Thierry Meyssan –Voltairenet.org Dec 15, 2020
The problem is no longer who was legitimately elected President of the United States, but how long can the civil war be postponed? Far from being a fight between a narcissistic TV presenter and a senile old man, the country is being torn apart over a fundamental cultural issue that has been smouldering since its inception.
Here we are: the disaster that has been predictable for the past 30 years is looming. The United States is heading inexorably toward secession and civil war.
Since the demise of the USSR, the “American Empire” no longer had an existential enemy and therefore no reason to exist. The attempt by George H. Bush (the father) and Bill Clinton to give the country a new life with the globalization of trade has destroyed the middle classes in the USA and in almost all of the West. The attempt of George W. Bush (son) and Barack Obama to organize the world around a new form of capitalism – financial this time – has been bogged down in the sands of Syria.
It is too late to turn the tide. Donald Trump’s attempt to abandon the American Empire and refocus the country’s efforts on its domestic prosperity has been sabotaged by the elites acquired to the puritanical ideology of the “Pilgrim Fathers”. As a result, the moment so feared by Richard Nixon and his election adviser Kevin Philipps has arrived: the United States is on the brink of secession and civil war.
What I am writing is not a fantasy, but the analysis of many observers in the United States and around the world. For example, the Wisconsin Supreme Court has just declared Donald Trump’s election fraud appeal inadmissible, not on legal grounds, but because “it would open Pandora’s box.
In fact, contrary to the misrepresentation of events that dominates the international press, either the outgoing president’s appeals are judged in law and he is obviously right, or they are judged in politics and proving him right will provoke civil war. But the conflict is already too far advanced. Judging him politically in defiance of the law will also provoke civil war.
We must stop interpreting the presidential election as a rivalry between Democrats and Republicans, whereas Donald Trump has never claimed to be a member of the Republican Party, which he stormed during his 2016 campaign. He is not an enlightened man, but a successor to President Andrew Jackson (1829-37). Yes, ideologically, the latter prefigured the “Southerners,” the “Confederates.

Just because Andrew Jackson is ignored in Europe does not mean that he is a marginal figure in American history. His portrait appears on the $20 bill, which he vetoed at the Federal Reserve.
We must stop pretending that Donald Trump does not represent the majority of his fellow citizens when he was first elected president in 2016, when he has just helped thousands of candidates win local elections in his name, and when he has just won millions more votes than in 2016.
No one in Europe seems to dare to see what is happening in front of us, because everyone clings to the idea of a United States that is a paragon of democracy. Please read the US Constitution, it will only take you a few minutes. It recognizes the sovereignty of the Federated States, not of the People. Its main designer, Alexander Hamilton, said it and wrote in the Federalist Papers: its purpose is to establish a regime comparable to the British monarchy without aristocracy, certainly not a democracy.
This constitution lasted two centuries only because of the compromise of the First Ten Amendments (Bill of Rights). But in this age of globalization of information, everyone can see that the dice are loaded. This system is certainly tolerant, but oligarchic. In the United States, almost all laws are drafted by organized pressure groups, regardless of who is elected to Congress and the White House. The political staff is just a smokescreen that hides the real Power. Every decision of every politician is noted by these groups and directories compiling their docility are published every year.
The Europeans, who want to represent the United States as a democratic nation, keep claiming that the presidential election is a matter for the electorate. This is absolutely false. The constitution does not provide for the election of the federal president in the second degree by the people, but by an electoral college appointed by the governors. Over time, governors have ended up holding elections in their states before choosing the members of the Electoral College. Some have agreed to include it in their local constitutions, but not all. In the end, the federal Supreme Court doesn’t care, as it did when George W. Bush v. Al Gore was appointed 20 years ago. It explicitly stated that the potential election rigging that had taken place in Florida was not within its jurisdiction.
In that context, Donald Trump would probably have won the 2020 election if the United States were a democracy, but he lost because it’s an oligarchy and the politicians don’t want him.
The Jacksonians, supporters of democracy, have no choice but to take up arms to make their cause triumph, as the Second Amendment to their Constitution explicitly provides. In the original sense of the Second Amendment, the right of Americans to acquire and bear all manner of weapons of war is intended to enable them to rebel against a tyrannical government, as they did against the British monarchy. This is the meaning of the compromise of 1789, which the majority of them considered to have been broken.
