Nuclear War with Russia Winnable Said Trump’s Incoming National Security Advisor

By Mish – Money Sept 13, 2019

Questioning “mutual assured destruction,” Charles Kupperman called nuclear conflict “in large part a physics problem.”

Incoming National Security Advisor, Charles Kupperman, made the claim Nuclear War With USSR Was Winnable.

He made those statements in the 1980s. I do not know his views today, but let’s review what he said then.

President Donald Trump’s acting national security adviser, former Reagan administration official Charles Kupperman, made an extraordinary and controversial claim in the early 1980s: nuclear conflict with the USSR was winnable and that “nuclear war is a destructive thing but still in large part a physics problem.”

Kupperman, appointed to his new post on Tuesday after Trump fired his John Bolton from the job, argued it was possible to win a nuclear war “in the classical sense,” and that the notion of total destruction stemming from such a superpower conflict was inaccurate. He said that in a scenario in which 20 million people died in the U.S. as opposed to 150 million, the nation could then emerge as the stronger side and prevail in its objectives.

His argument was that with enough planning and civil defense measures, such as “a certain layer of dirt and some reinforced construction materials,” the effects of a nuclear war could be limited and that U.S. would be able to fairly quickly rebuild itself after an all-out conflict with the then-Soviet Union.

At the time, Kupperman was executive director of President Ronald Reagan’s General Advisory Committee on Arms Control and Disarmament. He made the comments during an interview with Robert Scheer for the journalist’s 1982 book, “With Enough Shovels: Reagan, Bush, and Nuclear War.”

The National Security Council did not immediately respond to questions on whether Kupperman, 68, still holds the same views of nuclear conflict as he did in the early 1980s. Kupperman’s seemingly cavalier attitude toward the potential death of millions of people was criticized at the time both by Democratic politicians and arms control experts.

The article posts excerpts so let’s look at a couple of precise statements.

Kupperman Statements

  • If the objective in a war is to try to destroy as many Soviet civilians and as many American civilians as is feasible, and the casualty levels approached 150 million on each side, then it’s going to be tough to say you have a surviving nation after that. But depending on how the nuclear war is fought, it could mean the difference between 150 casualties and 20 million casualties. I think that is a significant difference, and if the country loses 20 million people, you may have a chance of surviving after that.
  • I think it is possible to win, in the classical sense. It means that it is clear after the war that one side is stronger than the other side, the weaker side is going to accede to the demands of the stronger side.

Winning in the Classical Sense

We lost 20 million, they lost 150 million.

Let’s call that “winning in the “classical sense”.

It’s precisely how one “wins” trade wars, but on a much larger scale.

Mike “Mish” Shedlock


8 responses to “Nuclear War with Russia Winnable Said Trump’s Incoming National Security Advisor”

  1. There are no public nuclear fallout shelters/bunkers in the UK. The Israeli elite have plenty, the ordinary Israelis have none. It is the same in Amerika, UK and most of Europe but Russia has nuclear bunkers for most of its urban populations. A nuclear war could be arranged so the population gets slashed. Keep in mind that our corrupt elites want AI robots with better rights than humans… you will never see a homeless AI robot, so in effect, robots will become our immediate masters controlling your money, access and rights. They simply don’t need all of us useless eaters.

  2. Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

  3. Dr. Stangelove:

    “GENERAL RIPPER (Charles Kupperman)
    You’re absolutely right. You forgot to mention
    their nuclear subs. But it wouldn’t matter.
    Sure we wouldn’t get off without getting our
    hair mussed, but we’d prevail. I don’t think
    we’d lose more than fifty million people, tops.”

    Trump has surrounded himself with mad Jews, what could go wrong, I ask what possibly go wrong when your entire staff is war mongering cra cra batshit insane?

  4. “O” dear;;;; Out of the frying pan — into the fire…
    It truly sounds, as if the inmates are running the lunatic asylum.
    a criminally insane asylum.

  5. Yet another Jew is being appointed to high office by Donald Swamp. Bankster jews have complete control over Trump. But 99% of the sheeple have zero awareness of the Jew World Order, which is just how the bankster jews want it.

    The replacement of Christian leaders in government with Jewish leaders in government and Jewish controlled front men like Trump is the root cause of the demoralization, decay, and destruction. The children of the devil have seized power.

  6. These stunted thoughts, of limited thinking, of of another war-monger is manifest here. The next war, if fought between any two of the major powers, will become a Global War. The opposition will certainly field every destructive weapon in its arsenal. We can be assured of the outcome; that will be the end of the U.K. and the U.S.A. while China, certainly a belligerent in such a conflict, and Russia could survive total destruction because of their vast underpopulated continental regions. The madness of men like Trump and Kupperman turn real because they have never heard a shot fired in anger (in an earlier decade like Blair and Bush) are put into high office by puppeteers pulling strings to achieve their own political agenda…

  7. Kupperman a JEW.. no way.. yet another one?.. Why not start his nuclear war in Israhell??

  8. Eigil, if you seriously doubt that the Trump Administration is infested with Jews, just click the link below and see the evidence for yourself –