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Editor’s note: When we ran the first conversation in this series, there was the question of reader interest and acceptability. It is pleasant to report that our server was jammed with viewers and the only other tbrnews story that has had more viewers was our Forward Base Falcon story that had a half a million viewers in less that two days. We are now going to reprint all of the Crowley conversations, including a very interesting one on John McCain, in chronological sequence. It is also pleasant to note that two publishers and three reporters have all expressed concrete interest in the Crowley conversations. It is even more pleasurable to note that a number of people inside the Beltway and in McLean , Virginia , have been screaming with rage! Here is a partial listing of documents from Crowley ’s personal files, now being scanned for publication:


Catalog Number Description of Contents

1000 BH Extensive file (1,205 pages) of reports on Operation PHOENIX. Final paper dated January, 1971, first document dated October, 1967. Covers the setting up of Regional Interrogation Centers, staffing, torture techniques including electric shock, beatings, chemical injections. CIA agents involved and includes a listing of U.S. military units to include Military Police, CIC and Special Forces groups involved. After-action reports from various military units to include 9th Infantry, showing the deliberate killing of all unarmed civilians located in areas suspected of harboring or supplying Viet Cong units. *

1002 BH Medium file (223 pages) concerning the fomenting of civil disobedience in Chile as the result of the Allende election in 1970. Included are pay vouchers for CIA bribery efforts with Chilean labor organization and student activist groups, U.S. military units involved in the final revolt, letter from T. Karamessines, CIA Operations Director to Chile CIA Station Chief Paul Wimert, passing along a specific order from Nixon via Kissinger to kill Allende when the coup was successful. Communications to Pinochet with Nixon instructions to root out by force any remaining left wing leaders.

1003 BH Medium file (187 pages) of reports of CIA assets containing photographs of Soviet missile sites, airfields and other strategic sites taken from commercial aircraft. Detailed descriptions of targets attached to each picture or pictures.

1004 BH Large file (1560 pages) of CIA reports on Canadian radio intelligence intercepts from the Soviet Embassy in Ottawa (1958) and a list of suspected and identified Soviet agents or sympathizers in Canada , to include members of the Canadian Parliament and military.

1005 BH Medium file (219 pages) of members of the German Bundeswehr in the employ of the CIA. The report covers the Innere Führung group plus members of the signals intelligence service. Another report, attached, covers CIA assets in German Foreign Office positions, in Germany and in diplomatic missions abroad.

1006:BH Long file (1,287 pages) of events leading up to the killing of Josef Stalin in 1953 to include reports on contacts with L.P. Beria who planned to kill Stalin, believing himself to be the target for removal. Names of cut outs, CIA personnel in Finland and Denmark are noted as are original communications from Beria and agreements as to his standing down in the DDR and a list of MVD/KGB files on American informants from 1933 to present. A report on a blood-thinning agent to be made available to Beria to put into Stalin’s food plus twenty two reports from Soviet doctors on Stalin’s health, high blood pressure etc. A report on areas of cooperation between Beria’s people and CIA controllers in the event of a successful coup. *

1007 BH Short list (125 pages) of CIA contacts with members of the American media to include press and television and book publishers. Names of contacts with bios are included as are a list of payments made and specific leaked material supplied. Also appended is a shorter list of foreign publications. Under date of August, 1989 with updates to 1992. Walter Pincus of the Washington Post, Bradlee of the same paper, Ted Koppel, Sam Donaldson and others are included.

1008 BH A file of eighteen reports (total of 899 pages) documenting illegal activities on the part of members of the U.S. Congress. First report dated July 29, 1950 and final one September 15, 1992. Of especial note is a long file on Senator McCarthy dealing with homosexuality and alcoholism. Also an attached note concerning the Truman Administration’s use of McCarthy to remove targeted Communists. These reports contain copies of FBI surveillance reports, to include photographs and reference to tape recordings, dealing with sexual events with male and female prostitutes, drug use, bribery, and other matters.

