Date: Wednesday, January 22, 1997
Commenced: 10:01 AM CST
Concluded: 10:21 AM CST
GD: Good day to you, Robert. Thank you for the mailing on Costello. I will send you his death certificate after the weekend. Of course it was AIDS. Lee was almost hysterical when I told him this.
RTC: I wonder why?
GD: He’ll probably rush to his doctor for a checkup.
RTC” Now, now, Gregory. Unkind.
GD: Well why get your balls into an uproar when you find out someone died of AIDS?
RTC: There could be many reasons.
GD: Yes, no doubt, but the first assumption is one of personal concern, not sympathy. I understand Costello’s brother, who is in the RN, refused to accept the body. Ah well, in the midst of life, Robert.
RTC: Of course. Just the certificate?
GD: And the post mortem report. It was the AIDS pneumonia that took him off on the plane. I wonder if rigor had set in when they landed? They would have to carry him off in a sitting position. Maybe they put one of their cheap blankets over him and pretended he was a broken seat.
RTC: You are in a fine mood today, I must say.
GD: I beat Jesus at poker last night and he wouldn’t pay up. He keeps hiding cards in that hole in his side.
GD: I wanted to ask you about this business with Oswald. You know, shooting with two guns out of the window, shooting some Dallas cop and so on. Can you give me any input here?
RTC: Oswald had nothing to do with the business. Nothing at all. He was an asset of ONI and he worked for both of us at Atsugi. That’s our U-2 base in Japan. He spoke Russian, after a fashion, and was instructed to act like a Marxist to rope in some Jap spies there. A clever young man but a bit of a trouble maker. No, Oswald had nothing to do with it. I said we had used him once and we had a dossier on him. He was perfect for the role of patsy. Married the niece of a top MVD officer, an avowed Marxist and so on. And, joy of joys, he worked at the book building. We had the presidential cavalcade rerouted to go right past it to be certain. And we had a resource in the Cuban Embassy in Mexico who swore Oswald was in there trying to flee to Cuba. It does pay to have people in the right place, Gregory. Never know when you might need them.
GD: Interesting. And he was using an Argentine Mauser which magically turned into a Mannlicher-Carcano. My God, you couldn’t his a barn with that piece of shit if you were inside it. The Mauser, on the other hand, was a good gun.
RTC: Yes. The Mauser belonged to the wrong people so the other piece was substituted. We made sure that could be traced to him. And we got the wife to admit seeing the wop gun. Of course in her condition, she would identify a crossbow or a polar bear.
GD: And the Ruby business. Too pat.
RTC: Of course. Ruby was from the Chicago mob and I had connections with them through my father. You see, Ruby had cancer and knew he was probably going to die soon enough so he was put up to silencing Oswald. Oswald was not involved and if it ever went to trial, it would all come out. The Navy didn’t want it to come out that they hired him and the FBI didn’t want it out that he had worked for them so everyone was happy when Ruby did his deed in the basement. Of course later, he found out they might execute him instead of letting die comfortably in a Dallas hospital so he got alarmed and was trying to get out of it. I don’t know why, Gregory. He knew all about keeping quiet but he was a Jew and very emotional. Not stable but he did his work as he was told. And we had some use for him earlier over sending guns to Castro. I suppose you knew that the Company was an early supporter of Castro? Put him in place, as it were. Now that was a classic mistake. I had nothing to do with that. We spent years trying to clean that one up. Kennedy found out about our role in that because he had Bissel’s phone tapped and loose lips can sink careers as well as ships.
GD: The tangled web.
GD: ‘Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.”
RTC: Sounds like Shakespeare.
GD: Walter Scott to be exact. Anyway, given all the loose ends, I’m amazed none of this has come out.
RTC: No, we had an army of real idiots running around with fifty different weird theories and stories so the public had other things to amuse and entertain them. The umbrella man, the man in the sewer, the tramps in the railroad yard, shooting at General Walker and on and on.
GD: The Warren Report is an unindexed pack of creative writing.
RTC: Of course it is. Our many friends at the New York Times have been pushing that and the really silly Posner fairytale. Well, the Times is one of our finest assets right along. Not a bad paper but they do what they’re told. And Jerry Ford running to Hoover, tongue hanging out, with the latest news of the commission’s meetings. Of course Colonel Hoover knew the whole thing. What a huge farce all of that was.
GD: I wonder why none of the truth ever came out?
RTC: Gregory, the American public is as stupid as a post. They’ll go for fried ice cream every time. And the press knows where their bread is buttered so we never worry about them. Bought and paid for, Gregory, bought and paid for. And we had Ben over at the Post to cinch up matters there for us. Very reliable. He and Angleton cleaned up some of the messes after Kennedy was hit. No, the press can always be counted on.
GD: My late grandfather used to say something right on point. ‘Once a newspaperman, always a whore.’
RTC: Was your grandfather a reporter?
GD: No, a banker.
(Concluded at 10:21 CST)