General Michael Flynn, the short-lived National Security Advisor, has just called for the suspension of the constitution and the introduction of martial law to prevent civil war. The Pentagon, whose head was replaced a month ago by the outgoing president in favour of friends of the general, is standing by.
Donald Trump, meanwhile, announced that he will appear before the Texas court that will rule on local election fraud. Texas is one of two states that formed an independent republic before joining the United States. But when it joined, it retained a right to opt out. In 2009, then Governor Rick Perry threatened to secede. This idea is still going strong. Today, the local Congress is expected to decide on Representative Kyle Biedermann’s proposal for an independence referendum.
The process of dissolution of the United States could be faster than that of the USSR. It was studied at the time in Moscow by Professor Igor Panarin. Demographics have changed since then and have been analyzed by Colin Woodard. The country would then be split into 11 separate states on a cultural basis.
To these problems are added the complaints against the legislatures of some 20 states that passed laws during the Covid-19 outbreak governing elections in a manner contrary to their own constitutions. If these appeals, which are legally founded, are successful, they will have to annul not only the presidential election, but all local elections (parliamentary, sheriffs, prosecutors, etc.). It will not be possible to verify the alleged facts in Texas and elsewhere until the Federal Electoral Council meeting. Texas and other states with similar appeals, as well as those that will have to annul the election, will therefore not be able to participate in the nomination of the next President of the United States. In such a case, the only substitution procedure that applies is for the new Congress, in which the Puritans are in the minority and the Jacksonians are in the majority.
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Roger Lagassé



Oh so true…
… “We must stop interpreting the presidential election as a rivalry between Democrats and Republicans”.
All through this US electoral process, I have been banging the drum that Trump is neither Republican nor Democrat. The Republicans are basically right-wing Christian fundamentalists. The Democrats are essentially the same grouping. They are way more right-wing than any Western EU state or the UK. So the US is a one-party state & as Meyssan points out, the US is culturally divided. Nearly all states have passed into law plans of succession… as in, they are ready to break away at the drop of a hat.
Since 2008 designed financial collapse, virtually every US state bar I believe Ohio is bust. The Federal regime has failed to fix the problems or even offer aid.
As I’ve said in other comments, it is very hard to know how far Trump is willing to go. But my guess is that he has nothing to lose & the outcome for most US sheeple under Biden will be much worse… green policies will make life much worse for American sheeple.
You can mirror the US situation with the UK. We have the North-South divide. We have Scotland now firmly wanting a divorce from bankrupt England. When the sheeple farmers in Wales go bust, they will also want to leave. Northern Ireland is just a question of time, not IF. Even the regions have had the fill of Westminster swill. The Northern Powerhouse is just another way to buy the City crime cartels more time.
Brexit is many things, but one of those things is to stop or make it much harder to flee the UK. The channel ports & tunnel are not just overloaded with lorries, they are stacked with sheeple fleeing the sinking ship. After Brexit, this will continue. The regime will let in unlimited Commonwealth trash while English sheeple flee.
This exodus is happening in the US. Certain states, mostly with big urban areas are suffering as sheeple leave. These states/cities are mostly Democrat. These states have so many problems that they created that they are now considering that some will not be prosecuted if they are poor or in need and this could include violent crimes… no case to answer.
*** Nomadland *** Release date 19th February 2021 (if we get there) This film is based on US reality. Many of the minor roles are played by Nomads & some Nomads advised during the making of this film. Should win top awards. We have the same culture here in the UK and EU. Some have no option, others do it because it makes more sense than paying rent and bills. Here in the UK, the regime’s police state comes down hard on people living in their vehicles even if they are working. The US and EU are better. Trailer for the movies can be found on YouTube.
American Civil War II might make the MSM worth looking at again. It will be too monumental an event to lie about to any degree, especially as so much footage from across the country will tell the story even if the MSM tries to swing it. But which way? That’s why I think it will be quite an honest representation.
Meyssan is probably not aware of the special ops actions going on inside and outside of the US to remedy the situation, which is still having a buncha redcoat British bumfuck imperialist royalist freemasons inside the administration.