1009 BH A long multiple file (1,564 pages) dealing with the CIA part (Kermit Roosevelt) in overthrowing the populist Persian prime minister, Mohammad Mossadegh. Report from Dulles (John Foster) concerning a replacement, by force if necessary and to include a full copy of AJAX operation. Letters from AIOC on million dollar bribe paid directly to J.Angleton, head of SOG. Support of Shah requires exclusive contracts with specified western oil companies. Reports dated from May 1951 through August, 1953.

1010 BH Medium file (419 pages) of telephone intercepts made by order of J.J. Angleton of the telephone conversations between RFK and one G.N. Bolshakov. Phone calls between 1962-1963 inclusive. Also copies of intercepted and inspected mail from RFK containing classified U.S. documents and sent to a cut-out identified as one used by Bolshakov, a Russian press (TASS) employee. Report on Bolshakov’s GRU connections.

1011 BH Large file (988 pages) on 1961 Korean revolt of Kwangju revolt led by General Park Chung-hee and General Kin-Jong-pil. Reports on contacts maintained by CIA station in Japan to include payments made to both men, plans for the coup, lists of “undesirables” to be liquidated Additional material on CIA connections with KCIA personnel and an agreement with them to assassinate South Korean chief of state, Park, in 1979.

1012 BH Small file (12 pages) of homosexual activities between FBI Director Hoover and his aide, Tolson. Surveillance pictures taken in San Francisco hotel and report by CIA agents involved. Report analyzed in 1962.

1013 BH Long file (1,699 pages) on General Edward Lansdale. First report a study signed by DCI Dulles in September of 1954 concerning a growing situation in former French Indo-China. There are reports by and about Lansdale starting with his attachment to the OPC in 1949-50 where he and Frank Wisner coordinated policy in neutralizing Communist influence in the Philippines .. Landsale was then sent to Saigon under diplomatic cover and many copies of his period reports are copied here. Very interesting background material including strong connections with the Catholic Church concerning Catholic Vietnamese and exchanges of intelligence information between the two entities.

1014 BH Short file (78 pages) concerning a Dr. Frank Olson. Olson was at the U.S. Army chemical warfare base at Ft. Detrick in Maryland and was involved with a Dr. Gottleib. Gottleib was working on a plan to introduce psychotic-inducing drugs into the water supply of the Soviet Embassy. Apparently he tested the drugs on CIA personnel first. Reports of psychotic behavior by Olson and more police and official reports on his defenstration by Gottleib’s associates. A cover-up was instituted and a number of in-house CIA memoranda attest to this. Also a discussion by Gottleib on various poisons and drugs he was experimenting with and another report of people who had died as a result of Gottleib’s various experiments and CIA efforts to neutralize any public knowledge of these. *

1015 BH Medium file (457 pages) on CIA connections with the Columbian-based Medellín drug ring. Eight CIA internal reports, three DoS reports, one FBI report on CIA operative Milan Rodríguez and his connections with this drug ring. Receipts for CIA payments to Rodríguez of over $3 million in CIA funds, showing the routings of the money, cut-outs and payments. CIA reports on sabotaging DEA investigations. A three-part study of the Nicaraguan Contras, also a CIA-organized and paid for organization.

1016 BH A small file (159 pages) containing lists of known Nazi intelligence and scientific people recruited in Germany from 1946 onwards, initially by the U.S. Army and later by the CIA. A detailed list of the original names and positions of the persons involved plus their relocation information. Has three U.S. Army and one FBI report on the subject.

1017 BH A small list (54 pages) of American business entities with “significant” connections to the CIA. Each business is listed along with relevant information on its owners/operators, previous and on going contacts with the CIA’s Robert Crowley, also a list of national advertising agencies with similar information. Much information about suppressed news stories and planted stories


Date: Thursday, September 12, 1996
Commenced: 8:47 AM CST
Concluded: 9:15 AM CST

RTC: This time I called you, Gregory. I hope it’s not inconvenient for you.

