been a second fighter firing into the cockpit from the airliner\u2019s starboard side. This is critical, as no surface-fired missile (or shrapnel) hitting the airliner could possibly punch holes into the cockpit from both sides of the plane.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cIt had to have been a hail of bullets from both sides that brought the plane down. This is Haisenko\u2019s main discovery. You can\u2019t have projectiles going in both directions \u2014 into the left-hand-side fuselage panel from both its left and right sides \u2014 unless they are coming at the panel from different directions.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">\u201cNobody before Haisenko had noticed that the projectiles had ripped through that panel from both its left side and its right side. This is what rules out any ground-fired missile,\u201d Parry had said.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nst.com.my\/node\/20961\">Source <\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"post-title entry-title\">Also see:<span style=\"color: #ffffff;\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=101739\"><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">BBC Report (Subsequently Deleted): Ukrainian Fighter Shot Down MH17<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Investigator&#8217;s findings at the scene completely odds with Washington&#8217;s verdict. So will this item receives any news coverage? Or will it be buried?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":39262,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[94],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-102093","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-malaysian-airlines-mh17"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/102093","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/39262"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=102093"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/102093\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":102099,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/102093\/revisions\/102099"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=102093"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=102093"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=102093"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}