Considering the latitude, the USA was never quite right as a White country–it should start a bit further North and go into Canada, maybe all of Canada, which at present suffers under the British elite even more than the USA but could be like Scandinavia (used to be) and be an asset to White people. In the Old World, Whites start at about 35 degrees, and in the USA you do not get Nordic life below that, just the foreign desert religion that cannot be made amenable to us and mainly just hurts us, although the question can be argued both ways, I suppose. Traditionally, American Christianity always looked weird from Britain, being gripped by Mammonism, for a start, and never White-friendly. Jews can be among the biggest money-grabbers in American Christianity.
I still give D J Trump a chance, at least he is still resisting them. He made a lot of people aware of the evils that rules us. Its a battle between unseen forces of darkness and light… We all have to battle this same enemy, daily, in our lives.
This is the cover of the December issue of the Economist magazine. ”The World in 2021”
https://www.economist.com/the-world-in-2021
One theory about Trump’s presidency was to lead the nation into a civil war, as he is an actor installed by Jews to cause the breakup and financial destruction then civil war. Or maybe Trump is just crazy. I am waiting for him to throw in the towel, as I want to see the reaction of all these patriots who put their trust and faith in him. Sad really.
You know Trump is pro-vaccine, he calls it “warp speed”. He said the military will distribute it, which makes no sense at all. I see on Jim Stone’s website one nurse died and another passed out. The head nurse he says. Jim also says that taking out the first responders first is a good war strategy.
What should we conclude but other than the elite are waging war on us? And since JFK, all the presidents are installed puppets of the Jewish oligarchs and plutocrats. Just as hope and change Obama was a psyop, so is Trump.
Now I may be wrong and I hope I am wrong. Like any normal sane person I hope that Trump does something, like declare a national emergency and arrest all the deep state players. But will he? I want him to pardon Assange and Snowden, but will he?
The Trump psyop works like this, Trump and his huge narcissistic personality and brash ego is opposition to the globalist takeover, Trump is for the little people and puts up a historic fight, yet loses in the end dashing all hope of the patriot remnant in Amerika. That theory is what I subscribe to. Trump looks like a real patriot but he ain’t.
He did not remove the troops from a single Middle East country like he promised.
He did not build a wall to keep the illegals out like he promised.
He did not stop planned parenthood abortion mill, he doubled the funding.
He did not balance the budget, he presided over the biggest and most alarming increase ever!
He threatened Iran and killed their general, not for the security of the United States, but for a foreign state, Israel. That is 100% pure treason.
He says he is the King of Israel, gives that nation every god damned thing they want, says he’ll move there if things don’t work out here. His loyalty to Israel, and Jared Kushner the Bibi mole in the White House is most alarming. You can not serve two masters, is Trump working for us or for a hostile state, as we all know that Israel did 911 and Trump knows it.
Trump’s loyalty to his Jewish friends is also most troubling. How can Trump declare martial law and oust the deep state when the deep state is Jewish buddies? He won’t because he is loyal to them first.
So my conclusion is that we are screwed, and Trump is the one that put the screws to us, because TRUMP IS A KING SWAMP SNAKE, and Trump did read that snake poem several times during the campaign, you know I was a snake and took me in…
So my analysis (which could be wrong) is that we are being played by Trump, just like Obama, Clintons, Bushes, and LBJ. That makes sense to me, as the billionaires and trillionaires, and Rothschilds, Adelsons, and Israel are not going to allow an outsider to tip their apple cart.
Presidents do not have the power, those with money have the power, and Presidents are hired actors of the real power. The job of the actor is to convince the rabble to voluntarily accept the oligarch/plutocratic rule of the elites. So that means by definition the job of the president is to fool the people.
I do not like Mr. Trump and his Zionist friends, but I do think Trump won by a landslide, and I think Trump is fighting the election results for his own ego and legacy. Trump doesn’t like to lose. So there is a glimmer of hope that Trump does something historic and big, and I will eat my words if he does.
https://centralbankinginsanity.wordpress.com/2020/12/15/all-hope-is-about-to-be-lost/
I hope Trump proves me wrong. Now as far as civil war is concerned, some sort of armed patriot uprising may be exactly what the nation needs, a cleansing of the evil. I just hope that the Jews who are behind all this chaos get their just desserts.
It takes too long for most people to see specifically the issues in the United States.