GD: No, I’m fine here. If you hear any odd noises, I am trying to adjust the volume on my phone set. I have a hearing problem in one ear. There, I think it’s better now. What can I do for you, Robert?

RTC: I think I mentioned Jim Critchfield to you before.

GD: Ran the Gehlen Org up at Pullach. Yes, we talked about him. As I recall, you are not fond of him.

RTC: No, I am not but Jim doesn’t know that. What I’m calling about, Gregory, is a plan I have to jerk Jim’s chain. Do you think we could work together on this?

GD: I have no problem, Robert. What do you have in mind?

RTC: Well, Jim is a class A asshole as I may have mentioned. I introduced him to his wife which I now regret. Jim is a boor and I was not aware of it at the time. As you know, or perhaps you don’t, he ran your friend Mueller when he worked for us. First he ran him in Switzerland where he was working for Swiss intelligence and then they brought Mueller over here because he was too important to leave in Europe . The Jews know he got away and they’ve been looking for him so we brought him over here. It’s safer that way. You understand that we’re officially bosom buddies with them but actually they hate us because we do business with the Arabs for oil and they don’t like that.

GD: But they don’t have any oil.

RTC: Yes, I know. But to get back to Jim again. He knows about your Mueller books and he and his friends are very worried about what you do, or don’t, know. You have not mentioned Jim’s name yet so he is now on a fishing expedition to see just what you know and, more important, what proof you have Mueller worked for the Company.

GD: I have enough proof. New name, pictures of him and Truman, CIA ID cards and so on.

RTC: Fine, that’s what I believe. Anyway, Jim has ordered your book and wants me to talk him up to you so you will talk to him. He thinks he is very slick and he can pick your brains. I never bothered to tell him that you are twice as smart as he is and are much more likely to pick his brains. And that’s one of the things I want you to do. Jim wants to call you up and make nice with you. You know, praise you without actually committing himself. I suggested he write you a letter first to make introductions so you can expect this in a week or so. After that, he will want to talk to you. Of course he will have one of his friends on the other line and will, 100%, tape you so be very careful what you admit to him. He’s got his reputation to defend here and also he’s writing a book on Gehlen. Now you knew Gehlen…when was that again?

GD: 1951, in the summer.

RTC: Any proof of this?

GD: My memory, which is very good plus two pictures. One is of Gehlen during the war as a general officer and one is a snapshot of both of us standing in front of his house on the lake.

RTC: I believe you, Gregory, but Jim might want proof. Of course he will be very diplomatic about this. Also, he is being told you were in military intelligence under another name. Just be deliberately vague if he wants names or a unit number. You know the usual sort of “That’s still classified because of my work” crap. I’m sure you can pull this off.

GD: Thanks for your confidence, Robert. But I was only 17 at the time.

RTC: I doubt if he’ll ask you for your birthdate. Hint but do not be specific.

GD: Is he a little ex-cavalryman from the Dakotas ?

RTC: The same. Did I tell you that?

GD: No, I met him at Gehlen’s once and I never forget people.

RTC: I’m sure you don’t. Now the way I want to nail him is for you to imply that you have absolute proof Mueller worked for Crichfield and was here in the States.

GD: That’s not any kind of a problem. I should throw Willi Krichbaum in for some spice.

RTC: Willi…?

GD: Krichbaum. He was a Gestapo agent. A full colonel in the SS and Mueller’s standing deputy. In charge of the southwestern border guards which was under the control of the SS. Willi then ran the Secret Field Police for the Army and this was staffed mostly with Gestapo and SD men. When I met Willi there, he was down at Bad Reichenhall as Gehlen’s chief recruiter. Mostly sought out and recruited SS and SD people for the Org.

RTC: And you knew him? Personally? Saw him? Talked with him there?

GD: Oh, yes, very well and if Critchfield asks me I can fill him in on all kinds of physical details. Don’t worry about that.

RTC: That will scare the shit out of him for certain.

