{"id":101739,"date":"2014-07-31T06:10:18","date_gmt":"2014-07-31T06:10:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=101739"},"modified":"2020-03-03T18:59:05","modified_gmt":"2020-03-03T18:59:05","slug":"bbc-report-subsequently-deleted-ukrainian-fighter-shot-down-mh17","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/?p=101739","title":{"rendered":"BBC Report (Subsequently Deleted): Ukrainian Fighter Shot Down MH17"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\">Courtesy Peter Myers &#8212; July 31, 2014<\/h1>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Sa_R2NA1txc\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">Transcript of the original BBC Video Report<\/h2>\n<div id=\"attachment_101741\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.anderweltonline.com\/fileadmin\/user_upload\/PDF\/Cockpit-MH017.pdf\" rel=\"http:\/\/www.anderweltonline.com\/fileadmin\/user_upload\/PDF\/Cockpit-MH017.pdf\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-101741\" class=\"wp-image-101741 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/MH17-wreckage.jpg\" alt=\"MH17 wreckage\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-101741\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">MH17 wreckage clearly shows signs of blast. Click to enlarge<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Olga Ivshina, BBC: The black boxes from the crashed Boeing are finally being transferred into the hands of the experts. However, how much can they tell us?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The recorders logged the coordinates and the heading of the aircraft at the time of the incident and may have recorded the sound of the explosion. However, they will not tell us what exactly caused the explosion.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The inhabitants of the nearby villages are certain that they saw military aircraft in the sky shortly prior to the catastrophe. According to them, it actually was the jet fighters that brought down the Boeing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Eyewitness #1: There were two explosions in the air. And this is how it broke apart. And [the fragments] blew apart like this, to the sides. And when \u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Eyewitness #2: \u2026 And there was another aircraft, a military one, beside it. Everybody saw it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Eyewitness #1: Yes, yes. It was flying under it, because it could be seen. It was proceeding underneath, below the civilian one.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Eyewitness #3: There were sounds of an explosion. But they were in the sky. They came from the sky. Then this plane made a sharp turn-around like this. It changed its trajectory and headed in that direction [indicating the direction with her hands].<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Olga Ivshina, BBC: The Ukrainian government rejects this version of events. They believe that the Boeing was shot down using a missile from a \u201cBUK\u201d complex that came in from the direction of Russia.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Vitaliy Naida, Department of Counterintelligence of SBU [Ukrainian Security Service]: This was a BUK M1 system from which the aircraft was shot down. It came to Ukraine early in the morning on the 17th of July. It was delivered by a tow truck to the city of Donetsk. After that, it was redeployed from Donetsk, as part of a column of military equipment, to the area of the city of Torez, to the area of Snezhnoye, to the area of Pervomaisk.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Olga Ivshina, BBC: The Ukrainian Security Service has published photographs and a video, which, in its opinion, prove that the Boeing was shot down with a \u201cBUK\u201d missile. We attempted to verify these photographs and information at the location.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">One of the photographs showed a landscape not far from the city of Torez, on which smoke could be seen coming from the presumed location of the missile\u2019s launch. We attempted to find this location, and it appears that we were successful.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">We are now on the outskirts of the city of Torez. Behind me, approximately five kilometres away, is the city of Snezhnoye. And the landscape here matches the landscape that we can see on the photograph published by the Ukrainian Security Service.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">To find the place from which the smoke was allegedly coming from, we adopted as markers these three poplars and the group of trees. Presumably, this is the place that can be seen on the photograph published by the SBU. And here are our markers: the three solitary poplars and the small group of trees in the distance.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The smoke that can be seen on the photograph came from somewhere over there [pointing behind her], behind my back. The SBU believes that this is a trace coming from the launch of a \u201cBUK\u201d missile.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">However, it must be noted that there are here, approximately in the same place, the Saur-Mogila memorial, near which the fighting continues almost unabated, and a coalmine. It turns out that the smoke with the same degree of probability could have been coming from any of these locations.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Having circled around the nearby fields, we were unable to find any traces of a missile launch. Nor did the local inhabitants that we encountered see any \u201cBUK\u201d either.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">At the ruins of an apartment building in the city of Snezhnoye, the topic of the jet fighters that may have been escorting civilian aircraft comes up again. A bomb dropped from above took away the lives of eleven civilians here.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Sergey Godovanets, Commander of the Militia of the city of Snezhnoye: They use these civilian aircraft to hide behind them. It is only now that they stopped flying over us \u2013 but, usually, civilian aircraft would always fly above us. And they hide [behind them]. [The experience in] Slavyansk had demonstrated that they would fly out from behind a civilian aircraft, bomb away, and then hide, once again, behind the civilian aircraft and fly away.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Olga Ivshina, BBC: The commander of the local militia emphasizes that they have no weaponry capable of shooting down a jet fighter [flying] at a significant height. However, he says that if such weaponry were to appear, they would have tried to.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Sergey Godovanets: If we know that it is not a civilian aircraft, but a military one, then \u2013 yes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Olga Ivshina, BBC: So, could the Boeing have been shot down by the militias that had mistaken it for a military aircraft? There is as yet no unequivocal confirmation of either this or any other version [of what took place]. The international experts are just beginning their work with the information obtained from the crashed airliner. It now appears that it is difficult to overstate the importance of this investigation. Olga Ivshina, BBC.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">The Catastrophe of #MH17:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">#BBC in the Search of the \u201cBUK\u201d \u2013 The Video Report Deleted by BBC<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">Translation by: Valentina Lisitsa<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #ccffff;\">http:\/\/slavyangrad.wordpress.com<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ccffff;\"><a style=\"color: #ccffff; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/yandex.ru\/video\/preview\/?filmId=7350510308088215941&amp;text=BBC%20Report%20%28Subsequently%20Deleted%29%3A%20Ukrainian%20Fighter%20Shot%20Down%20MH17&amp;noreask=1&amp;path=wizard&amp;parent-reqid=1583261522730160-193809854008460723000215-sas3-6056&amp;redircnt=1583261693.1\">Link to the video on Yandex.ru<\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On the anniversary of its downing: BBC reporter interviews eyewitnesses (with English subtitles) who saw jet fighters fire on MH17. 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