We are in the era of a major change. The country started under evil and will end in war. Chattel slavery.
Mystic and Yogi
Just watch the movie ‘Conquest of the Planet of the Apes’ (1972) to see what’s coming soon…
So the Biden/Harris/Obama globalists trying to deconstruct the US, the nation they mutually hate, robbed and have subverted are awarded the election lest giving it to the rightful winner may divide the nation. That is their logic. The person who won the election and who is trying to keep the integrity of his nation intact from the the globalist deconstruction efforts, is denied any justice, on the basis that the globalist deconstructionists and who lost the election should rule, lest there be division and upset the destroyers, but that the people who want to keep the nation strong and together should not complain and work together with the unelected destroyers. That is precisely the kind of legal logic which Trump will get by relying on the courts.
President Trump is no Republican. He seized the “right-sided” of the American Uniparty out of utility, knowing third parties were not feasible.
The President will not be leaving office in January… The constitution/s have not been followed for many decades — except when the communists (globalists) found it convenient for public relations… And America is not a democracy.
Donald Trump has the backing of almost every rational, productive, and moral American. Plus, he is obviously fronting for some still relevant remnant of the old pro-America power structure, which maybe never had as much influence as it should have. (!)
As the Christian’s guy truthfully pointed out, “the poor will always be with us.”
As James Burnham showed us, there will always be an “elite.”
However, a little bit of more or less benevolant despotism can be lived with, but Drag Queen Story Hour, Globo-Homo, White Genocide, abortion as a religious sacrament, and Hate America™ are more than a little bit too much. Not to mention the Eternal Communist Future, so lauded by the Posers That Be.
The democracy never was.
The republic appears to be dead.
Donald Trump will not be leaving office.
It’s not easy to predict exactly what is coming, but it will probably be interesting.
P.S. one wearies of the nonentities and clowns, like the author of this article, climbing that Trump is a narcissist, or Trump is this and that. Please stare into your mirror and make sure you are not projecting.
Since when is Dallas, Fort Worth, Midland-Odessa, Lubbock, and San Antonio part of “Appalachia”? And since when is mostly white Jeff Davis County part of “El Norte”?
America was conceived in violence…and thus it will end.
Civil War ?? If the Super Bowl is on & the Kartrashians, & Degeneres degenerate are still on the Idiot Box ? Forget it ?
Fifteen years ago or so, Russian opposition party leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky said that the USA is an artificial creation without history, culture, social cohesion, set up on stolen land that cannot exist in a long run. Needless to say was ridiculed around the world by various politicians. Putin dismissed Zhirinovsky’s statement with a laughter saying it is not an opinion of the Russian state. Fast forward to today and it appears Vladimir Zhirinovsky was almost right. We’ll see…
The Chinese connection to voting machines and majority ownership of data companies related to “SKYNET”.et al. Chinese operatives inside the USA in American companies ( UBS for one ) with direct “board member” ties to the CCP.
Well worth the watch !!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzbduYDEvwU&feature=youtu.be
The globalist left will not fight. It will just keep systematically breaking everything down so the nation either falls apart or rolls over dead. We hear the zombie mantra, “Build Back Better!”, meaning tear down your existing house and rely on the globalist state to build pubic housing in exchange. All they will do is make plans for virtual housing leaving you in the cold.
All the major problems of division in the US are being orchestrated and exacerbated by the global elites, and with any fair analysis it all comes down to treason. They are doing everything possible to keep the people divided and fighting so they will not come together and oppose them or their globalist onslaught. The globalist movement is fronted by big monopolistic business interests, big oppressive government, and big brainwashing media – all controlled by the big international banking cartel. The cartel and its allies would like nothing better than the present process to continue – the continued destruction of its economy with the improvident lockdowns and restrictions with their engineered Plandemic – globalist instigated BLM rioters trying to instigate racial division and exacerbate tensions – the globalist Soros-paid Marxists radicals terrorizing small businesses and destroying anything representing the rich national heritage – and now a nation completely divided with a corrupt election system the results of which cannot be mended by a Court divided by globalist treason and love of country.