GD: Good. I’m better than a laxative. What is the end goal here, Robert?

RTC: To convince him that you know all about him and like him, you too are writing another book. That’ll keep his bowels open. But don’t give away too much. If you mention papers, don’t say you have them at home or he’ll have someone break in and take them. He’s already said so.

GD: Will he shoot me?

RTC: No, but he’d like to. They are very angry with you, Gregory, but they know nothing substantive about you. Wolfe has been filling them with spiteful crap but then they have no respect for him at all. When did Mueller die?

GD: ’83. Buried in Oakland under his own name.

RTC: Don’t tell Jim that or they’ll dig him up or put down another stone. Sound authoritative but play your cards close to the vest. Something like, ‘as we both know” sort of thing. Oh, and by the way, they have another Hebrew stool pigeon working on all of this. Name of Naftali. Works at Yale teaching potential Foggybottom boys about security and so on. He’s a friend of Wolfe and be very careful of him if he calls you. He’d put a knife into you as soon as fart.

GD: Thanks for the heads-up, Robert. I have heard nothing from him yet but when I do, it’s up hill and down dale with the bs express.

RTC: Good.

GD: It’s too bad Mueller is dead. He would genuinely have enjoyed this idiotic crap. We did have some lovely conversations about life and all the insects in it. But given his background, he was a very decent sort of person all in all.

RTC: Yes, that was my impression, too. Correct and very sharp.

GD: And decent. It’s your dime. I can tell you a story about him and what he thought about a few personal things.

RTC: Go on.

GD: One time he asked me why I had such a cynical view of life. Was there a defining moment for me? There was, of course, there always is. I told him about the time when I was in high school and there had been a rash of locker thefts. Money, portable radios, sports equipment and so on was looted. Suddenly, the police called me into the front office and questioned me about this. Then they searched me physically and went into my own locker. I objected to being searched but they informed me I was not an adult and they could do what they liked. Most policemen are very stupid and it does not pay to discuss the law with them. Anyway, they found nothing at all. Then they went to my home and of course my mother welcomed them in and let them tear my room up. They didn’t find anything there, either. But I was blamed for this by everyone. Kids demanded I return their dad’s radio or their money and so on, the teachers made snide remarks about me in front of the classes and my family said that I must have done something wrong or the precious police would never have come by. I can assure you that I had nothing to do with any of this. I had a Russian friend at school and he was known to be very handy with his fists so I never got smacked around but I can guarantee that it was not a pleasant time. So, one day, a janitor came out of a supply closet and saw someone looting a locker. He grabbed him and dragged him to the office. The police came, searched him and his locker and found concrete evidence that he, not I, was the thief. He confessed and the loot was returned except for the cash which his rich parents gave back. He was from a good family, as they say, so instead of juvenile detention center, he was allowed to go to a private school to learn how to become a valued member of society without being caught.

When I told this story to Mueller, he looked at me and asked me to finish the story. I told him I had. He said I had not. What did he mean by that? He asked me if I looked like the thief and I said I did not. Then he asked me if anyone had apologized to me for my harassment and I said no, that no one had ever apologized to me. He said that surely my own family had said something and I said that they had not. And no one at the school ever talked to me again and I am positive that most of them still believe I stole thousands of dollars from their lockers. And then Mueller said that this was, in his opinion, disgusting and said, and I have not forgotten this, that he would apologize to me for those who did not. I told him not to say this because he would never have done this and not to apologize. I thought it was a very decent thing for him to say and I never forgot it.

RTC: Now that’s a terrible experience, Gregory. People are such royal shits, aren’t they?

GD: That’s a very perceptive and very true observation, Robert.

RTC: It must be frustrating to realize that there’s nothing you could have done about it.

GD: Oh, I did do something about it, Robert, I did indeed.

RTC: Care to tell me about it?

RTC: Vicarious pleasure for you Robert? Very well, I’ll tell you but I warn you, you might not have any respect for me afterwards. Shall I go on?

RTC: You know my former business, Gregory. I would not condemn you. Given your talents, I would really like to know how you got even.

GD: Very well. Consider yourself warned. I had a friend who was, to be kind, very strange. The so-called normal people didn’t like me. Anyway, I should preface this by saying that at that high school, the students all had to eat lunch in their cafeteria. If your family wrote a note, you could go home for lunch and I had such a letter. One day, about two months after this locker business, my friend and I went downstairs into the cafeteria to see if we could find any cookies. It was later in the afternoon and there was no one about. Nothing. All the cookies, cakes and so on were locked up. But I noticed a very large stock pot slowly bubbling on the range. In one of the unlocked cupboards, I found three gallon jugs of commercial detergent. The label said the contents were odorless and tasteless and designed for use in restaurants to avoid alien tastes getting into prepared foods. I could see at once what to do so without further ado, as they say, I dumped all three gallons into the soup stock pot….

RTC: My God, Gregory!

GD: Well, I told you. Ah, but the best part was the next day. It was a Friday and after I came back to the school when I finished my delicious, nourishing lunch at home, my first afternoon period was a study hall. I and my girlfriend signed in and then took off. I figured that by that time, the student body was primed and ready to go. Of course I didn’t tell her to spare her feelings. We were standing by my locker, right by an exit door, when about one twenty someone ran down the hall and into the only lavatories in the school, right down the hall. This was followed by a few more and then by many more. There was a stampede of sorts. Of course the bathrooms were small and couldn’t handle the traffic. Panic and humiliation, Robert. Accidents in the hall, in doorways, outside the door behind me on the steps. I recall the hero quarterback of our beloved football team, a prime asshole, running frantically down the hall, slipping on a pile of crap and crashing down onto his back. And from his expression, it was obvious that his reason for visiting the jammed john was gone. He got up and walked, bowlegged, for the back door. Humiliation. He should have tied his shoelaces around his ankles to save the floor but at that point, the floor was past saving. It smelt like a cross between a public lavatory in France in July and a cow barn.

RTC: (Laughter)

GD: And I recall my French girl friend pointing to a girl and screaming with laughter. She was pointing at Geneva , a tennis champion on the school tennis team. Geneva was a prime bitch and my girl friend hated her. Poor, vain Geneva . She was wearing a nice white pleated wool tennis skirt and was weeping with shame because she had had a very obvious accident. It looked, Robert, exactly as if she had sat down on a pumpkin pie.

RTC: (Laughter)

GD: All in all it looked like a painting by Bosch, some ancient view of Hell. Shouts, thundering feet, flatulence, cries of dismay and other really delightful background noises. We finally exited by the door and had to step carefully to avoid the messes on the steps and I distinctly recall legions of the afflicted voiding their watery bowels all over the lawns and into the parking lot. And it was even worse on Monday. You see, they had no idea I had salted the soup so there was another episode on Monday. This time, there was a good deal of profitable work for the local proctologists, not to mention the sudden surge in business for the dry cleaners.

RTC: You are quite mad, Gregory. But remarkable. Was your honor satisfied?

GD: I think so. I haven’t laughed so hard since my evil aunt fell into the septic tank. Mueller didn’t have to apologize after all.

RTC: Did you ever tell him about this? He seemed like such a very serious person.

GD: He laughed even louder than you did a few minutes ago, Robert. I will have no trouble dealing with your Critchfield, Robert, don’t worry about that.

RTC: Remind me to never eat lunch at your house, Gregory.

GD: Well, everything came out in the end, Robert.

RTC: (Laughter)

GD: Are you disgusted with me?

RTC: No, entertained.

GD: The custodians were not amused. One of them told me the lavatories were a real horror show and it took a week to clean everything up. They had to scrape the walls. But my honor was avenged and that’s all that mattered. Of course I could have put something else into the soup pot but I’m not that sort of a person.

(Concluded at 9:15 AM CST )

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