This crowd of global elites want their puppet national governments to meld into a global authority, über alles, and all national borders to disappear with larger nations breaking up into smaller states more easy to control. Meanwhile, the US courts are split along the same lines, presuming that both sides of the election controversy are made up of equal contestants under the Constitution, seemingly totally oblivious to the fact that one side is trying to destroy that very document as well as the nation, while the other side is trying to preserve both. As for the election, if the globalist socialists and transnational free traders get their way, it will be against the forces trying to prevent division and to unify the nation. For the courts to say that despite all the evidence of fraud, the results should not be disturbed lest justice lead to unrest, is either evidence of their abject ignorance or their treason.
If there is to be a civil war it will be the people against their corrupt globalist establishment and their corrupt government, and in this respect it will be a win for the people, because even if the they do not succeed on their first round, any form of continued tyranny in the West will be the end of the globalist fantasy as it will entail privation, and the second round will be against a failed globalist elite. Unless the globalist theft of our cultures, our constitutions, our nations and our very lives is once and for all in will lead to great suffering and will in any case fail. It is only with a nation sustained on truth, liberty, justice which provides the trust, opportunity and incentive necessary to produce the pursuit of happiness and any kind of real balance and prosperity. By their continued mass deceptions and subversion of all of these ideals they can now only rule by stealth and force.
The globalists have defrauded and milked the West for the past 40 years and the people have seen all of their cultural values eroded, their savings and pensions debased, their job opportunities and futures destroyed by globalist free trade, and their nations becoming debtor nations from creditor nations within the first 20 years of that trade. The globalist Davos crowd and the banksters are riding very high in the own estimations citing the industriousness of their communist prodigy, China, as their model nation despite its impoverishments in many respects, thinking that the global books regarding the debts they have racked up against our nations can simply be balanced with a new currency. All the while they overlook the obvious fact that without our capital, the debasement of our currencies, and the use of our markets which made us debtor nations, China would be no better off than it was before trade started in 1979. They continually congratulate themselves on the miracle of China, and all of their investments in that nation which they still maintain, as they do with their unending outsourcing. However, they cannot seem to get it through their heads that “they” have bankrupted our nations and killed the goose which laid all of their golden eggs, and that when they try to “equalize” things even more, the depression they have created for the West will only spread like a real plague this time strickening the entire world with privation. They they will have to flee the wrath of the entire world.
If things do erupt, one side of the real political divide will be united by virtue of having one common clearly identified enemy, the globalists, while the other side will continue to be divided and weak being sustained by fake news and vacillating, insecure and corrupt politicians and their lies. It will be a short war with the flag winning the day.
There are only two paths for America. One is for the Trumpster to follow the law on insurrection and declare martial law, and then really clean out the Satanic, Talmudic swamp creatures. I doubt this will happen as Trump is a slave of Jews. That leaves only civil war. By the way, the northern parts of Miss, Al, and Ga should have been included in the Deep South. I am SO happy to live in northern Al. We will do just fine.
Good article and some exceptional commentary, particularly by Yukon Jack, Fred, etc.
The majority of the population in the “United” States are gullible morons. But slap around and sodomize a moron enough and even they start to question what the f*ck is going on.
There is an awakening occurring as, little by little, the people who normally prefer to keep their heads deeply buried in the sand or deeply buried up their own arses are finally realizing there is something deeply and dangerously wrong. Even though Trump is nothing but a bloviating buffoon zio-whore and certainly no patriotic savior, this election fiasco is a blessing in that t is pimp-slapping millions of citizens out of their lethargy and blind ignorance. OUR mission, those of us who have been wide awake to the truth for some time, is to relentlessly spread the truth and inform the people just who their real enemies are, because there is now an audience, exponentially growing, who are finally opening their eyes and ears to some degree.
There are few Truthseekers here whom I respect more than Fred B, but I have to disagree with one thing in his comment above when he spoke of one side in the civil war wanting to destroy the Constitution and western values and the other side wanting to preserve those things. It seems he was suggesting the left-right paradigm or Demonrat versus Repug. People need to remember very clearly that the “right”, the “conservatives”, the Repugs under Bush / Cheney pissed all over, and made a complete mockery of, the Constitution and the rule of law, were part and parcel of the treachery and treason of 9/11, and perpetrated the highly illegal and shockingly immoral wars of aggression that followed. BOTH major political parties need to be absolutely gutted and destroyed and a new party for true conservatives and constitutionalists established.